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West Coast Record Breaking Attempt 

Geoff Marshall
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On Thursday 17th June 2021, Avanti and Network Rail teamed up to attempt to break the record for the fastest railway journey between London and Glasgow. Pendolino 390 044 newly named as "Royal Scot" set off to beat the Advanced Passenger Train (APT) time of 3 hours, 52 minutes, 40 seconds.
The attempt also celebrated the value of the UK's railway industry whilst showcaing the ease of travelling between the home nations, whilst raising money for the Railway Benefit Fund and Action For Children.
My thanks to Avanti on everyone on board that I interviewed - Please Note : I interviewed Tim and Pete in their food/drinks break moment which is why they weren't wearing face coverings at that time.
Thanks also to the additional clips from the following people!
Autounder (Leyland) - / @autounder
Brian (Polesworth) - / @sykarost
JmatthewsUK (Atherstone) - / @jmatthewsuk
Georgia (Wigan) - / @glovestrains

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@SkeletonSyskey
@SkeletonSyskey 3 года назад
Shoutout to the people who made the footage of the train passing through the stations.
@gstakktransport5227
@gstakktransport5227 3 года назад
Especially the one at the bridge for Wigan. I’ve been there and the path there is insanely muddy all the time
@shaunganley
@shaunganley 3 года назад
Watching from the USA, and the amount of shots along the way is just spectacular. Wow!
@PublicTransport4U
@PublicTransport4U 3 года назад
Exactly! Wish I could've made it!
@caramelldansen2204
@caramelldansen2204 2 года назад
@@gstakktransport5227 You've been to Wigan? I'm so sorry. :P
@MattCamelly
@MattCamelly 2 года назад
@@gstakktransport5227 Ikr that bridge is good for trainspotting. Good walk through all the trees etc too
@goatgamer001
@goatgamer001 3 года назад
Train: delays 21 seconds Japanese passengers: That's very late
@SK_3PT1
@SK_3PT1 3 года назад
lol
@goatgamer001
@goatgamer001 3 года назад
@@SK_3PT1 xd
@sabrina7839
@sabrina7839 3 года назад
True
@freyer94
@freyer94 3 года назад
lol, even with 3s late, JR do a press conference to give official public excuses, and maybe fire the driver
@chrishines6048
@chrishines6048 3 года назад
Lol
@stevieinselby
@stevieinselby 3 года назад
I love Tim's reasoning for taking a model APT with him 🤣
@thomaswhitcomb624
@thomaswhitcomb624 3 года назад
Wasn’t needed in the end
@railwayhonza
@railwayhonza 3 года назад
lol
@PublicTransport4U
@PublicTransport4U 3 года назад
Same!
@RatelHBadger
@RatelHBadger 3 года назад
A little bit subversive "if the record is broken, in a way they will still hold the record"
@persilious81
@persilious81 2 года назад
@@RatelHBadger Might even call it "Trumpian"
@Stjaernljus
@Stjaernljus 3 года назад
"It's smooth. It's quiet - and an altogether delightful experience."
@robthemod58
@robthemod58 3 года назад
Don’t be Blue, Peter.
@emporioalnino4670
@emporioalnino4670 3 года назад
*tea having a seizure in the background
@DangItshere
@DangItshere 3 года назад
The fact that Pendolino being a "tilting train" and a almost direct successor to APT is quite endearing
@formidable38
@formidable38 3 года назад
BR sold the tech for a song to the Italians who then ofcourse went on to develop the Pendolino. Quite ironic.
@melanierhianna
@melanierhianna 3 года назад
@@formidable38 Basically it was working (after some issues) but Thatcher wouldn’t give the last bit of money needed (because the press campaign against the train) and so it got cancelled just before it was finished. Wasn’t BRs decision.
@nkt1
@nkt1 3 года назад
@@melanierhianna That’s not the full story. APT only made sense on the WCML. Without the necessary track and signalling upgrades to allow the APT to travel sufficiently fast to benefit from tilt, the business case for the train disappeared.
@formidable38
@formidable38 3 года назад
@@melanierhianna Agreed! It was pretty much a victim of its own success and Thatcher hated the railways. With a little more 'can do' from her it would have been sorted.
