@TeKnoVKNG23 ive read river of pain and the audiobook version but it could easily be made into a series. If they made it like 24 each series was a day it would be epic
@@woooooooo9061 Spoilers for the book, so don't read if you plan on reading it. Basically there is a Colonial Marines detachment on Hadley's Hope for general colony defense, and a department of WY scientists there as well to "study" the planet while the processors do their work. It's revealed pretty early on that the scientists know about the derelict and they have a whole lab set up in a secret part of the colony along with an escape ship that only they know about. The book covers the infestation and the marines and colonists trying to fight back, which they are able to do with some success until the xenos start using the air ducts to abduct people and get more drones. The end of the book is basically their last stand(right before Newt escapes into the air ducts in the tie in comic book to ALIENS) and the marine captain who has found out about the escape ship is able to get himself, another marine, one of the scientists, and a young girl to the ship and they escape. They never really followed up on it which is kind of a shame.
Thank you for another video. May I just take 1 min of your time and THANK YOU for all the videos you have put up. I work outside and have earbuds and during my work I have gone through all your videos. They are so good and have given me so much joy, working and hearing all the stories. I wish you could actually start to read any books of the alien franchise etc with your voice. I BECAME a fan of the alien franchise because of YOU. Even though I saw the original movies when they came out. Many thanks from Mallorca/Spain.
I can relate to your comment so much-I listen in work too-work in optical lab-this stuff is gold.melts hours away like molecular acid some sort;) Rainy days,dull days,HANGOVER days-Depression days…man.so many times I’ve escaped this world leaving only my body running on autopilot behind.Sinking in to this amazing universe.Dublin outpost out🫡
I like how in Alien Isolation, we get to see how transponder signal on the detelict was turned off. In my eyes its definitely part of the cannon. Its a shame sega doesnt want to revisit a sequel.
I loved Amandas’ story, but I don’t want the sequel to detail her story, other than revealing what happened to her. I want a new game, similar mechanics, that does the same thing with Aliens. Whereby, despite your powerful weapons, you feel the need to hide from the creatures more often than engage in combat with them.
She must have been rescued because in the Aliens movie Ripley finds out she was in her 60's when she died, a few years before Ripley was picked up. Theres even a photo of her in the extended directors cut, so Amanda Ripley definitely made it back to Earth.
I wouldn't, some stories are best left untold. The reason Hadley's hope is so scary is because you don't know what happened and your imagination runs with it
There is a Dark Horse graphic novel, Newt’s Tale - which details the sequence of events from Newt’s parents face hugger-trip to the colonists last stand, to Newt’s escape & survival, before the Marines arrived. It would make an excellent Rogue One style movie or mini series, if they chose to reboot this entire franchise properly
You think so? I dig Hicks has a character. And Micheal Biehn played him to perfection. Thing is, if he didn’t make it out of the hive. Everything would have still played out the exact same way as it did. He listened to Ripley’s recommendations and did what she suggested. Leaving and nuking the spot. Going over the blueprints and pretty much instructing him and them on what to do. They would still have done everything they went over. Aside from shooting some “bugs”, All he did really was show her how to use the pulse rifle and did some welding. If anyone is the brilliant survivalist, it’s Newt.
@@user-om5or5bi1p Right?! Don’t get me wrong. I love everything about this movie. But Hicks is kind of irrelevant to what goes down. He’s just there for the ride.
@@chrisadams8182 Exactly! Not that they made Hicks a stupid character and he isn’t, but the story is following PTSD Ripley with the dilemma to sit back and do nothing or take charge and lead. Hicks was such an amazing character I wish they could had done a sequel with him and Ripley.
6:52: As a guy who works in medical billing, I couldn't help but notice the alphanumeric codes used in alongside the descriptions of Gorman's injuries. They're reminiscent of the real-life International Classification of Diseases (ICD) diagnosis codes typically listed on medical insurance claims to denote the treated condition(s). They don't exactly match to the real ones... the first one translates to the ICD-9 code for a fungal infection and the other two don't match up to any others, but the attempt to include such a detail was a nice touch.
