Wharfedale Diamond 12.2 review (with Klipsch RP600M, B&W 607 S2, Monitor Bronze 100 comparo)

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@carlosbauza1139 3 года назад

So, the Wharfedale has a definite character! It is well balanced!

@jarnojokiharju2589 3 года назад

Hi Steve (and everyone else following this amazing channel)! I would love to hear a bit more about how the 12.2s compare with the Bronze 100s. I'm torn between the two (in my region 12.2s go for €375 - Bronze 100s for €450), and no place to directly compare them here up North at the Arctic Circle. :) Thanks and keep up the fine work, sir!

@dwymer86 3 года назад

My first "big boy" speakers were the diamond 8s some 18 years ago. Ran those for 6 or 7 years, they were a decent introduction to higher- end audio.

@WHo-vf1oz 2 года назад

Posted this on another channel hope it helps folks out: i just bought a 12.2 and love it! Thats a huge compliment as my current stable has Kef LS50, Focal chora 816, sonus faber cremona auditor. All at far higher price points. I bought it because it can give me something my other speakers cannot. A warm and relaxed sound that is tonally well balanced and not too exagerated. Sure it can’t match the accuracy and speed of my other speakers but the warm sound can keep me in bliss and listen far longer (and fall asleep on the sofa). What suprised me the most is that the sacrifices in speed, accuracy and top end air is fairly small so am really pleasantly suprised how good budget speakers are these days!.

@hector7878 2 года назад

Hi !! May I ask you with what amp you have paired the 12.2 , Im thinking to buy a pair and use them with a NAD 356bee , just not sure if would be enough power to make them sing , do you think could be a good match ?

@WHo-vf1oz 2 года назад

@@hector7878 of the bunch 12.2 its not a difficult speaker to drive but will take on some of the characteristics of your amp i have no experience with NAD

@hector7878 2 года назад

@@WHo-vf1oz okey good , thank you for respond me 😉

@myself61607 3 года назад

By coincidence I listened yesterday to John Darko’s interview with the designer of these speakers. 2020 celebrated one hundred years of recorded blues music without which I probably would not have been an audiophile.

@joriszsz95 3 года назад

I had the 11.2. I found the sound really warm and sweet. Made me want to listen to them all day. However, they were really hard to place in my room, but not sure if it was the speaker or my room ;). Probably both.

@odwatchguy 3 года назад

Thanks for the great review and comparison to some really nice speakers. I am getting back into audio after years away and this is exactly what I was looking for.

@thetravelingkites 3 года назад

Me too, Tony. What other components are you considering? I am looking into new receiver and speakers to start.

@odwatchguy 3 года назад

@@thetravelingkites My brother in law knew that I was missing sounds and gave me his Denon AVR X1200W when he upgraded. My Old system was based around Cornwall ll's and all separates.

@thetravelingkites 3 года назад

@@odwatchguy Nice. I had a Technics system. The only piece that I still have is a pair of Sound Dynamics 12S speakers, stored in my shed for now. I got them out this year to see if they still worked and they were great! I think that is the moment that sparked my interest to get back into it. Thanks for your reply.

@odwatchguy 3 года назад

@@thetravelingkites At 65 my hearing can't discern near what this level has to offer. Too many times at the front of live rock concerts.

@thetravelingkites 3 года назад

@@odwatchguy Yes. Me too. 62 years with concerts and 15 years in a steel mill. Wish I could filter out the ringing. 🤨

@smokeyrivers 2 года назад

I have a pair of 12.2s, Elac Debut 2.0 6.2's on the cheaper flank, and a pair of Polk R200's on the higher end all lined up in my listening room right now. The clock is ticking on which ones to keep vs. return. When I am almost ready to send back the Wharfedales, I hear a track with which these speakers truly shine. Percussion. Synth. Acoustic Guitar. Piano. Bass. Male Voices. It comes down to this for me: It's a very special speaker for rhythmic music, country music and male acoustic music. It excels at reproducing TV and soundtracks. Not airy enough on the high end for jazz or classical for my tastes. It sounds "limited" in the 8k+ range, in the electronic sense. But when bombs are dropping or Law And Order is going "duh-dung", the 12.2s are in their zone. I think I'll keep them.

@foolgold9464 Год назад

Thank you very much! I have been considering your short list and you have helped me out here!

