As someone who has worked in automation for 18 years, give me physical dials and gauges in my car any day. Just because you can put something on a tablet / screen doesn't mean it is a good idea.
I said that about smarphones. Before Apple, we had smartphones with buttons, ports, stylus, and actual keyboards. Apple came along and removed all those things in favor of a big ass screen. They won in the marketplace of normies and now I am forced into using these less functional, wildly annoying modern-day smartphones.
It’s like when they brought out the New Mini they relocated the speedometer to the front of the driver away from its central location. They reason was to comply with Australian Design Rules. What happened to that?
same as the new steer by wire, before EVs cars had to have a mechanical link to the steering wheels (found this out when i got in trouble for driving a tug on the road in 93). Also theres a minimum length for shotguns which is 18.5 inch, not so with the 410 IF you make it a revolver. fact is any industry with enough money can get an exception from the rules we mere mortals live by.
@@maddhatter3564 Steer by wire is absurd,can't compete with electric assist which is as good as it gets.Don't want to know about hydraulic again.Just common sense would dictate a mechanical connection still gives the ability to steer even if any assistance has stopped.
@@evfactsnotliespleaseignorant in the sense that we ignore some of the condition experienced by the EVangelist such as “range anxiety”. Believe me, we don’t envy you for this kind of knowledge that u have
Imagine paying $70 000 for a battery toy car and getting scrap metal prices when the time comes to sell it, talk about ignorance....bwahaha @evfactsnotliesplease
One of the most idiotic things about Teslas is the glove box, which opens electrically by pushing a button on the friggin touch screen. Simple my ass. Same for all the other stuff that has been electrified for no apparent reason, I guess because it's an electric car so *everything* has to be electric. Even though a normal mechanical solution would be much more practical.
@@azul93gt38 Yep. Most "techies" today don't even know what a resistor or capacitor looks like, not to mention know how to solder. All they know is buy the latest tech and call themselves techies.
This sets my mind back a year plus when I asked car review channel on RU-vid to place a "NO BUY" signal on EVs. It reminds me about the response from comments saying that lithium batteries wear down. They produced information to say that they don't and won't. So I am grateful this information is now available.
In 2007 I had the pleasure of driving an '89 Accord LX 5-speed, and it was an incredible car. Converted the R-12 AC to R-134a, and I'm not exaggerating when I say I could get the interior temps down to the lower-50s (F) when it was 90+ outside. Comfortable, rode well, great on gas, enough "oomph" to merge effortlessly into 70mph highway traffic... And, of course, those sexy flip-up headlights! What I wouldn't give to have one of those in my "fleet!"
When I was a teen, about fifty years ago, one of the complaints about the new plastic-cased lead acid car batteries was that they could not be repaired. As it turned out they could and my uncle made a business of it. I was his staff. Lead-acid batteries can be repaired cell by cell. So to of course can Lithium Ion batteries but the work involved is prohibitive. And only good only until the next one goes.
There's big money in making firefighting equipment for lithium battery fires. It's expensive and doesn't really work. But fire departments that have it can virtue signal when they arrive at an EV fire.
I don't know anyone on earth who has replaced individual cells in a Tesla battery as a workable business. They are glued in to the cooling system which snakes around the curve of the cell. Even replacing one cell in a pack can't really be done without tearing down the pack destructively. You can swap out the packs, but no one is replacing individual cells because the effort isn't worth it compared to just buying an entire pack from a crashed tesla.
The difference is a failed repair to a lead acid battery causes the battery to die. A failed repair to a lithium ion battery is a thermal runaway. No repair shop in their right mind would accept the liability for that kind of risk.
Firstly there is no money in fixing them or recycling them. No one wants to buy a repaired or recycled battery. Cells can look good but be on the verge of runaway. Several battery recycling plants have burned to the ground. Its like playing Russian roulette.
Fun fact: a vast majority of new car batteries sold are actually refurbished sealed-lead-acid batteries (even big brands known for reliability, like Interstate). And the "Maintenance-Free" SLA car batteries did, in fact, require occasional maintenance (like topping up the water level in the cells).
