Yes exactly. She totally glossed over the fact that she HAS NO ALIBI. Even cell phone records prove that her last alibi is wrong. When Patrik texted her she was connected to a cell tower outside of Raffaele's house that couldn't be reached from his home, proving she was outside that night. Also she said she had dinner at 10 and later moved it to 11 for a longer alibi and her boyfriend doesn't even support this. He received a call from his father at 9:43 and told him he had just finished dinner and was washing up when the pipe burst. Which means Amanda didn't have dinner with him at 11. Also the Harry Potter book she said she read to Raffaele the night of the murder turned up the next day at the crime scene, not at her bf's house. How does that happen. Did she bring it back with her when she was only coming back to take a quick shower or did she lie about reading it the night before? Not to mention, why was her lamp in Meredith's room when she admitted Meredith hadn't borrowed it? I can go on and on...the evidence is against her is staggering. I didn't even talk about the hard evidence. Anyway it seems to me that she is definitely hiding something. Whatever she's hiding must be so great that she would risk 30 years in prison to keep it secret. That means it's either something to do with the murder (which it probably is because of her blood mixed with Meredith's etc, I won't even go into that right now) or it's something equally bad that she would risk 30 years in prison not to tell it.
He's a drug dealer known to police for 1 thing but the week before Merediths murder he broke into a nursery school but was caught when the owner showed up off hours with workmen, they held him for police who checked his backpack, found a large knife he'd taken from schools kitchen and a backpack and cellphone stolen from a local law office, both these businesses had been broken into by coming in thru an elevated window broken with a rock same as at Merediths.
Yes, its amazing how the guilters don't think Guede, a man with a criminal past, is capable of lying, yet they revel in slandering 2 college kids with no criminal history.
@@Molego2011 in a British documentary there is evidence that she left the murder escene with two men , there is blurry footage of a woman with short hair like Amanda wandering around near the highway of via de la pergola that night. She may not be the one who stucked the knife but hell yes, she was there and she knows a lot. When they were interrogated, she and sollecito changed their versions multiple times, that is a big red flag. An innocent person would never change their version under any circumstances no matter what happens.
The point that she and her BF keeps changing their statements is indeed a red flag..N moreover, u cannot see shock or sadness in her eyes after seeing her flat mate being brutally murdered.. instead was caught kissing with her bf..who does that??
Its all such a shambles and Knox's book "Waiting to be Heard" highlights the 2 totally different accounts Amanda Knox gave of that night - in itself confusing - regardless of pressure from police interviewers , as the accounts are so very different. Unless she was unbalanced anyhow that is. The book "Meredith" by her dad John Kercher is a must read and certainly Meredith Kercher the student from Leeds, where I was living at the time, should always be remembered more so than the perpetrator(s) whoever they are . Meredith was innocent and she was murdered regardless of the mayhem in courts, and confusing accounts of accused That fact is the only one that's not confusing it seems. People seem obsessed with Knox and conveniently forget Meredith.
Knox was innocent as well and anytime someone is falsely accused and imprisoned they become victims too, that's not to take away what happened to Ms. Kercher, but the fact she and her family got such limited justice is the fault of the Italian Justice Department and not Knox. I won't read John Kercher book, I've read many reviews and it seems while he had a perfect opportunity to dedicate the entire book to Meredith and how her brutal murder affected his family, he chose to use half the book to slander Knox with many lies.
Exactly but he had to do that to sell his book because like it or not, no one would read an entire book about a girl who was murdered. People are more interested in who murdered her and since they decidedKnox was such an interesting subject she had to take the hit. Mr. Kercher knows full well what he was doing@@nancyparks9934
I'm glad at least one news channel can be slightly journalistic and half have the balls to admit that the American media is promoting amanda knox because there is $$$ in it.
Yup. As soon as the murderers go away for life, the money pot dries up. Getting them sprung sells TONS of ads and papers. "Exonerated them all !!!" Cries the US media.
I like this Barbie Nadeau's perspective. Need to read her book about the Amanda Knox case. I've always felt American media was getting a sanitized version of what Knox did. I'll read Knox's book, too for balance.
+My Window On The World Well, Knox is a proven liar. Recently, she has been indicted again for having contradicted her statements in court in her book. I think it is sick that Knox is profiting from her crime. What she says in her book, its NOT what she testified in court. I would recommend you read Judge Nencini Motivation Report, it is on line. It has been translated into English and its free. Why line the pockets of a convicted murderer who has been found guilty of murder TWICE ?
The US doesn't give a sanitized version of anything. The early reports seemed to go by what was being said in Europe and leaned very much towards guilt, later the independent experts started dispelling the evidence, the videos were released showing how inept the investigators were collecting evidence, we find out Knox was denied an attorney during an illegally unrecorded interrogation, a book was written based on her personal diaries that were stolen from the prison and there is so much more, the US is more likely to tell the entire version instead of the one sided version told in much of Europe.
***** You are so carried away with that PR thing, They hired 1 person from a PR Company to counter the lies,Mignini was leaking to the press and to deal with the press. The US media is pretty independent and not going to be persuaded by a PR firm, as a matter of fact, the 1st year after the murder the headlines seemed to be guilty as charged, that didn't change until the independent experts started coming forward then we learned how corrupt Italy's judicial system is, in Europe they are 2nd to Turkey in civil rights violations.
Indeed. The case is based not only on DNA evidence but also on cellphone evidence and computer records and further yet on multiple and contradicting versions of what happened that night from the mouths of the accused, not to mention the false accusation of an innocent man for the murder, causing his incarceration, or that Knox admitted on at least three occasions that she was at the murder scene.
