Werewolves, Werebears, Wereboars & More Werecreatures | The Elder Scrolls Podcast #54 

I wish there was the option to kidnap the leader of the silver hand and turn them into a werewolf. Then just release them in their werewolf form in a silver hand location. It would extremely cool

I love how the Hircine/Werewolf heart eating, Molag Bal/Vampire drinking blood, and Ideal Masters/soul gem filling all have an interesting relationship.

The best hunter after all is one that is in control of themselves. Clever, patient, cunning. Not a feral beast lashing out at everything within reach.

I hold a similar headcannon too, but I also think that it also involves the nature of the Underforge as part of the ritual, as Skor says "The Underforge taps into Olds Magics" or something similar.

My only guess is maybe how you contract it makes a difference. Say getting scratched or bit by a werewolf you get lycanthropy but with more downsides and less upsides. Where drinking the blood is the ideal method.

@@eddw7650 that too indeed

Just jump into being a wolf

A true shame, at least Hircine cares about them 😓

We’re werewolves, NOT “swear”wolves!

Werewolves. Were wolves what?

@@scarletbard6511 Were Wolves harmed in the making of this video? 😳

I'll do you one better, whywolves?

That’s all we need is a Wereroiddeer.

It makes you wonder, if moose existed in TES they'd be in either Highrock or Skyrim most likely.

The were's tend to be predators due to him being the God of the Hunt.

Consider this for Black Marsh... wereotters.

@@Deepkeel Wereturtle?

Yes exactly, Hircine is a fair Daedra he is a big proponent of "Survival of the Fittest!" If you defeat one of his Beasts he respects that and grants you a reward if you fail too bad. Also during his hunt if he wasn't fair he could smite you with barely a thought but, he respects and likes people to have a fair chance. He basically Nerfs himself during his hunts.

Plus he is not above calling a hunt on a werewolf he finds unfit. In that case the prey having lycanthropy just makes the hunt fun for Hircine.

Beer-Whores? Schorry too much to drink. - There is a pub near me called the Boar's Head... which is known, obviously as the Whore's Bed

Definitely let us play as multiple lycanthropes. Maybe a questline where Werewolves are in a territorial war with the Wereboar's and you get to pick a side. Depending on the faction you join determines what would be the dominant strain of lycanthropy in the province. The quests could involve taking territory from the other strain, and finding artifacts of Hircine to ensure your dominance over the area. You'd also gain new powers over the questlines as a gift from the Huntsmen himself, of course he sees this as a bit of sport. The other strain would still exist after the quest, but they'd be in far fewer number and a more rare encounter. The questline wouldn't be forced after obtaining lycanthropy. If you get infected with lycanthropy of either type, it would be entirely possible to go at being a lone wolf without a clan backing you. Thus never starting the questline.

@@ryklatortuga4146 Wait, how is a Pub called the Boars Head the same as a place called the Whores Bed?? You got me confused now 😅

well if it's really in hammerfell and highrock. I kinda hope we get two forms of lycanthropy It shouldn't be too hard to just use different skins or even to put in effort to animate two. Considering how ham they're going on ES6 to begin with. Wereboars from high rock. Maybe werelions or hyenas from hammerfell?

@@thalmoragent9344 look up "Spoonerism" - it is an English ... thing ... of swapping the first consonant on two words. Bunny Rabbit = Runny Babbit

I like this! I also feel that Hircine would punish/be pissed at one of his Hounds for “failing” to kill their intended prey. If a hunter got in the way and their prey escaped they’re is an idiot for not properly scoping out the area, or for not judging what prey they could handle. If their prey is a random adventurer and still survived, then man Hircine would consider them a weakling. Either way, if a Hound fails to kill everyone they attempt to kill, they probably get punished.

Yep, also if you look at historical legends/myths like the Greeks/Romans. According to the legend a mortal king named Lycaon (something like that) was favored by the gods but he decided to test Zeus by offering him human flesh disguised as a meal Zeus recognized it and killed the king's children and turned Lycaon into the first Werewolf and thus Lycanthropy.

Baconthropy.

