This is not the first time MS does this confusing naming. At one time there was 3 different pieces of software named Explorer, yes, the Windows Explorer (the Windows file manager), the Internet Explorer (the web browser) and Front Page Explorer (the file manager inside Front Page web making application), why? Only MS knows.
I have Microsoft 365 which includes Office Outlook (which I like) but that looks as though it is being migrated to a new "Outlook" which the Windows Outlook is also being migrated to. My Office Outlook has option to "try the new Outlook". Excellent explanation which I will refer my friends to when they ask about "Outlook".
Agreed, Leo!! MS is such a big company with much to offer and yet when you Google an issue with "Outlook," most of the time you get references to Office 365. I own Office 2019. MS goes out of their way to avoid helping me because I don't contribute to their Office 365 revenue stream. I'm dirt under their fingernails and God forbid they support me. It's if they are saying, "Look loser, you bought a one time offering of our program. You don't pay a monthly fee, so drop dead." Typical MS!
I bought various versions of MS Office over the year, but absolutely refuse to use the subscription model. For personal use I've switched entirely to alternatives (LibreOffice for office tools, and emClient for email)
What about Teams and Teams - the home one and the business one? Slightly different icons. And Microsoft account - Microsoft personal account, or Microsoft 365 business account.
I didn't realize Microsoft had an email program (the one I am using) that wasn't Outlook. I have seen that message about Outlook replacing mail and calendar and was confused by it but just ignored it. Glad I caught your video!
I just had this confusion at work! We were using Gmail for our business but everyone decided to go with Outlook! When i opened Outlook it didn't look like anyone else's! What a pain! IT said"Well thats the wrong Outlook!" Why in the @#$$ would they have 3 with the same name? So confusing! Thanks for the Video!
Thank you Leo for bringing this to light, so much confusion. But I guess that's the Microsoft way. This information has been very helpful and now I know the difference. Again thank you!
Thank you for the explanation! I use Microsoft Office Outlook and recently discovered about Microsoft Windows Outlook replacing Windows Mail & Calendar in 2024. Not sure what I want to do for the future as it is possible I could be changing to Unix on my PC the way Windows seems to be going to "pay to use" programs (i.e., 365) and maybe even changing to an Android Tablet as I'm getting older (I'm 68) and just don't need all the bells, whistles, and headaches in the future. Got any suggestions or maybe go more in depth with this on a new video for us Seniors?
I use a MacBook for work, and we use enterprise exchange accounts for out email. The Outlook program for MacOS used to be the Mac port of office outlook, but Microsoft has really been pushing for some time for people to use the new version of outlook, which you referred to as Windows Outlook. As far as I know it is not possible to run both at the same time, but it is possible to switch between them, by clicking an item on the File menu, to enable or disable “New Outlook”. The new outlook is missing several features that are available in the old outlook, most importantly to me the ability to automate tasks with AppleScript.
Migrating email from a Win 8.1 laptop running Outlook 2103 to a win 11 laptop. I want to use REAL MS-Office Outlook, so I'm glad you clarified this before I started! When I searched on the Win 11 machine for Outlook, I saw the same thing you showed, and I GAVE UP. But you have greatly clarified things. I'm planning on EXPORTING the emails from Outlook 2013 and IMPORTING the emails into Win 11 MS-Office Outlook. I hope it goes well!
Interesting that you list pop3 and imap4 as possible email protocols for office outlook (for which both office outlook is far from being ideal) but not the protocol it was made for: exchange and its eas protocol :-) Anyways, the first one is usually called Office Outlook as you stated, that makes it clear then. It was deinitely less confusing when the free windows client was called Outlook Express, i agree :)
I mean, yeah -- Microsoft says the "New Outlook" is replacing the "built in" mail client in Windows 11 -- yet the "Preview The New Outlook" toggle is being directly targeted to O365 users directly inside the O365 Outlook Client as if the O365 Outlook client is also being replaced by the "New Outlook." So I'm still unclear about what Microsoft is doing with the O365 rich client.
Classic Sheel to the rescue, after installing the OS it's the first thing I do even before Internet and antivirus. Works great on anything up to Windows 10 (haven't tried Open Sheel recently but was too buggy when it came out)? Windows 10 is only to use some programmes that are already locked out of WIndows 8.1. 8.1 is to keep the machines going longer as it's already "broken" compared to 7 and XP, 10 irritates me enormously but 11 can't do it, had to try and work on someone else's 11 and just wanted to chuck it out the window
I am glad I found you! Thanks for the explanation. I can now say I am a Microsoft Office Outlook user. I have been using this version for a very long time for work and home with many contact categories. My wife always referred to it as “old” Outlook (like it went away or is going away). Question: Is there another Mail/contact program out there that you like better?
Thank you so much for this. I’ve sometimes feel that the 3 Outlooks are competing on my computer. Please do a similar comparison and review of the two One Drives which are trying to steal folders from my hard drive.
Thank you. I'm not much of a commenter, nut I did find this very helpful trying to sort out all of my MS Office 365 structure that I'm setting up. This was very much appreciated.
So Outlook the Office 365 program they are calling the Outlook app and the new Outlook app they are calling just Outlook!!!! Thank you Microsoft!! I'm sticking to Thunderbird - very tired of their non-sensical naming conventions.