@CM-dw3gh Год назад

@@foolgold9464 did you get the 12.2's? Alpha audio wrote a really poor account on them about distortion at not very high db's.put me off a bit

@Darrylizer1 3 года назад

Good review as usual Steve. Here's to 2021! I have to say the Joe The Cop episode was pretty amazing. Wow what a system!

@Gnofg 3 года назад

If you listen to much youtube music FX sound is a subscription service that uncompresses the youtube music. I tested all the different sound enhancers out there and this was the best. I had a lifetime license but I moved to the subscription version. Light processing is the best setting. As most of you know there is no better service than youtube for "live" recordings. I have been to at least 250 concerts dating back to 1966. I saw almost everyone. I saw Cream I passed up "Band of Gypsy's at the Fillmore East. due to a snowstorm on New Year's day in NYC. I was at the closing weekend at the Fillmore with the Allman's and I saw Led Zeppelin's second tour of the U.S at the Singer Bowl. To me live music is the magic.

@donaldchamble6897 3 года назад

Happy holidays Steve and Ms gutenberg

@maestro0428 3 года назад

Another day, another video! Thanks Steve!

@RP-ms7lu 11 месяцев назад

I view and listen your video very carefully before buying. Wharfedale 12.2 is on my list for better female vocal.

@cainwilks 10 месяцев назад

Just bought them, so disappointed in sound quality. Forget these if you want anything other than bass.

@RP-ms7lu 10 месяцев назад

@@cainwilks thank you. I have not purchase them after my audio dealer advise against this. He suggested polk Reserve r200 for clear ,full and musical sound with nice female vocals.

@RP-ms7lu 10 месяцев назад

@@cainwilks quickly return or sell them immediately. I think q acoustic concept 20, kef150 are better. I think you should consider polk reserve r200. Polk has cleanest and musical sound.

@geraldoram2453 Год назад

Would like to know people’s preferences of these and the Dali Spektor 2s.

@philiplavios726 3 года назад

Wharfdale 12.2 are fantastic speakers for the price!

@akoolkatadirtybirdn1hihat534 3 года назад

You really like em? Are they close to the old diamond 225 signature? Not wanting to go the klipsch route this time.

@AbsoluteFidelity 3 года назад

@@akoolkatadirtybirdn1hihat534 i had the 225 and now oen the 12.2. So much more detail and resolution while maintaining those sweet mids. Definitely the 12.2!

@CM-dw3gh Год назад

@@AbsoluteFidelity are they ok a high volume? Alpha audio mentioned distortion at not particularly high volumes

@AbsoluteFidelity Год назад

@@CM-dw3gh Alpha Audio had a dud Im certain, because full spins from ASR and Erin of the 12.1 (not 12.2) show no signs of that harshness. And I do not hear any brightness from that region.

@prabinpaudel5572 3 года назад

Steve you should review harmonicdyne zeus.. I know you'll fall in love with it. 😁

@Gnofg 3 года назад

I had the Wharfdale Diamond 9.1 and I was underwhelmed. The woofer's were too small in my opinion. I am glad they moved up to 6 1/2 inch woofer. A good acoustic album to listen too is the Dave Grisman Quintet. The Dave Grisman Quintet '80 has a great interpretation of John Coltrane's Naima. The first album has the best quality recording. Tony Rice passed away yesterday. One of the greatest acoustic guitar players ever. Leo Kotke is very good.

@michaelware1649 3 года назад

R.I.P. Tony Rice

@lifeevent88 2 года назад

Who is Tony rice?

@Gnofg 2 года назад

@@lifeevent88 A great guitarist. Listen to him with dave Grisman.

@Gnofg 2 года назад

@@lifeevent88 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-x05z27blg80.html

@shipsahoy1793 Год назад

What did you think of the 12.2 compared to an Elac in the same price range?

@Music-4all 2 года назад

Hello Steve, How you rank these 3 Bookshelf Speakers - Klipsch RP600M, Wharfedale 12.2 & Polk Reserve 200? Thank you in advance!

@craigleslie7615 Год назад

Great shirt - therefore I respect his opinion straight up.

@sgtgonzo5076 Год назад

'ribbed driver increaes listening pleasure!' lmao

@sander3505 3 года назад

How do they compare to the q3030i?

@peterfitton4529 2 года назад

Satie is a tricky customer, so to speak, as far as piano sound is concerned. I wasn't very impressed with the sound of the Rogé either. Even worse (more thin & "clangy") were Aldo Ciccolini's 1980s recordings. Klara Körmendi on Naxos, otoh, had a disastrously thick and over-warm sound that just doesn't suit Satie at all. Didn't help that she had zero feeling for the music and sounded bored throughout, either. Best I've heard for Satie are Ciccolini's 1960s recordings (now hard to find, sadly), Frank Glazer's 60s recordings and Peter Lawson, who sadly only recorded one album's worth of Satie, but it's very good.

