What Actually Happened at Mount St. Helens? - Dr. Steve Austin 

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G C - thanks for telling of your experiences, it was a day to remember for so many people ! And a lot of people have passed away leaving stories untold !

I climb the North Face in 1971. That part of the mountain exploded out laterally and is gone, scattered over 200 square miles. Entire area north of the mountain was obliterated. The mega landslide was largest in recorded history and covered parts of north side in thousands of feet of debris. Spirit Lake was buried, a new one formed in it's place. Harry Truman at the Spirit Lake Lodge died there and is buried under 1,000 feet of debris.

That's interesting. I've never heard anybody mention what the ash and air smelled like. A burning match...

@J Mireles Now that you mention it I recall reading about that and similar tests not involving wood petrification. I also recall reading of evidence that petroleum oil or coal is being produced at a very fast rate and that it MIGHT not be coming from swamps. I'm not drawing a line in the sand on that particular specific but what I read was interesting enough and credible enough for me to file it away if only partially. In a similar vein, pun intended, a young earth creationist has challenged the Big Bang to debates. What is proved is NOT that the earth was created in six days ,nor in eons but that both hypothesis require faith in something. A good question is what force or power was put on "a nothing" to BANG! create the beginnings of the cosmos? Or if there was a pre-existing something that BANGED! where did it come from. I think these are important questions but meh, what do I know?

@@timhallas4275 "That's because these creation "scientists" just made it up." No, you made _that_ up. "They are paid by religious organizations to tell these stories." Yeah yeah. What about those who _don't_ work for those organisations? "None of these guys could make a decent living as real scientists, because they suck at it." In fact some of them made a living working as "real" scientists, but took a _lower-paying_ job with a creationist organisation because they believe in what this evidence says. And others _still_ make a living working as "real" scientists. You have no idea what you are talking about.

@@timhallas4275 Rude. You don't know his qualifications. Stop.

@@timhallas4275 That confuses me. Not the individual parts of your statement but the implication of the whole. So you're saying that the trees in the bottom of the lake are not petrifying in 40 years? That would seem be a foolish thing to say because of the ease in disproving it. I do not recall that tidbit being in the video only that I have heard or more likely read it given as fact. You might admit the comment of "real scientists" is a cheap shot given that science today often ignores repeatability and some theories become fact by vote. That's not the paradigm of the scientific model. Consensus may be a more accurate way to say that.

@@timhallas4275 You evolutionist and your conspiracy theories ! We don't need Mount St Helens to disprove your theory, science does that just fine !

@@timhallas4275 *FIVE undeniable facts* Abiogenesis is totally impossible ! Life is far to complicated to be formed by accident ! even if it did form "accidentally" what would it eat, how would it know it needed to eat, how would it have the ability to eat ! it would be the first life form ever ! How would it have developed those properties ! Please don't wast my time with that franken-life altering existing life, and calling it new life ! Or that dead stuff experiment, forming lifeless amino acids ! *your theory can't even get to evolution ! *continued !

My oldest son was born May 18, 1981 one year after the eruption. I was in Yakima about 50 miles from Mt Saint Helen's on that fateful day. I felt the earthquake, then a short time later heard the explosion of the lateral eruption. Within 30 minutes the ash starting falling. Day turned into night and we didn't see the sky until the next day. The eruption changed us in profound ways.

@@fitnesslk Actually I left the flock about 10 years ago and moved to Judaism. Thanks for caring.

@@SJR_Media_Group might I ask why you left?

@@lionztime I moved to Seattle but have since moved back to Yakima.

@@SJR_Media_Group I was meaning why you left Christianity

@Darth Quantum in case you hsvmt noticed alot of history that was taught has been proven now as wrong. History is fluid and constantly changes with the advancement of knowledge.

More and more as we gain knowledge the gap between science and the Scriptures in the Bible come closer.

@JESSE B You don't recognize sarcasm?

@Darth Quantum and none so primitive as call themselves Darth Quatum.