I'm listening to the audiobook version of Knox's book and she does sound very sincere and articulate in it. She sounds like an innocent person wrongfully accused alright.
@@cleangreen2210 You're right... she did confess, but it was done under duress, which she recanted several minutes later, after having some time to regain her thoughts. The police didn't care about the recantation, since they had what they wanted. Innocent until proven guilty is the rule, here, in the US, but guilty until proven innocent is the way it works in Italy.
This has to be one of the lamest "interviews" I've ever seen. Nadeau spent 3.5 minutes answering a whopping 3 questions and said absolutely nothing of substance in the process. She stated Knox's "PR" firm didn't provide Americans with all the information - LIKE WHAT, Barbie? She gives not one coherent example. She says Americans didn't "understand" that Italy's criminal justice system happens to be slow...give me a break. Like we're so used to one that works at breakneck speed here.
BTW they have on film these "highly trained" investigators not using international rules for gathering evidence by not wearing hairnets and face masks, not using disposable tools (using 1 tool for picking up more than one piece of evidence which can cause contamination).
Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito are innocent. They were exonerated. No DNA evidence linked them to the murder of Meredith Kercher. Stop maligning them. 👎☹😡
Barbie wouldn't know she hasn't read the book. Say Barbie what were you doing that night? Don't gloss over it. Also when did you Barbie interview Amanda. In her book Barbie her lawyers told her she would loose the first trial because the media could't handle anything different. Why's that? Where were you as an American standing up for judicial rights? You are the prosecutions PR.
Yes, I love that one as well. They call Amanda a liar, yet they believe her confession. Wonderful logic. The police arrested Lumumba on the strength of the confession, and then realize he was innocent. But hey, they still believe the rest of the confession, right? That's using very selective confirmation bias for their own convenience. I've always maintained that everything hinged on the appropriateness of the initial police response. It saddens me that the focus has never been on that.
If you take into account the evidence against Rudy Guede, the absence of either motive or physical evidence linking Amanda Knox to the murder, the numerous documented police errors, you will see that this girl got the worst deal ever. Karma is making it up to her with a $4 million book deal.
In his prison diary, Raffaelle wrote that he had pricked Meredith with the knife while they were cooking at his apartment. According to Amanda, Meredith had never even been to the apartment.
Highly trained professionals that interviewed her for hours without filming it (which protects the integrity of the interrogation), highly trained professionals that didn't pick up some of the evidence for 40 days letting it be contaminated. Yet I haven't heard 1 word about defensive wounds or if scrapings were taken from Merediths nails which often has the killers DNA under them. She will likely be found not guilty because you can't uncontaminate evidence you let get contaminated cont
Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito are innocent. They were exonerated. No DNA evidence linked them to the murder of Meredith Kercher. Stop maligning them!👎☹😡
She lied several times. An innocent person does not do that. She blamed Her boss, then said no it wasn't him.... She tried to get the blame off her. I personally don't think she killed her, but I think her and her boyfriend were there and she saw/heard it happen. Also, anyone remember when she said she heard Meridith being murdered?! Come on! You don't say that when your under interrogation.
My guess would be that the 'inconsistent' statements (which only prove some sort of confusion; they don't prove lying, much less prove guilt) were partly due to the language barrier -- that's significant, especially under stress -- and then that Knox and Sollecito were probably reluctant to talk freely about their pot smoking and sex to a bunch of hostile, conservative Italian cops. Many people seem to confuse their personal dislike of Knox's character with suspicion. This woman seems very vindictive.
There was a time I would love to have visited Italy but have no desire to visit a Country with a corrupt court system with corrupt police...thanks anyway.
I f one only considers Knox/Solcietto first statements and those of witnesses this is the story. Knox and Sol. originally said Knox left Sol. apartment at approx 1030pm the previous night and didn't return until 130AM next morning. At 730am, that morning she was seen in the grocery store nearby to HER apartment. She claims to have remained with Sol until 1030am. Knox arrived at her apartment to find the front door open, blood stains on the hall floor and on the bathroom's bathmat. She took a shower and used the mat. When police did arrive later, she dissuaded them from opening Merediths door, which was locked, by saying it was normal for M to lock it. when her friend Philomenia arrived, P told police that M NEVER locked her door and encouraged them to break it open. The body was discovered at that point.
Where did you get the information? You seem to have the times and days confused. She did not leave Sollecito's apartment the night of the murder. Nor does anyone say she did -- prosecution and defense. The proprietor of the store and his employees disagree as to whether she was at his place the morning after. He had two opportunities to recall that shortly after the crime. He declined to do so. It was only after the police realize they were having trouble with evidence that he suddenly recalled, but then had trouble describing her. His employees -- unlike him -- never changed their stories. . It is illogical that she -- murderer or not -- would benefit from a delay in finding the body. .
Where? Her statements. In her first interviews she admitted to leaving the apartment at 1030pm and returning at 130am and then remaining there until 1030am. The shop owner changed his story after a visit from knox's attorney. As for the lack of logic, how logical was it to claim the victims BR door was frequently locked so the cops shouldn't try to get in (after seeing the blood in the bath)? Why not stand aside and let them do their investigation? Why? Guilt...
Actually, the shop owner was looking for his 15 minutes of fame and responded to a local reporter's question that he had seen her. The police on two occasions interviewed him and he denied seeing her. His clerks did not back up his story. Just one of the dirty elements of the police-prosecution work on this case. I see where you got the admission of her leaving the apartment. The police wrote up the illegal statement which said she heard the murder as it was taking place. So, logically they had to include she left where she was to witness the murder. You like the other version better. Your man, Mignini, did not. He ignored it in formulating his various versions of what took place. Did Mignini screw up? Speaking of illogic, you do understand that the murder was about to be discovered. Right? What could anyone do to stop that from happening?
