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Many people ask what are defensive weapons and are such defensive weapons legal and this is a very difficult area for many to distinguish but it is important to understand how any such item is considered to be a defensive weapon fits in with the legislation on offensive weapons. I hope to help you understand what makes an item a defensive weapon and how this relates to offensive weapons.
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@howardevans7384 2 года назад

This is a great example of why you should decline to answer until you have a lawyer regardless of how innocent you believe yourself to be - because you may inadvertently say something which incriminates you needlessly.

@TheWtfnonamez 2 года назад

Thank you for this video. As a knife collector and maker, I spend a lot of time trying to keep up with the mercurial nature of UK "weapons" laws. I certainly think that most people dont realise that if they tell a police officer that they are carrying ANYTHING for the purposes of self defence, they are now facing a criminal charge. Even if that item is a pencil or a can of baked beans. I appreciate you taking the time to cover this in more detail mate.

@squadmoralerestored 2 года назад

Hi, just a genuine question - why do you collect knives? Is it the look, the history, range or something else? Thanks :)

@TheWtfnonamez 2 года назад

@@squadmoralerestored Excellent question, and one I've never really thought about. I spend most of my time at a keyboard, and I wanted to do something constructive and physical as a hobby. I was only really tinkering and then found some RU-vid knife making channels, got into hobbyist metalwork and eventually made a knife. During this process I learned a lot about the design and history of knives, and bought a few. I guess it also helps that Im into camping and bush craft. As someone who primarily works digitally, it was just very satisfying doing something real with my hands, and I learned a lot of useful skills (I can actually fix and make stuff now.) I probably spent too much money on knives, but they are a store of value, and I got some iconic ones. Some I use, most I store, although Ive stopped buying more now. I would note that I am absolutely NOT an advocate of knives as self-defence tools in the UK. Personally I see them as lethal force weapons, so using them for self defence in a country like the UK is both ludicrous and completely illegal. Personally, I usually dont even carry a UK Legal EDC most of the time. That being said, if I was camping and I lost my can opener, I could use a Kabar to open the can, and then turn the can into a hobo stove. I find it immensely satisfying being able to do stuff like that in this digital world. (I hope this all makes sense)

@squadmoralerestored 2 года назад

@@TheWtfnonamez Thanks so much for such a lengthy reply - it makes a lot of sense :) :)

@verminwatch_out1283 2 года назад

English law is lame when it comes to self defence...NEVER admit to carrying an everyday item for self defence, without an admission, prosecution can never prove the requisite intention for an everyday item that has not been modified for use in an altercation...use whatever is necessary to defend yourself / repel an attacker, cops cannot protect you when you're being attacked 99% of the time, only you can protect yourself 99% of the time. Edit: For what it's worth...You're better off being judged by 12 than be carried by 6...stay streetwise and stay safe everyone👊 You're welcome.

@cromwellsghost3434 2 года назад

Agreed, we have all these laws that hamper law abiding citizens, whilst giving criminals an enormous amount of flexibility, and tactical advantage.

@cliveadams7629 2 года назад

@@cromwellsghost3434 It's because.law abiding citizens will talk themselves into trouble and the police know they can't touch the hardened criminal because they'll never admit anything. Police these days are lazy or incompetent, or more usually both, and need to meet targets so who do you think they're going to prosecute? Who do you think they'll choose to come after? Never, ever, under any circumstances allow police into your house without a earrent or speak to them without a lawyer even if they're just asking you to "help" them. It's terrible that this country has come to the point when we have more to fear from the police than we do from criminals and it's only going to get worse as we slide into totalitarianism.

@initialyze 2 года назад

That's right. The law takes away all rights to protect yourself and then cuts police funding and refuses to hand down decent punishments... Therefore, you are more likely to be attacked than to be protected from an attack and the perpetrator is more likely to get away with out any reasonable punishment if they are even caught in the first place... If someone attacks you and you injure them defending yourself, the first thing the police will do is investigate to see if you were justified in defending yourself... Protect the rights of the criminals, at all costs...

@esecallum 2 года назад

@@cliveadams7629 39 people died due to a terror attack in the last 10 years, and 139 people died in Police custody for the same period. Thinks its important to remember that as per your figures your approx 3.5 times more likely to die at the hands of the police than at the hands of terrorists..And bear in mind the police are 100% acting for your safety whilst terrorists are acting 100% to KILL you... So either the police are very good at being terrorists or should we trust terrorists more than the police when it comes to public safety...

