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@@Hecateofcrossroads You're probably thinking of Zatanna, but that also works--Giovanni Zatara and his daughter Zatanna Zatara. Really, that's their names.
@@coldsnap5742 Ah, yes, superhero comics, never change. Although, it can't be worse than Blackagar Boltagon, AKA Black Bolt. It's like Peter Parker going by Pet Park in costume.
I remember watching now you see me 2 and being so confused how he was able to stop the rain because the explanation was using frequencies to create the illusion the water was stopping but the people put down the umbrellas and they were like “wow it’s not raining anymore” he’s more than a clothing wizard, he’s a weather wizard
Actually, now that I think about it, doesn't this trick only work when you have water dripping from a consistent spot, like a faucet? Rain drops are distributed randomly, so even if you used a strobe light, unless every next raindrop happened to fall in the exact same place with the exact same timing as the previous ones, the effect wouldn't work...
@@Halucygeno nah using rain machine doesn't make sense neither cause rain machine also don't drop waters consistently. the effect work for single droplet is because the droplet is being space consistently. There is no possible way in physics with the random motion of air and water turbulence to have thousands of water droplets at different position in space to all synchronize in drop rate . Also the biggest thing is if they use a rain machine, the only thing they need to do to stop the rain is to stop the machine lol no need for some kind of trick with strobe light lol
It'd be clever, but it wouldn't act as a good movie title for anyone who wasn't aware of the first movie. They want to make sure the connection is crystal clear for everyone so no confusion arises. They could've called it "Now You See Me 2: Now You Don't", but that seems a little long
I love how in movies, all anyone has to do is put on a security-guard or police uniform and none of their colleagues ever seem to wonder who this total stranger is.
The Craigslist construction worker heist is an example of it working in real life. They nearly got away with it but they didn’t pull it off completely.
@@outlawMovies That's kind of a special case to say the least. I'm talking about putting on a cop or security-guard uniform to get access to a building and somehow none of the other cops or security wonder who the hell you are.
@@valmarsiglia because if you're wearing the uniform and walk around like you're familiar with the area, you naturally give off the false impression that you belong there when you don't. security guards reeeeally aren't as adept as you think they are. most of them are not actually there to actively prevent crime as it occurs, they're there to deter it from happening
THANK YOU I was looking for anyone to have said it already bc it's true and should be said. That being said, his shout of "She's A Witch!" Needs to be immortalized as a gif.
It's been a while since I've seen the films, so maybe it's already been done, but a scene like that could be interesting, where it looks like one has been caught mid-trick, but in reality that was also another trick. Like if he opened it and Thaddeus was crouched there, he grabbed him by the collar to yank him up and just yanked up a suit with nothing inside and he was gone. It feels like something they either have done and I forgot, or they should have done just to wind up people who want to complain about minor things. *cough* sins of the cinema variety *cough*
Lula May is 100% the kind of wizard who uses her wizard magic to set the stage for her actual sleight of hand in an unreasonable amount of time (i.e. she modified the couch with magic so she could do the decapitation thing as just a prop trick)
I love that this dude knows that breaking down a movie like this is silly and is just doing it for fun. “Zooming through the table is impossible” and immediately moving on had me laughing. They’re definitely all wizards of different levels though.
You can even plot them to the different schools of magic! Jack Wilder: Conjuration McKinney: Echantment J. Daniel Atlas: Transmutation Lula: Illusion Now, if we could just get a Necromancer in there somehow...
Henley Reeves: Necromancy. She clearly died to those pirrhanas (no idea how to spell that), but she had cast Contingency with Revivify before the show, and then used Misty Step to appear in the crowd
Oceans Eleven is one where you want to follow the heist and pay close attention. Now You See Me is one where you switch off your brain and enjoy the spectacle
Listen, if I was at a magic show, and the magician "hypnotized" me to jump to action and tackle a guy that said "freeze" and then those magicians gave me $10,000, I'd definitely jump to tackle the guy that said freeze
Same. Really that scene works as a hypnotism act since from the point of view of the audience it is all still part of the show. Hypnotism basically is the performer inviting you to be in on it and perform as well. Take that and the fact that the show went off the rails pretty hard and everyone got money I'd bet that at least some of the people would tackle the coo
Honestly, becoming a stage wizard might be the best way for someone with actual magic powers to make money out of them while also having the perfect alibi.