@PublicTransport4U
@PublicTransport4U 3 года назад
I couldn't agree more!
@4KExplorer
@4KExplorer 3 года назад
I'd love it if Avanti collaborated with LNER for an east coast versus west coast race from London to Edinburgh, with split-screen and everything!
@spdfatomicstructure
@spdfatomicstructure 3 года назад
The LNER train will likely win. It’ll be a shorter distance over the same 200km/h speed limit
@19TheChaosWarrior79
@19TheChaosWarrior79 3 года назад
@@spdfatomicstructure the curves above Carlisle slow the WCML way down compared to ECML too 😃
@andrewbryant927
@andrewbryant927 3 года назад
That would be awesome
@roundandroundmyworld
@roundandroundmyworld 3 года назад
Shades of the 1895 "Race to the North" when either the North British Railway or the Caledonian Railway would get the fastest train through to Aberdeen from London -- depending which one got past Dundee and onto the shared track first!
@alangaming2003
@alangaming2003 3 года назад
Erm don’t you mean VTEC because LNER only existed once
@ellajinks8802
@ellajinks8802 3 года назад
That’s so bizarre seeing my dad doing the official timing. It’s so much a part of my childhood, weird how I’ve missed it! I can say with fondness and a touch of eye rolling but jeez, you bunch of dorks!
@Neilhuny
@Neilhuny 2 года назад
High Five for the funniest comment here!
@skypesos
@skypesos 3 года назад
Who else saw The Man in Seat 61's video a couple of days ago, heard Geoff's voice there, and was waiting for this video?
@explorer914
@explorer914 3 года назад
SNCF should invite Geoff the next time they do a TGV speed record run.
@UnhingedNarrative
@UnhingedNarrative 2 года назад
The TGV speed record is 357mph that's too fast that couldn't possibly be beaten
@tdlovestrains
@tdlovestrains 3 года назад
Missing out by 21 seconds. That's heartbreaking
@lnertrainfan1785
@lnertrainfan1785 3 года назад
I know :(
@tdlovestrains
@tdlovestrains 3 года назад
@@lnertrainfan1785 I mean the positive is that it beat the old penileno time. And you ained a new sub.
@goatgamer001
@goatgamer001 3 года назад
Wow very big difference
@nrellis666
@nrellis666 3 года назад
if only they'd had fewer passengers
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 3 года назад
Japan:I WANT MY FU*KING MONEY BACK!
@jgodfrey546
@jgodfrey546 3 года назад
Superb video! Given that the APT exceded speed limits throughout its record-breaking run, being 21 seconds tardy while adhering to same is impressive indeed, & reflects some impressive driving by Mr Barker...
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 3 года назад
He was a lovely chap, highly experienced and knew his stuff. Top driving!
@goatgamer001
@goatgamer001 3 года назад
@@geofftech2 bruh instant reply
@goatgamer001
@goatgamer001 3 года назад
21 seconds is such a big difference!
@ModelRailway
@ModelRailway 3 года назад
Not quite correct ... the APT record run kept to a max line speed of 125mile/h and kept to it’s own line speed profile. The profile is subtly different to that of the current EPS profile that the Pendolino kept to and there’s a few other differences in the standards/rules between the APT and Pendolino... (I helped create it during WCRM! 👍)
@LukeAlfordUKsteam
@LukeAlfordUKsteam 3 года назад
Geoff actually got me more into modern trains because I always loved train travel and steam trains but Geoff got me into modern stock and how it all works and the people who run it. Top work! PS. I'm now a trainspotter haha.
@goatgamer001
@goatgamer001 3 года назад
Nice
@neilwilson5785
@neilwilson5785 3 года назад
Just enjpy the train ride. It's so much fun.
@seat61
@seat61 3 года назад
Excellent video in your inimitable style, Geoff (I've picked up some tips, I think!). A great account of a great trip - I think there needs to be a rematch next year!
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 3 года назад
thanks Mark, nice to finally meet you! 😎👍
@dskadd32
@dskadd32 3 года назад
@@geofftech2 It was great to hear you, and briefly see you, on Mark's video too. I enjoy the work you both do. Thank you
@garygrant2000
@garygrant2000 3 года назад
So good to see The man in Seat 61 in the vid. Been following your blogs even before your RU-vid vids were around.
