Whaley Bridge dam collapse: 'No shortage of funds' - BBC Newsnight 

I think you mean "irrespective of the reasons".

@@sonacphotos Yeah - only far-right websites tell you the truth.

TV reporters expect people to have a Crystal Ball.

I just want to smack the stupid bitch, tell her to fuck off.

@@tipi5586 hahaha..excellent..too funny and spot on

She's a monster

If it does burst lets hope it washes her away.

She is as thick as the dam.....😁

Do you not understand the British sense of humour ?

Welcome to the BBC, they're all like that. It's like they exist now only to unfairly criticise everyone and everything in pursuit of their disgusting editorial bias. Nevermind adversarial politics - we now have adversarial media. I wish someone would abolish the TV license and make the BBC have to live in the real world and pay their own way - I'm sick and tired of being forced to pay for them.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1326589/Brothel-baron-Ian-Barnett-6m-faces-losing-fortune.html

@@politicaltechnology6786 I note the surname. So is Emma the daughter or some kind of relative then?

@@stephenbagshaw4078 that's right this is her parents as far as i am aware.

Mo_the_Merrier - What a load of BULL$#!T - RICHARD PARRY gave as excuses regarding inspections,... anyone who has a brain in their head with eyes,... can see that PRIOR to the failure, the concrete EMERGENCY SLIP-WAY for overspill - HAD GREEN VEGITATION - growing out of it in many AREAS,... especially at the location of the failure. - - this indicates the concrete had been compromised and that the COMPACTED EARTH below it had erroded away due to WATER INGRESS... !!! . IF THEY ARE DOING YEARLY TESTS ,... THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE SONAR IMAGES OF THESE CRITICAL AREAS. !!!. . Both he and the 'minister' were full of blah, blah, blah sound bites - CORPORATE - save your a$$ BULL$#!T . .

@@politicaltechnology6786 If that's the case, then it would appear that nastiness just runs in the family.

Expert where? I just saw some company Charlie.

The sort of person who you can give the most amazing new invention to use and if it stops working for a few minutes she starts having a fit. Even though she herself can barely turn a tap on and off.

Mn B you just gonna copy and paste that everywhere ?

@@BavonWW An expert who works for a non-profit and takes government funds?

@@BavonWW Exactly.....he didn't want to reply to a nasty antagonist. The only way to win against those types is to shut the fuck up.

Its the BBC with their normal hostile interview style.

Yes, very rude and just try to argue for the sake of arguing!

This is an issue with reservoir maintenance and not the bull shit flood defence they keep trying to push so the women was right to argue. I guess you just believe everything the government says.

@@kmwindowcleaner Except the man doesn't actually work for the government, sorry.

@@MsVanorak So you feel threatened by strong women? When did your parents first catch you killing cats and rabbits. Hmm, I see. So have you ever been alone with a woman other than your mother? Hmm, ah ha. Do you think the Earth is flat? I see. So the wriggling skull-crack vibratories are inside your head controlling hour brain? And so on ......

PJM *in annoying accent*

Stupid presenter.

@Forsaken Pumpkin Listen Pumpkin mutha, come sit on this!

Forsaken Pumpkin she said the town was thriving yet only about 6,000 ppl live there and the ppl who do live there would obviously benefit from being forced out into somewhere bigger like London or something cuz no one wants to live in a town no ones heard of

@@mrrumpledumple2132 it's actually a very nice place,nice than the polluted London

@@mrrumpledumple2132 And how would people benefit from being possibly homeless for a few days,maybe weeks?

@@mrrumpledumple2132 So true. 6000 and thriving 😂😂😂. Oxymoron.

@@gen21617 I'm not entirely certain but if you mean the interviewer and not the interviewee then I believe we are in disagreement as it was quite clear she failed to uphold an unbiased interview manner or even do the appropriate research to back her claims. It should have been clear from the situation that it would have been more appropriate to focus on the flood emergency angle of the story and leave the accusations of negligence until after the situation has been resolved.

@@ostrichcat299 Yes, sorry, my reply wasn't intended for your comment.