@cliveadams7629 2 года назад

@@esecallum Police are foockin useless when it comes to criminals, they're scared of them and the crooks are too much like hard work. Which is why they go for easy pickings, the kind of people who trust & rely on the police & so are easy to manipulate into confessing or saying things that can be made to look bad in court. And as you say, if that doesn't work then have a little accident whilst in custody. Never trust the police, they're not there to protect you.

@Reman1975 2 года назад

I ALWAYS used to keep a 6 "D cell" Maglite in the door pocket of my van. It was really useful to light up dirty countryside road signs at night, or to see when doing pre/post shift vehicle checks in winter, and was even occasionally a pretty good makeshift hammer. If I was getting out of the van in a rough area after dark I'd also drop it into it's belt holder ring and take it with me because since motion sensor lights became the norm, house numbers are often in the shadows until you actually walk up the door. Because the old 6 cell Maglite's were pretty hefty lumps, the natural way to use them was to have your hand near the head, and support the rest of it's mass on your shoulder, which also meant that if someone approached with the intent to cause you harm, You already happened to have this situationally appropriate (and totally innocuous) item in your hand, But coincidentally, it also resembled a weighted baseball bat that was already in an almost perfect position to be swung, and added about an extra foot to your reach.

@aidanleach7036 2 года назад

You'd probably get done for attempted murder I often carry my toolbag in which I have various tools and equipment with aerated and bladed edges in which are stored at the top of the bag to prevent cutting through the bottom of the bag in which if I'm attacked may just be the first item I grab ...

@richardbrookman6415 2 года назад

And while you are carrying it in this way, keep a finger on the on/off button. That way you can disorientate the other person with a blinding light while you consider what to do.

@wjf0ne 2 года назад

Reman1975 No disrespect Reman, but with smaller torches nowadays with much superior luminosity no cop is going to give you the benefit of the doubt on you clobbering anyone with a six cell maglite. There again your job isn't to confront people in the dark and a better light will let you see them sooner so you can report to your control room or police sooner. I had a loon shine his magic light toy at me from over 100 m away and it actually blinded me to the extent I had to kneel down to blink the effects away. The unfortunate thing is it was someone in a TA camp who did it.

@ModernKnight 2 года назад

I'm always very careful when at at re-enactment event to minimise the use of any of my medieval reproduction weapons, outside of controlled displays. I'm always on private land, but often the paying public are present, and I'm in medieval clothing, but even so I am very careful with weapons, and wouldn't for example, take one to the pub afterwards, even if in historical clothing!

@BlackBeltBarrister 2 года назад

Very sensible approach! I would love to come and watch and exhibit examples here!

@BlackBeltBarrister 2 года назад

Also just noticed I was “purged” from yours subs, so re-subscribed!

@ModernKnight 2 года назад

@@BlackBeltBarrister somtimes RU-vid befuddles me, and yes It might be a good collaboration to look at how the law might consider reenactment weapons and how they ought, or ought not, be used.

@Arcticnick 2 года назад

@@ModernKnight For my one and only battle I was provided a stout stick It proved more than adequate. And very basic sack cloth clothing and leggings.

@BlackBeltBarrister 2 года назад

@@ModernKnight yes, let’s do that!

@grahamthegreat2680 2 года назад

As a little aside can I suggest the perfect weapon for defence of the home is a long Krooklock bar which you "forgot" to put on the steering wheel and just happened to be nearby when you needed it to knock the s**t out of the scroats who broke into your home. (Recommended to me by a police detective)

@tlangdon12 2 года назад

As the video points out, should you feel the need to defend yourself, anything that you might reach for becomes an offensive weapon if you pick it up with the intention of harming someone with it, but the police and CPS will not generally prosecute you if you have picked up the first thing that came to hand and only used it with reasonable force to defend yourself; which might mean waving it about and making threats towards the attacker, using it to parying any blows they might throw at you, or hitting them with it. If you only use it enough to stop them, and not to harm them any more than is necessary to get them to stop their attack, you have a defence in law.

@grahamthegreat2680 2 года назад

@@tlangdon12 very true what you've said, but should it happen I will fear for my life, my wife ( even if she's out) I will believe I saw "some sort of weapon" and I will believe he/they were acting so crazily that they were high on drugs. Think any jury of MY peers would convict me? I know I wouldn't!

@nigelcox1451 2 года назад

I have a large Maglite torch that uses 4 'D' cells, so is quite hefty. It stands on its nose beside my bed, as historically I needed it in a hurry a few times to shine out of the window to scare away aggressive cats when our timid cat was being attacked. I've often thought that if someone broke in, it would be quite effective as a cosh, but that is not its purpose for being there. I could carry it while out after dark, but presumably would need to show that my route included unlit areas, as if all my route was lit, there would be no need for a torch. We now get more light from a tiny LED pocket torch. Can't smack anyone with that.