@peterfitton4529 2 года назад

Does anybody have any opinions on whether these are a significant step up in sound quality from the Diamond 12.1s? In the UK these 12.2s are only £50 more expensive. Also, for a small room would the 12.1s possibly be more suitable? Thanks.

@philhaha4243 3 года назад

Hey Steve love the channel.just got myself the whafedales 220 was on a budget for only £130 uk.what are your thoughts..or should I have saved up a bit more..replacing my mordaunt m10 shorts...

@crazyprayingmantis5596 3 года назад

I think the 220s are one of the best bang for buck speakers around, they sound great

@themastroiannis 3 года назад

Had the 220s for a while and found them unrefined and muddy for my taste. highs were extremely rolled off.

@crazyprayingmantis5596 3 года назад

@@themastroiannis Did you expect refinement for the price?

@marijanbrkic4875 3 года назад

@@themastroiannis Yes, the Diamond 225's were much better imo. I haven't listened that new 12 series yet.

@MrHubb1 3 года назад

Great review. Im trying to decide between these and the B&Ws. I live in an apartment and I listen to mostly heavy rock, classic rock and some pop . At the moment I have a JBL extreme 2 but I hate having all the sound in one speaker and no sound stage and the sound is either full of bass and too little trebble or too much which is why I want to go back to an old school set up like I had in the 90s . I want physical volume and treble and bass knobs and speakers that can be separated and are flexible so I can turn them up when the neighbors are out and not disturb people if everyone is home. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thank you.

@mattb9664 3 года назад

You can really hear those ribs!

@Maxumized 3 года назад

Nasty boi

@AllboroLCD 3 года назад

DId you attempt to Bi-Amp or Bi-wire these bad boys brotha? I am most curious as to the perf differeance. BTW, factory tour vids are the absolute best! Tour more factories when life is safe again, I know you wanna do rogue audio in PA, Rogers High Fidelity is also fairly close upstate in Warwick NY, The Mac factory in binghamton has been done before but be still cool to have you do it.

@maureenwassermann767 3 года назад

I think Rogers moved out of Warwick, NY. I see new address out of state.

@AllboroLCD 3 года назад

@@maureenwassermann767 Ahh damn.... really?

@ewanderric4679 3 года назад

Hey Steve, why don't you take a look at some cabasse speakers?

@henrikmolinmail 3 года назад

Would you try testning a pair of Mission QX-2..?

@Hotflop2011 3 года назад

You know what everyone want to see. Klf with amp review

@wahooworld 3 года назад

thanks for actually demonstrating the speaker! It means so much to hear you just TALK about a speaker, but not actually letting us HEAR IT! Duh

@dynster 3 года назад

Wharfedale Diamond 12.2 or Triangle borea br02 + sub for watching TV and listening internet radio??

@ShutterLifeCaptures 3 года назад

I have been looking for this info as well but honestly probably going to go borea br02. There's a couple of reviews regarding the br02 being good for home theater setup and especially for music. Plus I like the looks of the br02 better.

@akoolkatadirtybirdn1hihat534 3 года назад

Digging that shirt. Decisions decisions. Mabey I'm getting old liking wharfedale more and more. I have to admit when you pick up a speaker like he said at any price and its light and chinsy its almost as bad as it being ugly.

@louiesipes2257 3 года назад

I bought Ascend Acoustics Cbm170 years ago and the after reading a review on Affordable Audio of the Sierras by Sean Fowler, bought a pair of those. I’m done, but love your videos Steve.

@ML-rm3vk 2 года назад

Steve try erik satie cd or record played by aldo ciccolini

@thienan567 2 года назад

Ribbed driver enhances listening pleasure!!! LOL

@howardskeivys4184 3 года назад

Speaker manufacturers, take note. When manufacturing speakers, stick a couple of bricks in the bottom. That additional weight will go a long way to suggesting to the consumer, higher quality and better sonic reproduction!!! The higher price due to increased shipping costs should also appeal to the gullible customer. Nice one Steve.

@foolgold9464 Год назад

I don't think Steve was saying weight strictly translates to quality

@blunderingknifereviews1028 3 года назад

Ribbed driver...lol. That was low hanging fruit.