John Butler Actually Nencini has upheld the witness statements from shopkeepers. What is it about Amanda that makes you think Italy, its 2 police forces and their staff ie translator and judicial system + multiple witnesses and an entire internationally renowned crime lab and the citizens of Perugia are all going to combine to falsely implicate her? She must have been hated by the whole country the moment she set foot on its soil! No one hates Amanda, she has no significance to anyone except her dysfunctional family and thosde being paid to spout the story she has poorly constructed, they hate that a brutal killer is walking free!
What "has been left out of" Barbie Latza Nadeau's introduction is that she has called Knox a killer in her book on the subject, even in the title of the first edition. It's fine she has an opinion on the case, but not fine that she has a commercial interest in the outcome of the case that was "glossed over" in her intro. She's even working on a movie based on her book -- yet another conflict of interest. Can we not expect those purporting to be objective observers of the case to be objective observers?
If she was a black woman, she would have been convicted and sentenced to life in prison no parole! Plain and simple! Her black ass would have rotten and you all would be saying 'You did the crime you should do the time!'
Exactly.........the US has got this hollywood image fixation. Notice how Knox singled out a black man for the frame up?..........coz she knew he would get the rap for the crime.
Truth is it was BLACK guy who were there, i mean Rudy Guede. Evidence against Amanda or Raffaelo: ZERO. Still they're hunting WHITE woman and WHITE man, trying to get them 25-30 years sentences while the obvious guilty one BLACK Rudy Guede got only 16 years. Man, you blacks always have to come whining everywhere even when it has nothing to do with you. Main reason why so many blacks are in prison is simply because they're guilty. End of story.
Why can no one make an argument for guilt without obsessing about her Americanness, her whiteness, her prettiness or her femaleness? scrmepal Holly K Note
What ia said is common knowledge and a well known fact! The black man took the fall for her and he is in prison for life! She was involved! She should get the same treatment. Plain and simple.
Well done CNN. Italian speaker and diligent trial court attendee Barbie Nadeau was 100% correct. Knox has been repeatedly vague as to what is in "her" book. The writing was taken out of her hands. For those drawn to "her" highly fictional version (on TJMK we counted over 500 lies, plus the framing of Dr Mignini for forcing a confession when he was actually absent in bed) this array might let readers back down gently. (1) Knox never a well-funded and supervised exchange student; (2) Knox shacking up with her drug dealer; (3) Sollecito & Knox incessantly fighting from time of arrest; (4) the 2007-08 pro-bail hearing failures, (5) the huge body of evidence at trial that took 8 months to collect; (6) the prosecution’s major success of a unanimous verdict; (7) the obviously despondent defense’s obvious failures, such as Rudy as Lone Wolf; (8) the interrogation hoax and 34 other hoaxes; (9) the bending and then annulling of the Hellman appeal court; (10) Knox being found guilty of criminal defamation by all courts; (11) even a bent Supreme Court chamber confirming strong proof of Knox at the murder scene, and (12) Knox not ever being exonerated or ever suing for wrongful imprisonment.
I think the world should get over the fact whether this girl is American or not and focus on proving the truth. The truth that is very clear that Amanda Knox, from the beginning has on her own changed her story around, blamed different black men, used her Harry potter as an escape from her evil doings. This sick girl has never shown remorse, empathy, or even has fully talked about Meredith as a person. I've never have even heard her aplogize to Meredith family for wat they are going through. Look at how empty Amanda's cries are when talking about this murder. Who in the world jokes, makes, faces, and does yoga after their room mate is murdered. The room mate she claims to have been a friend of hers. That's quite a strange way of showinh love for a friend. I believe Amanda killed this real innocent young girl bc she was everything Amanda was not. Smart, pretty, classy, elegant, good family, with a goal to be a journalist. One that now Amanda is a "journalist." I hope that Meredith family can have justice served by all who participated in the assassination of Meredith.
A big part of what Nadeau is saying is that Amanda's story and alibi changed. You have to look at how she was questioned by the police. She was questioned harshly for hours and smacked in the head by them multiple times. She was basically forced to change her story and give a false confession. Remember she was 20 years old at the time and wasn't allowed to have a lawyer present. The police already decided she was the murderer. They just needed to get her to confess and change her story to make them right.
It's sad,because Barbie has had plenty of time to research false confessions to get an answer for Knox's change of story.When you read the research behind false confessions Knox is pretty much a text book case.
"false confession" is when an innocent person says: I did it. "False confession" is NEVER when an innocent person accuses another innocent person. History doesn't even know ANY of that kind of case.Those are all actions of a quilty person. Read A.K confession from wikipedia, they explain it there. When a completely innocent person is being accused, they NEVER point a finger to another innocent person. Learn some facts please.