@tsimahei "Given all the science in the Bible" - lol like water turning into wine, or walking on water....science has proved those, right? Gimme a f^cking break. " Where I once held blind faith in evo, today I know it's a collection of guesses" - sigh....sorry but there's no 'guesses' in evolution....in fact science KEEPS OBSERVING it, happening in millions of species, time and time again (said species keep proving it again and again, all these hundreds of years after Darwin first 'discovered' it). And not just in paleontology, but in genetics, geology, etc.

Be careful what you wish for!

Yellowstone has been quite active lately. Over a thousand earthquakes last month alone. You may get your wish.

Don’t worry you will get another chance soon enough…

So amazed how the whole side just evaporated

Just inmage if mount st Helen was a supervol

My best friend in high school; moved to a town near Mt. St Helens about 6 months before it erupted. They automatically "graduated" every one in her senior class. She was pretty happy about that early graduation gift. Her parent's = not so much. It could have been much worse; more people could have died. Thankfully there weren't too many towns around Mt. St. Helens back in the late 1970's and into 1980.

This was filmed in 2017 & earlier.

You must have seen the plume very very interesting It looks like beautiful country did you go to spirit lake on your hike? the side of the volcano bulged out at a rate of 5ft a day for a month before - And yet people still tried to get close to see I had just finished an undergraduate degree in geology in Cape Town when it happened but was not interested enough in the topic to understand the importance of this event

@@timhallas4275 my guy look at the video isn’t that proof

To God be the glory! His truth echoes around us….

Amen

It's very misleading, though. In a myriad of ways and crossing multiple subjects. I'm not trolling, either Genesis people, so if you delete my comment it's because you just don't like it. But yeah. This video is just chalk full of misleading/outright incorrect claims.

1 year, during The Flood. Amazing, isn't it. 👍🕊️

That is literally the take away from what the Dr was saying. Catastrophic events terra form in seconds, minutes, days or months. Not millions or billions of years. This is definitive and absolute proof of that. This segment is much longer on the dvd. This was only a short snip.

Maybe weeks

@@dennymac4198 No, No, NO! rapid erosion can take place. NOT the same as Grand Canyon.

Sedimentary rocks contain fossils of animals that don’t exist anymore. There’s a difference between sedimentary deposits and volcanic deposits. It’s obvious that erosion can take place rapidly at times, but once you start talking about limestone you have a whole different animal.

Good for you.

Correct. He says that in the extended version on the DVDs.

Which also is why we see so many times that they change their dates for every new discovery in order to make it work with the current timeline. They also get many different results for whatever they are trying to date. Not to mention discoveries of RBC’s/Soft Tissue and Nerves in Dino bone make that whole dating system somewhat irrelevant and not inaccurate.

Isn't it also true that the process of fossilization MUST be rapid?

Correct

When they "radiographically date" a living creature and it shows that it's millions of years old, you know the so-called scientists don't know what they're talking about.

I remember being skeptical of carbon dating even when I was a kid...it seems fundamentally flawed & contrived to me... it's a parlor trick & not even a good one at that

I might be a bit late but check out the seismic seconds episode of the Mt St Helens blast. Really puts into perspective how terrifying it was.

God, right.

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You don't understand; dream of any geologist (or scientist) is to destroy a presupposition. Prove a presupposition wrong and you get famous. Harlen Bretz, who first proposed cataclysmic, ice age floods that came within 40 miles of St. Helens, was greeted with strong skepticism when he presented his findings. He is now featured prominently in pictures and plaques across the Columbia Plateau because he provided evidence to back up his claims, and once other geologists were able to verify the evidence, they accepted a completely new model.

@@charlesbrowniii8398 "Prove a presupposition wrong and you get famous." It depends on the presupposition. One current common presupposition is that science can only provide natural explanations, thereby ruling out explanations involving the supernatural, even if the evidence points that way. *That* presupposition is not allowed to be questioned.

​@@PJRayment Don't try to misdirect with a straw man argument. This video isn't appealing to the supernatural; it's proposing natural causes which, if they had any merit, could be presented to a wider geological community instead of being used to build the confirmation bias of people whose geology education ended in Sunday school.

@@charlesbrowniii8398 I'm not raising a straw man. Yes, it's proposing mostly natural causes, but in doing so would support an event that supports the supernatural, and atheists and other secular scientists can't have that. And this sort of science also convinces other scientists, so you comment about a poor education was simply more denigration.