@rosswarren436 3 года назад

That's what she said... ;-)

@vivianvaldi7871 3 года назад

Hello, if the Wharfedale are flatter than a pair of Bronze 100, then we must have a sound concealed in a kind of 1 cm layer between the ham, the pickles and the bread. Are u sure there's still some place for egg mayonnaise in there ?

@Burritosarebetterthantacos Год назад

$499….they are now $599😂

@ryousuketakahashi5038 3 года назад

Everybody just buy Wharfedale EVO speakers ! They are the best under 4000$ !

@nichoaswilds8669 3 года назад

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@HareDeLune 3 года назад

Excellent praeternatural aliasing shiskebab.

@temp7774 3 года назад

Unfortunately Wharfedale Diamond 12.2 has nothing in common with the original line from 80-s, beside a name of course.

@ATommy-lz4jd 3 года назад

Except it is well engineered now in Germany compared to "guess work" from 80s. Now its much better than every other diamonds than before

@temp7774 3 года назад

@@ATommy-lz4jd Wouldn't say that a "guess work" was a "design process" at any stage of any speaker design ever but these new ones have nothing in common with the originals.. These 12.2 are entirely new speakers, a way better and larger than those from 80's but branding them with Diamond is nothing more than a marketing trick.

@rosswarren436 3 года назад

@@temp7774 changing the model number is "branding"....You don't expect a 2021 Honda Accord to be the same as a 2000 one...But they are both called "Accord"....It has more to do with where these speakers fall into Wharfedale's speaker line up...so yeah, the "fit" is the Diamond series....Not the Elysian and not the Crystal....

@ProjectOverseer 3 года назад

The Whalfedale 11.2 we're superior.

@themastroiannis 3 года назад

just because you own them, doesn't mean they're "superior"

@rosswarren436 3 года назад

Some say the 11.2 have a bloated mid-bass....whereas the 12.2 is more refined. But if that makes you happy then more power to you.

@joeygonzo 3 года назад

so, it's boring

@richardsinger01 3 года назад

Or “not irritating”

@rojona 3 года назад

There's no need Steve to make your channel better. Just keep on doing what you've been doing for many years-bringing practicality and common sense to the world of audiophilia. Have a happy and healthy 2021.

@johnsimmons5056 3 года назад

"Ribbed Driver Enhances Listening Pleasure"......best line ever in one of your videos.

@jonathansturm4163 3 года назад

That tickled me too :-)

@maxjasmine 3 года назад

Listed on the Trojan package.

@1mctous 3 года назад

But is it still effective?

@drazenbabich 3 года назад

@GeneralCurtis3LeMay We were discussing enhanced ribbed driver pleasure here and you went all serious and technical on us....lol.

@carlosbauza1139 3 года назад

Ribbed for pleasure is advertised, also, for one anti-conception device.

@francescotenti193 3 года назад

Once again, great review! Lots of choices in the 5-700sh price range, too bad it has become almost impossible to find a store for direct listening and comparison and then choose the best for our ears. I truly miss the "old days"!

@AbsoluteFidelity 3 года назад

Wharfedales are THE BEST when it comes to making lush sweet relaxed sounding speakers. Wharfedales also are not really suitable for people that cant hear well in the higher spectrum but perfect for people with 'normal' hearing.

@SamEagle17 3 года назад

Interesting you mention the weight. I recently picked up a pair of Klipsch 600-M online based mainly on your reviews. I was swapping out a set of 5.25 Polk RT bookshelfs. The Polks are built like a tank. I was worried about my purchase when the larger Klipsch were lighter. Well, weight isn’t everything. No comparison in the sound. Thanks Steve. I enjoy your channel and appreciate your willingness to serve the entry level audio enthusiast. I can certainly afford the higher end stuff, but I’m very happy in the value sweet spot.

@MrPINKFL0YD 7 месяцев назад

We need more reviewers like Steve! He obviously loces music first and the hifi is a vehicle to bring the music out. Too many put the equipment first and the music is an accessory to them. 🎉

@phrtao 3 года назад

Takes me back over 30 years. Wharfedale Diamonds were my first speakers that I owned

@mehmetcamat4458 3 года назад

From your explanation I would go for 12.2 cause you said it I like neutral unforced and good midrange

@jimomertz 3 года назад

Yeah, a David Lynch fan! Don’t forget his masterpiece work Mulholland Drive.

