Wests Tigers Blame Game | Who is really to blame? | NRL 360 

Needed to keep Benji around ,even if just to help him bring through the next gen,

A new logo with both a magpie and a tiger on the same circle on the chest would look cool.

I like how everyone is quick on blaming the coach , the players need a kick in the back side there the ones who don’t perform

That package was brutal whew And look at the players that have gone through that club mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

Ben Ikin makes so much sense. Love him on 360. The problems go far deeper than the coach. Ivan Cleary got a shellacking too ouch

Tigers could of had paps and benji for minimum wage but instead have brooks for almost a million 😂😂

Brad Arthur scored 2 wooden spoons and is still around at the Eels, are most NRL clubs just impatient or am i missing something?

Getting a decent halfback would be a great start.

Campbelltown is just as appealing an area as Penrith. Idk why setting up at Campbelltown would be an issue.

Look at the Board of the club ....

The administration need to fire themselves and that's never gonna happen.

Look how sacking the coach is going for the sharks

Pascoe has also allowed the Rabbitohs to sign a membership partnership with the MacArthur Bulls. Members get access to home games of both respective clubs. Funnily enough the Bulls play at Campbelltown. Pascoe needs to be held accountable. No wonder the Panthers gave him the flick

All of these guys in different ways are correct. In my opinion there is a huge elephant in the room. Western Suburbs-Balmain, it just ain't working. They have no natural home ground. They have no clearly identifiable jersey. There is no football team. It's a corporate identity. Wests Tigers Pty Ltd. You can't refer to a footie club as an organisation. No one would have loyalty to that. The whole thing was a survival reaction to a bad situation. The Manly-Norths merger lasted 2-3 seasons and Manly jumped for a lot of reasons, finance being one of them. St George-Illawarra had a relationship to begin with. For mine I'd pull the plug and move the Magpies with a magpie jumper to Campbelltown. Set up what Gus calls the strategic pathways. You bring back that Maggie jumper to Campelltown and christen the grandstand the Tommy Raudonikis stand and see what happens. I suppose the Balmain boys will think the same but I just don't see the traditional Tiger territory having a future.

Mehh campbelltown has been ignored since the merger. And they wonder why all the gun wests juniors end up in other systems lol

Bring in jock madden to half, zach cini on the wing or centre, Tom omone to front row and start there.

Magpies have outstanding players I watched every week until covid an I’ve never seen any of em in first grade - kiah cooper - Allan Fitzgibbon - tuki simpkins - Joey leilua - Zak dockar clay

The last thing Wests should do is sack Maguire. We have seen over the last 10 year that Sheens, Potter, Taylor, Cleary have all come and gone and the results stay the same. The problem lies with the recruitment/retention and who is running the club. Jack Gibson said that a good club starts in the front office and Wests Tigers can't even get that right.

I absolutely HATE that coaches are solely blamed for teams poor performances. It really is the worst excuse.

Ain’t nothing with Campbetown.... C-Town for life ✊🏼

Time to bring Tim Sheens back. He's the only one who can save this club!!

So many good players from nz and locals. But gone. Management needs to cope it not just coach.

Ben, it's a question of people not place. Let that sink in.

Split the comp with extra finals games would bring more passion for the players and fans

The players who run out on the field and disgrace the Jersey each week. The coach doesn slack of after 30 minutes of leading 6-0 and let in 40 points...

Madge's coaching style of screaming and shouting and kicking chairs just doesn't work anymore.

Put any one of Wests top 17 players into the Storm system and watch them become better players overnight.

When you lose players like papenhuysen tedesco ado carr you see why they have no superstars as all the best players don't seem to want to be there and there are always lies and whispers and no loyalty they kept the least of the big three and now they are feeling the consequences

When is edene gebbie will be playing in west tigers jumper?

Tigers have signed many great players.

Benji and Brooks probly their best combo,big mistake getting rid of Benji I reckon

Luke Brooks gotta go mate on your Bike!!!

When you get rid of the best player the club has ever seen, you deserve everything bad that comes your way!

He can't deliver on retention/recruitment because the 'bag of tricks' no longer comes with paper bags of under-the-table cash....simples. Need to get themselves a Salary Stetson.

There are no proven head coaches left in the game, so clubs can’t just keep sacking coaches. The problems are with culture, player attitudes and recruitment.

You can deflect a lot of what Maguire is doing for all the club-related issues, but in the actual moment, his decisions have been awful. Bringing in Leilua and Roberts, what is this 2016? Also, the middle forward rotation week in week out is an absolute headscratcher. Uto and Twal go off and the game is in the balance. Manly get on top and then neither return....utter stupidity.

The Tigers will bounce back. It's an attitude & mental block around their defense....they need to have a huge attitude & mental shift about defense next game, otherwise they're f**ked for the remainder of 2021.

When Walter is ok put him in.. I trust them to beat dragons this week

What happens to Madge if the tigers get slaughtered again this weekend? Does he get fired? If so, who will replace him?

Drop Brooks to start with, we need a good halves combination. Why they let Benji go I will never know. Luke Brooks has had years to prove himself and he’s just not making the cut.

no mention in my man Beau Ryan

WHERE DO YOU WANT US TO START??? I’m a lifelong Tigers fan (from the Balmain side of the merger) & there are any one of a number of reasons but I’ll stick by them & hope they improve as the season goes on & can reduce the moments where they concede 30+ points each week 🤨🤨🤨

Buzz is actually right on this one

Penrith could of kept Tamou for one more year. He doesn't deserve this and we are looking for one more prop anyway so what was the point of losing him in hindsight.

