What’s Causing So Many Big Tours to Flop? 

July 1st no more ticket fees in california! New law

@@Decimusblack88 They will just add another tax...

I would be too with a population willing to pay their entire life savings for a show

Im a new employee in their industry and I can confirm that they are unanimously hated by booking agencies

Of course they are! What this industry guy for rock feed failed to mention is that it’s only Live Nation bands & acts that are canceling! All non Live Nation bands are touring great without canceling!

And who would go see Blink nowadays anyway.

I would’ve never paid that. You shouldn’t have either! That price is getting me pit tickets for this fall

The f you seeing blink for? They are absolutely atrocious live. I like some of their music but damn, what a cringe live band

What were you thinking ?

Just give me that money.

You have 0 clue how much it cost to tour. Absolutely 0

Yep!

100% While rent,food,utility services are skyrocketing entertainment companies feels its ok to also skyrocket their prices.

Thanks dude this is what I was looking for 🤘

Prices had already been ridiculous for the past 20 years, especially with Ticketmaster's monopoly. We stopped going to big shows anymore just like we ended going to Disney World, and it looks like the rest of the populace is finally smartening up too. This is how you force them to bring down prices.

plus Bidenomics and the music blows.

I saw the Stones in 1997 and found out later that none of them played their instruments and Mick was lip-syncing. Haven't been to a concert since.

$12 beers and $30 parking r cheap comparatively. And it’s not just concerts it’s sporting events too. Prices r absolutely out of control and a market reset will invariably happen

@@Spring_Forward_Fall_Backwhat’s your evidence of that happening? Nobody was doing that in ‘97 especially the Stones

Bro Milli Vanilli was lip singing in 1989-90...musicians fake it all the time!

@@lordcarl4584 they didn’t sing on the actual recording so of course they wouldn’t sing live. Totally different scenario

And then they wonder why their 65 dollar t shirts aren’t selling.

100$ for parking!?! Where??

@@TylerJohnstonGuitar Was at an attila concert recently and Fronz asked how many people bought shirts. Only like 5 people raised their hands in the venue.

Right! Paid $400 for 2 tickets to jelly roll last year this year went to get tickets and same style seats they wanted 3 times that this time

@@TylerJohnstonGuitar Yeah man, it’s insane what they’re charging for a shirt these days at shows. In Canada it’s anywhere from $55-$65 for a shirt, $100 for a hoodie. It’s nuts.

And progressive rise if the ticket price...pure extortion

President Joe Biden recently announced that ticket sales giants Ticketmaster and Live Nation have pledged to provide consumers with full pricing upfront, ending surprise fees at checkout during online purchases. So, it’s a step toward more transparent pricing for concert attendees!

@@lakenneth374 He probably forgot about that three minutes later

​@@lsmola What's the point? Corporate greed isn't going anywhere.

@@alfgwahigain5544 Well at some point people will stop going, bigger inflation is right behind the corner. I already know lots of folks that cant/dont want to go to concerts. You can only milk the cow for so long if you know what i mean.

Exactly!!

I agree. Also you don’t know if they’re really singing or playing live or is it a backtrack. Plus everybody’s got their phones out obstructing my view. Attending concerts is not as fun as it used to be.

Yeah! It’s way too expensive and I’m too old to stay out late.

Exactly! They are expecting premium ticket prices for what is essentially a cover band. Foreigner is an excellent example of this.

That is way Im old and only attend to underground 10 bucks 2hs shows, to see new bands and support the new kids

That and even mid level bands are asking for way to much for tickets that should be 1/3rd the price they are asking.

Or paying $1K to see Don Henley mime

@@909One92 That's a big part of it too!

makes one wonder what happens when that last profit avenue (touring) isn't even profitable, what happens then?

Amen! Video killed the radiostar. Bring back analog recording!

@@ignskeletons AI and avatars!

The digital age is here. There is no putting that genie back in the bottle. The bands have to tell record labels to suck it. They used to serve a purpose. Now they are just in the way taking too much money for themselves.

Not really. Bands in the 70's and 80's got 10%-20% of their album/cd sales; before costs. That's why they had to hit the road to support their album. That's where they actually made their money.

false.