I spent years working in tech support. I had a job all those years because tech breaks and it has always boggled my mind how much blind faith people put in their devices, big or small. I dont trust the stuff to for more than a bit and they gladly put their life in it's hands.
Cutting edge high tech doesn't have to be like this, but the modern way of doing things involves rushing software releases through the door, cost-cutting measures, and relying on customers for beta testing. Although any respectable company would deny they do this, it isn't true. Writing quality, robust and reliable code that just works can be done, but it requires a different mindset to the current business ethos. Microsoft set a very bad example, and others followed.
Ill never forget when a super nerd geeky acquaintance said to me: "Ive hated the idea of having a regular car but Im all excited about maybe owning a Tesla, and EV because they're NOT really an actual AUTOMOBILE, but rather a tech gadget on wheels". Actual quote - and if you saw this guy - you'd agreed it all makes sense - he obviously lacked "Dad time" to toughen him up in the actual real world 🌎 where men work, play & take Dominion.
My 22 year old car is like a hobby doing it up and servicing it it is cheap as shit ,I could well I am going to keep repairing it for another 10-15 years people give you complements aswell and I own it no repayments that's a cost aswell
@@stevenjones916the wind technology just becomes more unstable as you scale it up. The blades cannot be balanced and this creates a vibration throughout the gearbox to which the gearbox finally shits itself spectacularly. Engineers have been telling them this from the beginning.
Really? Tesla vehicles don't have the Speedo and basic instruments in the dash in the usual line-of-sight location like almost all other vehicles?? Really? (I've never looked inside a Tesla..)
I have worked with software companies on financial systems since the 90's -- if programming is running EVs they will never be reliable, as you said: just look at your laptop and what it does (or doesn't) run without any incident.
I might be interested in an E.V if they manufactured a "peoples E.V" AKA simple to repair yourself like the original air cooled VW beetle was, (and hopefully with safer battery technology). But these EV's are bloated with bells and whistles that are likely designed to fail (post warranty of course) until then ill keep driving my 90's tacoma 4x4 with manual windows...its been a breeze to repair/maintain myself.
Other than the actual motor-moving-the-car thing (not at all simple giving all the monitoring and continual adjustments) there's nothing in the iPad interface that can't be done in ICE cars. So why not make ICE cars with iPad interface? Well, it's coming. Mostly in the realm of tracking you and selling your retail store preferences, controlling your speed, shutting down the car if you don't make your payments and all the other fun things that come with electronic brains.
The early adopters were all about accepting compromise and build quality issues. And, now there are far more manufacturers in the EV market. You can only put lipstick on a pig for so long before people notice the smell.
The early adopters are going to be in for a shock, in a few years, when they are unable to sell, or trade in, their EVs, because nobody wants them They may not even be able to get someone to tow it away for free as scrap, because of the cost of disposing of the toxic and hazardous materials in them. They're going to end up spending thousands of dollars to dispose of them. I can open up a newspaper and see ads from scrappers who will tow my ICE cars away for free, if I need to scrap them. You won't see that for EVs.
@@OM617a You're overlooking the fuel... Plus every other car has "wires and chemicals" in it.. Sounds like you're just sad you're missing out on the tax breaks. Don't blame the driver for taking advantage of something on offer.
I had a. Older car that had a motorised seat and the seat motor burnt out . Failed safety inspection which was bullshit because I was the only one that drives it and it was set for me . I got rid of the seat and put a manual leaver seat in ..
These computer touch screens are not suitable for cars because of hear and vibrations as well as being hit by loading a 2 x 4, luggage etc. Those video panels cost THOUSANDS while a knob never fails. Stupid games for stupid people. I bought a 2003 pick up because I will never buy one of these over engineered crap wagons.
As an electronics engineer I would never buy an EV just on the way they are presently designed. One simple little $0.01 ceramic capacitor shorting out... on the motor inverter board... which is mounted *inside* the motor casing because 'efficiency', and telsas resolution when this fault occurs? Buy a completely new motor/drive unit at half the price of the vehicle. Its insane. Imagine having to replace your ICE engine because your ECU is faulty because the ECU is mounted in the crank case, thats how stupid EV's are.
Thank you, I’m an electronic repair technician. These things are anything but simple. The number of things that can go wrong is horrifying. But EV’s are made to be disposable. There is no foresight involved with this industry.