@paulr301
@paulr301 3 года назад
Kinda Wow! two of my favourite vloggers on the one train!
@bowlerstuff9589
@bowlerstuff9589 2 года назад
You should have sat in the actual carriage seat 61
@HM...333
@HM...333 3 года назад
"Welcome on board this Peugeot pendolino to Glasgow Central!!"
@twcc406
@twcc406 3 года назад
I thought the same, not often you see the lion it's usually the St Andrew cross nowadays
@southcalder
@southcalder 3 года назад
Well, the Pendolino was designed by Fiat. That part of Fiat was of course bought by Alstom, however the rest of Fiat merged last year with PSA, the owners of Peugeot. So, you’re not far off.
@joshryan5890
@joshryan5890 3 года назад
So that's why they failed the record
@SamuelMusarika
@SamuelMusarika 2 года назад
@@southcalder I am sure he meant it as joke because of the lion at the front which made it look like a Peugeot lol.
@MrTimDunn
@MrTimDunn 3 года назад
Geoff; you and I have been chums for very many years and I think that *that* was the longest rail-related monologue that you have ever let me get away with. And that's despite you editing out the really bits out too. V jolly! Almost like we had planned to sit adjacent. Maybe we should co-ordinate diaries and do some sort of rail-related video again... ;)
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 3 года назад
All the editing!! Ha ha. You were great, thank you sir … let’s indeed do a train thing soon. Yes yes 👍
@steve.b.23
@steve.b.23 3 года назад
I'd love to see you working together! Maybe put in a word at UKTV, Tim? I was following the journey with both of you on Twitter. I must say that I'm a bit disappointed that you didn't show the part of the line where you can actually see the west coast, Geoff! Tim's seen my (shoddy) photos, you're more than welcome to use (laugh at) them. : )
@SteveOldham
@SteveOldham 3 года назад
@@steve.b.23 I know it doesn't fit sequentially in the video, but where is the shot at 8:00 in? It's after Pete Waterman talked about going through the Lake DIstrict but does look similar to the Morecambe Bay view.
@skritchesdeath5752
@skritchesdeath5752 3 года назад
This so needs to happen!!!
@personwhotalkstomuch4898
@personwhotalkstomuch4898 3 года назад
I would love you & Geoff to do a series for UKTV. Your last 2 railway ones were wonderful. I have seen 1 on the Underground being promoted on UKTV, so perhaps Geoff may be in it?;)
@VaughanMcAlley
@VaughanMcAlley 3 года назад
I kept waiting for the replacement bus to be announced.
@MontytheHorse
@MontytheHorse 3 года назад
APT had the advantage over the Pendolino. The former was, IIRC, allowed to run at up to 140mph. While the latter was limited to a maximum of 125mph. So, only missing out by 21 seconds is really impressive. Hopefully Avanti will have another go.
@danielbliss1988
@danielbliss1988 2 года назад
If they'd get cab signaling they'd be able to do the 140 routinely on relatively straighter sections of track -- and probably also up the restricted bits by 10 or 20mph as well as you'd no longer be worrying about unsighted signals.
@brianfretwell3886
@brianfretwell3886 2 года назад
However the WCML has had improvement work since then so there should have been fewer points where the maximum speed slowed this one.
@PeteS_1994
@PeteS_1994 Год назад
I've heard new Avanti WCML stock would actually be slower, 110 mph and non tilting. I'm starting to wonder if this is partially because of HS2. Less pressure to make WCML faster?
@rankedcitizen
@rankedcitizen Год назад
@@PeteS_1994i think its because the new stock is part o the iet family and have extremely fast acceleration speeds so the acceleration would offset the speed difference
@eastpavilion-er6081
@eastpavilion-er6081 3 года назад
I remembered that when APT set the record on the line, it ignored the line speed limit and got up to 225km/h in several places, just like the Intercity 225 has done on ECML. Getting this close to the record without exceeding the line speed limit is fantastic.