1974Coconut One fact I considered is that you shouldn't believe everything you read on the net.Anybody who states that innocent people don't ever suggest other people committed the crime is a clear liar.For the simple reason it would be impossible to know every false confession as many are not recorded and many aren't ever found out. Further,Amanda didn't pull Lumumbas name out of thin air.She had sent a text to him saying "see you later".The Italian police took that as she was saying she would meet him later.Knox claims the Italian police were the ones who put Lumumba in her mind,writing their statement which Knox basically signed.They suggested he was there.It is difficult to know exactly what happened because they didn't record it,nor give her a lawyer. Facts are this: None of Knox DNA was in that room,Yet Guedes DNA was in the room,inside Kercher and on Kercher. The supposed knife DNA was not blood and was independently verified as unsafe.The new tests just found Knox DNA which would be expected.However,Guede was arrested for breaking into a nursery and stealing a knife just weeks prior.Moreover,a bloody knife print was found on the bed,from a knife never recovered.Along with a bloody handprint of Guede. Another fact is that Guede was secretly recorded by police talking to a friend.Guede at no point mentioned Knox being there that night.He only changed to say that once he found out Knox was arrested. In short,there is zero evidence that Knox had anything to do with it.
pookster78 Well you shouldn't believe either everything you read from the web. No it is not a lie. This is a scientific fact, go and read some statistics, or criminal psychology. Innocent NEVER blames other innocent, but only them selves when faced with too much pressure or exhaustion. They just admid I did it.They don't "imagine" that their "friend" or "boss" did it and they saw it and they raped her and they are scared of them. LOL! Only small mided would believe that.
1974Coconut Again,it is impossible to know all false confessions,as many won't even have been discovered. Further,she did not imagine it,the police plated that story in her head.The police suggested that she met Lumumba.They suggested she went with him and killed Meredith.They even wrote the story.Knox simply agreed she met him and went to the house but that it must have been him,signing the document.She wrote a letter retracting it just hours later. Paul Hill of the Guilford four confessed to the bombing.Not only that but he implicated Gerry Conlon in the bombing too.Both were innocent.
1974Coconut Central park jogger rape case. They were all innocent and they all implicated each other. West Memphis 3, Jesse implicated himself and two others. Ryan Ferguson, his friend implicated him, and a couple witnesses committed perjury. Interrogations are a game. They trip up the innocent as well as the guilty.
Kind of amazing that Barbie gets the airplay on CNN that she does. When asked what Amanda Knox left out of her book, she said she wished Amanda had explained why her story changed during the interrogation. Um OK. I guess we read a different book because in the version I read she plainly explained both in chronological order, then later in the book, how she was questioned for many hours, under intense pressure from a dozen cops shouting at her in Italian. That's how her story changed. No mystery.
A young girl in a foreign country. They started that interrogation at midnight so that she started tired. I am not against tough interrogations but when the results of that are not factual and in case they were not, it is a very clear sign that the statements were coerced. We have ample examples of this in the USA. For example, Central Park jogger. The (innocent)defendants that "confessed" had non trivial details different. She had 1 alibi - at Raffaele's. name your other two->
i just love how amandas friends and family defend her on youtube specific accounts, parroting the same shit over and over again there is no avoiding justice amanda will get whats coming
She already has in a way. Sentenced to walk this earth for life as a liar, never able to really look another human being, including herself, in the eye again.
FYI not everyone in America thinks she is innocent nor is everyone surprised she got convicted or that her appeal was overturned. There are plenty of Americans who feel she is guilty and are actually surprised she got acquitted. I have talked to so many people about their opinion regarding this case and more people think she is guilty rather than innocent.
amanda is a pathological liar. She says she quit working for Lumumba because "he didn't pay her"!! Truth is, lumumba had to fire her because she refused or couldn't do the work she was supposed to do, instead she was flirting at work. Why lie about this? Only reason: it has something to do with the motive: to take revenge on Meredith, because she was hired to do her job!
RogerGT Oooohh, now I see! Since you are from Usa , you KNOW this fact better than her BOSS; WHO FIRED HER! Of course, of course! Makes sense! And you then naturally were testifying about this matter in italian court too, I assume? a Super witness for Amanda?
RogerGT So where do we need a text message when we have the boss to tell us what he did? I don't say she was fired, HER BOSS SAYS HE HAD TO FIRE HER !!
Countess Romanov do you really believe that revenge over taking a shitty job from which someone was fired is a logical motive for murder? There are millions of people who lose good jobs and could care less about who replaces them. I am not disputing your claim that she lied, I don’t know the facts. But to go from that to claiming that a logical motive for murder is revenge for taking a crappy college student job that you were fired from is a huge leap. And without anything to back it up except ‘because you say so’.
@@tom2314 This is an interesting viewpoint. I'm wondering if she accused her boss because of the firing. Murder is one thing, but I couldn't figure out why she would accuse an innocent person. There is at least motive for the false accusation. Also, how did Guede know Amanda Knox? I read that Guede knew Meredith's boyfriend, but I don't get how he could have even known Amanda.
Barbie is full of crap. Amanda and Raffaele were 100% consistent about what they did the evening of the murder *except* for during the coercive interrogation of 5/6 Nov. Before that and immediately after and to this day their recollection of the evening is consistent. Attempting to make something of inconsistent recollection of specific times or order of events is silly as no one can recall to that level of detail, let alone several days later and during a very stressful situation. Why doesn't Barbie give us her version of a timeline that involves Amanda and Raffaele and not get tripped up by the contradiction 'evidence' thrown together by the prosecution. There's a reason why, even to this day, NO ONE has been able to cite a motive or provide a timeline that stands up to scrutiny.
Justice in the US can be slow too, it takes about 2 yrs for a serious crime to go to trial, sometimes 3 yrs but I have heard that the lower level of the Italian justice system is very corrupt and you really can't deny that corruption is very prevalent in Italy, the prosecutor has been convicted of corruption & the 1st judge is under investigation of corruption. A very large percentage of people are convicted at the lower level to be found innocent on appeal.