@crazyprayingmantis5596 3 года назад

I still don't know what the hell is going on in Mulholland drive, I think I've watched it 6 times 🤔

@drazenbabich 3 года назад

@@crazyprayingmantis5596 Did you fall asleep at the key moment all 6 times? :-)

@crazyprayingmantis5596 3 года назад

@@drazenbabich Nup

@drazenbabich 3 года назад

@@crazyprayingmantis5596Sorry to hear. The movie isn't that difficult to understand ans certainly doesn't require more than 6 times viewing to get the plot.

@jwbrook 2 года назад

Love your style, Steve. You’re right… There is no such thing as perfect sound as it is extremely subjective. I also very much appreciate that you mention some of the artists you use in your listening process. And, dude… You referenced Leo Kottke and Eraserhead in one review. Kind of makes you feel like an old friend. Keep up the great work.

@СергейМогутов-ъ4д 3 года назад

A nice thing about mellow speakers is that they just play. Don't draw attention to themselves. You start to truly appreciate them when you trade them for something more analytical and annoying )

@СергейМогутов-ъ4д 3 года назад

@GeneralCurtis3LeMay I don't really believe in the sound of "British construction". A thing is a thing, it can be assembled in Mars and it still will sound the same. The brand belongs to IAG. And measurements proof that they know what they are doing. For now I use Wharfedale 230 and I'd call them a speaker where middle frequencies are it's bread and butter. British sound is basically "good sound". Maybe also "mellow sound" cause of the well known "BBC dip".

@СергейМогутов-ъ4д 3 года назад

@GeneralCurtis3LeMay Do you realize that there is such a thing as technology? I have lots of things that is made in China, a really high-tech stuff. Like optics, processors etc. It doesn't matter where stuff is made, if technologically they are made to the same tolerances and QC. I'm perfectly fine with Chinese made products, I have a problem with Chinese tyranny but that is a different story... Lots of manufacturers have Chinese factories nowadays, BW and KEF are perfect examples of high-tech mechanical stuff. And China is not what it was used to be, it's starting to be a technological pioneer, for example my Godox strobes are IMO better than European and American offerings, so are DJI drones. Even Tesla is building a plant there, and they say that Chinese engineers will make their own Teslas. Your thoughts are dated IMO.

@СергейМогутов-ъ4д 3 года назад

@GeneralCurtis3LeMay I say what I think. Being friendly is not my top priority. I try not to be rude but what I'm doing on this page is not your business. You can start your own channel and then say who can speak there and who can not. I don't care about all that Soviet goodies BS, that's from another era, from a fake era by the way, and being Russian I can say that 99.99% of soviet goods were horrible with QC, they are not even close to my Wharfedales that I partly disassembled and I was amazed by how good they are made inside for that price. I've had some famous Soviet speakers and they are as bad as it gets. They sound horrible and they are ridiculously bad in terms of craftsmanship. As I've said, British sound is just an acronym kinda for a good sound basically and the famous BBC dip is part of it. Take care!

@Victorius-ua 3 года назад

@@СергейМогутов-ъ4д so, do you think they are good for the price?

@СергейМогутов-ъ4д 3 года назад

@@Victorius-ua I don't know yet, but I plan to test them somewhere later. I think that Carl Gustav Fink (the designer of this model) was also a creator of popular Q acoustics range, and Wharfedales are know for their cabinet construction and budget hifi, so they might be good.

@DougMen1 3 года назад

B&W's strong suit has always been the crisp and airy highs that Monitor Audio and Wharfedale don't have. That being said, the Monitor Audio Bronzes I had were very good at disappearing and leaving me listening to the music instead of the sound.

@rabit818 3 года назад

“Marketing bs” lol I like skeptics

@ThomasSielaff 3 года назад

Been watching Steve for quite some time now, and as they say in Brooklyn: "What's not to like?" Love this channel!

@HareDeLune 3 года назад

Well said indeed!

@corkydukeII5898 3 года назад

Too bad Steve isn't on the beefier side, so we can call him 'Gluttenberg' : )

@KarmaElectronics. 3 года назад

RIBBED FOR HER Pleasure! hmm i think i could talk her into a set >:)

@lynnpoole7830 3 года назад

Steve , thanks for the heads up regarding the French radio FIP. So much eclectic, fantastic music! Thanks.

@HareDeLune 3 года назад

Yes! I also just checked it out today. Great radio station.

@bizyz 3 года назад

you need to review the tower version of this new series.