1:43 I thought I had read in the novelisation that the signal stopped shortly after the crew returned to the Nostromo. Explaining why no one returned to it for over 50 years.
I love how Ripley was wrong about only to use flamers in the hive. If Vasquez and Drake hadn´t disobeyed those orders, every marine would have died inside. I think this is a good thing for the movie, to show that even badass characters can have flaws.
I think it was Gorman's idea to only use flamethrowers. After pointing out the danger from the armor-piercing rounds, Ripley wanted the Marines to withdraw.
What do you mean wrong? It was Vasquez and Drake shooting which causing the core to rupture which caused the explosion at the end. Yes Vasquez and Drake saved the marines but their shooting did results in the explosion which could have gone off sooner than later. Marines should have withdraw and swap to appropriate weapons then go back in.
Ripley had just cautioned Gorman about the marines being located beneath the heat exchangers. She was aware that if the creatures had taken refuge there, either for their increased metabolism due to warmth or tactical reasons, disabling the heat exchangers could trigger a dangerous thermonuclear chain reaction with catastrophic consequences. Ripley knew that if part of the cooling system were disabled, it could cause the fusion reactor to overheat and lose control, leading to the later resultant thermonuclear runaway reaction. Breaching the heat exchanger led to the reactor's energy output escalating to a level where it became akin to a hydrogen bomb, with a devastating release of energy and destruction.
According to the River of Pain novel, the Derelict was located in one of the only remaining unexplored areas, a highland plateau that had been mostly ignored by Wildcat prospectors because of the bad terrain surrounding it.
A detailed timeline from an AI is about as accurate as one can get. Bishop really didnt miss a dam thing! I love the perspective that this take of the events of Hadleys Hope brings out and highlights! Nice work on the vid!
A huge amount of work went into the editing here. The multiple cuts synchronising with the narration must have taken ages! It was all totally seamless, you can be very proud of this one AT, thank you.
Nice to see you back posting videos - I saw the community post about taking a break and wanted to thank you for the great channel. The Alien movies mean a lot to me and there is nothing like your channel out there that I have seen.
Sweet Jesus that was DOPE! I'LL NEVER watch Aliens the same way again, but damn you do good work. I kinda new how tits up things went on HH due to reading the novelization but wow
I wish they did a 10 part mini series of the last stand at Harleys Hope. Starts with Newts dad being brought back, and steadily more and more people go missing and the chaos ramps up until the final stand.
I don’t think enough people want to see that the problem with the alien franchise is the franchise is split into to many peices you have the people who love aliens and alien then there’s the alien fans that love the first and 3rd and then you got the aliens fans who aren’t a fan of everything that came after.
Another outstanding vid brother. Always interesting hearing about how much the company is aware(even if I knew) in a timeliness like this. Keep up the great work! You always have been the best and the definitive scoure for all Alien lore
Awesome background information I never knew about, or probably forgotten. Always appreciate your expertise and content. And I hope you’re personally doing well too.
Yo Alien Theory! Discovered your channel a few months ago and have been binging the hell outta your videos. Just wrapped up the Earth War arc, and man does your narration help. Was worried your channel was wrapping up after the lack of output lately. Anyway, glad for a new video and keep up the good work dude!
Seeing ALIENS at my local cinema next Wdnesday. Wih my son and a friend who is a big ALIEN fan. Can't wait. My first viewing of it at the cinema since 86.
I do not count "River of Pain" the book as canon. It tries to retcon the Space Jockey into an Engineer and it allows for survivors to make a getaway in a transport ship. Let me brutally clear to everyone here. Newt's Tale, a 90s comic by Dark Horse explained what happened. She was LITERALLY the only survivor. In my opinion, from a writing perspective, River of Pain cheapens the horror of what she went through and tries to marry Prometheus to Aliens.