Yes there have been a few (very few) who have looked at the evidence and began to honor and give GOD the glory that is HIS. YET, I remember what Scripture had to say about Egypt when they refused to let Israel go free. The Lord began to send the plagues upon Egypt. Their "hearts" remained hardened until the last plague when the 1st born of Egypt were killed, and Egypt at last let Israel go free. YET, shortly afterwards their hearts became hard again, and even after all Egypt saw GOD do, they still went headlong into "The Sea" that they saw GOD divide and were never seen again. This hardness of men's hearts still remains today as they "willingly ignore" the evidence and the world will still unite itself to try to stop The Will of God from coming to pass. SADLY they will keep this attitude even until the very end.... Hearts hardened against GOD = insanity.

they were.....even coal was found at the bottom (coal and also stuff that was still partly raw material partially converted to coal) of the deposition mearly a few years after it was all deposited.........the evidence/info is there ya just gotta look for it

I'm still waiting for evolutionists to explain how the complex genetic code came about by sheer coincidence... And yes, there are several explanations for how the separation of different creatures in the sedimentary layers could have come about, you can find enough about this if you look for it.

Better yet how does evolution explain DNA the building blocks of all life. DNA can not just happen it must be created. We are just now discovering this new knowledge and yet to fully understand it. They are so many holes in the evolution theory but because people can't grasp what they can't see they are willing to accept what ever is in front of them even though as knowledge increases so does understanding. This is why having faith is important.

Watch the full 1 hour and 45 minute video, your query is explained there.

umm how is that a problem?

Glad you enjoyed it!

I wasn't expecting a Primus reference in these comments, but here you are! ;)

Very solid chance. Yes.

Barry PURKIS so you’re happy with the previous “proof” for the formation of the Grand Canyon based on very little information that, if the same “logic” were used in looking at the existing conditions at Mount Saint Helens, it would be assumed to have occurred over millions of years? I don’t believe your analogy of your lack of understanding as a child has anything to do with this. If anything, your childhood “misunderstanding” applies more to the theories regarding the Grand Canyon formation - but Mount Saint Helens was observed, not hypothesized.

@@PrideofIpplepen My point was that a short term observation , without all of the evidence , will result in a faulty conclusion. Just because brand new debris from a volcanic eruption acts in an observed manner does not mean that hard sandstone and other rocks will behave in the same way. There has been considerable research, and observation , of erosion in action, not only in brand new ash deposits and soft muds, but also in the whole range of rocks available. Why would anyone assume that 'logic' would find that the Mount St Helens debris field was anything other than what it is? Even a quick search of the area would reveal the simple fact that the flora of the area is all very young, indicating that something has changed in the area very recently, leading to further investigation. and so on.

@@solentbum So, we throw out what we actually have observed, and go with the popular hypothesis that has even less evidence for it occurring? The sedimentary layers of the Grand Canyon shows signs of being catastrophic deposition, similar to what happened with Mt. St. Helen's. This is further supported by a lack of erosion between the layers on a large scale, plus the uniform the deposition of the layers over a wide area. Why dismiss this to go with the hypothesis that it happened through slow deposition, where there is little evidence for it?

they just barely got into it but as a geologist who has been there and studied the area they arent incorrect in ANYTHING they stated.....the info your looking for is out there just gotta go look fo it.... many articles in scientific journals have been written

They showed a picture of the pyroclastic flow which occurred in June....

Yep, cuz that's definitely how and why this happened. 🤦‍♀️

Timmy timmy timmy, insanity is the expectancy of doing the same thing over and over again thinking there will be different results than the ones observed. Here is evidence that is completely opposite as to how certain geological formations happen and you still think this is the result of millions or billions of years. Poor thing timmy