This is a true fact only the person whom murdered the young lady and the lord himself know the real deal. I'm not saying amanda is guilty I'm just saying that if you weren't there don't judge. bless the family of the murdered victim. and hopefully where ever amanda knox is she can move on with her life. this is sad that this young woman lost her life. and even worst that amanda was only in Italy for 5-6 weeks before being convicted of a crime. foreign country is not at the top of my list of places to go anymore.
One last thing, the "break in". Who could have staged (the broken glass CLEARLY shows it was done from the inside) a fake burglary? This was an inside job, not some random burglar.
RogerGT Talk about braindead.. How do you explain all the shards of glass on the outside window sill, and no glass down below, on the ground?.. Easy, the shutters were closed (that's the ONLY explanation, idiot).. And if the shutters were closed, then the rock was thrown from inside the house.. People like you make me laugh.. Complete morons, who turn around and call others braindead.. Smh..
RogerGT Multiple witnesses said the shutters were shut.. And yes, despite what you might believe to be the truth, from your years of watching CSI (LOLOLOLOL) glass tends to shard and splinter, AND GET EVERYWHERE when it breaks, which is why it was ALL OVER the outside window sill (which should tell your idiot ass that it should be on the ground, below, too) Besides all of that, genius, glass would have definitely fell to the ground when the alleged burglar (if there was one, lol) tried to enter the window.. Stick to what you know, moron, this is what I do for a living..
RogerGT Wrong, again... lol.. There was no forced entry on any door.. I'm sorry you're too invested to see the truth, however, with the 3 known facts of glass shards all over the outside window sill, the shutters closed, and no glass present on the ground below, PROVES it was a staged break in.. Police detectives are trained to classify crime scenes in one of 2 ways, organized, and disorganized, and the break in was obviously an organized crime scene.. Once again, I was a prosecutor for 6 years, and a criminal defense atty for the last 11 years, so you believe what you like.. Just know you are 100 % wrong..
RogerGT LOL, yes, I do know how prosecutors operate... It's why I became a defense attorney.. And no, the front door was completely intact.. Are you possibly confusing the front door with Meredith's bedroom door which was locked, and broken through by the police?.. And the shutters... Sigh.. The shutters were closed, and in fact, they had to be forcebly opened by the police, as if they had been shut for months.. Once again, these people are not stupid.. There's ample evidence Meredith was attacked by multiple people, and whomever did the attacking, did so walking through the front door, with a key.. You peeps can bitch, moan, cry all you want, there's ample evidence Knox and Sollecito were involved..
RogerGT LOL, meanwhile, back at the ranch... You're boy Sollecito is already throwing Amanda under the bus.. Take a look at the news, sucker.. He'll be rolling over within the week.. lol.. Fucking sap..
At least Rudy's future victims can rest easy knowing there is a justice system out there that will release convicted rapist killers. They can look forward to this next year.
Okay, where would I find the evidence for the defensive wounds on Amanda and Raffael? Where is the DNA evidence from Merediths fingernail clippings? I have heard that Amandas blood was in the tub, where was her wound? Why didn't the police film the interrogation, not usually required but done almost everywhere else since it protects the integrity of the interrogation & sometimes yields incriminating results.
I have to commend your ability to hit the nail right on the head in many of your comments. Douglas Preston argued that it was an evolutionarily biological trait, i.e. "altruistic punishment", that gives guilters the motivation behind their hate campaign. It certainly could be part of it. I think there's also a lack of maturity, which prevents people from separating their emotions from the facts of this case. And what you said about being "addicted to arguing" is also true of many guilters.
"story changed several times" 1 She said she was with Raffaele all night 2 During a all night tag team interrogation that was declared illegal by the ISC she implicated Patrick Lumumba and said she was in the kitchen. 3 She said she was with Raffaele all night. Is that several or is that once? She changed her story once when it was coerced out of her.
Yehudi Menuhin Why do you believe any information the prosecution gives you? Why did they not record the interrogation with a camera? She did not understand the language or have a lawyer and her interpreter was a cop who was part of Mignini's operation. Which of Mignini's fantastic motives do you believe? He had hundreds of scenarios in his head and he probably used those fantasies as a masturbation aide every night when he got home.
No motive and no physical evidence suggesting guilt was used in this trial. They just skipped over that part. False confessions are common in criminal cases.You should read more about the subject. She confessed to a crime that she could not possibly commit. She was a gullible, anxious girl and using marijuana to deal with the anxiety. I really want to know what motive/masturbation fantasy you believe. I find all of them fascinating.
Yehudi Menuhin "the cleaning materials" story was fed to the media by Mignini with absolutely no basis in fact. Mignini claimed he had receipts for a purchase of cleaning materials made by Knox and Solecito the morning after the murder. This fact is completely untrue and was invented by Mignini for the purpose of winning the trial by media. The story, receipts and evidence of bleach were not used in any trial because of it's nonexistence. Conclusively you are an ignorant person and you have no idea what you are talking about. Why would they forget to clean the room of the murder, the huge pool of blood? Do you believe that DNA is visible and they Knox and Solecito had the ability to selectively leave Rudy's DNA and remove their own? Your other facts can be attributed to the massively incompetent Perugia police force. You are not worth arguing with because you are in the sway of an ignorant lynch mob. The Knoxy Witch does not exist. It's just you fighting with your own neuroses.