I built my own EV scooter 17 years ago and joined an EV club in Austin Texas because I had recently moved to a town nearby and wanted to make friends and new business connections. I discovered that EV fans were a bunch of flakes who wanted to be fashionable: cool, green, and electric. They did not want to hear about all the issues I was discovering, mostly around the battery. The inverter I chose, a Teco MA7200, recorded data so I had hard numbers. There response was to ask me to leave.
One issue is exterior control of the car. Governments want them so that drivers can be geofenced, charged per mile and tracked. Thus enforcing the fabled 15min city.
In 48 years of driving the most reliable cars I've had have no electronics, no turbos, no electric seats or windows, no A/C. If it isn't on the car it can't go wrong. A simple rule.
@@bondgabebond4907 I had a Datsun 160J for six years and not a single problem. Just the usual consumables and the only reason I got rid of it was rust.
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I find it hard to believe that the major motoring organisations that insist on vehicle safety have not banned the use of the big display in the likes of the Tesla. It is not fit for purpose except if your only driving experience is on a computer. Some backhanders somewhere there I think. Controls have always been intuitive and single purpose mechanical devices but now, to make it all on a screen so you have to be distracted to operate the damn things is so anti safety I really don't know how they ever got away with it. Add in self driving and it is purpose built to kill pedestrians and other drivers. Still give it 50 years and someone might eventually grow some brains and some balls to say just what I have written here.
In the EU legislation is coming that mandates the all dials etc must be directly in front of the driver. That will mean major redesign of most EVs especially Tesla
Telsa get around it by claiming that all the controls work automatically. For example wipers/lights/defrosting everything is meant to be automatic so there is no 'need' for manual controls. The touch controls are just considered supplemental controls and not the primary controls - and thats how they get around the rules.
You're comparing a 46 year old car to any modern car that's full of electronics that can fail. It's not just EVs... How's that safety rating on your car though?
I have a 2015 eco LPG ford ute, in 9 yrs and 210,000kms the only thing it has had is oil changes, no breakdowns, no spark plug changes, no tune ups and runs perfectly, always keep your fluids changed regularly and these cars will last forever.
Well considering he is supposed to be technically minded he was a bloody fool paying that wasn't he. What a bloody idiot. Tbh I don't believe that. £2500 for a battery you can get from Halfords for £100 at the most. They saw the idiot coming
It's insane. How on earth can a 12V battery possibly cost £2500? I bet he could have stuck a £45 one in from Tayna, and the Taycan would not have known. And WHY did the 12V battery fail anyway? The one in my car is the original one from 2008 !
It's probably planned that way. If an ICE vehicle breaks down there's probably an 85% chance you can call your local mechanic or do the work yourself. If an EV breaks down however there's a 99.9% chance you'll need to visit your dealer and spend thousands of £s
Except even dealers don't want to deal with them, as it can be impossible to figure out the problem. I've always said I don't mind mechanical issues, as I can find them, see them, fix them, but electrical issues? They tend to be intermittent and a pain to locate, especially when electronics, and even more so when software is involved. You just don't know if it's a bug, a connection, a bad design, a physical breakage, a setting or WTF the problem is, and nowadays nor do the dealers. An ICE car you can plug into a computer and it will tell you what's wrong, but plugging a computer into a computer just gives error messages.
Thank You for stating the Obvious. Apparently you’re a genius! Cause none of the other millions of idiots see them for what they really are. Over priced electronic Failures. If they were all that great we would already be driving them vs Gas and Steam.
Once an IC vehicle gets to around 8-10 years old the dealers are no longer interested in repairing it because there is no money in it for them. This means you have to go to third party repair shops, No problem. However EV dealers lose interest the moment the warranty expires and they can wash their hands of it BUT third party repair shops for EV's do not exist so your expensive EV will suddenly become scrap.
Also: People really like to put videos up on YT. If you own a popular ICE vehicle, there will be multiple videos showing you how to diagnose and repair almost every possible problem. You should never buy a niche vehicle for this reason.