Hit the nail on the head👍🏼

Ostrich Cat - What a load of BULL$#!T - RICHARD PARRY gave as excuses regarding inspections,... anyone who has a brain in their head with eyes,... can see that PRIOR to the failure, the concrete EMERGENCY SLIP-WAY for overspill - HAD GREEN VEGITATION - growing out of it in many AREAS,... especially at the location of the failure. - - this indicates the concrete had been compromised and that the COMPACTED EARTH below it had erroded away due to WATER INGRESS... !!! . IF THEY ARE DOING YEARLY TESTS ,... THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE SONAR IMAGES OF THESE CRITICAL AREAS. !!!. . Both he and the 'minister' were full of blah, blah, blah sound bites - CORPORATE - save your a$$ BULL$#!T . .

grumpy metalguy If only scientists had warned us for 30 years about the likelihood of extreme weather including rainfall, and if only it were available to everyone publically. Oh wait..

@@Jordan-uz9me do these public records give spacific times dates acurate measurements oh wait.....no if we have arctic conditions in mid november are you prepared or are you prepared for the heatwave in 20 years time.....no your not bit of a pointless point your making really

If only there was someone employed to work on the damn and maybe keep an eye on it's rigidity daily.. things like this don't just happen, prevention is better than cure.

@@hindsonracing That I'm sure used to happen, but in this cost cutting world in which we live in, where we all, (including myself) want something as cheap as possible, the people that used to do that have been binned off. The rail lines used to have teams that inspected the tracks regularly and highlighted issues and they would have been timetabled in for repair or emergency repairs down if it warranted it. Pity really.

Ho ho

Hammer, meet nailhead. Absolutely bang on my friend. This is exactly what is going on. Along with a level of political bias that would make the most partisan, greedy and dishonest lobbiest blush. Kind of astonishing that most people in the UK still get the lions share of thier news and form a great many of thier views from and after watching such horseshit as put out hourly by the BBC. Incredibly many of them actually in all seriousness assume or suppose they are knowledgeable and clued up. Or the equal of any other educated, reasonable adult. Of course nothing will change, certainly for the better at any rate, until people actually start to realise and begin to do something about it. Personally I can't quite understand why anyone would want a TV and pay for a licence. Especially given the shite and idiotic nonsense constantly on. I suppose I can partially understand someone who is particularly into Sports. But then I would have assumed a subscription service would only be slightly more expensive and be far superior.

The news nowadays seems to be less about informing and more about political theatre, even in issues like these which are not political at all. I got a sense of Kathy Newman's style of interviewing (if not all of Channel 4) here, being somewhat argumentative for no particular reason. Journalists should ask tough questions, but constantly cutting in with poorly informed inflamatory comments is disrespectful and annoying. The interviewer then changes tack with her questioning completely and starts being angry at the other guy. Nothing constructive came out of this interview at all.

Yes agree with others this woman is a complete idiot and I am not even listening to the whole interview nor will I be listening to her again

Because the BBC keeps trying to copy US news media. It thinks making its news adversarial and its 'journalists' hostile is "sexy". We all just think it's bloody disgusting. Abolish the TV license and see how quickly the BBC starts losing money when we're no longer forced to pay for their shit.

Not like the government would be able to answer any questions about it anyway. No clue why they need to interview a politician when this is probably the first time they have probably heard of the dam in the first place.

How many MPs know what a Dam is ?

@@pqrstzxerty1296 No clue XD it's just they said they tried to get someone to speak from the government

Google It Probably the first time they've heard of the place...let alone the dam

Sigma Yes I really do wander what the hell is going on with this.

Can we get a less bigoted class of posters?

She must think shes scoring some points with certain types of plebs that watch this drivel

The BBC probably pay her a fortune too

I would welcome her to a social gathering when i could tell her what a horrid person she is

At last. someone who knows about the erosive effect of water on concrete and bitumen. If the gaps are not sealed, the water erodes the sand underneath the concrete until there is a huge hole, then it collapses. Just like our roads.

This seems the most likely explanation, which is why is was fair to probe on the 'so why did your inspection say it OK if it broke when used. When did the spillway last get used?

Not enough stone under the concrete and too much water allowed to go down spillway the rising resovoir water should have been released earlier into peak forest canal feeder and as that rose up the overflow on the Marple aqueduct four miles down the cut would have fallen into the river below and out to sea CRT quick response management does not exist the same as it did under BWB to much relying on unpaid volunteers they don't even paint the tops of the lock gates ends of balence beams white so can be seen at night

@@markjones4704 can you post this again, in a more open post. There seem to be a lot of people just complaining about the interviewer above. Thanks for the info. Very helpfu. ☺️

Bleached hair.

The glasses, pen and notes are all props to make her appear intelligent.... but that's until she opens her mouth and we are left just want to punch her in it.. God almighty, I believe I have never hated a reporter as much as this awful woman.

@@dawn5227 what a simpleton i totally agree, they just looking to blame someone.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

Seems to adopt the same condescending tone and style of the Anne Robinson school of interviewing.