@stepheneyles2198
@stepheneyles2198 3 года назад
That was in the days before Elfin Saftee clobbered everything we do in this country!!
@TalesOfWar
@TalesOfWar 3 года назад
@@stepheneyles2198 Also in the days where rail disasters were far, far more common. So there is that.
@ekvedrek
@ekvedrek 2 года назад
@@stepheneyles2198 mans angry cause hes been nicked for going 49 in a 40 zone
@jamrah8713
@jamrah8713 2 года назад
Do trains still exceed the speed limit on the ECML? Because I remember vivdly when i was on the way to darlington from leeds, the Stretch from York to Northallerton according to my speedometer went to around 140mph for a short period of time, and it definitely felt faster than 125mph
@ChangesOneTim
@ChangesOneTim Год назад
@@jamrah8713 No, they don't. Overspeed is controlled and all trains now have data recorders which are monitored for compliance!
@AHJ99.
@AHJ99. 2 месяца назад
I think we need to appreciate that that hero of a driver sat there and held his bladder for nearly 4 hours! What a guy!
@ashfuller3480
@ashfuller3480 3 года назад
I’d travel more by rail if it was cheaper
@jamesknightvo
@jamesknightvo 3 года назад
Regretably, it's still much quicker and cheaper to drive from where I live in Wales to central London - and that includes the Congestion Charge and London's Mafia parking fee racket.
@AlonsoRules
@AlonsoRules 3 года назад
It is cheap if you book in advance.
@JoshNunnyt
@JoshNunnyt 3 года назад
@@jamesknightvo Lol where are you booking your tickets? Use a third party app!
@reinerjung1613
@reinerjung1613 2 года назад
@@jamesknightvo Car travel is cheap, as people usually underestimate the cost of the car (which almost everyone does) and a lot of subsidies go into car travel which you pay with your taxes, of course. This includes build and maintaining roads, ecological impacts, measures against noise pollution, cleaning roads, additional police forces, fire brigades, rescue services, curing insured people, etc. However, is there not an option to park on the outskirts of London and travel the rest by train or tube to avoid huge fees in London?
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 года назад
What a joy to watch. Slick edit and great fun, loved the natter from the guests!
@mickandmj
@mickandmj 3 года назад
Stunning video. Love it. I feel such grief about the APT. I remember the hope we had at the time for it. A cousin of mine was working on its signalling. Would have changed UK railways for ever.
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 3 года назад
thank you Martin, glad you enjoyed!
@CoolAsFreya
@CoolAsFreya 3 года назад
Geoff, I must say, great interviews and amazing documentation of this special event, you've made a great video!
@aaronjamesf1
@aaronjamesf1 3 года назад
I do love and miss the Pendolino. Brilliant train. The fact it has an appearance from Tim Dunn makes this amazing video epic too.
@roundandroundmyworld
@roundandroundmyworld 3 года назад
This is one of your most entertaining videos which I've seen so far -- special occasion, the interviews with the people on board, and the anticipation of hearing the outcome of the record attempt. Great fun to watch!
@sirakaikarate2900
@sirakaikarate2900 3 года назад
This is a video ive been waiting for. I hope they have another attempt
@hojomo
@hojomo 3 года назад
Fantastic coverage - Thanks Geoff!
@ashleyjarvis954
@ashleyjarvis954 3 года назад
Fantastic, close shave. Worked with people on railways decades ago - a great team, dedicated, professional, humerous. Had the privilege of visiting the deeds archive archive and looking at original line plans for much legal/wayleaves work.
@lorenzo_contini_7
@lorenzo_contini_7 3 года назад
Tim Dunn seems such a nice guy, I'd love to listen to him talking about railways!
@Jobother
@Jobother 3 года назад
Hes friends with Gareth Dennis and goes on his livestreams every once and awhile.
@lorenzo_contini_7
@lorenzo_contini_7 3 года назад
@@Jobother cool thanks 😊
@RandomRailways
@RandomRailways 3 года назад
He did a series on UKTV Play called The Architecture The Railways Built (Available online)
@bendursley
@bendursley 3 года назад
@@RandomRailways both series of that show are good! Lots of things covered!