It's perfect because you can come up with a plausible notreallymagic explanation. Then if someone tries to Penn and Teller your trick you can magic into existence new plausible explanations on the fly.
I like to think they're stage magicians with just a spark of magic and impressed the Eye so much that the Eye gave them a taste of real magic to work with.
You're not gonna talk about the part where Jesse Eisenbergs character flicks his hand and his handcuffs move from his hand to the other guys in an instant? Thats straight up magic
In the banana trick, the banana literally just vanishes between frames, effectively the same as the firepoker and curtain tricks during the first film. Therefore, Jack Wilder is capable of opening rifts between dimensions and easily travelling through the fabric of timespace, but that is still not as impressive as Merrick twitching his eyebrow and knocking a man unconscious
Morgan Freeman enters the sarcophagus, Mark Ruffalo opens it, and it's empty, confused Mark Ruffalo enters the sarcophagus, then the sarcophagus opens and Morgan Freeman walks out of it.
Dylan not knowing how to follow Thaddius into the trick sarcophagus is a key moment. Dylan doesn't have to know how trick items work because he's a wizard.
Personally, I like the idea of "insteading using fake magic to be con men, they're using real magic and making it look fake enough to ..be con men." Much more than "they're just really good really smart magicians and better than everyone else."
I was born on '03 and didn't understand English till about 2017 When 11 year old me watched this without subtitles I thought this movie was about actual wizards
The card scene is so ridiculous that I crack up whenever I watch it. This is SO extra and unnecessary and you cannot convince me that NONE of the guards noticed this random card doing fuckin' air gymnastics seemingly on its own
yeah, I was young when I watched the first movie and I enjoyed it but it was imposible for me to watch the second one without cringing so many plot holes and bad writing, I genuinely think I could do it better with no experience at all
@@m4jki316Every day humans overestimate their ability to do something simply because they dislike whatever it is they are spectating. It’s spectacular.
@@user-ty6yn9yu9k obviously it was my first thought and I have no experience with movie industry but this is what comes to Your mind when You watch this kind of nonsense bullshit, especially afer watching many movies that are just well made and the plot makes perfect sense. You cannot convince me that a huge team of filmmakers took at least a mildly serious approach to the writing, all they cared about was special effects and firewroks in every single scene
Ok but imagine you're a stage magician who gets invited to do this con with these other magicians who you think are also stage magicians but then it turns out they're actually using magic
now THAT'S a movie plot oh my LORD. confused magician in a group of actual wizards. Bonus if the magician saves the wizards with stage magic at the end of the movie.
This movie could've been so cool if the characters were legit wizards, not just ridiculously good magicians. Then the movie could lean into the unbelievability of events instead of tiptoeing around it and ending up like it did. I feel like it would've actually grounded the story more, despite being far less realistic, because it wouldn't challenge your suspension of disbelief as much. Also the idea of an urban fantasy heist movie with this cast sounds really damn cool to me
But isn't the whole idea that it's a battle of wits, not real magic. That's actually what I like about the movie. The unbelievable wizard magic were the weaker parts of the movies for me.
@@dannypavlov913 Yeah, agreed. They just need to pick one side, this uncomfortable middle ground works for nobody. Either have it be a realistic battle of wits or an epic fantasy heist movie. Both sound excellent to me.
Thank you for using Ace Attorney music because this really does feel like a case from one of those games where the twist is that magic *is* real honestly, like JFA's third case but good
The basic throws and catches are doable (they comlicated some but overall a version of this is doable). And having Luck even if the chances are slim is possible. The real thing, that makes this impossible is that the card flying around will produce sound. The guards would hear them.
@@IntrusiveThot well yeah it's called cinema sins. THEY literally tell there watchers that there going to make fun or nitpick any little thing. That's kinda the point
@@lxrdkenji they purposefully cut clips to make out of context sins. They blatantly misrepresent the movie and act like they don't understand what's happening. Watch the pulp fiction one. It's infuriating when you know the movie. Blatant lying.