@15bit62 2 года назад

@@nigelcox1451 Get a dog :) I have a smallish metal maglite that i carry in my back pocket when i walk the dog, as she has a unique gift for finding the darkest part of any hedge to do her business. In the event of need that would probably double up for defense as i could quickly flash someone in the face to temporarily "blind" them, crack them on the head (if needed), and run. I did try just using the light on my phone, but with the dog pulling all over the place i kept dropping it, so i got the maglite.

@ziggarillo 2 года назад

In your home you have your perfectly legal traditionally made Katana displayed on your wall, you kitchen knives, your cricket bat, pool cue, etc. The Krooklock is more of an in car device that sits on your passenger seat ready to be applied when you park.

@AndrewGruffudd 2 года назад

When I was with Victim Support, back in 1993 or thereabouts, one of the questions I asked was about self defence. This also tied in with the fact that I had been mugged around that time too, which led me to the Ninjutsu dojo, but I was keen to understand how I could defend myself and advise others to defend themselves if necessary without attracting the unwanted attention of HM Plod. I was green and cabbage-looking back in the day, but I still knew my onions.

@rmd8873 2 года назад

How dare you defend yourself against a larger stronger person/s, using a defensive tool. As we all know, there is a police officer on the corner of every street here in the UK!

@OrangeHulk 2 года назад

Seeing a police officer on the street would be such a rare I sight I would immediately think it more likely to be an imposter.

@ccityplanner1217 2 года назад

@@OrangeHulk : You do actually see more imposters paid by the local council than actual police officers in some areas. There is even a company called "My Local Bobby" which will send an imposter police officer to your area for a fee.

@tomcleary469 Год назад

@@ccityplanner1217 Please tell me you are joking

@ccityplanner1217 Год назад

@@tomcleary469 : No I am not. I have a very unfriendly rivalry with an ersatz policeman who works in the King's Road area of Chelsea. He drives a white Hyundai Ioniq with blue squares stuck to it to make it look like a police car, & goes around menacing anyone who's not from the area so that they don't go there.

@BrianParkes 2 года назад

Best advice I had was to carry a torch at night. You have a perfectly valid reason for it, it can be in your hand quite justifiably but should you be attacked it has a number of other uses.

@MalcolmJames-sg3zg 2 года назад

ITS NICE TO SEE SOMEONE LIKE YOU TO SPEND TIME DOING THESE HELPFULL VIDEO S AND HELPING PEOPLE OUT, THANKS

@mdshovel 9 месяцев назад

Quite right and common sense. As an employer I had to provide a letter to my chefs regarding their work knives. They had to be in a proper roll up cover and that in bag or even lockable case. They must not be easily identifiable or easily accessible. I had to state that they carried these direct from home to work and back or to catering college and back ONLY. Nothing should ever be carried as a defensive weapon and certainly never stated as such. A baseball bat behind a door or the old myth of bat, glove & ball in a car will not wash. The best defence is distance and situational awareness.

@xblHumptyDub 2 года назад

Recently got recommended your channel and it's always very interesting. I like that you don't give your opinions on what you believe the law should be, just the facts. There seems to be a lot of dunning-kruger effect when it comes to British law, I've noticed it a lot in conversations about knife law recently. People thinking for some reason that they can carry any size knife as long as it folds etc, also people who think the only reason one would carry a "legal" knife is to hurt someone. Very strange! Anyway, hopefully the algorithm boosts you mate.

@BlackBeltBarrister 2 года назад

Thank you!

@robba1234 2 года назад

@@sleepingwarrior4618 my issue with this is the same with many laws opinion not facts can dictate what happens with ANY knife, a leather man toolkit got me in bother, I'm an electrician and have had one on my belt for decades till I got stopped by a pissed off policeman, clear right from the start his mood was terrible, luckily another officer came over and turned it down. Never worn it since but its wrong it's hardly a weapon besides Its a tool for me

@Rayxl1 2 года назад

@@robba1234 I'm also an electrician but not one that does house wiring. I would have to be psychic not to be in danger from the law. Otherwise I have no way of knowing if a court would decide what I'm using my knife for is legitimate or not. However, I've always just taken a chance and never had a problem.