Not at the show I just attended, Tedeschi Trucks w/ Joe Purdy.

agree, disagree, agree and agree

I think a lot of rock concert goers are mostly millennials or older any way, meaning we have more responsibility then we did as teenagers/young adults (like paying for a mortgage) so it's not like we can go to lots of big concerts any more. Plus they charge a ridiculous amount of money then before.

The last show I went to was in 2005. It was Motley Crue. The whole time, I was like, "Yeah, almost 40. Concerts are for your twenties." It wasn't fun at all. I'm 56 now. If someone my age is still going to shows and jumping around like they're 25, something is wrong. I remember when I was 25, Grace Slick said the same thing. I see why.

​@@mkp3824 i'm sure I would still enjoy live music when i'm older (in my 30s currently) but i am more tired out now, especially with kids, so less motivation and exhausted, so i completely get that too. But i hope i can still enjoys things like I did when i was 25 😅

@aurora6920 it's just not the same as you get older. I was 37 when I saw that last Crue show. I just sat there, kinda chilling out. I was away from my friends. I don't drink, so it wasn't like when I was in my 20's, drinking and getting loose. It was a good show. But it just wasn't like the same as it was. I remember seeing Motley Crue ten years earlier, in 96, thinking how the crowd got old. Going to a show at my age, unless it was something like ELO, or the Stones, etc, just doesn't seem the same.

@@mkp3824 I see, aw that's sad to know. I don't drink anyway during concerts, but yeah i will probably have no energy at that age, as i don't have much energy now due to having a toddler, i am going to a concert in few weeks and i'm nervous about to be honest! Want to be at the front, but too tired to stand all day haha

Big reason I don't go to concerts any more. Maybe one per year. It's no longer worth it.

You are so right! 100%. I will see a smaller/newish band in a less than 3000 seat/person venue for $50 or less. Then I have no problem spending $25 on a shirt. I feel like my money is actually getting to the band.

"Ha! You think it's funny: Turning rebellion into money!" -the Clash '78

Exactly! It's the antithesis of what Punk stands for

I wouldnt pay 10 bucks to see punk rock and sit in the front

Willie174 we know that, you spend all your money loitering at Chucky Cheese.

Starting to think Ticketmaster, Stub-Hub, and Live Nation are all secretly in cahoots.

Yaaay for small venue artists I guess.

Has nothing at all to do with AXS or Ticketmaster or Seat Geek or whoever the primary distribution is done by. Artists set the prices, and they're way too high.

@@jeffcarter3821 artists likely do that because no one makes money off album sales anymore. Probably greedy management has something to do with it as well. Management always wants a big cut of money I'm sure.

You can thank computers/Napster/free music! Concert tours were only to promote a record NOBODY HAD TO BUY!!! & often tickets were cheaper than the album. Watch Fast Times At Ridgemont High. The kids are ready to bounce when scalper charges TWENTY DOLLARS to see Van Halen IN THE FIRST 10 ROWS, the biggest rock band in the world at the time! So, enjoy Generation Computer! 🤗❤️ SMGDMFH🙄 🤘🌎❤️

@@jeffcarter3821 The fees are too high.

Got to see the Cure last year one of the best shows I’ve seen in the last 10 years I didn’t have to dip into savings and put money away for 6 months to go. I left that night thinking what is going on with all these other bands that they can’t see the disappointment of spending $2000 to see one of your favorite bands and you feel like they just ripped you off. Makes me not want to support them anymore. Just made me a bigger fan of the Cure and 100% go see them again and now my daughter is a huge fan because we could afford to take her and have that experience of seeing a amazing band.

Ages ago I saw Fugazi at the Palladium in LA for $6 at a time when other shows there were several times that price.

Robert Smith is cool...

@@alfgwahigain5544 some of the best shows I’ve been to have been under $30 a ticket

Yup. I saw them in L.A. Been a Cure fan since the 80's. What he did should be the template.

I never paid to meet any bands or have " VIP " . Guess I was the real MVP 😂. The fun was waiting after the show & getting to hang out.