@alondonview7685
@alondonview7685 3 года назад
I've been looking forward to this video a lot.
@hartstukken
@hartstukken 3 года назад
😂😂 I was on twitter biting my nails and then i saw the 21 seconds tweet!
@iansmithtravels
@iansmithtravels 3 года назад
Super video Geoff, great access to speak to all involved. Keep up the great work 👍🏼
@100SteveB
@100SteveB 3 года назад
What a great effort! But it must be said that it a bit mad that Britain developed a faster train nearly 4 decades ago, but in their wisdom at the time they gave up on it. How very British! Nearly 40 years later and the APT record still stands. I am sure that APT in the siding had a smug look on it's face whilst the Penolino shot past it was obviously aware of the 50mph speed restriction, and that that would keep the record safe.
@ziggygraham6436
@ziggygraham6436 3 года назад
I work at Carstairs Junction with network rail, unfortunately the 50mph speed restriction has been in place for a while, so hopefully we can get that fixed in time for another record attempt 😀
@AWildSnowball
@AWildSnowball 2 года назад
Yeah! Hope you're enjoying it at least :)
@anthonyholroyd5359
@anthonyholroyd5359 3 года назад
Great for James!! Good to see young blood in the railways. I'm similar. Started in the railways just after uni, at 22 in Hospitality. Became a conductor at 24 and now nearly 3 years of conducting and 5 years of service . . . Aged 26 and looking down the barrel at 27. Great job, great industry 👍 best of luck to the guy :D
@Robslondon
@Robslondon 3 года назад
Been looking forward to watching this!
@dodul65
@dodul65 3 года назад
Loved your presentation.... The atmosphere and energy... 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@skritchesdeath5752
@skritchesdeath5752 3 года назад
Driver was so humble and blasé about it all!
@torfossberg1137
@torfossberg1137 3 года назад
Brilliant to see people like Tim dunn on there!
@davidangel-blair9358
@davidangel-blair9358 3 года назад
21 seconds! Really! Great video. Thank you Geoff.
@m1klgordon
@m1klgordon 3 года назад
Thank you, Geoff. And also for 'All the stations'. In particular Corrour.
@TravelWithDan
@TravelWithDan 3 года назад
I have loved all the posts about this fantastic trip, culminating in your video! 21 seconds out is a fantastic achievement, but I didn't know it was the fastest Pendo to do that route! That could have been praised more I feel! Great video as always Geoff!
@circlingabove8018
@circlingabove8018 3 года назад
Geoff's videos always get a like before I even start watching them because you know they're always going to be good, lol.
@cal920c
@cal920c 3 года назад
I love the passion for the rails everyone on board seems to have on board!
@RichardWells1
@RichardWells1 3 года назад
@Geoff Marshall - excellent fast-moving documentary: great story, great interviews, great edit. Thank you!
@EdMcF1
@EdMcF1 3 года назад
Neneh Cherry and Youssou N'dour song springs to mind.
@AllThingsRailways
@AllThingsRailways 3 года назад
Great video Geoff, very well edited and produced with great featuring guests and shots 👍🚄
@coasterb1
@coasterb1 3 года назад
Thank you Geoff!
@comenting3207
@comenting3207 2 года назад
21 seconds thats impresive and the apt did a great job at keeping the record
@TheDaf95xf
@TheDaf95xf 3 года назад
Fantastic video Geoff 🙂 Big thanks for everyone making it happen 😂 Pete Waterman what a cool guy he’s looking 👍🏻
@frankmimnagh420
@frankmimnagh420 3 года назад
Thanks for the video, Geoff. 👍
@dannyfeller7034
@dannyfeller7034 3 года назад
Live in Glasgow, it’s nice to see more being done to bring us together :)
@timsully8958
@timsully8958 3 года назад
What a shame! So close and yet... Thanks for the footage Geoff. Great to see young Tim on there as I greatly enjoy the enthusiasm he has for all things railway related that comes across in his programmes. 👍 Hopefully you'll get another invitation if they try another Royal Scot run in the future? 😜 Cheers for another highly enjoyable video 🍻🍀😀
@canyontiger4022
@canyontiger4022 3 года назад
400 miles in less than four hours! 🤯 Bravo to you all!