Yehudi Menuhin Some police testified that the smell of bleach was "overwhelming" when entering Solecito's apartment. They don't bother to identify the source of the smell forensically. That testimonial evidence I don't find impressive or relevant and I have no reason to believe police will not perjure themselves when a good chance presents itself. As regarding the bleach evidence at Knox/Kercher's place, Massei p284: "Furthermore, if the presence of bleach had been spread throughout the house via some cleaning activity (carried out, it is not known by whom, in the various rooms) which had affected these various rooms, then many more traces ought to have been highlighted as Luminol-positive than were actually found." No I don't read blogs or forums. I would recommend that you read the book "The Monster of Florence: A True Story" by Douglas Preston to get some real insight into this case.
I totally agree with you. Much like Mignini, his co-prosecutor & the drunk keystone Perugian "investigators", the guilters have to be right at any cost. Even if that means being shady as hell.
There was none of Amanda's DNA at the crime scene. It would have been completely impossible for Amanda to have gone around and cleaned up every bit of her DNA because you can't see DNA. Yes some of her behavior was odd but that doesn't make her a murderer. Everyone deals with things differently and she really had not known Meredith all that long so it wasn't as though her mother was murdered and she was acting distant. It was a horrible thing that happened to Meredith but if Amanda murdered her or so much as helped they would have found some of her DNA. You can't judge her by her eyes or how she behaved it's all about the evidence and there was none linking Amanda Knox to the murder. ,
Hey Barbie girl how can she gloss over the story when she has said that she stayed in that night? How could it not be possible, the same way that you will not accept her alibi that she was harassed at the age of 20 years old by so many people until she finally cracked? Can Italy not admit that they gave a light sentence to the murderer of this crime? How many hours did it take until she broke and said what they wanted to hear? How many people have sat in jail while innocent? How is it possible?
If Knox had been black she couldn't have been treated any worse by the prosecution, who blame her for a terrible crime with no evidence, and have pursued their baseless theory ever since (despite having caught the real killer, Rudi Guede, 'red handed'). Regarding her false alibi, Knox signed a deeply confused witness statement following a very long interrogation, that ran late into the night, and was conducted by numerous detectives in Italian (which she didn't speak well at the time). The interrogation was not filmed (inexplicably). Knox was repeatedly told by police that she was an idiot, a liar, and claims she was hit over the head (which police deny). Under this incredible psychological pressure, she broke down and signed a ludicrous statement, fingering Patrick Lumumba (later proven to be totally innocent). She has since apologised for this on numerous occasions, and has stressed that she was bullied into making a false statement by police. Sollecito was also interrogated and bullied into conjecture - saying that it was possible Knox had crept out of his apartment in the night while he was sleeping. These statements were forced out of Knox and Sollecito by police to prove their theory before they had lab tests back from the crime scene. To their surprise, the lab tests clearly showed Rudi Guede's bloody finger prints and dna all over the crime scene and body of Meredith Kercher. Unlike Knox and Sollecito, who were openly talking to police, Guede had fled to Germany where he was arrested. Sollecito had never met Guede before, and Knox had only met him very briefly. Neither Knox or Sollecito had/have any criminal convictions. They had only known each other for a week at the time of Kercher's murder. Guede, who was homeless and had no form of income, had recently been caught breaking into a nursery carrying a knife, and was implicated in a number of similar break-ins. By far the most credible theory is that Guede broke into Kercher/Knox's house looking to steal money (his motive) as he had done before, by breaking a window with a rock. Whilst in the house he took a shit (again, his DNA proves this) which he didn't flush. Meredith returned home and found Guede in the house. She confronted him and they fought. Meredith was strong and had some training in karate - so the struggle was intense. Guede was six foot tall, muscular, and was known to carry a knife. He overpowered Meredith and silenced her by stabbing her in the neck, likely in a moment of panic. He then tried to stem her bleeding. Realising she was dead, he fled the house, taking money and mobile phones with him. He then fled to Germany. Do the math! Knox and Sollecito have been wrongly accused. Guede is guilty. He acted alone. His motive for breaking into the apartment was theft, which turned into murder when he was caught by Kercher in the act. Knox and Sollecito had no motive, and there is no credible evidence linking them to the crime scene.
One problem I have with Nadeau is that the titles clearly states that Amanda is a murderer yet on page 163 of her book she writes "...If Amanda is guilty...." this is not serious journalism!
Yes ,because when someone points out that due to evidence someone is guilty that means that they are full of hatred and don't have their own life. You'd do 'well' in a philosophy class
Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito are innocent. They were exonerated. No DNA evidence linked them to the murder of Meredith Kercher. Stop maligning them!👎☹😡
Barbie is the only American journalist who attended both trials. Her Italian is great and she did investigating on her own. Didn't copy/paste news and facts like many according to their subjective chosen sides do.
I dont think knox was a killer. There would be a lot more of her DNA at the scene itself if she had done it. Rudy's was all over the room, hers would have been as well if she was the killer. However, knox and her boyfriend definitely know more than they are letting on and they were both involved in it. Most likely the post killing- clean up, cover up, staging fake break in , locking door etc. There is far too much ( somewhat circumstantial, I agree) evidence that points to amanda ans soliceto involvement. Surely all this circumstances cant ALL be false.. Eventually the full truth will come out.
