A compilation of the various Weyouns' deaths throughout Deep Space Nine. Sources are the episodes "To the Death", "Treachery, Faith and the Great River", "Strange Bedfellows" and "What You Leave Behind". All footage is owned by CBS.
I love how both Weyoun 6 and Weyoun 7 both know that Damar is responsible for the "accident" and have a moment of shared annoyance at him for the death of their past selves.
Or at least _believe_ it was treachery. Such suspicion is in their nature. Keeping that in mind, it _is_ entirely possible #5 was killed by an accident.
There was an episode where some dude built a machine that was supposed to make you live longer if you rest in it, and the guy working on it said that people are trying to get him and his associates were killed in "shuttle accidents", which he doubted were accidents. Weyoun met that guy and tested the machine at the end of the episode. Then that same Weyoun died in a mysterious shuttle accident. I think this is all a nod to that, meaning that the crazy tinfoil hat scientist was actually right about his conspiracy theory.
@@nothri The phrase "Frienemies" comes to mind. 😏 Still, let's face it; even if it were really an accident, and unambiguously so, there is _nothing_ that could have kept the Weyouns from suspecting treachery. That is a core element of their personalities.
the thing is he wanted to serve the founders still he just thought their fear made them irrational and that they would get themselfs wiped out and if you look foward he wasen't wrong the founders nearly got themselfs fully exterminated and also nearly destroyed the dominon because of their desire for control out of fear
Hard to say, they're not really allowed personalities or lives outside their service. The founders didn't even give them the ability to enjoy arts are varied tastes in foods in their so called "elevation"
Him being chill is what made him so frightening, like when he's nonchalantly talking to Dukat about eliminating every last person on Earth because that's where the resistance will start without even giving it a second thought.
The Founder's remark when the last Weyoun is killed sounds like Garak had just smashed an old valued family heirloom rather then killing a fellow sentinel being.
Everyone in the Dominion treats Weyoun like Kleenex. When the Cardassians drag him out of the room, I half expected them to just dump him in a corner and throw a towel over his corpse or something 😆
Well yeah, why not? Changelings barely consider any solid life form worth their respect - let alone the Vorta, who are deliberately designed to have all the dependence of a neurotic pet. You would be hardpressed to respect something that was practically designed to be contemptible.
@@LM-xw7ii Yeah, Changelings regard all solid life forms with contempt just because of what some long dead solids did to them thousands of years ago. They also see the Vorta and Jem'Hadar as having the potential to plot against them which is why they programmed the Vorta to be sycophants and made the Jem'Hadar drug addicts plus they made them dislike each other. The only Changeling that I care about is Odo, the rest of them are disgraceful creatures who have allowed fear of Solids and some bad experiences with Solids turn them into the monsters the ancient solids claimed that they were. I feel bad for Odo that he has to live with the fact that his people are like that.
@@girlgarde I personally doubt the whole “Hunted by Solids” line that we get. Considering the only source we have are questionable at best. My personal theory is that the Changelings were always jerks, and historically tried to infiltrate societies to overthrow them, so they could take over. But back then they didn’t have the Jem’Hadar to act as muscle or Vorta to be administrators. So the early attempts failed big time.
They actually retconned the "cloning" gimmick as a way to keep him busy and away from the snacks after the fifth failed attempt to explain his character had been killed off.
We’re not _fooled,_ you obvious Borg scam bots. Nobody real is _actually_ called “Andrew”, that’s the fakest name ever, and we’re _not interested in joining the collective!_ If I have to tell _one more_ well dressed drone that yes I’ve heard the “good news”, I swear I’m gonna flip my lid.
@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated we are more of a cabal made up of those named Andrew, Andrea and any other similar sounding name. And yes, there are cybernetics involved, but that's a whole other thing. Oh, and it's already too late, we are already in control. But thanks for noticing our style, we do put a lot of effort in, and it's nice for it to be recognized, even though we don't want you to recognize us. We are complicated.
The best part of that death was the next scene, when the newly cloned Weyoun 8 comes to meet Damar for the first time, and Damar jovially exclaims "well helloooo" and "maybe you should talk to Worf again!"
He got his BLESSING! That Weyoun probably died the happiest out of any Vorta. I had forgotten how much the "By Grabthar's Hammer" scene from _Galaxy Quest_ feels so much like this one: both extremely moving to see a cynical security officer comfort a pure hearted alien with a dying benediction they don't actually believe but know how much it means to them.
The way Weyoun 6 finds absolute contentment and peace with his death once Odo gives him his blessing is beautiful and sad. It just shows how the Vorta are trapped in the state of a child that just wants to impress and please their parents but are typically treated with contempt by the Founders; he finally finds his ultimate sense of accomplishment with Odo in that scene.