Well if you look at the evolutionary line of bears, you’d realize that they are related to canines. Through the sub-order genus Carnivora. So it would fit into Skyrim lore quite fine. Not 100% accurate which bothers me, and I really do like the idea of giving it a proper name like ursinthropy or porcinthropy, just tryna say that it technically fits all right!

@@halfbakedhooligan then there's weresharks and werecrocs and lycanthropy falls apart lol

Yeah but Lycanthropy sounds real cool

Uthorn is an entitled incel who felt entitled to the green lady regardless of her rejection, and i very much enjoyed making a rug out of him lol

@@introspectiveseraphim6251 The Green Lady loved the Hound until she was literally drawn to the Silvenar by magic after being chosen as the Green Lady. He was screwed by magic and destiny.

Growl is another really good one that also has lunar transformations. It's not as feature heavy as Moonlight tales but it feels much cleaner, how Lycantrhopy should have been in the vanilla. It is so much more immersive when you have to think about the moon phases and avoid being in town when the moons are full or near full.

"accidentally" transform in windhelm or your least favorite hold. or challenge yourself with a big city like riften. i don't remember witch mod, but theirs a perk tree mod where it converts your magica into bonus health, would be cool to play as a glass cannon mage until the full moon hits your skin, morphing you into a juggernaught beast.

no theirs one that turns your magica into HEALTH. sure it's not as usefull as more sprint juicel but it's perfect for a jeckle and mr. hyde like roleplay.

I use moonlight tales as well, I personally use the warg preset because the full moons were a little too easy to prepare for, but the full moon one is more thematic

Bro I also just watched Shads vid on that ! Lol

@@pelinalwhitestrake1176 Yea I'd imagine there is a lot of crossover with Shad and Fudge viewers :)

Yeah. Also note Lycan technically lykos means wolf and Anthropos means man or manlike. Lykos Anthropos to Lycanthrope.

Make the wooden swords useful, increased damage against vampires.

If its Hammerfell/Highrock we could see Werewolves, Wereboars, Werelions (since its close to the Elsweyr boarder), and the elusive Wereshark potentially. That's all dependant on if Bethesda makes it happens.

@@lazilycatharticone4191 don't forget wereswords. If TES6 will be taking place in Hamerfell, I hope to see werecurvedswords🙃

I desperately want more mounts. ESO shows us just have insane tamriel is in regards to its ecosystem. Some of the lore mounts in that game are so cool. I don't want boring horses. I have them in real life, I don't need them in my fantasy all the time too.

@@valentineX1X i hope we see Griffins.

Werecrocs

I guess those two things were unBEARable

There is a temple of were bears at the top of the mountain with the ruins solstheim?

@@alw2839 well, yeah but solsteim isn’t part of the mainland of Skyrim. That’s why it was considered part of the province of Morrowind for a long time

@@alw2839 Yeah, Solstheim was a neglected part of Morrowind for a long time, like IRL Alaska before the US discovered oil there. I feel like Morrowind bought Solstheim for cheap, too….

@@Wired_User They did buy it for cheap, considering all the goodies on it.

I thought they can control the transformation because they are great hunters/warriors and have Hircine's blessing.

@@MoraqVos They have his blessing now but what about back then. The beast blood has been in them for only a couple hundred years. Which over time they could have earned his blessing

@@garybirch2520 At the start of the Beastblood in Companions wasn't a curse was also a blessing of sorts. Yes Kodlak, Farkas, and Vilkas consider it a curse. The first Harbinger who turned them to Beastblood regretted it momentarily before accepting being taken to Hircine's Realm the rest of the Companions went willingly until Kodlak who was given the choice. Anyway all the Companions with the Beastblood could control it. For example Kodlak, Farkas, and Vilkas choose to not change until could be cured (unless surrounded like in the Companion Questline.) They succeeded with that and then be cured by you.

Pretzels just remind me of Kingdom Come Deliverance 😂

Adorable😂😂😂 also I felt that in my soul.

Yes very annoying and I hate the idea of larger number of weaknesses. One of the biggest issues with Oblivion was the number of weaknesses.