@goozlo Год назад

I originally got the Diamond 12.2 and it was a box of distortion and harmonics , awful speaker. I returned the 12.2 and got the EVO 4.1 and what a difference. The EVO 4.1 is light years ahead , the sound is crystal clear , the amount of clarity and details you hear are immense, the base is super deep and tight, much better than Diamond 12.2. And the looks are to die for.

@CM-dw3gh Год назад

I was reading an article by Alpha Audio and they mentioned this too. Such a shame as i do like 'loud' at times.can i ask what wattage your amp is?

@goozlo Год назад

@@CM-dw3gh Nad C275 150w per channel at 8ohm

@paulhanlon5112 9 месяцев назад

I have the Wharfdale Denton 85 Plumbed up to an Arcam A39, I once tried a pair of Wharfdale Diamond 225 on the back of the 39 and while there was a noticeable drop in sound quality , they were quite acceptable and would definitely be good enough as stand in replacement if needed, smoother but not as refined as the Denton !

@shipsahoy1793 Год назад

Eraserhead ?? That movie made absolutely no sense to me lol🤯

@williamgreer4958 3 года назад

I bought a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 230 speakers in the summer. They sound a lot like what you said about the 12.2 speakers. I have always loved the more laid back "British" sound and have a Cambridge Audio integrated amp as well. I really like what you say about equipment not being the best as there is no such thing. It is all about what you enjoy the most.

@Atilakus 2 года назад

I have 12.2 with Cambridge ARX100. Seems that this combo works awesome. If you like mid range for the reason mentioned in the video. You will love the sound they produce

@K03sport Год назад

how much power did they get? everyone says what amp/avr they used, but never gives the RMS of said device. I always have to go look it up and find the info (sometimes). The flat cables are interesting too. for someone like me with a lowly Marantz NR1610 (slim, 50w/ch), will I get similar performance?

@1mctous 3 года назад

J. Gordon Holt would be pleased. He often said, "get the midrange right."

@ago3241 3 года назад

How do these compare to older Wharfdale Diamond 225 or PSB Alpha P5 or Triangle BR03?

@hmrowland6114 3 года назад

I have a new pair of Wharfedale Evo 4.2...I'm sold on the Wharf! Amazing jazz speaker. Steve how does D12.2 compare to D12.1? Many reviewers love them.

@jackdanyal4329 9 месяцев назад

I just ordered a brand new pair of diamonds 12.2 for 300 euros, B&W 607 S2 costs 340 euros per 1 speaker :)

@richardburnett8595 3 года назад

Hi Steve thanks for your reviews I got this number 12. 2 I'm 52 it's a good time to buy audio speakers 6th set all good 👍

@donaldspaulding6973 2 года назад

Accuracy is what I look for. A good speaker will accurately make a crappy recording sound crappy and great recording sound great. Which bookshelf under a grand is the most accurate? BTW- I listen mostly to classical and jazz.

@TheWALSHYv69 3 года назад

Ribbed, enhances, and pleasure all in the same sentence were words I thought would never be used to describe anything else except for a condom.

@robertbuchholz8447 3 года назад

I'm always getting new music recommendations from Steve - thanks. Great review of the 12.2.

@docdeens4030 3 года назад

Great review as always...don't go changing too much. Happy New Year!

@tothemax324 3 года назад

Seen Leo Kottke live at the Perth concert hall, his national steel playing real smooth man

@jonathansturm4163 3 года назад

Saw him play in Australia many years ago. He put a finger behind the nut of his 12-string and bent all 12 strings. Every guitarist in the audience sighed in unison. I also saw his mentor John Fahey when he made his live at the bottom of the world gig over 40 years ago and Richard Gilewitz’s reprise of that event. I very much enjoy the American Primitive guitar style.

@jorgenavas6704 6 месяцев назад

Hello! Which integrated amplifier do you recommend? Marantz pm6007 or Denon pma600ne to get started in audiophilia? and watch movies? greetings from Argentina!

@Mjay1320 3 года назад

Thanks for the really good video, you have such a nice way of explaining :) I ordered a pair 12.2 for 310€ today, can't wait to try them out.

@spandel100 2 года назад

How were they?Also ordered a pair.

@paulwg2112 3 года назад

Great! This was the equivalent of a UK reviewer reviewing non-UK speakers. Thanks Steve!

@dayfornight88 3 года назад

I was lucky enough to find incredible deal floor model totem acoustic dreamcatcher book self speakers... only paid $169.cnd these are giant killers

@LeoRousseau 3 года назад

Nice! I've always wanted a Totem, but I can't afford new and can't seem to find a good deal like you ran into.