@@Penelopesyoutube the first few concerts I went to (Nonpoint, The Veer Union, Adelitas Way, Ra) they didn't have VIP/meet n greet but I was still able to meet and take pics with them at the merch booths after they played. These were also small bars with stages and not arenas. But as the bands get bigger, you gotta pay for their time, there's almost no chance of meeting the band at the merch booth. But that part I don't mind, as a rock bands VIP is a couple hundred at most, vs Chris Brown literally charging people $1111 to meet and take a pic with them

@@thedeadmanfan09 I met the biggest bands of the 80s , hung out back stage & never paid a dime. $20 ticket , memories of a lifetime. You guys missed out . Was completely organic. Much more fun

@Penelopesyoutube man that must have been amazing. Times have changed. I was born in 96 and didn't get into rock until like 2008. I was lateeeee to the party. I just started making enough money to be able to travel for concerts a few years ago, so I can imagine what I missed over the decades

Ditto all of that.

Did you watch the video? Over 100 million tickets have been sold this year.

Come on now, the dollar only lost 20% of its value in the last 3 years.

@@TheNinjaPicker Annnnnnd, over 100 million tickets have been sold this year. 🤔

very true....i have 5 kids and the price of a ticket with my wife can pay for a lot sneakers, t-shirts and food...lol

It's the great Biden economy. They say food is up 19%. LMFAO, it's up closer to 300% in many cases...what a disaster.

The late 70’s era was the Golden Age of live shows. Zeppelin, Tull, Alice Cooper, etc. Real music, no BS.

@@unclebuck5051 KISS

it used to be £3 to see The Who! I'd still love to see them again But I'm not willing to pay hundreds of pounds

and there was a point in the concert where everybody help up a lighter. a very cool point of the show

Tool is very strict about no cell phones. Best concert I’ve been to in 15+ years. That was a major factor

yup, people are b-r-o-k-e. Also, all of our public spaces in North America are a lot less safe than they used to be. Stay home and stream/watch videos; save money, stay safe.

yup...and who goes alone? it's usually the wife or gf so double whatever the price is....lol

spot on

Hundreds of dollars for a concert? Screw these backing track lip syncing posers

A mild silver lining is that I'm spending my money on seeing local bands. I love concerts but I'm feeling suddenly at peace being back at smaller local venues again.

Nah. Small venues aren’t like they use to be, either. I saw Electric Callboy at Ace of Spades in Sac, and I paid $140 through Seat Geek ($100 for the ticket; $40 in fees). And guess who owns Ace of Spades - what looks like a small, locally-owned venue? Live Nation.

Aerosmith used dynamic pricing from what I understand. Last tour, I get it. But sorry, $450 for a cheap seat? Nahhhh, I’ll take a hard pass on that.

Sacrilege to us 1980's heavy Metal Fans when the likes of Motley Crüe were recently busted playing air guitars to backing tracks.

@@michaeldunagan8268 100% spot on.....

Their #1 album was a big source of the band’s revenue, so they could make less in the tour. Today, bands only source of revenue is touring, so they have to charge more (along with every thing else being more expensive (travel, insurance, salaries, etc.))

You have to be a superstar to sell tickets.

Inflation from Bidenomics sparked the high inflation that has tripled and quadrupled prices on many of our essentials. Trump: $1.89 per gallon of gas Biden: $4.59 per gallon The price of gas drives EVERYTHING up in price.

@@yellyman5483 And ticket prices for superstars are astronomical.

I thought I would add the following the very first album I bought was the Beatles. I’m pretty sure it was called meet the Beatles it cost me $3.57 plus tax I know exactly because I keep the cellophane wrappers on my albums and there’s the price $3.57.😊

@@charlenemack7040 I remember those days. My parents bought a beautiful new 3 bedroom home for $14,000. You can't compare prices.

happy birthday and many more. we used to hitchhike to Boston garden and if you waited 20 minutes after the opening they would let you in free a lot of times. 71 here

Now that I'm in my 40s I think about all the older people I met when I was going to weekend campout festivals in my 20s. Who were these people who enjoyed doing this in their 50's?