I remember the days when interviewers used to let their guests answer in full. They want to be the centre of attention now. Perhaps BBC presenters should be in charge of running the country.

Well, it is a combination of the two. The Georgian Era dam was in need of refurbishment, but had it not been for all the rain, I doubt they would have needed to hurry.

Yes, climate change won't go away by blaming people.

The very nature of news mouthpieces that suddenly care for their audiences.

I congratulate the Conservative minister for refusing to appear on the BBC. Ban the license fee!

Hey Juan, welcome to the BBC.

Just looking to blame someone - standard practice of the leftwing BBC

What she needs to point out AND say it is that alot of people in the UK do NOT WORK, and get money for doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, not paying TAXES at all.... for YEARS and YEARS. That is the problem why funding is low on our NHS, Education , Road Maintenance and many many others ! Nobody talks about that one !

@@officialszabobeatz What a load OF salad you WRITE. That argument is AS old as mETHUSELAH, and really QUITE wrong, just like your typographic style. Do you actually pay taxes as well as pay for your licence fee?

SzaboBeatz HD - even if your comment wasn’t total bollocks, what the fuck does it have to do with the issue at hand here?

I was wondering why there was a dam there to begin with. Thanks for the info

Do you think the water flowed over the spillway because the sluices were not opened? If so that is very important. Did the CRT know when water started to flow over the spillway so the could monitor it?

Good blog, puts things into perspective, could have been a disaster if it was not reported by the local Vicar. As for checking a dame only once every ten years is rediculass, the potential for loss of life if a dame crumbles is obvious.

You are completely right. The water authorities should never have been privatised, there is too much infrastructure in them that needs investment to be able to pay out to shareholders.

@@johnsmythe7940 checked every year.. with a 10 year independant check..

You sound like one of those people who watch just to be offended, and get upset when it doesn't happen.

@@epiendless1128 Nice! Thanks for shining a light in the dark basement of the BBC detractors. 6th

He didn't get to answer many questions with her.

I dont think they answered the questions correctly. First they said they get plenty of funding but only maintenance check every ten years when the dam is almost 100 years old. The largest dam the three gorges dam in china is checked more than once every year and the Hoover dam is checked every year but its okay to only check a dam 100 old every 10 year.

fenrif ....an the ten year check was done within the last year.

Also to add on, the part that failed was not part of the original build. It was added on later. One idea I've seen floating a out is the overflow damage, when lots of water flows over the top it can cause damage as the dam is not intended to have that much flow for that long over the top. Not too long ago the village was worried about the water drying up. I'd put this down to unexpected weather rather than neglect.

@fenrif Good point, except for the fact that I posted the bull's eye message. "Eyes closed" eh?

I refuse to watch or listen to anything the biased BBC has to say. Seriously considering like an ever growing millions of others not paying for tv licence, but mrs likes ITV so cant.

Ha ha Rick. Made us laugh lol

Babe? No amount of extra funding would make her a babe....lol

@Truth Be’Told any port in a storm....lol

@Truth Be’Told When did your eyes start giving you trouble ? lol

@@xxwookey You sound like an expert in the construction of dams..... I bet you're not - just some armchair commentator who's expert after the event... How about going up there and lending a hand...???

@@jimgoodwin6294 Glad I sound like an expert - I do my best to actually know what I am talking about. But no, I have no professional expertise beyond an engineering+computer science degree. I got most of my knowledge of spillway design and failure modes from following the Oroville incident for 3 years on the blancolirio channel. It is true that having small trees/shrubs growing in the cracks of your spillway indicates that it may not be entirely waterproof. Not being sufficiently waterprooof is the most likely reason for the undermining failure it has suffered. I live 130 miles away so there are better people to help - who appear to be doing a reasonable job.

@@xxwookey You can tell you're not an expert - you're just full of crap....... WTF has a degree in computer science got to do with this? Nothing..........

@@jimgoodwin6294 You're the one who called me an expert. The computer science is indeed irrelevant, but the engineering isn't. But if I'd said 'I have an engineering degree' that wouldn't have been strictly accurate. I think it's important to avoid misleading people. What exactly is your problem with what I said originally? It wasn't intended to be contentious. Why not argue about the actual issue, rather than try to insult me?

@@xxwookey By coincidence, so have I......

Exactly that!😂

So unprofessional behaviour. Where is she from. The slums? As you have it?🤨

Would you make the same statement if people were killed by the flooding if the dam had burst? I don't think so.