@avianoeducationcenter6667 3 года назад

Wharfedale Diamond 11.2 vs 12.2 ! What are the differences in sound?

@ryousuketakahashi5038 3 года назад

The 11.2 Sounds much better in every way [ bass extension, midrange, diamond-like highs ]. The Diamond 11.2's are more stylish than the new series and better made. The 11.2 are the best standmount speakers under 1.400 € . You won't need a subwoofer. Bass extension as low as 40 Hz, tight and deep.

@ryousuketakahashi5038 3 года назад

Yes, very good. But if you can.. Buy the Wharfedale EVO 4.1 ... They cost a little much more but they sound DIVINE. They sound better than 3.000 or 4.000 $ speakers. Today i received mine. The EVO 4.1 are the best. When you listen to them you just feel every emotion. The same music on the evo 4.1 sound 10 times better than Diamond 11.2 . It's worth every Penny.

@rosswarren436 3 года назад

11.2 is more artificially bloated in the lower mid-bass...The 12.2 is more neutral. As others have mentioned it is like Wharfedale followed ELAC in toning down their "bloat" from the Debut to the Debut 2.0. Now, some might like that bloat. (Many have). And it might be fine in certain rooms. YMMV. As always it depends on what you like and maybe whether you are going to pair them with a dedicated sub-woofer. A coworker of mine got the 11.2 when they were on the fire sale and is using them in a small office in his house without a sub and he is very happy.

@MrAhuraMazda 3 года назад

Steve Guttenberg is the real Eraserhead

@Aswaguespack 3 года назад

Holiday Shirts add ommph to this Morning’s Presentation. I’m not sure what has jolted me into full awakening this morning, my large mug of Java or the Shirt. I leaning heavily towards the shirt. Excellent morning presentation. These comparisons are very valuable to provide a good starting place for investigating speakers. Too bad that the audio stores with listening rooms are very rare these days. We have lots to look forward to in 2021 most of which is to bury 2020 deep and move forward in hope. Seasons Greetings Steve & Mrs Steve.

@ENGBriseB Год назад

Amazing speakers the 12 series.

@Hi-FiBBQ 3 года назад

On the back of one of Leo Kottke's albums, he describes his voice as sounding like "geese farts on a foggy day".

@Aswaguespack 3 года назад

Geese farts is better than monkey poop flying at you by angry monkeys. Leo’s voice is pretty unique and special and he’s an important part of the music contributions of contemporary music.

@HareDeLune 3 года назад

Check out his "Whitey and the Chicken" monologue from many years ago. A very strange tale about cruelty to musicians, friends, and animals. m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rUD6x87NtaQ.html

@jonathansturm4163 3 года назад

@@HareDeLune There’s a definite knack to killing chickens. My uncle Dick was a very strong man and on his first attempt at wringing a chicken’s neck, ripped its head off with the consequence of blood spraying all over him. It was quite a messy affair.

@HareDeLune 3 года назад

@@jonathansturm4163 My parents were Country folk. We had big gardens and a chicken coop when I was young. I remember my dad killing chickens in this fashion, and seeing their bodies flop around the yard in their death throes. My mother would boil them to facilitate removing the pin feathers while preparing them for cooking. It would always produce a terrible stench throughout the house. However, after the work to remove the feathers and cook them, they would taste very good. We then used the feathers to stuff pillowcases and make comfy pillows to sleep on. We also enjoyed fresh eggs from the laying hens. A bygone way of life, rarely seen these days.

@jonathansturm4163 3 года назад

@@HareDeLune I’m missing the farm. My neighbours up the road reduced the labour content of plucking considerably by purchasing a plucking machine from Romania on fleabay. It looks like rotating inflated rubber gloves and they borrowed my large Ryobi drill to drive it the first time they used it. You actually don’t dip the chickens into boiling water; that sets the feathers tighter. The water needs to be at about 150-170F. You can get away with lower, but the water cools off pretty quickly and you don’t want to have to keep reheating it if you are doing any number of birds. We’re fortunate here in Tasmania in having tasty free-range meat birds costing very little more than tasteless factory-birds that in truth are reject laying birds.

@tonydeniro284 3 года назад

The diamond 225's were the best imo...3 reviewers agreed in stereophile, and it won the budget component of the year award in both sterephile and absolute sound. Plus, you can now still buy them for only $299, down from $449! That would be my choice over these more recent 12.2's....