I’m in my mid 50’s and have watched them drain the magic from the industry. You hit the nail on the head and underneath that head is a nail filled with hundreds of reasons nobody cares anymore…..especially about rock. Sad because I remember when the magic was so powerful that it started in the traffic jam! I watched it all collapse in slow motion from the inside of the business and one event that started it (among many) was the death of the mighty BILL GRAHAM in 1991, especially for touring live shows. He invented it and when the huge corporations sucked up BGP along with radio (record companies had already succumbed)…..EVERYTHING started to change and ticket prices and the way you bought tix got ridiculous! Mix everything in with a younger generation that in truth REALLY DOESN’T CARE ABOUT MUSIC (or much else of reality) along with your important points…….

….cont’d: as far as venue size, we used to have theaters everywhere! Beautiful and incredible places to see an act. Now, those are all but extinct. Sheds with package tours still work but then there are $$$$problems on both sides of the equation. 25 years ago touring was expensive, now it’s in the stratosphere. Also for good measure, the internet, social media helped kill the magic because it’s too easy to over expose an act. The great managers back in the day knew this with tv. The Col. Famously stopped letting ELVIS on any shows after those early few. Peter Grant and Zeppelin knew and respected this as well.

2 things Ticketmaster, more like rip. Off master buying tickets on a phone. Just so they can rip you off. Then the politics of these bands are I Nothing but liberal idiots. Don't tell me how to vote. I'm not stupid.

Funny how you forget about Gen X or are you lumping us with boomers...lol.

yeah... we buy last minute single seat tix. I saw A7X for a hundred that way last fall. We gotta rock out with strangers, but we get to rock out at least.

@@embertheelder I got tickets to 3rd rye blind 28$ each Gen admission

I just buy them when the show is first announced.

@KarlRock! Love your channel!

@@KCBeck You actually paid money to see 3rd eye blind??? Why?

You don't need to buy cds and videos, that's all free on Spotify and youtube

@@frarfarf and what do you have when the internet is down?

@charleswidmore5458 that has happened to me like once in the last decade, for a few hours... wtfru talking about

@@frarfarf it should be rather obvious. either you own it or you do not and you seem to be fine with the 'do not.' that is fine. I would rather own my media, but you do you

@@charleswidmore5458 it should be obvious that you don't choose to pay for something that is free

far more than just 10x

Yeah I remember the days of staying overnight in front of a ticket master and paying twenty bucks for an amazing show. Man I miss the nineties.

​@@tonygonzales3206 dont we all..

My first concert was like 1970, Three Dog Night. Had to drive 30+ miles to the arena box office to get a ticket, no other choice. Ticket for floor seat, row 21, aisle, 6$.

True, the hell with "the experience" of the concert. I pass!

Hey bud. The dollar sign goes IN FRONT of the number.

@@jeffmartinaz lol

@@jeffmartinaz does it really matter? Who really gives a fuck? Lmao

@@jeffmartinazwhich is stupid cuz u don’t say dollars 200 you say 200 dollars in real life.

inflation should have raised a 1985 $25 ticket to 2024 $80.

Exactly, pretty simple.

Wise choice! Somebody is awake!

Anyplace down with not accepting cash is morally bankrupt. Legal tender for ALL debts, public and private. Cash is freedom.

Life changes and so does the industry. You can take a stand but that's like stopping a flood with a hand vacuum.

That's OK, I know how to swim.

​@thomasmann2327 so just srug your shoulders 🤷🏻‍♂️ that will def fix it

I can't imagine the black keys playing in an arena and filling seats.

Not only that but rock as a genre isn't hot anymore in the United States.

They've headlined arenas for the last 14 years, did arenas in the U.S. as recently as 2022. And most amphitheaters are bigger than arenas anyway.

Amphitheaters arent bigger than arenas. Theres a reason theyre called sheds in the industry. You can fit a lot more production in an arena.​@whitneyryan-ng1cq

Black Keys should be playing Casino's and festivals. They're not an arena band anymore. Out of site. Out of mind.

If that's the case, I'm glad I saw them in 1991.

Great band, but no, just no.