This is the worst (Microsoft) situation you've ever encountered? How about back in 2015 when Microsoft reached out through the internet and forcibly installed unwanted versions of Windows (10) onto unsuspecting people's home computers who were still happy with Windows 7 and 8? I haven't trusted them since.
One thing to note that while Windows Outlook is "free" it forces ads onto you. I think this will be Microsoft's preferred revenue model going forward hence why Mail will be discontinued. I refuse to use it accordingly and will stick to Office Outlook on my PC.
Only the traditional "Office Outlook" is secure. The other two 'versions' require that your emails be delivered to a Microsoft server where they'll have the potential to be scanned for advertising leads before being streamed to your laptop together with the targeted ads. If your emails are not housed on your own hard-drive in .pst files, then they're housed on a Microsoft server.
I've seen Outlook change since the days when Outlook Express was killed and I like its features. Even it's quirks are understandable but I tried the demo of the new Outlook and was completely confused. Why deliberately confuse your clients (users)? Is Microsoft in business for their programmers or their customers? Is there progress? The answer is clearly "there is change".
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I'm not looking forward to the Mail for windows being replaced as I have to use Office 365 outlook for work. It will be confusing to use Windows Outlook for my personal emails with my gmail account. Just hope they have different icons as this will make my life easier or I would have to find a good gmail email program.
@@soundNTechdude2022 I don;t beleive so. Looks to be all download-only these days. www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/buy/compare-all-microsoft-365-products?&activetab=tab:primaryr1
I use the office 2019 outlook…which has the option to change to “new outlook” which I hate. I’ve been using the office outlook forever and really like it,
The new Outlook that Microsoft has released for Windows 11 is meant to replace the Windows Mail & Calendar apps that came with Windows 11. It is lighter than the Outlook that comes with Microsoft 365. It is not replacing Outlook 365
Leo, I want to use the new Outlook, it look promising. I am also worried that Microsoft at some time in future will discontinue with the Classic Outlook. With Classic Outlook I have a lot of pst files. I would like to keep them by adding Online Archiving to the Outlook drop down menu. I have Microsoft 365 Family account. I try to get into web accounts portal to set this up but it will not let me access since I do not have work or school account. I somehow have to setup admin privileges to be able to set up this online archiving. Can you advise how to do? Or do I just have to wait until Microsoft add this feature for all.
Are you sure "Windows Outlook" downloads mail to your PC? When I tried it there was no support for working offline, and linking non-microsoft email accounts wanted to allow Microsoft servers to access your mail, calendar, etc. on other providers, which seems like a big privacy problem to me, I am going to steer well clear. Have moved back to thunderbird.
Only the traditional "Office Outlook" is secure. The other two 'versions' require that your emails be delivered to a Microsoft server where they'll have the potential to be scanned for advertising leads etc. before being streamed to your laptop together with the targeted ads. If your emails are not housed on your own hard-drive in .pst files, then they're housed on a Microsoft server. One of the reasons to get your own domain name is to divorce yourself from the big email servers (Yahoo, gmail, Microsoft, etc.). The last thing you want is to send your own private email to Microsoft so they can scan it, or make it available to any Tom, Dick 7 Harry with a warrant.
Can anyone tell me if the new Microsoft’s modern authentication methods requirement will effect the email accessed with Microsoft Hotmail using an internet browser like Firefox. Microsoft says If you do not act, your third-party email apps will no longer be able to access your Hotmail email address on September 16th, 2024. But is Hotmail accessed through a browser a third-party email app? This too is very confusing, and seems to have a lot of people scrambling right now.
I didn't know lmao was a protocol. If you mean IMAP, you can't "change". It's a choice you make at account setup time, so you'd have to set up a new connection to the account using IMAP, and then disconnect the POP.
Haha.... wouldn't it be OK if finally Microsoft would name the "Windows" Outlook to Outlook Express ? It did have this email software back in the days, when Windows XP was the main OS from Microsoft. So, could we have this name back ?
Microsoft uses the same method as the following anecdote. Person A wants to know what Person B's PIN code is. The latter is generous and says: 3333, and adds: "But I won't reveal the order." Person A thinks Person B is an imbecile, but he is mistaken. Because, Person B uses different fonts for the number 3.
It's not that confusing - multiple versions of Outlook will be replaced by a unified version - and the replacement will always involve legacy and beta/new.
Hey Leo, i beg to disagree with you. All the 3 are perfectly distinguishable. 1. Mail for windows is free and comes installed. It only happens to have a toogle that allows you to try out some outlook features. 2ndly MS outlook is paid for application with full features lastly OWA is web application which u access through the browser.
Oh, they are quite different, as I outline... and yet when someone asks a question about "Outlook", I still don't know which one they're talking about - it could mean any of them.
Leave it to MS, only ONE of the BIGGEST Corporations on the planet . . . To complicate a simple thing. The Windows Consumer is waaaay down the corporate priority list.
Very clearly explained. All this is without al the other variations such as older MS apps (i.e. Windows Mail, Outlook Express etc) the Mac ecosystem, and mobile apps. FGS Microsoft rationalise the whole thing and simplify!
The Office version of Outlook is being replaced and when the transition is complete, Microsoft EXCHANGE will be discontinued. Just another way for Microsoft to avoid paying for resources. The "New" version's calendar is HORRIBLE. Try printing a Landscape version of a single month (suitable for hanging on your office wall or cabinet).