I don't like how the Founders treat the Vorta and the Jem'Hadar with contempt. Sure, they're blindly loyal to them and come across as sycophants but the Founders made them that way and serve them well so the Founders shouldn't get mad at them for being what they were programmed to be.
Yes, it's a problem they can't really escape. The Founders really did create them in a meaningful way. Yes, the Vorta are effectively slaves to the Founders, but isn't that what gods do? His experience with Weyoun 6 is very important to Odo's character development. He's deeply troubled by being worshipped, and by Weyoun 6's death. The scene later where Kira shows an understanding of it, that Weyoun 6's faith in the Founders and in Odo specifically was enough for him to die peacefully.
I absolutely love the female changeling's response. "I wish you hadn't done that." Such a British response, it almost feels like comedy to me as an Englishman.
enemy defects are too cliche in the star trek universe, it was done in TNG, and TOS, the writers would rather have it to where all help for the coalition was received by their own people, not outside assistance (other than damar, but he had his genuine reasons)
Weyoun is still one of my favorite bad guy, henchmen. He could be funny and incredibly creepy all at the same time. Let share a round of heavily poisoned Kanar in his honor...and then not drink, it is poisoned after all.
I love the implication that Damar arranged Weyoun 5's death, and seemingly for no constructive reason... he simply disliked him that much. I like to think he did it for himself on his birthday after drinking a little too much kanar.
I'm hoping to see on Star Trek Lower decks the Cerritos find a bedraggled but alive Weyoun 3 surviving on a moon somewhere, thought long dead. Having missed the war.
"Oh, thank the Founders, you've saved me! So, catch me up on current events. Did anything ever come of that wormhole that started spewing unapproved solids into Dominion space?"
Except the post-DS9 novels pointed out... Weyouns 1-5 came from a Gamma Quadrant lab. The Federation & its allies never reached Dominion space there... There will be Weyouns 9, 10, 11...
@@varianschirmer9375 iirc they moved his genetic material to cardassia and it was destroyed during the battle, besides the founder sounds genuinely disappointed at losing the only vorta she remotely trusted
On that last one, you would think that he would have thought first "hmmm, I'm the last of my line, maybe now WOULDN'T be a good time to insult the angry people pointing weapons at me" lol😂🤣😅😁🤔
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 Are you sure about that? One way the Founders eliminate other intelligent life forms is by regulating their Species into extinction. Elsewhere around here, someone compared the Vorta to bananas. What about corn, or cows as well? In the past, such life forms existed on their own, feral. But along came humans, a more advanced life form who impose order on nature for their own advantage. Humans decided they wanted to keep such creatures around, and working for them. But today, Banana trees, and. Seedless Oranges, Corn, and other living species have been crafted to serve people first, and foremost, AND couldn't continue without human support. Good bet the Vorta are "Functionally Extinct", with their species now consisting of only a few dozen or less genetic templates?
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 Actually, I don't think I answered your question in my last reply. The Dominion may have Weyoun's genetic templates on file, but there is no guarantee they will generate any more. 😞 I've wondered if they had subjugated the Federation, would the Founders over time replaced the Vorta with Betazoids? The Founders don't really respect their subjects, no matter how loyal and how close to them. If Betazoids were better, or could be altered to be better than the Vorta, would the Vorta have been discontinued like the Oldsmobile, and their numbers slowly diminished down to zero, in a few Centuries?
I see a "Weyoun Dies" compilation, I click on it for "there's only one Damar" and "I was hoping you'd say that", yet I leave thoroughly moved. How dare you, show. How dare you.
5:38......I only just noticed, the look the Founder gives Weyoun here after his derisive comment. That's the look of someone thinking 'You shouldn't have said that.......'
Weyoun 1 sank into the swamp. So they cloned another one. Weyoung 2 sank into the swamp. So they cloned a third. Weyoun 3 burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But Weyoun 4 stayed up!
I really like that interaction with the founder: “Founder, perhaps we should consider moving you to a safer location” “And just where would that be?” Like lol weyoun we’re surrounded
@@keithallver2450 I admit Shran was also a great character, but I still consider Weyoun to be his best. Shran was brash and straightforward, but complex enough in his sense of honor. Weyoun was far more complex in his subtle manner and manipulative tactics. I believe it would have taken him far more effort to play Weyoun.
@@dangingerich2559 Let's not forget Herbert West. Combs was already a long time horror movie veteran by this point so he had plenty of time to master his craft.