You don't need to be a civil engineer to observe that this spillway failed when used, despite the inspection regime. Either the spillway was in fact defective (the size of vegetation suggests so) or the flow was beyond the design parameters. Possibly both.

Please no never get any sleep bitch be still been a bitch and talking bollocks lol

Maybe it's the opposite situation, she's so uptight she needs to get laid

Looks to be Buddleia and we know how good that is at breaking through brickwork. Water has got through the concrete slabs, maybe during the latest bad overspill and washed away the earth underneath. If similar bad overflows have happened since it was last resurfaced (1971?) it has gradually got to the point where the concrete cannot support itself. It may seem odd to recommend watching an Americans view of this issue but view this. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Zm_MMRA9Szk.html Juan gave very impressive coverage with no BS of the major spillway failure of the Oroville dam in California. That turned into a very expensive repair job. Much larger scale but the issues are the same. Worth looking at as it will allow you to understand the problems facing us here at Whaley Bridge. Start here and carry on with the follow-ups. Needs patience as there is a lot of them but worthwhile. Also shows how high tech the repairs might need to be. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yF4FtafLIL4.html

Found that quite funny, much like Corbyns been hacked to become a Remoaner.

Total rubbish.....

In the usual pursuit of 'saving money', the Tory government removed the British Waterways Board from the public sector. It became the Canal and River Trust - a not-for-profit company - in effect a charity. As a result, there are no shareholders to pay so no money is being wasted there. The government knew what it was doing; it was able to free itself of an unwanted financial burden. It is reasonable to assume that the Canal and River Trust is not awash with money. No doubt difficut decisions have to be made from time to time.

@@uk-martin4905 Again, total rubbish - Perhaps if the last labour government hadn't pissed all the countries money up the wall, mortgaged the NHS or started an illegal war we'd be in a better situation. .......

@@jimgoodwin6294 You really do not want to know what goes on in the private sector. Yeah there are the Environment Agency and the Drinking Water Inspectorate, but they are ill placed to do much because the water companies test both drinking water and effluent, not too many exceedances reported me thinks. Oh and the samples that are sent in to test that the labs get the right results, they are marked as just that.

@@439bananas blah blah bollocks.......

Let alone the Lego itself, she would call a plumber to open the Box the Lego comes in!

Be fair the female in the piece is just a talking head and does not claim to be an engineer.

Then she shouldn't assume to be capable of pretty rudely excoriating a guest. Someone who DOES know what the fuck he's talking about. At one time it was not like this. They either at least had a clue, did some homework, or asked the expert questions in order to actually receive an answer. Do a search for some old news footage, even by the BBC and see how it used to be done. Certainly not perfect, but with an honesty and integrity that would be a strange animal these days. To be fair. I think you are delusional. How the hell do you possibly assume this was in any way shape or form a reasonable interview, or a way to conduct a reasonable interview. Getting clueless, ill educated idiotic women on as serious presenters of such headline programs does nothing to further understanding or give explanation. It is about sensationalising EVERYTHING and attempting to spin up some drama. It most certainly is not edifying. And it most certainly is NOT news. Or should not be. But hey, here we are. I suppose it is simply due to it being the current year.

@@AJ-wm5sz Your'e asking the Faragists to be fair, to use logic? Good luck with that.

@@martingrundy5475 👌

to bad that if you put all those local weathers together it is THE CLIMATE !!!!!!!

Geoengineeringwatch.org

And give everyone their boats back!

He hired a head of asset strategy. Years on no one has seen the asset strategy or knows what it is.

The destruction of the artificial construct known as the United Kingdom is definitely salacious. That it comes about as a result of a Tory civil war, and the stagnant DUP, adds a chocolate flake to the Brexit ice-cream. 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

@@BatTaz19 - To be perfectly honest if getting brexit means the break up of the union then so be it... Wales,Scotland and N Ireland are just chains around Englands feet :)

He's a legend mate.

daryl H brexit *cough*

daryl H LOL

@daryl H ~ Not sure how a shipping container of butt plugs from the EU is supposed to stop the dam from breeching, but it’s the thought that counts?

@@zbudda ... the Rump probably has some gold-plated he'll send to Boris

@daryl H ~ The left already have a Trump doll butt plug, that they sell on amazon to Democrat supporters to protest Trump. I’m not sure they get how memes work? 😂🔥

What problem do you have with this vid

@@randomsonic5929 Rob probably buys into the BS narrative that the BBC is biased in some way. It is usually a line taken by the Brexiters.