@thomassell4962
@thomassell4962 3 года назад
Brilliant video Geoff, I filmed your train whizzing past just outside of rugby
@DanCollinsPhotography
@DanCollinsPhotography 3 года назад
I’m glad you showed the APT at Crewe. The motor car did used to be at Coventry electric railway museum before it closed down. I have seen it before it got transferred to Crewe to join the rest of it
@Discoretrox
@Discoretrox 3 года назад
Great vid...lovely to see the legend that is Pete Waterman 👍
@jmatthewsuk
@jmatthewsuk 3 года назад
Great video Geoff, you have brilliantly captured the journey for all of those who couldn’t be onboard. Glad I could contribute with an external shot and thanks for the credit 👍🏻
@railwaybenefitfund
@railwaybenefitfund 3 года назад
Fantastic video Geoff! Great to see our President Pete on there :)
@Porkchop245
@Porkchop245 3 года назад
Been waiting for this :)
@mattc9998
@mattc9998 2 года назад
God I can't wait until these speeds are no longer a struggle in this country and are the norm, if not the minimum. Well done Avanti and well done Geoff for a fantastic video as always.
@valerianocuomo996
@valerianocuomo996 5 месяцев назад
Avanti GROUP, acquisided from FS GROUP,italian GROUP.
@tsrgoinc
@tsrgoinc 3 года назад
Go on the APT, for a train that was experimental in most respects and pushed into service ahead of schedule before it was ready just shows you how fast a train it was!
@WeeStef
@WeeStef 3 года назад
Great video as always Geoff,was a pity they lost out on literally seconds!!
@russellgxy2905
@russellgxy2905 3 года назад
Off by less than half a minute... that's DAMN impressive. I wasn't sure if it was possible, what with the WCML's geography and generally being a bit outdated compared with the ECML, but the fact that "Royal Scot" came _this_ close to beating the APT's record is still astounding! Now the next step is for Network Rail to allow another attempt. After all, if they let Tornado get up to 100 back in 2017 and she broke that barrier! Imagine what the Pendilino's could do with a bit of leeway
@NXEAFrenchie
@NXEAFrenchie 3 года назад
Avanti Drivers are always entertaining us trainspotters with their nice tones
@anniesoernym
@anniesoernym 3 года назад
Wonderful video, Geoff! Thanks for the suspenseful editing and the interesting interviews. And I had to laugh when my face mirrored yours at the 21sec reveal 😮🤭
@Jjtwhite
@Jjtwhite 3 года назад
I knew you would do it Geoff you do every thing
@davidlindsay5584
@davidlindsay5584 3 года назад
Our southbound from crewe to London was broken down at Stafford as it came through, engineers had to wait to turn the power off so as not to slow down the attempt
@robtyman4281
@robtyman4281 3 года назад
David Lindsay - classically British. We go for a record attempt and the train breaks down. wtf?!? 🤔😲😳😟🤨
@FredJanssen1
@FredJanssen1 3 года назад
@@robtyman4281 I think you interpreted that wrong; a different train broke down and had to wait for the for the record train to pass before they'd do something about it
@chrimbo90
@chrimbo90 3 года назад
Totally worth it though 😜
@rogerwhittle2078
@rogerwhittle2078 3 года назад
First of all; well done to everyone involved, particularly the rail staff and commiserations on the twenty odd second deficit. Having said that, I'm kind of glad it played out this way. I have always been furious at the way British Rail management and the press treated the APT and how the project was simply cancelled on the spot and the two trains shunted in to museums. The British public were given the distinct impression British Railway engineers were hopeless and we were well rid of the APT. Twenty or thirty years later, we have to buy the same thing from the Italians! The scientific and technical understanding of 95% of the population - then and now - approaches zero. They don't understand the difference between doing the tilting thing, with digital electronics and computers, and doing it with analogue electronics. It is comparable to comparing the Mallard's record breaking run and the latest Hitachi train sets. The APT project was starved of people, resources and money, but above all; time. It was set up to fail, by introducing it on the day 'ordinary' electric trains arced to a standstill and was the worst weather in living memory. To abandon the project and more or less write off the British Railway Industry, was a dreadful, yet typical example of British management. In short, they couldn't organise a p1ssup in a Brewery - like the car industry. Where are those industries now? I shan't compare the APT with Concorde, it wasn't ever in that class, but it was similar in that Concorde was not only beautiful and very fast, it was technologically absolutely stunning. It was UNBELIEVABLY amazing. It had just four (one for each engine) digital electronic PCB's (printed circuit boards) in it - because the original chips could no longer be made and they were substitutes. Everything else was analogue. I doubt it could even be done nowadays? APT was all analogue and it is indicative of how it was viewed by BR management, by how quickly BR binned the project after the launch day. Basically the next day. Criminal and to the long term detriment of Railways in Britain. Rant off. Well done Geoff, another great one.