Dealers will repair anything they bring them. They get the same inflated labor rate, and markup for parts for an old car, as they do for a new one. I worked for dealerships for 12 years, and they never turned anyone away, if they were able to pay.
@@gamewizard1760 nope. im a mechanic of 37 years, a few of them in dealerships. after 10-12 years there are many the dealers just dont have the equipment for. (computer systems have change platforms many times)
The original Morris Mini was ( in part) prevented from being imported into Australia in the early 1980's because of the Speedo being located in the middle of the dash. Rover tried on numerous occasions but the Aussie Regulators would not bend. Then when the BMW "Mini" came to Australia, the Govt regulators made them change the location of the speedo. Now along comes Tesla and no problems, yep okay to have a giant size Ipad looking centre screen. I wonder if the regulations have been changed or the regulators are turning a blind eye.
In a few years, the disposal of these used EV batteries will be an environmental nightmare because there is no viable recycling options. NET Zero ? Don't believe the hype.
Timely having just hilariously watched Lee, MacMaster not able to drive the Taycan because the 12V accessory battery was flat after leaving it parked up for 2 weeks, duff after 2yrs. Oh and £2,800/Aud5,300 replacement cost! 😮 (Geoffbuyscars just released an even more hilarious edit🤭).🤑👍🇬🇧
as a mechanic of 37 years the worst part of my job is electrical. usually intermittant and often mimics other issues. now they want to have even MORE electronics, in a car thats subject to road conditions (extreme heat/cold,moisture,dust,vibration - all enemies of electronics)
The advert that pops up either before or after your piece is about an EV charging point to install outside your house, sitting on your estate. Attached to your large wooden garage. Plugging it into ( and this is sacrilege) an old Landy that has obviously been converted. Makes me smile. RU-vids algorithm does know irony.😂
I'm a software-engineer who started programming when Windows XP was brand new. And the last thing I need, is another "smart" device. Why? Because the industry is not willing to pay what good software-engineers demand. If you work at ANY software manufacturer, you will soon realize that most of your colleagues do not like software-engineering and they don't care. When you are in luck, you have one or two colleagues who are truly skilled at programming and actually like it. Thus, big tech software is written by people who hate their job and are just doing it in order to have a job. And you obviously see it at how the entire corporation goes about their engineering process. And you clearly see how the management is too incompetent for managing software products, where the developers stopped caring anyway. So no - I do not want more software in my devices.
@@ian-nz-2000Then cherish your workplace. The vast majority of corporations are quite hostile to their engineers/programmers, even the tech focused ones.
25-year Pgmr/Analyst here, and I have to agree 100%. Just think how these systems aren't properly tested. Scary. If these people would have worked for us, they would've been fired.
As a Software Engineer I can personally attest that most software decisions are made in upper management and they rarely, if ever, consider feedback from us on it's feasibility. They just say "make it work, you have a month to get it into production", which is the main reason why there is so much junk software out there. That and they often make us work on new "features" instead of fixing the existing software so we just pile more bad code on top of bad code.
It's hard to insist on quality even if management is on board with the idea. Very few customers use quality in a decision to purchase. From the customer's perspective, it makes sense: it doesn't matter how good the quality is if it doesn't do the thing they need, so the dreaded list of features is the first thing they have to check. Then, even if they want to use quality as a metric, how do they do that? Thorough reviews are shockingly rare, and a lot of work, so when they exist they're quickly out of date. So the customer has to purchase the software, try using it, and it can be days to test one piece of software, even if they can trial the software. It's often rational for the customer to just struggle with buggy software rather than spend a ton of time changing to a new package. So customers would prefer software be higher quality, but only a handful of them can make it part of a purchasing decision. And so businesses that emphasize it might see some fanatically loyal customers, but they need more than them to pay the bills.
I am so thankful for your well thought out videos. They confirm that my decision to purchase new a ICE powered vehicle for my retirement in my mid 70s, (a Mazda 3 for those who ask), was the right choice. Wisdom does come with age. The young chase fads. I know because believe it or not, I was young once myself. And I made some awful decisions back then. And I know that some troll(s) will go bananas in reply to this comment. But you know what? I couldn't care less.
Agreed, David, I am not far behind you and I am starting to think about buying my last car, ICE of course! All the best for the future - I am dreading what it will hold for my children and grandchildren 😞.