@robba1234 2 года назад

@@Rayxl1 I didn't "till I did" and reasonable was not in this guys vocabulary. I mean a leather man knife is hardly a weapon, but despite carving knives etc being most likely they blanket ban.. Easy answer

@garfstiglz3981 2 года назад

I liked watching this upload very much, it resounded wth me as around 25 years ago I purchased from a company a type of baton that collapses in on itself. As is the case with the sentiment expressed in this upload I thought I'd carry it in my bag purely for self defence should someone attempt to mug me. I lived in a dodgy part of London at the time and thought it was perfectly ok. I showed it to a couple of friends or at least I thought they were. One of them knew something of the law at the time and told me it was in fact called a short-stanchion and was prohibited to possess it under law as it was considered an offensive weapon. On hearing this I disposed of it the following day by throwing it into a skip of a local company that recycled metal. A few days later a police officer knocked at my door and said that they had been informed that I had this item in my possession and proceeded to ask me where it was? I told them that I had disposed of it after finding out it was illegal to have it, I even suggested they could look around my flat if they wanted to confirm that I no longer had it. After a discussion we parted ways however not before I noticed that the thing I had purchased had been almost identical to the thing that the police officer was carrying on his belt at the time. I told the officer this and asked him if I could look at his one? He allowed me to do so and he even kindly demonstrated how it worked by extending it and then collapsing it. It was almost identical. I asked him if it was illegal for me to possess such an item how was it perfectly ok for him to carry one, I added that I was asking as surely he and other police officers are not above the law and are subject to it just as I was. He replied that he was permitted to carry it. He said in dummy terms so I could understand I imagine, that it was 'part of the tools of the trade' as such to allow him to perform the duties of his role effectively. Needless to say I found that somewhat two-faced, but it is what it is. One law for us, one law for them as it were.

@Arcticnick 2 года назад

So you were not able to protect yourself in the same way, going about your legal business?!

@Baddad36 2 года назад

Your suggestion being that because police can carry firearms so should you?

@kingsbury26 2 года назад

It isn't really one law for is and one for them. The policeman couldn't take the baton home as it is part of the tools of the job as explained. I can't drive round with a machete in the car, but as a gardener I can.

@NeilCWCampbell 2 года назад

The police aren't there for your benefit!

@NeilCWCampbell 2 года назад

@@kingsbury26 actually the batons are taken home ! Guns and tasers and sprays left

@FollowPhotiniByDesign 2 года назад

A continuation on this I think would be quite interesting for viewers, would you be able to explain the uses and legal ramifications of Farb Gel, I think it is used as a criminal identifier and in some cases as advertised a non harmful self defense spray. I have always been intrigued what the legal ramifications of using Farb Gel actually are, not that I would use it myself. Keep up the magnificent work and all the very best to you...

@ErwinPommel 2 года назад

Same as absolutely anything else. If you're carrying it for the purpose of self defence, it's illegal. You could carry a dish mop for self defence and it would be illegal. Intent is much more important here than the actual object.

@BlackBeltBarrister 2 года назад

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@AkiraHDR50 2 года назад

John Wick killed 3 men in a bar with a pencil, With a f*cking pencil. Sorry but I couldn't resist posting this.

@ziggarillo 2 года назад

So, no he didn't it wasn't real it was a film. And yes all sorts of things are dangerous , I'm a psychiatric nurse and a patient in was about to assess in a medical ward in a general hospital killed himself with a desert spoon by stabbing himself in the eye with it whilst I was on my way to see him at lunchtime

@chrisg6597 2 года назад

This reminds me of something back in the late 1980's. I used to work for a company that made hand held computers, which were at the time, about the size of an house brick. A particular famous catalogue company at the time came to us as they were interested in supplying their reps with the computers for use when money collecting (In those days, if you bought from a catalogue, a rep would come round every week to your house to collect part payment). They asked if we could do things like changing the keyboard layout etc, but the one thing they did ask for as a necessity, was if we could ruggedise the unit, so that if any of the customers were violent to the rep, that they could use the computer as a weapon.

@tlangdon12 2 года назад

Ruggedising the unit for use in the field is clearly a good idea, but I do hope that your employer declined to add sharp edges!

@chrisg6597 2 года назад

@@tlangdon12 They were designed for use outdoors in harsh environments, so already ruggedised, waterproof, fully working after drop test onto concrete from 2m etc. What they wanted was the wrist strap and it's mounting reinforcing so it didn't break off when they whacked someone over the head with it as well as some modifications to the shape of the case. We declined the contract as it wasn't financially viable to change the injection moulding tool for the low number of units they wanted.

@morethan4mph 2 года назад

It always surprises me that blowpipes (peashooters) are proscribed weapons. When I was a kid peashooters were such great fun.

@Arcticnick 2 года назад

25 years ago anyway blow pipes, were legal in the US, the darts which had surgical steel shafts are potentially highly accurate and have and astonishing range. From one end of my RV to the other I scored five consecutive dart hits on dart hits. one hitting another hitting another etc...Not far but still highly accurate. They have a range of well over 100 meters - still some considerable accuracy.