@streuthmonkey1
@streuthmonkey1 3 года назад
British Rail engineers *were* hopeless. This is why engineers from the aerospace industry were commissioned to design the APT. It was built with substandard parts by British Rail engineers deliberately. It was they who were responsible for it not performing as required, the subsequent bad press and the resulting lack of opposition to it being scrapped. This is why we ended up with the far more inferior Intercity 125, which was a creation of British Rail engineers.
@rogerwhittle2078
@rogerwhittle2078 3 года назад
@@streuthmonkey1 What was the motivation for their action, or lack of it? And were they the same aerospace engineers who created Concorde? British engineers have rarely been hopeless, only poorly led, poorly supported and poorly financed. The HST was amazingly successful and its gradual passing is lamented by all.
@rogink
@rogink 3 года назад
Thanks. In a nutshell why BR needed to be privatised!
@kubilaymendi5439
@kubilaymendi5439 2 года назад
@@rogink ‘why it needed to be privatised.’ Well, we all know how that went down
@nuntiusuk3345
@nuntiusuk3345 2 года назад
Well said and I totally agree . British rail Engineers developed the technology and I well recall the gutter press making fun of it just because of early teething issues .
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 3 года назад
Omg the train looks absolutely brilliant!
@AutoUnder
@AutoUnder 3 года назад
Thank you so much for including my clip Geoff! I’d have loved to have been there
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 3 года назад
Thank you for letting me use it! very kind 👍👍
@roberthatcher2773
@roberthatcher2773 3 года назад
Great stuff Geoff!
@ericlee2684
@ericlee2684 3 года назад
That moment when they announce the train miss by 21 seconds
@neilwilson5785
@neilwilson5785 3 года назад
I love a heroic 'failure' Of course it is a great success. Wonderful work by everyone involved.
@ianmcclavin
@ianmcclavin 3 года назад
Aw, so close!! Still, I'm glad you all had a great day by the looks of things!
@Thetrainguy-xt9nr
@Thetrainguy-xt9nr 3 года назад
Great video as usual
@Davehearne43
@Davehearne43 2 года назад
Keep up with the amazing work ✅️ 👏
@saintuk70
@saintuk70 3 года назад
The poor APT, I always hoped, as I passed it every day in its siding in the Glasgow Shields Road depot, that one day we'd see it operational - nice it's only taken a few more years to progress.
@LisaMarli
@LisaMarli 3 года назад
Good run. 21 seconds difference and no special speed exemptions is damn good. I wish we had trains and track like that in America. I hate planes and cars. I would much prefer to take a train everywhere.
@drdcheung
@drdcheung 3 года назад
Wow. On tenterhooks to see if it was going to happen or not. Thanks for a great video.
@alexholden
@alexholden 3 года назад
This was unexpectedly fascinating.
@cheesedoff-with4410
@cheesedoff-with4410 3 года назад
I might have guessed you'd be on board. Hope it was fun.
@robbiemorrison7085
@robbiemorrison7085 3 года назад
My last time on a pendolino was in Jan 2020- went to Coventry to the transport museum- can’t wait to ride these trains again
@Sim0nTrains
@Sim0nTrains 3 года назад
Very nice video, it's a shame that it missed out by 21 seconds but look like everyone had a great time onboard and nice to see some lovely clips of the train passing through some areas as well. Hope they try again next year after the Carstairs area being remodelled,
@trainstrainstrains40
@trainstrainstrains40 3 года назад
Interesting video Geoff, can't believe they were 21 seconds late!