I like how they said these magic tricks in the movie are supposed to be plausible but stylish. But in the second movie, they straight up enter a magical equiavlent if the Fountain of Youth and basically become chosen demigods in a magical wizard illuminati.
I've mostly avoided this franchise because I thought it was about a bunch of Vegas illusionists running a card counting scheme. Now that I know it's about a coven of wizards pulling off heists with the power of the arcane, I _need_ to see this shit.
CinemaSins themselves acknowledge that they're just bullshitters and hardly have actual points, especially abt half their hypothetical scenarios they proprose
@@elpenguinoofmexico1388 please don’t do that bullshit. they can say that all they want, but during their videos they make legitimate criticism about shit, thus, negating the actual reason why they say they exist on RU-vid in the first place. They are a shit channel and very hypocritical and there is a lot of evidence to back that online...
@@JayCurb Cinima Sins is a comedy channel. I don’t see how you can think what they do is bad. It’s not a good review for a movie but that was never the point of their channel anyway.
The Eye was supposed to be the “keepers of *real* magic”, and they outright say that Mark Ruffalo has real magic, so it’s weird that the sequel acts like there isn’t real magic.
the fact that they never outright confirmed if those were "real magic" or just super cool tricks themselves was one of my favorite things about the first movie. all the explanation in that one were just done by thaddeus, meaning that they're pretty much just speculations since we never actually saw the process happen outside of his point of view. I liked how ambiguous everything was, showing that even in the end, the magicians never revealed their tricks. them just retconning all that bummed me out when I saw the sequel
When an entire crew created the cooking manga Food Wars, they hired a pro chef who personally tested the feasibility of all dishes and provided ideas of her own. She was so good she stuck with the creators throughout the whole serie except for a short time when she went on maternity leave.
@@aldemo762 probably. I have yet to watch the last season tho. I mostly watch ChepPK's reactions to it anyway, since it's riveting to hear a real cook give his two cents on the dishes and compare parts of the show to his own experience.
You didn't even mention the woman at the very beginning who was hypnotized to not be able to move or talk as she had to watch the fact that her husband cheated on her with her sister, only for her mind to be erased afterwards. That's not just immoral, that sounds like a horror scenario to me.
@@BioshockDrill If you have seen the movie you probably can tell what scene I'm talking about. But basically this Hypnotist guy, hypnotises a woman to not be able to move or talk, then negotiates a payment with her husband for making his wife forget what happened, before telling him that he knows he cheated on his wife. So basically his wife is completely frozen and can't move and has to live through her memories being sold. This scene is very early in the movie, having a very "look how quirky this guy is" vibe to it, as it's there to introduce the audiences to the hypnotists powers.
Imagine you're a truck driver for a bank, working long hours, following every rule and regulation mandatory to your role and you watch this movie with your family (who you only get to see on the weekends), only to have your intelligence insulted by a movie about hipster magicians.
@@irishPEDOelf I mean it depends on what your definition of real magic is. Hugh Jackmans characters magic trick isn't really technically real because he isn't actually teleporting but at the same time he did have a machine created to duplicate himself, and duplication is kind of what our world would consider "real magic" as it can't really be done.
Merit and a bank driver thing is kinda real. He could hypnotize truck guard in advance, for him to pass out the same moment he gonna see him again. Like "next time you see me you'll gonna pass out".
I'm opposite. As heist movies go, these two films pissed me off the most, at least in Ocean series they kinda explained the methods and showed the walkthrough, in a more logic and realistic way. In this? MAGIC. And not just magician's ways but more like JK Rowling ones lmfao. What a lazy way to tell a story.
Magicians and wizards are kind of like warlocks and witches in medieval dark age folklore the Catholic Church absolutely hated those people because they were considered blasphemy to the church back in those days in reality magicians are Magi messengers of the coming second coming of Jesus Christ if you believe that thing in the Bible it's something you would not want to ever read drunk cuz it can give you a nightmares when you think about it in that context.