@fugawiaus I'm an engineer. So, believe this. Had to scrap three diesels within 4 weeks of each other. One was a runaway. Can't stop a runaway. It was collecting fuel in the sump, igniting it in the turbo, and blowing huge amounts black smoke out of the exhaust. Nobody could fix it. Expert suggestions were a new block. Uneconomical repair, scrap! Second got water in the air intake after following a vehicle through 8" of water. Car still ran, down on power, failed emissions. Uneconomical repair, scrap. Third. Car just suddenly stopped for no apparant reason. Rescue called. Told fault code showing made the car dead. CAN bus fault. Auto electrician couldn't find the fault. Uneconomical/impossible repair, scrap. Replaced it with an EV. My now high mileage EV is doing just fine. Zero issues to report. Best car I've ever owned. I've owned 278 cars every one of them at some time became glitchy, broke down, and unreliable. All bar my EV.
There’s a factor here that most people seem to be missing. Let’s say ICE vehicle drive trains have 1000 parts, and EV drivetrains only have 100 parts. This means that ICE vehicles have TEN TIMES more potential opportunities for parts failures than EVs. Therefore, if EVs are only as reliable as ICE vehicles, they should only experience 10% of the parts failures. However, if EVs only experience the same number of parts failures as ICE vehicles, they are already TEN TIMES LESS RELIABLE than ICE vehicles! In short, ANY failure figures over 10% makes EVs less reliable. This risk alone has to be the biggest reason for NOT even considering an EV. They lack sufficient durability to be considered fit for purpose.
You cant 'keep it simple stupid' with a multibillion dollar multirole combat aircraft designed to be in service for 30-50 years. 'Simple' doesnt cut it in the modern air war. 'Simple' just gets pilots dead. They tried 'simple' with the a10. It cant kill tanks. The pilots cant see what tf they were shooting at at any sensible altitude. It cant stay low in any combat environment involving a peer or near peer enemy, and height doesnt help it either. The americans have had to spend billions in upgrades to the avionics to allow it to do the job it was designed to do and do it survivably. They had to make it more complex. Every successful combat aircraft in use today was the most technologically advanced aeroplane available at the time of design and construction. And theyve kept upgrading them as needed. You think an F5 could take an F15?
Common sense is something that is learnt, not instinctively inherent in humans DNA. So common sense decline over the past decades is obviously not being taught to other generations. This can be because since the early 70s society began removing the products which would help with natures process of eliminating humans which were deemed in the "socially stupid" category.
We're not all driving around in multi billion pound a/c with loads of technicians on hand to fix the slightest discrepancy in an instant-I want my car to be simple,reliable,easy to fix and not bankrupt the bank balance. In other words-simple.
For years we've been told not to take our eyes off the road to fiddle with our phones. Now the dashboard is one giant screen, that forces your eyes off the road. Gone are the days you could blindly reach over to turn up the heat, or adjust the radio. And all that interconnection thru the computer is a problem waiting to happen. --- Who else remembers; "Alt-Ctl-Del?"
Ctrl-Alt-Del (or, as my PC Tech teacher called it in 1997, "the three-fingered salute") is still the easiest way to enter Task Manager, I have to force Windows Explorer to quit and restart several times a week because it won't open the "This PC" icon - Windows Updates caused a problem three months ago that still hasn't been addressed. It doesn't fix the initial problem, but it does get me out of a "frozen" machine. You think I want that "reliability" in my vehicles? NO THANKS.
I notice that the supporters are quick to point out that EVs have less components than ICEs but never mention that PHEVs have a lot more components than ICEs - basically all of the components of an ICE, plus all of the components of an EV, plus additional components to make the two power trains work together.
A lifetime in electronic repairs has taught me one major fact. The more complex you make items that rely on software driven electronics then the higher the chances of it failing and the higher the cost of finding the fault. This applies to all types of consumer products, ICE cars are almost as bad as EV's but they take it to the next level. Keep it simple, buy an older used car, or if you must have new one avoid the ones laden with useless gizmos that are of little use.