@ianhill4585 2 года назад

Same with tree,conkers, until the anti fun brigade ,deemed them as dangerous to users,and others, everything can be a weapon ,if you look hard enough, the "line" keeps getting moved.

@FerDeLance06 2 года назад

@@ianhill4585 You're joking; kids can't play conkers anymore? What's next - they're going to stop them learning to cook at school in case they cut or burn themselves? Why not just keep them in a cage? (Actually, some of them should be, lol!)

@VatticTV 2 года назад

Some schools have banned them over the years after students got hurt or were reckless. Mine banned snowball fights after some started putting stones in them and some kid got badly hurt. Never been a country wide ban on playing conkers.

@TomHartill 2 года назад

The wavy line on the katana is called the hamon and is the effect left over from hardening the edge of the blade which is harder to retain a sharper edge than the soft core which is there for support and to absorb impact. In cheaper swords a fake hamon is applied with acid for aesthetics, but a real hamon is a desired end result in the forging process.

@ps8432 2 года назад

It also gives a harder to heal wound. This is a scientific fact, not opinion. It was an advantage for the owner, and looks good.

@Cunnah101 2 года назад

@@ps8432 Interesting could you point to a source for this. I am aware of a number of concerns Japanese sword makers had with European construction as their understanding of western metallurgy meant they didn't think European swords (unfolded by that time) were as strong as their techniques despite this may have not been the case.

@MidNightWolf6942 2 года назад

I am a Security Officer and I often take my 6 cell Maglte on patrol with me. It is primarily a torch but if needed, it could be used as a defensive/deflective weapon. What would the legalities be if I were to use this torch in self defence?

@davew1234 2 года назад

Please keep doing what you’re doing, because the average honest person on the street needs this info

@huwwynjones2144 2 года назад

As one martial artist to another I'd really appreciate you did a video on "samurai" sword ownership in the UK. Oss

@huwwynjones2144 2 года назад

@@sleepingwarrior4618 Need isn't really the point is it?! Many serious martial artists develop an interest in oriental weapons and, quite legally, start collecting a few. Now the law seems to have changed and even keeping a sword at home could be illegal.

@huwwynjones2144 2 года назад

@@sleepingwarrior4618 They could be under the new law ... even if kept at home. Mr BBB has a sword under his TV so I reckon it's pretty relevant.

@paulamos8970 2 года назад

Excellent advice once again, one thing about speaking to a lawyer, you presumably would not be answering any questions other than name, address and dob until you had spoken to your legal representative. Would that have any significant impact on the Police caution where not saying anything that you later rely on in court can be detrimental to your defence? Assuming that you have been cautioned and arrested and not just giving a witness statement. Thank you again for all the time you give up for these informative videos.

@TheYjmfan 2 года назад

Really great advice I love watching your videos very informative and to the point thanks!

@Ireallymissmymind 2 года назад

I am an old man (70+) and need to walk with a stick. I have made walking sticks for many years. Back in the day I was also a reasonably skilful HEMA swordsman. Oddly enough, all of my walking sticks handle exactly like swords...

@ianhill4585 2 года назад

Hidden in plain sight huh!? 😉. Let's hope they don't force you (us) to explain your medical need for a cane/ stick.

@Ireallymissmymind 2 года назад

@@ianhill4585 I need a stick as a result of (documented) injuries sustained during my 30 years as a police officer. I think I've got it covered.

@ziggarillo 2 года назад

@@ianhill4585 No need if your over 70

@inregionecaecorum 2 года назад

My walking sticks have antler handles and I have taken them into the houses of Parliament without challenge.

@Ireallymissmymind 2 года назад

@@inregionecaecorum I have needed a stick for the past 20 years. It has always amused me that in my days of international travel, I have been actively assisted to carry my steel-shod, fighting weight stick wheresoever I wish, at the same time being divested of sundry tiny nail files, scissors etc. and once - I kid you not - a pair of plastic scissors from an emergency first aid kit.

@gonzo3915 2 года назад

An old Metal Maglite, the big ones full of batteries so it works makes for an excellent cudgel. I was told this by my Brother when he was chief super.

@thecapacitor1395 2 года назад

What about wearing body armour for everyday things? Like ballistic, stab proof or just motorcycle armour, even if you don't have a motorcycle? Like without having a reasonable excuse for wearing it other than to help protect yourself from a random attacker, would it be seen as offensive and that you're somehow looking for a fight?

@Scousestrongmanfan 2 года назад

You can own and wear body armour in the Uk without restriction.