Movie idea: a movie about a master street magician who got pressed into a wizard school after being mistaken as one. He has to keep up this facade of being a wizard or he'll be killed. But with his luck and skills as a performer, he hilariously managed to convince everyone he's a talented wizard so much that he's seen as the chosen one who'll fight some ancient evil or something.
_Oz the Great and Powerful_ features a battle between the witches, using "actual" magic, and Oscar Diggs/Oz, using stage magic tricks and special effects while convincing them he is a real magician to intimidate them.
The twist? They knew all along that he wasn't a real wizard, and that's precisely why he has to fight the "ancient evil." Because the ancient evil can sense or negate wizardry or something. But they had to play along so that he felt obligated to keep up the act and go through with it
and then tells them that they are all biologically a single gender, because she heard it from a friend she agreed with while drunk 10 years ago, and also they use their floors as toilets
@@jerubaal101 I loved her work growing up, but god is she soooooo... wrong these days. (would like to say that people having legitimate issues with her is not "ree" culture)
Honestly, if they just revealed they were all unknowing wizards who happen to just use their powers thinking they're just practical magicians is an interesting idea
I’d like to point out the rain trick is also impossible. It relies on water dropping in the same place at the same rate as the strobe. Even if that was somehow possible in rain, in the movie people remove their umbrellas and don’t get wet so ... yeah, he’s a rain god as well.
This one others me too. While the water/strobe thing is actually real (you used to be able to get little shelf versions at Spencer's Gifts), all the people who took down their umbrellas and rain coats would still show splashes and evidence of getting wet
In the logic of the movie it was not real rain, but some cleverly positioned sprinklers. On the other point you are right, it is not actually making water go up, so people would feel the rain and get wet like normal
The “Qi Blast” scene as you like to call it actually had a shot cut out where Woody Harrelson actually showed the driver a clip from a CW show - resulting in instant boredom and thus sleep
“I got a great idea for the title for the sequel to ‘Now You See Me’” “Oh, lemme guess, ‘Now You D-‘“ “-‘See Me 2’, that’s right” “Oh so its like ‘Now You See Me, Too’, like t-o-o, right?” “Nope, Now You See Me 2”
"ThEy'Re JuSt dO mAgIcS gOoD" When I heard about this movie, I thought it would be cool, but seeing the trailers I just couldn't buy into any of this being possible. Which is alright, but then people got insistent that it's all elaborate sleights and illusions. Mmmmm, no. There isn't a person in the world who can do what's advertised. Like teleporting, in the case of the sequel.
This movie makes me think of when I hear people say something like "KING KONG RIPPED A T-REX'S JAW OPEN! HE MUST BE SO STRONG TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT DUDE ISN'T THAT CRAZY?!?!" ..... not really?.... it's a fictional character..... he could be as strong as the writers imagination wants him to be. If king Kong is a bad example just replace it with the hulk. I don't understand when people are amazed by a fictional entities strength. Like it get it might surprise you or something but..... otherwise just wait till the end of the movie or whatever, and just take the whole story as it is, there's not really anything "amazing" when the topic being discussed is just being made up with no limitations applied from the start.
@@nignamedmutt7270 You mean to say it's not amazing or crazy how strong Goku is because he's a fictional character? Can't say I agree, if the character is crazy strong it's exciting coz you can theoretically throw even stronger things at them and get some intense spectacle as a result or even exceed the limits you'd set Not sure what this has to do with the NYSM movie anyway, but magicians aren't a fictional concept if that's what you mean, wizards are I guess, that's the point of the title, asking the question "are we supposed to believe this could happen or not?"
@@nignamedmutt7270This is just stupid logic. People are amazed because we can’t see that in normal life. Yes it’s obvious that King Kong and Hulk are strong. What’s NOT obvious is the choreography that goes into the making of any action sequence. It is a literal goal of the directors to make certain scenes like that memorable and eye candy. Shit is NOT hard to grasp my guy, people are amazed at the SPECTACLE. Get your head out of your ass and things like that will be a little more clear to you
@@tubester358saitama destroys Goku in every scenario so who cares. Also thanks for proving DB fans really are some of the most obnoxious people to ever suck air.