Once white goods became PCB controlled they became disposable bring back timers and thermostats they were fixable its a consumer con, the opposite of green sustainability. No one needs 30 programmes on a washing machine 6 at most.
I bought a Hyundai Sonata, mostly for my wife because she does like bells, whistles and screens but I have no illusions that the electronics will last beyond the warranty but it's a naturally aspirated 2.5L with 8 speed DCT automatic transmission so it might be worth a few repairs. but more likely we sell it out of warranty.
@@robertkubrick3738 I hope your Hyundai stays reliable for you. Some cars can last many years outside of the warranty, but the latest news about Toyota's recalls shows that even the most respected brands can have issues..
Worth noting that nearly every fuel injected car has a ecu/dme that runs the engine. Even a Toyota and Honda. Unreliable 60 module cars can be difficult. Like benz bmw. But it'd still fixable. Module repair and cloning and ebay, junk yard, dismantlers etc. An 80s bmw has a dme. Often many issues are solved with a simple repair of a cold solder joint that got old and worn out and isn't well secured anymore. The issue I am sure w EV is expensive motor and battery that totals the car instantly. A savvy enthusiast buyer can get a used engine or module and repair engine or module and have a working ICE car for a tiny fraction of the cost of a battery or motor for an EV. And the EV still needs brakes and window regulators and other shit. They're too expensive probably for more than a few years then it's probably mechanically totaled so to speak
That's why I drive a 25 YO Diesel pickup it really bugs me at the thought of having a perfectly good engine and drivetrain but the vehicle is unusable due to a faulty circuit board or such. Perfect example, my brother's boat is having major issues starting but once it starts (if it does) it will run great all day until you shut it off then no start again, turns out mechanically it's fine, some computer in it is jacked and it took the shop forever and multiple visits to figure it out. Give me straight mechanical anything any day.
@@jono.pom-downunder Initially, the technology is set so that it can be overridden, but once proven, that may change. So, initially that will be a major inconvenience, rather than a large risk. They use not just the road signs, but satnav data too, and we've probably all experienced times when that data is incorrect. There's a road near me that runs parallel to a motorway, at times within about 20metres. I have experienced several vehicles that will confuse the speed limits between those roads, allowing 70mph on the 40mph road, and some demanding a 40mph limit on the motorway. Imagine your car suddenly losing 30mph, ahead of a truck with 'better' speed recognition. Here in the UK, many side roads with lower limits than the main road, will have their limit signs angled towards the main road, for better visibility. Currently, many cars with road sign recognition will wrongly report a speed limit change when passing such roads. Once tied to the limiter, collisions will occur.
I drive a 2023 KIa. The built in map recognizes school zones which are 40 kph at certain times during school terms. Unfortunately, the car can not differentiate when it is not a school zone. It will let you know when you are 20 kph faster than the school zone limit - even out of school zone times like weekend and public holidays or early in the morning and late at night.
Over 20 years ago, I saw an airport passenger van near LAX with a magnetic number sign on its roof. It was the type of sign service centers at car dealers would put on the roofs of cars to keep track of them. When I mentioned it to the driver he told me his company had installed some newfangled GPS tracking device on its vans. The magnetic base of the number sign would disrupt the signal when it was placed over the GPS antenna.
Batteries are not a simple component either. The battery is a complex system built out of many thousands of cells. One cell failing can kill the whole battery, potentially catastrophically.
The JD Powers numbers match very closely with Consumer Reports which reported 79% higher repair rates for EV's (over ICE cars) and 29% higher for plug in hybrids while standard Hybrids were 29% less than ICE.
Tesla introduced 'structural battery pack' to the industry, that is basically totally non-repairable. The battery cells are covered with epoxy foam, that has to be chiseled out order to recover the battery cells. Includes at least all Tesla's 4680 batteries. So an uder $1 000 repair is now from $20 000 up.
It is a crime, what Tesla has done with their battery packs. I'm neither here nor there when it comes to fuelling a vehicle, it's horse for courses. But when you have to replace a $20k component because a $10 component has failed, that is abysmal engineering, and quite frankly, it's morally repugnant.
The structural battery packs are currently only used in the US made Model Y and Cybertruck. The majority of the battery packs are still of the standard design.