@bobadams7654 2 года назад

A stab vest is not an offensive weapon - unless you hug someone very hard!

@Josiecel 2 года назад

@@Scousestrongmanfan so i can walk around in my level 4 plate carrier around happily? Oddly based britain

@jacobrackham432 2 года назад

No I believe certain levels of body armour are licensed in the uk for security forces only. Police army etc. Stab vests are legal, but I think high level ballistic armour isn’t for “normal” people. Again it can easily be purchased though through army surplus suppliers

@Scousestrongmanfan 2 года назад

@@jacobrackham432 i own ex police ballistic armour its rated up to .357 completely legal to own its also knife and spike rated too.

@Arcticnick 2 года назад

I was briefly a member of a Saxon battle reenactment group. The one and only battle I fought in, we won, and I not only 'survived' but achieved four or five strikes receiving none in return. II had previously received training at school by a one armed Olympic fencing trainer. Devoted group members held meetings banquets battles and craftsmen offered the considerably skilled services providing beautifully made armoury, shields and weapons et cetera. Others mate their own chain mail by hand with pliers and industrial staples.

@nemo9540 Год назад

I find it absolutely ridiculous that the public in the uk cannot carry or use pepper spray as a means to defend themselves from an attack. I'm disabled and extremely vulnerable but even people like me cannot carry such an item that is non lethal and can mean the difference between getting away safe or ending up in hospital or worse.

@cliveadams7629 2 года назад

Never talk to the police without a lawyer under any circumstances. Full stop.

@ErwinPommel 2 года назад

Good solid advice in America. Less useful here. "But it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court."

@cliveadams7629 2 года назад

@@ErwinPommel Not as much as the police can harm your defence if they get you to say something which appears harmless to you but suits their case greatly. Wait until you have a lawyer before you say anything, your own words are almost certain to do you much greater harm than your silence ever could.

@carolramsey8457 2 года назад

@@cliveadams7629 Absolutely right! "May harm your defence" is simply a logically meaningless statement You have a right to remain silent. If they caution you before they ask your name remember Captain Mainwaring's advice - "Don't tell him Pike!"

@angowT 2 года назад

Yep and the way legal aid is going in the UK, we're going to run out of criminal lawyers, so good luck with getting one in the future.

@polla2256 2 года назад

@@ErwinPommel not all. Head in hands, no eye contact, no comment, private solicitor

@jackmason4374 2 года назад

I have a monocular on a long cord which is in the side pocket of my rucksack, it’s is solid heavy think thuggees !

@ps8432 2 года назад

If you upset a police person you could be charged unless you could convince cps you were carrying it for a specific reason. Now, habit is no excuse. After all, if they choose, they can arrest you for having a tyre lever in your car.

@bobadams7654 2 года назад

Excellent, easy to understand, overview Many thanks.

@tarmacdemon 2 года назад

What about a walking stick I can"t walk with out it . If I was attacked I would use it to aid my get away

@daviddavidson2357 2 года назад

I always thought a Mills bomb or other high power fragmentation grenade was a defensive weapon because you have to throw it from cover.

@bobadams7654 2 года назад

I always thought my sniper rifle was legal as I can hit someone from over a mile away.

@allanchapman7986 2 года назад

Lol...from my military days any weapon can be used either for offence or defence.

@Reman1975 2 года назад

I seem to remember that the UK's nuclear arsenal used to be described as a "Defensive weapon", so does that mean I could keep one in my garden shed to deter burglars? :) [Warning - Trespassers may be vaporised] :D

@wessexdruid5290 2 года назад

@@Reman1975 Along with your shed - and house - and town!

@ianbrown9082 Год назад

A Policeman told me to carry a large maglight torch if I have to investigate a possible night time intruder in and around the home/garage as it's large enough to provide some form of defence and if I DID have to use it in self defence i'd be much less likely to face possible charges as its night time, so clearly a torch would be required on my person in those circumstances.

@BATMAN777888 2 года назад

Hello thank you for this video. There is a company called training for engagement that sells the HDR50. It’s marketed as a home defence revolver. It fires 50 cal projectiles and is powered by CO2 gas. I was surprised to find out this hand gun was being sold legally here in the UK.

@Andy-xt3mh 2 года назад

Yeah I would really like a video on this one. As you're allowed to use anything for self defence but not allowed to own anything for self defence. I really feel like using a HDR for home defence would be a hard sell to a jury.