@@tubester358 i think if the movie shows a guy that can make you fall asleep by just looking at you, and a magic carpet that reveals a portal then, yes, you're supposed to believe none of it is really possible. idk why the director even pretends they're trying to be realistic
I find that these movies are much more fun if you watch them just accepting that they're wizards and can do real magic. Goes from "how are they doing this shit with slight of hand" to "oh he teleported in the curtain, that's fucking awesome"
@@92brunod cause not every wizard has unlimited powers you fool. You think just possessing magic and bouncing some cards means you can teleport out of a building? No, it's magic based on illusion, not just stupid fucking normal magic
@@92brunod it's magic based on illusion, like what cards tricks are. They're not teleporting out of a building, that's not an illusions, they're gonna make it seem like they walked through a wall or some shit. Seems like you just want to dislike these movies if you missed the point of my comment that hard
The Pirannah trick is actually pretty explainable when you realize that actual piranhas don't eat people, so you swap her with a body double with a trick tank of some kind, start flailing for drama, light up a few blood packets, and the actual magician hides in the audience. The hardest part would be when and how they did the swap, but considering actual magicians have found ways to do similar things, so it's workable.
@@YEs69th420 Every single piranha was paid off beforehand and they're acting as hard as possible. You look in the tank afterwards and you can see them flashing bills at each other to compare who made the most bank off of this gig.
The piranha trick could work like this in real life: LED screen on hydraulics. blood capsules. and trap door. The top tank has water in it with an led screen that makes it "look" like it's a see through container, but its not. When it opens up the water covers the front of the glass container for a bit that faces the audience, masking her for a bit. When this happens it turns on the led screen on hydraulics. It comes out of the floor behind the glass, but the tank actually has its own section built into it that is see through but has a top and second layer of glass behind it so that water can't get in. (Think of like those mugs that you put in the freezer that have liquid in them already) The water covering the front part would mask any inconsistencies in positioning between her in real life and her pre recorded video. She then squeezes the blood capsules to match the video. Then, while its playing, she is actually sent through the trap door at the bottom to then reappear in the audience. There never were piranhas. 😎 And you wouldn't even need a body double. 👍
@@i9incher Super easy alternate situation: The tank has a smaller 'tank' inside of it, basically, a glass square that the piranhas can swim around. So she goes down into the inner tank, the fish start moving, she flails around to work up some bubbles and sets off the blood pellets for drama, and then she slips out the trap door and into the crowd in the chaos. Even if the water drained out from the inner tank, you wouldn't really be able to see a difference because there'd be water in the outer tank, as well, I think.
That's only technically correct Penn and Teller tried doing a piranha trick and Teller got bit really bad to the point he had to get medical attention, so while piranhas don't eat people jumping in a piranha tank and flailing around would still be incredibly dangerous
Something a lot of grand illusion magicians attest to is being able to simply walk through the crowd and nobody notice them at all. In the tricks where they disappear from stage and reappear in the crowd, they quite literally do just walk into it and nobody notices because everybody is distracted. Also, piranhas have no desire to eat living things unless they are starved immensely, and really won't eat at all if they're already full. Also I'm pretty sure they were implying the driver of the truck was already hypnotized to fall asleep when he saw Merit. The rest of the movie and the sequel is pretty much impossible.
@@i3rucei3ruce On screen you see piranhas dumped into a tank and a red liquid appear inside the tank while the women is no longer visible. Trap door underneath the tank, red dye injected into the water, body obscured by panicking piranhas. It's pretty simple, really. Now, of course the movie opted to use camera cuts to create the illusion instead of thousands of dollars and several months of engineers and metal workers making the mechanisms and set for the trick, but the end result is the same.
I honestly thought the end of the first movie, when I watched it, was confirmation that magic was real and that they were going to be fully inducted into it, and then the trailer for the second movie made me think they were going to be going around doing real magic, ngl.
Yeah, wasn’t that the point of The Eye and the plan and stuff? That they were proving themselves so that they could be inducted into the Eye and learn real magic? What happened to that plot thread?