Elon Musk once said a big issue that very good engineers have is falling into a tendency to over improve and refine something that shouldn’t actually even exist in the first place. Interesting that he says that. Tesla??
The best part is the added layers of complication and extra points of failure when recharging (and Lord help you if you use a public charger). To charge a vehicle from a public charger the 1) charger must be working, 2) your phone must be charged and 3) have connection, and 4) your bank's app must also be working and 5) the car's charging set-up must be working. To "charge" with liquid fuels, the 1) pump must be working...that's it. No internet connection, no apps, just electricity running a pump with a rubber hose and a user-operated mechanical valve, the same basic tech that's worked for (if you want to go back far enough) thousands of years.
To use a Supercharger, you plug it in. That's all. Charging starts within a few seconds No need for a phone or anything else. The navigation system will tell you how many chargers are available and working at your next stop. If the location is too busy, you may be rerouted to another one. Superchargers are very reliable and all manufacturers are switching to the North American Charging Standard (NACS) that it uses.
As the author of this video points out the so-called simplicity of the BEV is a myth. Just the traction battery itself is a complex machine made of between 4k-8k individual battery cells all welded together. Furthermore liquid cooling channels pass throughout the battery pack for thermal management; the whole thing is held together in a block of thermal paste. And to achieve this the vehicle is festooned with a complex system of heat pumps and associated plumbing. Oh and by the way if it's a Tesla it also comes with a conventional car battery that by all accounts is nearly impossible to reach in the event that it dies. To anyone thinking about buying a BEV - remember this - CAVEAT EMPTOR.
I like the blind spot monitoring and back up camera on my ICE V6 Camaro, but also have knobs. I also got 31 mpg on a road trip recently. I think this is a good example of a little tech and a great ICE at work. Very grateful!
I wouldn’t say that you need to be a computer geek to operate an iPhone or IPad. The fact is that EVs are exponentially simpler to drive and require you to understand the basic principle of a touchscreen.
These touchscreens should be banned in both ICE and EV. You cannot use a smartphone mounted in your dash as it is dangerous to do so. All manufacturers should be mandated to black out the screen while the vehicle is in any other setting than being parked with handbrake engaged.
@Acemeistre EVs don't have multi-gear transmissions because an electric motor can produce 100 percent of its torque at zero rpm - it has a single gear ratio
youd think as high tech as Tesla likes to be that they dont offer a HUD so you dont have to take your eyes off the road, instaed they put the display even FARTHER out of your field of view.
....and inverters, converters, modules, gear cases, several cooling systems, battery management systems, charger, heat pump or electric heater and air compressor for HVAC system, electric steering, braking systems, camera systems, connectivity systems (internet) and so on.... LOL Simpler my butt!! LOL ....Then the software to manage it all....
I have a 2019 Chevy Bolt with 66k miles on it. The drive bat was replaced per recall at no charge at 59k. I have put 12,000 problem free miles on no check engine lights. It is like a cell phone always needs charging but I charge at home so it's a pain bur doable. I had a first Gen Leaf 2015 as first EV, what a joke that was 75 mile range sold it after 6 months. It is ONLY good for local driving to the airport 75 miles round trip & local shopping. I have a 2001 Crown Vic P71 for road trips with 68k on the clock that car is built like a tank will outlast me. It's not that pretty but Very Functional . The EV fad is over public charging is a Joke most chargers are broken or missing cable and public charging is more expensive per mile then IC cars.
0:22 The simple electric vehicles were first generation trams, just switches on a cam, resistors, and a pair of motors that can also be switched between series & parallel. Some earlier examples didn't even use air brakes, they just had manual hand operated brakes like Manchester Corporation 765. (Which was built in 1914 and still works in 2024, despite also serving part of it's life as a garden shed). Another notable example is Hiroshima 651 (Built 1942) which was a few streets away from the epicentre of the blast in 1945 (the one from the famous wrecked tram photo) but managed to survive and still runs on certain occasions today. A modern car probably wouldn't survive even if it was outside the blast radius because the EM pulse would wreck the electronics.