@jacobrackham432 2 года назад

The company umarex mainly make air guns. They make a few versions of the home defence range including a revolver a semiautomatic pistol and a double-barrelled shotgun. These range from .40 to .68cal. You can also legally buy hardened rubber/steel balls and all manor of other plastic and metal rounds/balls. They can be used with paintballs, but also lots of other types of ammunition that’s the same caliber. The uk versions are 7.5 joules keeping them legal as air guns or paintball guns. This 7.5 joules is very easily adjustable though with the simple removal of or addition of parts readily legally available. Yet the products are called hds (home defence shotgun) hdr (home defence revolver) and the hdp (homes defence pistol) would wording alone then make these “paintball or marker” guns illegal. Or is it still down to the intention of there use? If “it” is loaded with paintballs would that make there use in a defence situation less likely to get the user in trouble than if they were loaded with uk legal and easily available metal rounds? Obviously one will cause much less damage than the other.

@ziggarillo 2 года назад

It becomes illegal as soon as you go out with it.

@jacobrackham432 2 года назад

@@ziggarillo - that depends on how it’s carried and where you are going an for what purpose

@jacobrackham432 2 года назад

@@paulcollyer801 - true about them swelling and bursting in the gun yeah. The problem is they don’t hurt enough to stop you. I’ve played quite a bit and yeah it hurts and can break the skin but not enough to stop you. Especially in a small space (house) someone could still get to you with a weapon. As I said you can get all sorts of ammunition for the home defence range.

@stephengrassby128 2 года назад

If you have a push bike you can carry a lock preferably a heavy padlock on a meter of heavy chain, you don't need said bike with you, only need to own one, you absent-mindedly left lock in pocket when left home .

@daze1945 2 года назад

I found this video very enlightening. For me it raises a number of questions; As a keen cook I possess a number of Japanese knives which are obviously potentially lethal, so my using them in my own home for self defence against an intruder would be ok, assuming I didn't go crazy and stab unnecessarily many times? Outdoors my limbs may be construed as offensive weapons if I punch or kicked an assailant in the throat/head potentially seriously damaging them? By the logic put forward in the video then Police officers are breaking the law by carrying offensive weapons such as extending batons, sprays, tasers etc (this is obviously a satirical question since there are some above the law). LOL You might consider these questions moot but in the real world this is the sort of stuff that costs thousands in court to resolve.

@beeble2003 2 года назад

"Outdoors my limbs may be construed as offensive weapons" No they cannot. If you punch and kick, there's always the question of whether the amount of force you used was reasonable, but your body is not an offensive weapon. There are exemptions in law for the weapons that the police carry. They are not above the law. Just like they are not acting "above the law" when they exceed the speed limit in a car with lights and sirens.

@MJG2012 2 года назад

You don't take your limbs out into public with the sole intention of using them as a weapon. As mentioned in the video it's not that you can't use an item to defend yourself - for example I've heard a story of a time someone used an umbrella to defend themselves but that was obviously not the reason they had it to hand

@traintochange9902 Год назад

I think a lot of us now are of the opinion, if someone attacks you then it would be the attackers fault for attacking others. Police can't now police properly and let's face it, it is one's responsibility to protect one's self. There are a lot of laws really that take away people's protection and also subjugate them. However I recognise that you are explaining the law and not your opinion, I am just placing my thoughts on this. Thank you for your explanation

@stephenpowell653 2 года назад

what about the UMAREX T4E HDR 50 REVOLVER (HOME DEFENSE)

@ryanparker7258 4 месяца назад

The way I interpreted this is, if your out shopping and someone attacks you anything you use to defend yourself with could be interpreted as an illegal weapon!. Being retired military we were trained to use anything you can lay your hands on, so where would this leave us?

@snuggleseal 2 года назад

6D maglite in the car, spiked ring, axe collection in the bedroom...... then when someone attacks you can grab the nearest thing in the heat of the moment...... none of the items were for self defence, they just happened to be in the perfect place. :D

@Ruari2023 2 года назад

Well this is news to me, I'll leave my bren gun at home from now on ☹️

@robg521 2 года назад

How about carrying a can of ‘MACE’ spray ? In 1989 the F1 Driver Bertrand Gachot was sentenced to 18 months in prison because he sprayed a Taxi driver with Mace when they got into a road rage argument and then a fight. His attitude [including his lawyer] said that the Taxi driver attacked him and he used the Mace to defend himself [in his home country of France Mace was legal to carry for that purpose at the time so this is why he was carrying it]. The judge took the view that the Can of Mace was an offensive weapon and gave him 18 months. [this was when Michael Schumacher unexpectedly got his 1st ever drive in F1 because no one expected Bertrand to get prison sentence]

@Spacey7 2 года назад

You can still carry a Kubotan when solid. I've had mine taken off of me a few times & quickly returned 😊

@malcolmsymon2139 2 года назад

I believe a Quarterstaff is allowed under Magna Carta, for all classes.