@@timhallas4275 Mt. St. Helens eruption was *observed by human eyes* to see that catastrophic events happen quickly, and then could've been interpreted by people who were not there to witness it (for example sake) and had been taught "millions of years," as if the layers of sediment formed over long periods of time, which they did not; they laid down in only days and weeks. When trees sunk to the bottom of the lake and got buried [vertically] inside the sediment layers, *just like we see logs embedded [vertically] inside deep layers of rock today!* Evolutionist fantasy tries to claim that happened over "millions of years." Then evolutionists say the sediment at Mt. St. Helens "is not rock", which we obviously know! *Drain the water out today, dehydrate that sediment and put it under immense pressure and it'll become rock in little time,* far less time than "millions of years." Scientists have already made coal, diamonds and other such things in laboratories, thus proving long periods of time *is not needed,* only the specific conditions. The river seen running down Mt. St. Helens *after* the *catastrophic event* happened, proves that the river *DID NOT* "carve" away over long periods of time, as the evolutionists would theorize if we did not witness this *catastrophic event* happen in 1980! Mt. St. Helens eruption proved that 'catastrophism' truly is science, and the *catastrophic* worldwide flood, written of in the bible, is certainly the scientific explanation for why we see shells and remnants of other sea life on top of mountains today; why we see millions of bones from animals (even some giving birth at the time) and humans embedded inside rock; why we see human technology ("OOPArt") embedded inside rock today. Why we've found whale bones in the deserts, and so on. Evolutionism is anti-science. Science backs the bible here. The "millions of years" came about by atheists who had to go *against* the timeline of the bible. It did not come about by observation (obviously). So they pushed this fantasy solely to go against the bible. How anyone would trust a group of people coming up with a "theory" solely based upon attacking the bible is beyond logical comprehension to me. That shows the atheists were not being scientific, only emotional and extremely biased against the truth back then. Now this fantasy of "millions of years" is pushed as if it's "scientific" today in school textbooks, sadly. Such a brainwashing they push on vulnerable young minds in schools today.

Yet, they love to go back to the lies and be mesmerized by those lies. It's like a pig going back to the mud or a dog going back to its vomit

Darth Quantum - Why not? You don’t talk about the aging and formation of rocks and such?

​@@ConciseCabbageidk. Geology is *far* more complex and intricate than what's in this video. And of course the claims are misleading at best/completely incorrect at worst.

Stehekin is my favorite place on earth. 💖

So they are wrong.

@@TheMickeymental Where'd the water go? And where did it come from?

@@keith6706 Read the biblical account and it will tell you exactly what you need.

@@TheMickeymental Which version? The Biblical version or the one it ripped off, the older Sumerian version? And while we're on that subject, were Egyptian pyramids built before or after the Flood? And if after, how long after?

@@keith6706 I see you have mistaken the finding of stone tablets to precede the Genesis account for pejorative reasoning. You are about eight hundred years in error regarding the flood of Gilgamesh and the complete account was not found until the mid-nineteenth century. I think that is called post hoc ergo propter hoc, maybe. There is much more veracity in the Hebrew account given their oral traditions. What happened to the Sumerian culture? Oh yes, it does not exist anymore. Read the real Holy Bible, but you never were interested in having your questions answered. You only wanted a foothold to state your dogma. How did life originate from chemicals? It did not; meaning your beliefs are based upon lies. Try again

Yeah the terms they're using aren't technical (and sometimes aren't even science at all), so there's no way to make them easier to understand.

were u there?

I was 10yrs old when this happened. It knocked me out of bed. I lived in Burnaby, BC. Our house was covered in ash

@@laurabailey2092 time passes by fast ... to fast :( I kinda missed going outside with friends (don't get me wrong I love my PS4 but I still miss going outside lol)

Ask him if he knew how his words would be used, you are making a statement as if it is fact while you have 'no' facts to back it up. You also say the effects of Mt St Helen on the local topology is no proof of young earth theories, maybe so. Maybe you are wrong too. In Science is the proof suppose to come 'before' the theory? Or is the theory to come from looking at the information and giving your best guess then attempt to disprove your theory? I do not recall anyone saying 'this proves the Earth is Young', I recall them saying it is influencing their perceptive about the other areas of earth's geology. Isn't this a work in progress? Are you old enough to remember when everyone 'knew' the continents are absolutely stationary. They 'knew' there was no such thing as continental drift, then some fool came up with the theory and scientist claimed 'there was no proof'. I am not saying these guys are correct, but if you are so closed minded you cannot listen to apposing theories and the attempts to 'prove' them I'd suggest you are as helpful to society as Christians who are so closed minded they cannot see same sex marriage as just as valid as traditional marriage. I am questioning your ability to be convinced so easily, it almost seems that you have a theory yet are unwilling to disprove it. In short, I am saying you seem to be projecting 'your' bias upon your announcements.