Electricity is the best thing because it harms spirits

Yes! I wanna hear more about the mean dream grannie!

@@Etticos. Yeah, and also, one of my characters I play is a Dunmer Werewolf, one who actually has devoted himself to Vaermina so he would always have good dreams at night, and give frightening dreams to my enemies, probably those who would dream of my character hunting them or something.

I should clarify, I meant mods for Skyrim. I haven't played Oblivion in far too long, & I don't have ESO yet.

You just see a Nord riding into battle on a Weremoose

let's gooo

Almost there

Agreed, they sound so OP, but they're not too threatening. They look cool and should be effective, but they seem sort of.. neglected in the Lore and in power/fear

@@thalmoragent9344 they make light of the deadric gifts. To get a deadric artifact should be a seriously arduous and painful process and game changing. Same goes with gifts like lycanthropy.

@@valentineX1X True. I mean, Lycanthropy doesn't have to be TOO hard to get, but it should still be more impact full, you're right. Many of the Daedric Artifacts truly are too easy to get and not as powerful as they should be, I agree. Hell, even if not Daedric, getting Auriel's Bow and Shield were actually a long endeavor, which I appreciated. Going through what the Snow Elves had to go through to reach the Inner Sanctum and all that was truly awe inspiring.

@@thalmoragent9344 agreed man. Id also like to see the introduction of Aedric shrines and artifacts too. It would give people that play good characters some stuff and could create some cool conflicts where maybe by obtaining certian Aedric artifacts you won't be able to get deadric ones as the gods conflicts won't let you become their champions.

@@valentineX1X Definitely agreed, having those consequences or having to make those choices that would prohibit you from other Gods. I mean, maybe allow for you to like, break ties if you want too. Like become a Daedric champion but Betray the prince and then you loose their favor and no longer can take up quests for him, BUT, that opens up for another one, this way you don't feel too restricted, even though I wouldn't mind if it was a more permanent choice. Makes it more fun for more replayability

Wait, they don't want Spears and stuff? Damn... why not? Would be better to have all those weapon choices instead of just the few we have now

Why the hell would people want less options? The more weapon types the better. I want spears and halberds and sword spears and pole axes and stuff.

@@thalmoragent9344 the main arguement I saw was it would make the game feel like its morrowind again.. which is absolutely absurd. I also saw people saying dumb shit like why would you want a spear or something when you can have enchanted dragon bone dual swords.. personally a dude clad in full deadric plate with a halberd would utterly stomp some dude in light armour with two swords. Basically I couldn't see one convincing argument apart from my own point which is you could argue some polearms could be too long to swing sideways in tight caves and tunnels, but thats what the stabby part is for. Honestly a spear in a tight corridor used as crowd control would be more valuable than any other weapon.

Pole-arms, Staves, and Throwing Knives/Darts/Spears need to come back, as well as Crossbows in the base game, not Dlc like Skyrim. They don't even need to have a special tree for them, just dump Pole-arms into the Two-handed tree and throwing weapons into Marksmen along with Archery.

I'd love to have them back

In Tamriel if I *HAD* to? I'd probably go Wolf or another Werebeast. Really, in the traditional sense it just takes preparation. If you only transform under the full moon, plan out the time and head into the woods on a camping trip or something. Unless its like Morrowind where you change every night, but by Skyrim's time, 4E201, that doesn't seem to be the case as even the Werewolf packs on Solstheim seem to have some level of control. Being a Vampire really only has immortality as its perk, and the game makes it clear through conversations with Vampires that the thirst is uncontrollable for lesser Vampires. As well as depending on what strain of Vampirism you get, you may never see the sun again unless you want a one way trip to Coldharbor for a date with Molag. If immortality is your play, learning how to extend your life through magic would probably be the best way. Take up with a Telvanni wizard, Neloth's been around for a long time, Divath fir for even longer. Some of the Telvanni Wizards claim to have been around from before even Tiber Septim's empire. "What you learn here will last you a lifetime, several if your talented" -Savro's Aren, College of Winterhold