I havnt read Amanda's book for 2 reasons:- 1/ It's banned in my country, in UK bookshops, though i believe you can get it online, and 2/ Somehow, i think it would be some sort of 'Alice in Wonderland story'. Anyway, has anyone read it?...........and does she say what she was doing on the night of the murder, and does she explain why she framed an innocent man for the crime?
scrmepal you need to learn the difference between "banned" and "unpublished". banned would imply that a high court order had been made blocking the publication of the book, this is NOT the case. Indeed the publishers have simply withheld the book from publication in the UK due to concerns, (I repeat "concerns" over possible libel. That is not a "ban" that is at worst "self censorship" and at best "protective" of the interests of ALL parties. Banned is far to strong a word and in this case misleading. Its a very clear legal and semantic difference.
scrmepal Exactly, "A Rose by any other name still has thorns". This is called splitting hairs, maybe some hairs from Amanda's eyebrows, because if she has an eyebrow out of place that's the same as nodding yes when she says no, meaning she's guilty of murder because she looked left when she should have looked right. Better be careful Amanda, the eyebrow police will pull you over for using the wrong signals in your micro-expressions. Gulp. :-O
I didn't say it was THAT pocket knife. Raffaele was a knife collector, he had dozens, it was one that fit the wounds. Amanda was seen carrying a kitchen knife that night, Raffaele said she uses it "to cut a birthday cake" to explain it.Raffaele also run after Kokoman Hekumari with a knife, he barely escaped, and lived to tell court that sworn testimony! Otherwise he would be dead! Those 3 were wicked killers killing people that night after taking drugs!They belong in prison!
I've been asking questions of the guilters for a couple of days & no one will answer. Anytime someone is fighting for their lives they fight & lash out yet there were no defense wounds on the face, arms or hands or either A or R, also I can't see in the judges report where they took nail clippings from Merediths body to test for DNA..That is always done in this kind of personal attack yet apparently it wasn't done here.
I look down and read the vitriolic comments of people who know nothing of the case and just spit out mindless, hateful, venom filled comments like, "Burn The Bitch." It's like the Salem Witch Trials. What Was Their Motive? I think they caught their killer when they captured Rude Guede trying to leave Germany, after first leaving Italy.
The problem is not with whether or not public conception of Amanda being guilty or not, bottom line the evidence wasn't there. As far as the stories Amanda told about how she was interrogated,long hours,no bathroom break,no legal representation,an interprator who was trying to coax a confession and repetition of questions if the answer wasn't what the police and ultimately Mr. Mignini wanted is a story repeated by others that have been tied to looking into Mr. Mignini's career and behavior.
Well, the lady had a book she was trying to sell. If things with the case are pretty cut and dry then no one wants to read her book, so I think that explains her angle in this interview.
Amanda Knox- Lifestyles of the Sociopathic & Famous! This audio is interesting because it describes the personality of a girl who has always led a life on the cutting edge, even before moving to Perugia @
Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito are innocent. They were exonerated. No DNA evidence linked them to the murder of Meredith Kercher. Stop maligning them!👎☹😡
She seems awfully disingenuous. Whether she actually wielded the knife or not, she wanted Meredith dead for some reason, and may have played a part, directly or indirectly.
I just realized that my first comment got many negative ratings. I never claimed that I believe Knox is guilty myself. I personally believe she is innocent too. I just pointed out that Americans all believe she is innocent and at the same time they believe Casey Anthony is 100% guilty. I'm sure the fact that Knox was prosecuted by the Italian justice system is a major reason. I personally don't know the truth in both cases because I don't have a crystal ball. I do believe Knox is innocent tho..
Which has made poor sales BTW. Knox got an advance payment of $4million from her publishers but it serves them right that these publishers lost their money as it is not right for convicted murderers to profit from their crimes. Knox's is a lying book and she will have further felony charges added for her lying book which contradicts her testimony in court. Already her ex-lover Sollecito is facing felony charges for his book as well as his co-writer Gumpel for contradicting his testimony in court. Sollecito appeared in court on the 22nd of January of this new year. These two will get their comeuppance very soon, come the 25th of March when the Supreme Court in Rome gives its FINAL verdict, The evidence is unsurmountable and strong. These two are TOAST !
Maria Birchwood You have no idea what you are talking about, it's still in print and it's still selling and appears to be doing quite well and since this case is still in the news there will still be sales generated. Even the UK who wouldn't sell it has generated a lot of online sales.
the boys downstairs and girls upstairs all spent time together doing drugs with Guede. This house was a drug den.Guede often asked is Amanda "available", he was in love with her. With everybody I mean those who were interviewed and knew them both.There are plenty of those people. Yes, you have msissed a lot, the whole Massei report. Why even comment if you don't want to know ALL evidence?
So that's it? As far as I know they didn't change their stories, the prosecution said they did based on creative interpretation of the results of a subsequent round of a different type of questioning that's all. Wow that's it, the author is selling her book on that basis? What a mug I am, I only clicked it coz I thought I was in for some revelation like she used to steal babies from the morgue, ate them with ketchup and kept their heads in jars or something. They used to call it riding the gravy train.
I read the Massei verdict, Bible of the anti-Knoxers. If it's not in there, it lacks Massei's "authority." Is this your way of saying you can't document your claim, by any chance???
Well the Hellman Report is the 'bible' for pro-Knoxers! Both were reports by the presiding judges. The latest Galati Report pulls apart the Hellman Report should you wish to read that one. As for not backing up my claim - far from it. If people want information, they shouldn't rely on others to give it to them. I'll point you in the right direction though. Read her statements. She initially placed her herself at the scene when Sollecito failed to confirm her alibi, retracting it shortly after. Furthermore, she implicated Patrick and was subsequently convicted for falsely implicating him; a conviction that still stood, even in the Hellman verdict.
Her story changed several times because they FORCED HER TO CHANGE IT!!!! They kept her in that room until she told them what they wanted to hear. I hate that people scrutinized this young woman. She should be commended for being able to overcome this extremely unfortunate incident.