In my opinion Luke Brooks is very underrated he could be captain of any park football team in the country 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂but seriously just cut the dude loose already, he,s a serious liability

Oh no all the games are oh hard to play St George or looking good

Fun fact. Tigers haven't made finals since 2011. Maybe not a fun fact for Tigers fans.

Considering that these people are professional media journos, they really need to stop talking over each other

Don't underestimate the seriousness of this story. You never want to spread fear and panic through the sporting community but there is certainly a responsibility here to be transparent and completely honest with the citizenry. Labelling the situation a crisis (upwards of half a dozen times) may seem melodramatic to some, but you get a sense that these people realise the real possibility that things could be getting a whole lot worse before they get better. Without putting the fear of God in anyone, I actually fear things may never get better. This could even be the existential crisis most of us refuse to acknowledge. Wake up people and get your head out of the sand. Don't be distracted and believe a pandemic or global warming are the things we need to be worrying about. Sporting teams are playing games against each other and one team has to lose. Sure, they lose one game and nobody notices. But then a second. A third. Suddenly a ripple has become an unstoppable force and a team of guys playing a game are left holding a wooden spoon. And where does that leave us? Where does that leave my children? And their children?

No players that wanna put in the hard yards

Tedesco, Papenhuyzen, Ado-Carr, Moses, Blake Austin, Koroibete, Marshall, Fifita, Lodge... the list goes on. And they are replaced with overpaid and over the hill. Player management is the underlying problem that leads to poor performance.

Who is to blame? the players.

I can't see Madge&Gus Gould working together.

It’s easy, the board needs to go

I'll take Michael Maguire at the eels as coach

The buck stops with the CEO in my opinion

Been saying it since Liu got sacked. Tigers wont ever make the finals without a halfback.

Tigers haven’t made the 8 in over 10 years

5 year plan. Bro its been 10

Change Kiwi coach while you’re at it

Even people from Campbelltown don't want to be there, got no hope of attracting players to that area & got no hope of developing juniors in Concord. They are a dead club, only a matter of time.

Too right, too true, should sign a petition to piss W.T CEO off & all those high office @ W.T & most of the players also. Too old & too slow.

Who would want to be a coach. When are the highly paid players going to be held accountable for their own performances. Maybe go back to no win no pay contracts. Milford got sent back to Queensland Cup but didn't suffer any financial consequences, he just had a break form NRL for 2 weeks.

Its simple we need better halves, onya bike brooks

Will they ever play finals football again?

The "players" aren't doing their job. They are paid big heaps of money and aren't turning up to play, sack them not the coach.

Des Hasler is a mad genius. He created the passing front rower & he's now designing the ball playing second rower.

Yer sack the board like players if they cant deliver. Gone

Rugby league is a professional sport played with an amateur attitude. Try the excuse “ we just didn’t turn up” In the nfl or the epl or any of the major leagues. Seriously. If a quarterback in America made the excuse in public “we just didn’t turn up to play today” his locker would be cleaned out before he even got out of the press conference. Seriously it’s pathetic that these players think that’s an excuse. Or worse “We didn’t really prepare well” Well get out of the league. There’s plenty that’ll be happy to turn up, and plenty that’ll be happy to prepare well. Again a professional sport with an amateur attitude.

Excuses!!!!! Youse just got carved up by Tommy turbo

Would be nice to hear someone finish a point rather than jibber. I love the Devils advocate but it would be nice if Buzz would stop taking over people.

A fish rots from the head. Its the board's and Pascoes fault. Ever since Sheens, the board has been f@#$king the Wests Tigers. Get rid of the board!

Brooks needs to go he's worse than Milford

If that ball hadn't of been deflected it's flying over the dead ball line and the Tigers don't score a point. Brooks needs to go ASAP. Musgrove missed 2 tackles that directly led to tries back to back 2 mins apart and he stays on the field and plays more minutes than Stefano, and he'll get selected again this week. The coach needs to go too

Bring in madden and cut away brooks. Brooks has been there for years and is classy at times but doesn’t lead the team around the park. Some blokes are natural leaders. Brooks isn’t

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Get a decent half. Maybe stop flogging the boys at training like you're a drill instructor. So many players have complained about the way the coach trains his players. From multiple teams.

Every year it's the same conversation, coaches under pressure teams not performing. The trouble is there isn't enough talent to have 16 teams capable of winning the comp . There have been fairytales in 05 and 03 but in the history of the game they are few and far between. How's this for an idea the NRL draws a line in the sand ,and says in 2025 the game will be a 10 or 12 team competition . On top of this pump money into 2 big second tier competitions. A big NSW cup and Queensland cup essentially. Clubs could un merge , the Pacific islands could become teams and it would be easier to bring teams from WA , SA or another Brisbane team into the competition without giving them extra salary . Just an idea but I think the NRL needs start protecting it's heart land and breeding grounds more before it wants to expand, I think this will help both

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Tigers should fold and be replaced by another interstate team. They’re not the only club either, there are too many low quality clubs in nsw

Rothfield ruins this show.