And isn’t with a substitute guitar player because Navarro has long Covid? Too bad the original line up will never go on the road again, but I’d still pass because of the gouge even if they did. I paid $1k each for my date & me for 9th row center floor seats in 2017 for Tom Petty, but that’s because I figured it was my last chance. He passed away a few months later so it was, but those same seats wound be $3K nowadays.

@@brinsonharris9816 Dave Navarro is back after a three year absence due to long Covid. Still isn't worth that price. How fortunate you were to have seen Tom Petty on his last tour. He is dearly missed.

@@kbusby4824 Yep, even at $1K a ticket it was a great, great rock show, one of the best I’ve ever seen. American Girl & Breakdown were all over the radio when I was in 9th grade. Show was in Tampa, so there was a serious homecoming vibe. We loved him and he loved us right back. Band was in killer form too. So JA is now touring w Navarro & Eric A on bass? That was the lightning in the bottle line up back in the day. Too rich for my blood these days, though. Perkins always goes all out. He did a lot of the heavy lifting over the years.

Great points 👍🏻 Same in U.K. too.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but the real culprit was the 1996 Communications Act that was pushed by the Republicans and signed by Clinton, who is essentially a big business conservative. Soon after, almost all of the radio stations in the country were owned by one of two companies. They fired all of the DJs and station managers and went to automated programming and one central programmer. So we're listening to someone's musical taste that they decided we should listen to when we turn on the radio. There are only two people who get to make the decisions of all the music we are hearing on 90% of the music radio stations in the United States. And their musical taste is poor. Those numbers are accurate, by the way. If memory serves me correctly, one of the corporations is Westwood One and the other is Clear Channel. Before that was passed into law, most radio stations were locally-owned,reflecting local musical tastes and promoting emerging, new, local bands that would sometimes become national or international bands. The system to develop those bands at a local level has been wiped out by the Communications Act. Additionally, in the past, the music would drive the merchandising. You'd go to see a great band and you might buy the T-shirt or a poster before you leave the concert. Now bands are set up for merchandising, not music. Everything is contrived. I mean, there was always that element of dressing bands up in costumes and having them scowl at the fashion photographer for the photo shoot. But now everything is 100% geared towards the money-making side, with little regard for the artistic side, and zero respect for the harsh economic reality of 70% of the people living in this country. Let's not forget that a lot of musical artists now are putting way too much money into the staging. They're spending vast amounts of money on props and excessive lighting and costumes that I don't need when I'm seeing a band that can play good music. I enjoy a good show, but I don't need all that splendor to tell if the music is good or not. If you told me I could see that show for $50 without all that spectacle, or I could see that show with all the spectacle for $450, which option do you think I'm going to choose? We don't have that $50 option. So I choose to stay home. And about the performance, unless you're seeing an indie band or a punk band, you're probably seeing a band that is using backing tracks and that is lip-syncing to their pre-recorded vocals, which are often modified in the studio with pitch control software. Most can't even sing well. Or at all. Listen to Britney Spears or Jennifer Lopez actually singing, masked by all of the overproduction. They can't sing. They just have a look that sells to some people. Superficial gloss was always a part of American popular music, but never to this degree. The artists were still expected to perform - not pretend - unless it was one of those tacky variety show appearances where they lip-synced to their single that just came out. People weren't buying concert tickets to those TV events. They weren't being asked to pay $2,000 for a front row ticket. If the Black Keys would like to come to one of our local small music clubs and charge $50, they could fill the place and make a decent living. If you happen to see them, could you let him know? PS - A lot of that ticket-scalping is being done by some of the bands themselves. The bigger they are, the more likely they are to be involved in it. It's a dirty little secret.

Listen to Billy Strings. He’s the answer.

@@chriseidam7319 Brilliant. Everyone should read what you've written here so that they understand the cultural dystopia we're all living in was caused by the 1996 Communications Act.

No​@@twbl218

The honchos at Live Nation/Ticket master are scorched Earth Capitalists and have no intention of lowering prices and fees.

Wish this was still a thing supported in my area and you didn’t have to drive hours for it. Public transit isn’t an option around me either smh. Sucks so much.