It's ironic that that comes from an American. No, I'd say ridiculous, since who are you to lecture other countries, when your legal system is the worst in every single aspect? You treat poor people and minorities much worse than Italy any other wealthy countreis. You really have no standing to tell other countries that their system is unfair. With all the evidence against Amanda, in America she'd be convicted with life imprisonment, or even worse, with death penalty. But, lemme tell you something. Money and power buy alibies and justice. That's why Amanda, Raffaele and Rudy, all of the sudden, magically, decided not to talk or accuse each other anymore. And it's funny that Rudy goes out on a limb to say "If they're innocent, then I'm innocent too" then the next day someone meets him and TADAAAAA he's happily in jail, waiting for the day he comes out most likely with a suitcase full of money. :D But, again, keep believing in fairy tales,they're cute, as is your angel Amanda.
What the fuck? You Italians are all the same. Concocting the riddiculous stories, based on what? And then you have the audacity that WE are the ones living in fantasy land? Whatever, ya half a meatball.
Bottom line, the truth is a very liable thing, tampered by the hands of those who can. It's just like religion. Take one holy book written over 2000 years ago (?), pass it over to the hands of Popes, Kings, Rulers, who in turn will modify it to meet their poitical agenda. Pass it as the word of God and have people citing verses of the Bible to prove something that stems from a salad of convenient truths, verses that underwent several fuck up's by several fucked up - but apparently smart - people. Because that's the only truth. Your truth, my truth are the result of what we see and hear, filtered and smoothly injected by somebody, as it's always been since humans stepped food on this planet. I'm merely telling you as I see things from my perspective. Do I think I know the truth? Lol, absolutely not, but you don't either, you're just seeing things from your perspective, which perfectly reflects your' country's media take on the Amanda Knox case.
The problem now for knox was that her latest lie really dropped herself in it, she put herself at the crime scene. She claimed to be in the kitchen & Patrick was in the bedroom. Why didn't she run out & get help, phone the police, why did she carry on the pretense the next day by claiming she didn't know where Meredith was? These were the sort of questions she was now going to be faced with. She now had to backtrack & fast. So she did what she does best, lied. This time blaming the police.
Haha. 4 computers. 4 broken computers. Police incompetence on computers. How does one manage that. Kitchen knife only from Raff's place but intuition found it. The wandering braclasp 40 days later. Haha. Miss reporter wrote her book far too early and will now have to dodge her blather for a lifetime..
The bra clasp turned out to be a 15/15 match to Raffaele's DNA, even higher than what is required in England which is a 10/10. It was sealed in a locked room for 6 months. Also, the Supreme Court ruled that it hadn't been contaminated. Even with contamination there wouldn't have been such a high and exact match to Raffaele's DNA unless he had handled it himself which he probably did.
As well as all the other male DNA on it. It was on the floor kicked about to several locations for 46 days during which time the room was not secure as evidenced by video footage of the original scene and later scene. This bra clasp was subsequently destroyed. Not suspicious! There is no way this evidence could have made it into a courtroom in England. I don't go into detail on the infinitely complex subject of DNA analysis and there is no place for laymen in that area of concern. Evidence that does not exist is evidence that cannot be retested which is not evidence at all.
james rae How could it be contaminated? Stefanoni said it was not possible. Dust can’t contaminate touch DNA. There are cases in the US that are 30 yrs. old where they are now testing articles, since DNA testing wasn’t available then. Guess what? No contamination. You are just repeating the Knox PR lie, you are a member of the lying FOA.
Sorry I know too much about this case and Rudy Guede killed Meredith all by himself. The ISC said Amanda and Raffaele should never have been charged to begin with.
Yes! I haven't lived in the garage for over 1 year now. My life is amazing & my experience in the garage made me an even stronger person than I already was. Now for the important question: have you left the Hate Brigade yet? If not, I must advise, it's a much more beautiful world over here.
The double jeopardy law doesn't exist in Italy. All criminal cases in Italy are subject to three levels of review. There is no legal reason why Amanda Knox can't be extradited when she is convicted of Meredith Kercher's murder.
However shocking Rudy's claim that two native English speakers (one who barely knew Italian) were arguing in Italian about rent money, it is not surprising to me at all. Neither is the fact that many people believe Rudy, a known criminal with a motive to shift blame to anyone but himself.
I think you missed the point with Raffaele and his family. Yes he knows he and Amanda are innocent. Mignini knows they are innocent. The case is about saving face. Raffaele was encouraged to lie to save himself. Raffaele refused.
You bring up a very good point that the guilters will ignore. If Amanda was cut during the attack & she & Meredith's blood intermingled during said attack, where is Amanda's freshly bleeding wound?
Without forming any conclusions.....if Knox is totally innocent then a big mistake has been made in pointing the finger at her. BUT, I feel she's brought much of this on to herself. The way she behaved after the event, her language to friends when talking about Meredith, her clothes and demeanor in court, in goes on and on. Either she is very immature or very insensitive. Add drugs, her monthly time, pent up anger towards Meredith and perhaps a cocktail is coming together that is perhaps a motive. Add the fact that Guede initially received a sentence of 30 years and then reduced to 16. A poor, innocent young woman was BRUTALLY murdered is that now irrelevant? It just doesn't add up.
juridical system in Italy is very bad, I agree with you. but in Italy you have many more chances to be guilty and not go to prison rather than ending up lock up as an innocent. Justice is not a farce in Italy, and the main problem is that justice is very slow
Very true.. it’s a better and exciting story having Knox as the beautiful cold blooded killer.. people love a headline a conspiracy... the facts are fairly clear.. she is innocent and they caught the culprit in the end.