Seems like history is repeating itself. In the beginning there were electric cars, around 1910-11. They were much less complicated than the then petrol powered cars, easier to drive, but, suffered all the same limitations we still see now. Limited range, slow and difficult to recharge and not cheap to buy. Then along came the Model T Ford, and it was game over for the electric car. More than 100 years later, here we go again, except the Model T Ford and its equivalents are already in place and running very well.The EV second coming has passed, the outcomes remain unchanged, we are on our way back to stuff that just works. All we need to do now is figure out where to dig the hole to bury a zillion dead EVs.
I drive a citroen 2cv devoid of complicated electronics and gadgets. The car has been on the road for 46 years and still running. Doubt EVs will have similar lifespan.
Your EV is an incredibly complex network of software modules and hardware components, built to work seamlessly together based on a specific set of software versions and component revision levels. As time passes its going to get extremely difficult to obtain support for older hardware and software as manufacturers focus their resources on current products. If you install components with different revision levels and start patching individual software modules, any hope that the entire network will work seamlessly gets problematic. Many older EV's are going to be simply unmaintainable, which is an environmental and economic disaster.
Ha. This 100%. The best bit of this whole video is when he said that EV owners need to take their eyes off the road to check their speed and that ICE owners don’t have to do that. It’s maddening.
@@Ronick-Q-46 he once did a video about someone having a wheel fall of a new Tesla in Cambridge UK - a story that was taken down a few days later for being complete fiction. He did a video about Volvo sales being really down year on year. And that was totally untrue. And he says in this video that an EV driver has to take his eyes off the road to check speed. Implying that this is a problem specific to EVs. He loves to misinform his audience repeatedly. But to be fair, it must be hard to produce this many inaccurate and misleading videos.
As its mostly a software issue this can be done remotely. With ICE however this isnt the case, you're inconvenienced and have to take the vehicle to a garage. MGUY really thought this one through 🤣
Mguy is the type of person who would do a video of Tesla recalls not make it clear that it’s a software update. ‘Such is the Tesla centred iPad, you need to take your eyes off the road to check your speed’. Because ICE cars speedometer are of course located on the road 🤣🤣 the guys credibility is just tanking at an alarming rate with the rubbish he is coming out with.
Have none of these EVangelists never had an update on their phones or laptops go wrong before? Their disposable cars are just big, heavy, explosive phones on wheels.
If they don’t want us to look at phones while driving, how easy is it to automatically find a function you need on the ev touchscreens? All my life my hands have been able to find the shift, the radio volume, headlight adjustments, windshield wipers, and the turn signal all without taking my eyes off the road.
The problem with software is that it's soft. When software is really well thought out and debugged, it becomes hardware, that is most often a dedicated chip that does certain functions perfectly. With software, nobody really knows what shortcuts were taken and what fatal flaws were not imagined when designing the logic. Its like the difference between theory and practice: in theory there is no difference, but in practice, there is.
Another thing to consider is that the electronics are never fully powered down every day. I've never had a computer that didn't become more unreliable and glitchy the longer it was left on.
Not just a battery, but thousands of individual batteries connected in series to make cells, which are connected in series to make a battery pack. With one bad connection being all you need to drastically ruin your day.
People don't understand that Tesla uses a tablet computer because it's significantly cheaper than designing and building a proper user interface to operate the car. And it's weird that people who understand it's dangerous to operate a phone while driving will accept using a mobile device to operate the car.
The hilarious thing is electric cars were promised to be cheaper to repair and more reliable because they have so many fewer parts compared to a regular car, but somehow it turned out to be the opposite.
I was having my car serviced at my local franchised dealership so was hanging around while they finished it when one of the salespeople asked me had I driven an EV and had I thought of “upgrading” to an EV, my reply was, no I’ve not driven an EV, have no intention of ever driving an EV and wouldn’t consider having one as a present let alone spending my hard earned money on one.
I find that even regular ICE cars are too reliant upon computers. Give me an old pre computer car that I can easily service and maintain on my own with basic tools. I would love to have my 1965 Dodge Dart back.
I love electric cars personally i think you are all looking at this the wrong way . For every electric charging and breaking down there's more room on the roads for us planet kill petrol and diesel engines So when you see a electric car spending over a hour charging please remember you made the right choice by keeping your petrol and diesel cars 😂