Huge geologic change can happen very quickly (as you acknowledge). You're right when you say it's not proof of any young earth theories. However, it certainly reveals that millions of years are not needed to explain natural geologic formations (eg, the Grand Canyon) when it was once assumed that only millions of years of slow change would produce such formations..

@@vitaquasus1120 That is why I chose to state that I am fully convinced, which is a statement of personal belief that does not offer concrete proof.

@@croakingfrog3173 Much like some formations out West that are believed to have been carved out when enormous ice dams further East breached multiple times. I still see no real evidence of any of this "Young Earth" stuff. It is an agenda based upon what I believe to be an outlandish theory looking for supporting evidence while disregarding anything that might prove contradictory to its goals, much like the Flat Earth movement in my opinion.

When you have a chance; start watching some of the current scientific findings that point to a direct "creation design by God". More and more scientists, geologists and astronomers are finding facts and 100% proof that everything has been designed and created by God alone. And we are talking about non biased scientists who tend to be atheists. Some are Christians; but most of them have been atheists. The truth is OUT THERE; and now easy to research right here on RU-vid and other scientific based web sites. Incredible discoveries are being made now. Research: Exodus decoded. There are several videos here on RU-vid.

"So the bare-bones basic argument seems to be, "This volcano made these geologic formations very quickly, therefore everything else was also formed very quickly." " No, that's not the argument. The argument is, This volcano made these geologic formations very quickly, therefore we have to reconsider whether other, similar, formations were really formed slowly as mainstream science claims. "This whole thing only really proves that the same or very similar geologic processes can occur on vastly different time scales." It proves that it _can_ happen quickly. It doesn't prove that it can happen slowly. And it has never been observed happening slowly. "Just because it happened quickly there does not mean it MUST have also happened quickly everywhere." True. But that it happened quickly here means that you can't argue that it happened slowly everywhere else. Therefore you can't argue that lots of time was _necessarily_ involved, and therefore you can't argue that it (necessarily) takes longer than the biblical timescale allows.

@@PJRayment they won't ever want to get it until they believe in God.

@tsimahei if more people could see his math and scientific data, methods they'd see that the scholastic atheists of today are leading people astray on purpose after over 5k yrs of belief. Satan runs media. Hey God bless you and yours.

@@ourlifeinwashington4114 nope atheist don't accept God because they strawman at him, ironic since so many of them say "I grew up and educated myself" and their favorite words are "strawman" "logic fallasy"

Doubtless, if one could reach them.

sometimes fossles become oil by bring crushed maybe there is but in the form of liquid

Snowcap melted instantly! That's a foreshadowing of how fast God can restructure this planer.

@@southtownj382 yes, sure, but i am also trying to get a sense of how much water is underground.

Gotcha! Sorry I am interested.

@@southtownj382 oh, no apology needed.god bless you.

yes because all the same things are present at both

Lol....nope. Grand Canyon is not made up of loose volcanic dust. Wowza. It would of disappeared in a life time.. lake mead would of been full of silt in one season, etc.

@@gordybishop2375 The Grand canyon was made by series of huge mudslides caused by a gigantic flood ! This flood was so massive, It caused a lake the size of lake Michigan high in the mountains, It drained out in a very short period of time ! It drains so fast it actually caused explosive erosion ! What a huge air bubble gets cut under the water, and then very suddenly escapes! That space has to be taken up by water, causing it to come crashing down with huge amounts of force !

@@gordybishop2375 The flood also caused huge salt flats, were ocean water got landlocked, and then evaporated ! The salt flat in South America is absolutely huge, and high altitude, there is not enough land mass, to account for that much salt, at that altitude !

Yes it WAS that much land mass.... And land rises....like say...the mountains around it. This all did not happen a a few thousand years. It took millions and billions. To first make the hard layers, then to erode them away.

Oh yes it is!!