One mistake... Pvt Frost didnt incenerarate the chest burster, Apone took frost's flamethrowerand the Sgt and cpl Dietrich burned it, leaving Frost to use his pistol
It bugs me that 'volcanic activity' was used as the reason the derelict stopped transmitting its warning... in Alien, they literally state that the surface "is rock, lava base. Deep cold, well below the line". Not tectonically active.
Another banger mate. Always excited when you drop new content on us. I truly do appreciate the work you put in for the universe we love, you keep us up to date and involved in the Alien/Xeno world and EU by providing outstanding content clearly created with love and talent. Cheers mate. 👍👏
I have been following many of your videos and am very glad to see that you are still doing them. Great work. I also hope to see this in a series starting with Hadley's Hope.
Wow it just came to me now, so if you think about it, Ripley was in a way, responsible for what happened at Hadley's hope by revealing the location of the derelict 😮
This was a pretty cool breakdown. I thoroughly enjoyed it. The dialogue from the characters even sounded in-character to the people involved. I always hated that stupid egg explanation of Alien 3. It was pretty damn clear Ripley torched damn near all the eggs. The queen would not have had the extra time or hands to carry the damned things. A much, MUCH easier solution would have been to explain that in an emergency nest evacuation, that Facehuggers would simply attach the Queen Herself. It could have even been argued simply that she had a way to feed nutrition to the Facehuggers attached to her. Then, shortly before she attacked Bishop, that the Facehuggers had simply detached and hidden themselves aboard the ship.
There is evidence of this at the end of Aliens, after the credits. You can faintly hear the skittering of Facehugger legs across the deck. It can be presumed that the Queen grabbed a couple of Facehuggers to assist her in capturing the creatures that destroyed her hive. When the Queen clambered onto the Dropship's undercarriage, she may have decided a new hive was needed and "commanded" these Facehuggers to hide, then attack when things were clear. After sensing the death of the Queen, they kept a low profile until things got quiet, then followed the human scent to the hyper-sleep chambers. If you just ignore the egg and assume they were a couple of carry-ons, its a fairly smooth start to the movie.
I never thought someone could make a channel that only focused on the Alien franchise but you did it. It was interesting to have Michael Biehn on too. He was in 2 of the best movies of all time and should have been a bigger star. Many actors with far less talent and screen presence went on to be big stars but he was left behind, what a shame.🤔
Not long after the events of Hadley’s hope and the visit by the Sephora, USCM sent another ship to ensure the thing was dead. USCM Col Caughey was selected to command the op ( primarily cause he didn’t have any direct connection to Weyland Yutani via stock or other means save for a retirement account he purchased 20 years ago upon reaching Lt rank). He opted to have the damaged Bishop unit rebuilt from Fury 161 after removing his uplink to WY. Bishop was not happy about this but realized it was necessary. After assembling his team they went there using a new Bougainville class dropship. After collecting all the data they could the team opted to nuke the 3 moons of the planet to ensure XX-121 was eliminated. Upon returning Col Caughey was promoted to general and put in charge of the extrasolar colony administration military arm. His orders are “ if it’s hostile then kill it, then kill the remains, then vaporize it to be sure it can’t hurt a colonist”
Man I just love the director’s cut of Aliens, but only after watching the original version of course. The fleshing out of the events is really great. Don’t get me wrong I think the theatrical cut is superior, imagining what happened to the colonists at the same time you’re watching the Marines go through the same thought process is pretty brilliant and establishes a better tone for the story. Great video as always!
Great video. My guess is the eggs from Alien 3 made it onto the ship when Bishop and Hicks were waiting for Ripley to find Newt. I would guess a drone Xenomorph did it sensing the impending destruction of the hive due to reactor meltdown. Or maybe at the direction of the Queen. A way to preserve the hive. Hicks was in and out of consciousness and Bishop was distracted by the chaos of the moment. It’s the only thing that makes sense to me.
Oh, so it actually was the drop ship crash that damaged the atmospheric processor? For all these years since Aliens came out, I thought it was the bullets used by the retreating soldiers that had damaged the processor. Interesting.