Yep the problem is those places are few and far between in the 80’s they were everywhere now not so much

@@NoCoverCharge exactly!!

​@@NoCoverChargeyeah they shut down most the local cheap clubs in Houston, same thing with comedy. A lot bands will skip it and just do Dallas, San Antonio and Austin

People don’t care about live music anymore. Thanks to streaming music as a commodity has zero value. There aren’t any artists or bands anymore providing the soundtrack to their child hood. The only people going to shows are mid 20’s/early 30’s and up. The only tours that do well are things like Taylor Swift that are “status” shows and show you have the money to go.

Everyone virtually has $1500 in their pocket. That's MSRP for the newest cellphone. That's what they cost straight up when you aren't in a multi year contract

Never had a problem printing a ticket.

All those reasons and especially the "lousy annoying audiences". When I started out going to see big acts in 1980 (first two bands seen that year were AC/DC and Queen, a great start), fans were engaged in the gig, and they sang when prompted to, in the right places. Now, so many of the audiences are talking or filming or (at a Cult gig last year) eating nachos and not looking at the band (called out by lead singer Ian Astbury). Or, they sing non-stop, at the top of their voices, every lyric of every song, out of tune, and right in my ear. I pay to see and hear the band, not everyone around me. Whatever happened to just listening? Singing along is good, when the time is right for it in the show.

​@@geocam2and it's nice to keep the paper tickets, I have framed all mine from the 1980s to the 2000s and put them up on the wall.

You must have paid a scalper. 🤣

I saw them in 2011 Dave felt old then

I saw 'em for 15 bucks in their prime.

I payed $40 for front row seats to a Paul McCartney show in 2004. When i saw him again in 2016 the price was $200. It still sold out though.

I stood against the stage, up front at a nightclub and saw ,"the voice of Ratt " Stephen Pearcy for $35 .What a deal. He played 90 minutes. Stephen and the band were GREAT !!! So glad I went.

I saw Pink Floyd on the Animals tour in 1977 for $12.50 + $.75 ticket master charge.

I remember seeing Frank Zappa for six dollars at the Boston opera house

FWIW: I saw the Rolling Stones in Orlando, Florida in 1981 for 15.00 I believe Van Halen opens for them not sure on that though.

Thanks for taking the time to break it down for us.

@@petechau9616 I wish more artists (especially ones with bigger platforms) would take the time to lay it out for people.

I'm mostly with you, but when you said consumers don't have to go out for night life now because they can get it all at home....yes they can. But folks WANT to see live music. They just can't afford it, whatever the reasons or economic conditions.

@@MikePhillips-pl6ov I'm not saying that everyone is staying home because they don't need to leave the house to get what they need, I simply said it was one factor of *many*. Certainly a lot of folks, who would rather go out, stay home only because they can't afford to, but social scientists have absolutely noticed a trend of, particularly Gen Z, of nightlife aversion. It's such a problem in places like South Korea and Australia that governments have tried to enact policies to counteract it.

@CloseHumanMusic yet big acts are paying their side players less than ever.....the fact is there's way too much awesome talent out there. Nashville is overloaded with world class players getting as little as 200 bucks a show yet these bands expect us to pay 200 and up for a seat. Get lost, I hope they all go broke

Never heard from them, a Compleat unknow band to me. Ni loco pago cientos de $$$ por estos desconocidos.

They're a car commercial band they should stick to making music nobody wants for commercials nobody wants

At their peak they were headlining Coachella and on tour playing stadiums.

@@seansmodernlife9823 Azoff was able to get them on bills with lots of support acts to bring in their own audiences that COMBINED would get you a festival or stadium capacity lineup. But no the black keys were never anywhere close to a stadium act on their own. You don't know what you're talking about.

hahahaha

Did you throw any m80s? Bring a bong?

@@crosswalklarry security actually patted you down. You couldn’t get a camera inside.

That was an amazing show!

In 1965 I saw the Rolling Stones tickets were $2.50 and $3.50. I was 14 years old. I’ll save you the time from getting a piece of paper and a pen… I’m 72 years old.😊

I did this exact thing when I saw Filter play a tour warm up show at what was essentially an overgrown biker bar with a stage for about $30. It was amazing.