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 3 года назад
Japan:I WANT MY FU*KING MONEY BACK
@ewan_rbx4690
@ewan_rbx4690 2 года назад
Finally a Avanti Video
@PlaneandTrainWindowSeat
@PlaneandTrainWindowSeat 3 года назад
Great video Geoff.
@boriss.861
@boriss.861 3 года назад
Well done Just shows how good those embryonic computers and APT train systems were if only they were allowed to be developed properly back in 1981!
@robertwimpory3117
@robertwimpory3117 3 года назад
Wow , doing the locomotion with Pete Wateramn..
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 3 года назад
I love Pete Waterman! 😜
@ThePurpleLady-86
@ThePurpleLady-86 3 года назад
Fantastic video. Shame it missed out on the APT record. But Fantastic to hear it became the fastest pendalino
@cjmillsnun
@cjmillsnun 3 года назад
Interesting that the Train number on the matrix display still starts VT
@rbrwr
@rbrwr 3 года назад
It's pretty clear that (except maybe for that TSR at Carstairs) the limits of the current infrastructure have been reached and the record won't be broken by more than a few seconds until HS2 is fully operational. It's not a question of APT v Pendo, it's a question of how the signals are spaced and what speed limits they allow.
@straightpipediesel
@straightpipediesel 3 года назад
ETCS is scheduled to come before HS2
@johndonaldson9757
@johndonaldson9757 2 года назад
Rob, if you look at the path timing on the last leg from Bridge St, juction into the station, you'll see it lost over a minute, that would have been the difference between making it win or lose the race,,j
@neilbain8736
@neilbain8736 3 года назад
I watched with interest. On the Radio 4 news, the article noted that the APT was allowed to exceed speed limits, but the Pendilino did not and stayed within them. This is an impressive run.
@MadnessIncVP
@MadnessIncVP 3 года назад
Huh... Guess I don't give Avanti enough love. Well played by them.
@peterstransport337
@peterstransport337 3 года назад
The APT is amazing, it still holds up as an amazing train!
@xander1052
@xander1052 3 года назад
though it's record happened with breaking the speed limit on the WCML, it was allowed to go to 140, while the Pendolinos had to stick to 125 despite being able to hit the same speeds. They could have beaten it with updated signalling easy.
@peterstransport337
@peterstransport337 3 года назад
@@xander1052 Bit unfortunate but rules are rules lol
@xander1052
@xander1052 3 года назад
@@peterstransport337 yup
@6yjjk
@6yjjk 3 года назад
When the record does eventually fall, I'd LOVE to see APT come out for a rematch.
@peterstransport337
@peterstransport337 3 года назад
@@6yjjk That would be brilliant!
@andyrathbone6365
@andyrathbone6365 3 года назад
I was watching Mark, The Man In Seat Sixty-one's video, on this epic run, and right near the end I hear a familiar voice, your's and I wondered when we'd see you video
@jmas1070
@jmas1070 3 года назад
Me too!
@jaymatsell1219
@jaymatsell1219 3 года назад
The pendolinos got 21 seconds to go…
@ShoaibKhan-bz5qm
@ShoaibKhan-bz5qm 3 года назад
Did you see me in the video oh no
@danielundefined3361
@danielundefined3361 3 года назад
Tim Dunn's voice sounds like a blend of Geoff and Richard Hammond
@RatelHBadger
@RatelHBadger 3 года назад
Looks a bit like a combo of the two as well
@grahamross6397
@grahamross6397 3 года назад
I see Wigan, I upvote! I see interview with Pete Waterman, I wish I could vote twice.
@ScottishNSRailFan
@ScottishNSRailFan 3 года назад
Was on the inaugural run of the APT, with the family and my son was the youngest, 4, on board. Interviewed by the media and still have the tickets and the memorabilia given out at the time. Needless to say, have the Hornby APT in my collection and have ordered the latest version of the version.
@mich8050
@mich8050 3 года назад
10:56 that look is Gold Mr. Marshall.
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