@@azuretiger-kfpmarketingstr6018 I was never a big fan of the Reanimator movies, or most horror movies, but I'd say his performance of that character looks pretty good, from what I did see of it. I was just saying Weyoun is my favorite. it doesn't mean it should be yours. To each their own.
3:15 one of the most touching and sincere moments in the entire series. DS9 has the best character development and story lines by far! None of the other series even came close. Hell I even found myself being sympathetic toward the dominion at times. Feeling bad for the Jem’hadar. Loving the vorta race and even cheering for the cardassians. In TNG I fully supported the romulans and found the Vulcans to be the bad guys. DS9 even validated my feelings about the Vulcans when they made a Vulcan serial killer who used pure logic to murder random ppl
I love how Jeffrey is playing the same character but with each different version he brings something new with little quirks that lets you know it’s a different Weyoun
@@Vhailor_Mithras He may have hoped that a different Vorta would be assigned to the position. At the very least, having a new Weyoun tended to shift the power dynamic in his favour, if only temporarily.
When weyoun 6 committed suicide, this was in season 7. Odo had become a changeling again. I can’t remember the whole episode but if Weyoun 6 hadn’t killed himself, it seems like Weyoun 7 could have been executed himself if the Jem’Hadar had actually destroyed the ship that Odo was on.
Odo and weyun were in the ship together for hours alone and all he found out from the one person who knew the most about the dominions war plan, was something they already knew (but not any details about it) and the vortas favourite food. WTF odo
Ah, Garak. Murdering an unarmed prisoner because he annoyed you. That whole Federation Root Beer thing hasn't quite worked yet has it? Losing 3 Weyouns in one year is just careless.
That Weyoun had just made a joke of the murder of millions of Cardassians and the destruction of its cities. I think we can give Garak a break on that killing.
One of the things I've always appreciated about Salome Jens' delivery as the Founder was how rarely she lost her cool, or was even remotely uncivil to her enemies. Kira and Garak have her cornered and when Garak kills Weyoun, she just calmly, but with genuine regret, says, "I wish you hadn't done that." As another commenter points out, it reinforces that she thinks of Weyoun more as property than person, but the regret in her voice is still real.
... And speaking of the Weyoun character, I was wondering if you could upload the scene where Jake tries to interview him. I always thought the Weyoun was particularly charming in that scene.
I literally bumped into Jeff Combs at Destination Star Trek in Birmingham in 2018. He was walking around the NEC hall and we collided. I apologised and so did he. I realised who he was and all I could think to say was “Hope you’re having a great day.” He said he was and hoped the same for me. I shook his hand and off we went. But hearing his voice, so similar to Weyouns, in my own ears, in person so to speak…..that was VERY cool. And he was very friendly too. About an hour or so later, I had a photo shoot with Andrew Robinson who played Garak. And if he wasn’t even friendlier!!! Super enthusiastic and happy to meet everyone. So I met “Weyoun” and “Garak” all in one day (amongst others) and it was a GOOD day. 😁
How about this for am answer to such a question; Do you really want to know? 🤔 The only way to find out would be to get even more involved with the Dominion.
I assume it wasn't exactly *perfect*, maybe weekly memory backups, with any additional information manually provided as needed once each clone was activated
I was hoping the video would include that scene where Damar taunts Weyoun 8, saying, "maybe you should talk to Worf again!" Very entertaining, nonetheless!
Vorta are stated to have an immunity to poisons, and considering the way they generally behave to others, you have to wonder how many Vorta they went through before the Founders thought it prudent to add that to their genetic template.
@@darthplagueis4626 Considering he specifically destroyed the cloning facility that's used to replace Weyoun... I'd say that transporter incident was clearly just an accident
When weyoun was looking over at Damar after he mentioned they never did an investigation or found out who operated the controls, it pretty much told me who did it. Damar mentioned there was no foul play 😆 Im sure there wasn't after weyoun 5 was dematerializing. Damar: Whoops 😆😂! I laughed my head off 😂
@@InfernosReaper That was later, after he had started the Cardassian Rebellion. Damar being responsible for the transporter accident makes sense, not only because of his hatred of Weyoun 5, but also because it took out a single person in less traceable manner. Damar was likely interested in getting rid of Weyoun 5 specifically, not necessarily the whole line. He may have even hoped that a different Vorta would be assigned to take Weyoun's place. In any case, at the time, he still was rooting for the Dominion (and by extension, Cardassia) to win the war, so he wouldn't have sought to destroy an entire facility to eliminate one person, especially since such an action could be traced back to him. After he rebelled, he didn't have those limitations.