I'm into the smaller venues now myself...👍

@@jennrat2982 national bands at small venues are the way to go. However, tickets have doubled in costs over the last five or 10 years, but still much cheaper than the big venues!

Hell yeah! Did he malign poor people for eating fudge rounds? I'm sure a good time was had by all!

@MrMatthiasSchneider A good time was had, and listening to the context of the lyrics is helpful.

@@MrMatthiasSchneider I'm sure he did. As he should lol

There are no real musicians in your town. Not one busker? Well, a fool and his money are soon parted.

@@bravesblood What's the context of the lyrics? I'm reading the lyrics right now, and it sure looks like he's maligning poor people: "And the obese milkin' welfare But God, if you're five foot three and you're three hundred pounds Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds" Oliver Anthony seems to have a problem with poor people. Don't know how else you could interpret that lyric.

They literally scalp their own tickets. They're in business with those "second hand markets". They've been playing that game for a very long time and people kept buying into it. I have refused to attend any shows from Ticketmaster/LiveNation for over a decade now. Small venues/bars are waaaay better than any big arena show anyway.

wedowedo

Sorry, but I'm not running around hunting for reasonably priced tickets to line the pockets of a greedy industry anymore. It's just not that important.

No need to be sorry. ​@@DAISYROSE22

Tickets were fairly inexpensive … at least they were not outrageous… when I was a teen (16 in 1976)… whether it was Peter Frampton, KISS, Pink Floyd or the Eagles… usually in the old Miami Baseball or football stadium, or at the Jai Alai frontón for Springsteen, Tom Petty, Jethro Tull or Heart…

@jrm2fla yes, before capitalism ate every industry.

This ☝️

Do they all go first class on planes and hotels should cut those costs to start with and not think they are so above every one else.

@@lindaellen808 ... Only the top of the top level touring acts fly first class. Most average touring bands fly coach. I've done lots of tours where band members/crew members share hotel rooms. Usually we are not in a hotel long enough for it to matter that much (usually you are only there long enough to shower). Sometimes a band will literally rent one hotel room, request extra towels....and the whole band and crew get showers, and its back on the bus and on to the next gig. Then, occasionally, if there is going to be a couple days off somewhere, everyone may get their own rooms (at a Best Western or Days Inn type hotel), just so everyone can get good rest and have some private time. Usually those days are all about getting laundry done, finding decent food, and getting some sleep/quiet time.

Thanks for sharing your experience

Very good points made here, it’s a wonder that any middle or lower tier band can afford to tour, and God knows they make very little percentage of music streaming revenue.

SR9752: Thanks for the insights!! Very interesting!!

FJB

FJB

Brandonomics,build back Brandon

Bingo!!!! 100%

When you have no idea how the economy works you complain in RU-vid chat

Most tickets were not even that expensive back then either . I saw nirvana in their prime in 1993 for 20 bux and they were the biggest band at the time.

Amen.

Pearl jam in nz atm worst seats are like 400$ starting prices 😤

@@kristalharrison5757 that’s crazy

I remember in the early 2000s tickets still being 15 to 20 bucks for a show and 50 for a festival.

i have gotten to not even going to shows anymore. haven't been to one since i saw Tool late 2019. i support bands i like these days by buying merch from their official online stores. and be careful doing that, even! there are a lot of websites out there selling shirts that claim to be the bands "official" merch store, when they aren't. i generally find the official merch stores thru the links that the bands or management run directly and link thru their official social media accounts.

Yep, that with the economy, inflation and Live Nation, l bet that's most of the problem.

Poor guy.

This is the truth.

Great summary. You pretty much nailed it.

In Atlanta cheap Creed tickets are $160

I looked recently at Creed tickets. Most of the pavilion seating was sold out. I saw them in 2009. They were giving away lawn seats.

It used to be £30-40, 10 years ago, now it's more like over £70+

I saw Queen for $10 in 1984 in Birmingham England. The Works tour. The one with the Metropolis stage set. God knows how much it would cost to see a mega show like that today.