@AbsoluteFidelity Год назад

Price aside, the 225s has nothing against the 12s, objectively and subjectively. Ex owner of both.

@doomsday247 Год назад

@@AbsoluteFidelity The 225s is objectively and subjectively no different from the 12s except the price?

@AbsoluteFidelity Год назад

@@doomsday247 there are full spins of the 12.1 and and the 220. Objectively, the 12 is a better measuring speaker, flat as a baby's bottom with a baked in 'BBC Dip'. Subjectively, the 12 pulls ahead even further, from clarity to soundstage width to bass. The 12 is just a way more resolute speaker. Ex owner of the 12.2 and 225 here.

@ryanwilliamson7657 3 года назад

Do you think the 600m is still your personal favorite speaker in this price range 2 years later?

@FlyGuy457 3 года назад

Wharfedale Diamond versus Elac Unifi 2.0 ?

@joeygonzo 3 года назад

Probably needs more breaking in

@ML-rm3vk 3 года назад

great video terrific shirt thanh your wife terrific .

@gage4375 Год назад

Wich one is better for female vocal

@mikeshaddock7772 3 года назад

Any chance you could do more amps. I have my speakers but need more info on different amps

@MakerManu 6 месяцев назад

I Live in Tucuman Argentina and love your channel. Short question everything is expensive here 12.2 vs psb XB (used like new almost half of the price)?? only one bullet.

@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac 6 месяцев назад

I never did that comparison so I couldn't say. But if you've heard the PSB speaker and liked it, do it! No sense wondering about is something else better, especially if you've never heard it!

@eshwar1276 3 года назад

Great take! In the end, which ones did you go to?

@silkhead44 3 года назад

so they're buttery?

@BabeTheAstrologer 3 года назад

Is this the best one?

@robertstern368 3 года назад

Hey Steve. I'm looking for wire bookcases like the one behind you. Can you post where you bought this? Thanks

@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac 3 года назад

Metro shelving

@paulo1901 3 года назад

I got two of those in my basement. Got them from Homedepot.

@mikecoffee100 3 года назад

Look forward to 2021 with Steve

@RasheedKhan-he6xx 3 года назад

Steve thank you, I'm seriously considering these for a new tiny home. There's an interesting connection - they are designed by Karl-Heinze Fink who recently stepped in to finish the last job his friend Ken Ishiwata started but died before completing. This was going to be a special edition Rotel A11 and CD11 series that KI was putting heart and soul into after mysteriously parting ways with Marantz. He got as far as approving prototypes apart from some minor changes he thought they still needed. Then he died. Now the series has been named Tribute (A11 Tribute and CD11 Tribute) with a Japanese character placed on the front that translated means something like 'respect' or maybe 'reverence'. It's kind of a shame on Marantz as far as I'm concerned that after he gave them 40 years its Rotel that is honouring him this way. Anyway, I don't know if you're a big Marantz or Ishiwata fan? Can't recall any reviews on your channel but in any case I really hope you get the Rotels in for a run. This is epoch endings stuff and part of that KI legacy is that they kept it affordable, very much like these speakers.

@jonathansturm4163 3 года назад

When the preamp section of my RA 975 started to fail, I purchased the A11 and use that for its pre and to drive my tweeters. The 100+W in the RA 975 drive my woofers. I’m more than happy with this combo and especially pleased with the cost!

@karl-heinzfink5930 3 года назад

In fact, I was using the 12.2. a lot during the sessions with A11 and CD11. It was with a heavy heart, as we did this for Ken. He was so happy to restart with new projects after he had to leave from MARANTZ. If you have a chance, give it a try and listen to it in a set.

@RasheedKhan-he6xx 3 года назад

@@karl-heinzfink5930 Hard to find a higher recommendation than that. And its really cool that you are here taking part in the conversation! Grusse aus Berlin!

@karl-heinzfink5930 3 года назад

@@RasheedKhan-he6xx, there are a few RU-vid channels I regularly watch and one of them, Steve Guttenberg is doing.

@CC-bg8gf 3 года назад

@@karl-heinzfink5930 Thanks for your insight, Mr. Fink. I have the Rotel A12 and I’m looking forward to have a listen to the 12.2s when the Hi-Fi stores in my area (Montréal, Canada) start carrying this new Wharfedale line. If you don’t mind me asking, was your team responsible for all aspects of the 12.2 design (drivers, cabinet, cross-over, etc.) or just some specific part of it?