@beeble2003 2 года назад

You believe incorrectly.

@davekirk100 2 года назад

Many years ago, I lived in a less desirable area of a certain city, and in my van, I always had at the side of the drivers seat a 15" monkey wrench. Probably illegal, but could say 'sorry, I just forgot to put it back in the tool box'. Fortunately, I never needed to use it other than what it was designed for

@unlisted5150 2 года назад

I gave a statement where I had been in a situation where I used my walking aid as a “shield” to deter an attacker.

@YorkyFromFax 2 года назад

I have a hammer and long handled axe in my boot of the car with some other tools like , nails & a piece or two of small wood. These are for repairing my garden fence. But if needed I could use them in self defence

@StoffelDilligas 2 года назад

It terms of self defense items, I always make sure that my wife carries a powerful aluminium torch. With a strap. And fits nicely in a pocket. Any issues, shine it straight into their eyes, dazzle them with the bright light and that can give a few extra seconds to either get away, or prepare to use as a something to lash out with.

@clarky4492 2 года назад

I carry a heavy duty pen and diary. A torch and Swiss army knife and a sec 139 legal pen knife. sometimes a pouch with a 1st aid kit etc. There are loopholes potentially , however UK law is anti decent person in my opinion, the law favourably helps the greater bad. I am no lawyer but I cant help but think UK law needs a rework to favour the innocent and greater clarity. I respect law but often find UK law favours the potential criminal .

@Josiecel 2 года назад

Wishing for the day I can have a shotgun under my coat as a self defence weapon

@ziggarillo 2 года назад

So the point is , any weapon that can be legally carried will be carried legally by people with criminal intent, there would be no way of stopping them until they committed an offense. So it is an offense to go equipt for violence

@clarky4492 2 года назад

@@ziggarillo carrying a pen for writing is not an offence. Carrying a pen knife for cutting string etc is not an offence if under 3 inch and non locking.

@NeilCWCampbell 2 года назад

UK laws not for your benefit!

@NeilCWCampbell 2 года назад

@@ziggarillo really? So nobody lawfully got into a car and intentionally ran someone over? I get the initial prong of your argument but upon analysis it doesn't hold up ! You assuming any right of Cary just a free for all for one!

@Cunnah101 2 года назад

I Always want to know what is meant but "Traditional Methods" in the sense of reproduction blades for the purpose of re-enactment. In some daggers (eg Basilards) there is some evidence that some where made via stock removal ie take a lump of metal and grind out the shape. This method is often how "zombie knives" are made as its quite a cheap way of making something. Historically the blades were made this way as the price of some metals became cheaper and the daggers became more decorative than defensive.

@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar 2 года назад

"Historical methods" is a nonsense really. Pretty much every method has been used to manufacture weapons in the past. There was even an English boat excavated in ?Bordeaux? that dated back to the Hundred Years War full of iron swords that had been cast! Would probably have shattered on first contact with anything above a baguette though.

@Argotist 12 дней назад

The Prevention of Crime Act 1953 and the Criminal Justice Act 1988, which criminalise the carrying of everyday objects for self-defense purposes, are absurd. These laws indiscriminately punish people who merely want to protect themselves, equating the possession of common items like umbrellas and torches with malicious intent. Also, the laws are inherently ambiguous, creating a legal minefield where the intent behind carrying an object is subjective and difficult to prove. This not only undermines the principles of justice and fairness but also burdens the legal system with cases that focus on the hypothetical misuse of everyday items rather than addressing genuine criminal behavior. By stripping individuals of their ability to defend themselves, these acts do more harm than good, fostering a climate of fear and helplessness.

@arseburgers4208 2 года назад

Good video, can we get a similar one regarding "home defense"?

@ryan976david 2 года назад

Who cares about what the “law” says regarding home defence??? Anyone comes into my home and I feel my family is threatened, they’re leaving in a bag.

@ryan976david 2 года назад

Who cares about what the “law” says regarding home defence??? Anyone comes into my home and I feel my family is threatened, they’re leaving in a bag.

@PCDelorian 2 года назад

Technically "defensive weapon" is not what most people understand a "weapon". Historically the terms 'arm' and 'weapon' included armour, a defensive weapon is thus armour, as opposed an offensive weapon because it is used offensively (even if the purpose of that offensive action is overall defensive) whereas armour is defensive because its solely used to defend and cannot cause another offence. Most people wouldn't regard armour as a weapon today but to cover one's basis armour is what would be a defensive weapon. Obviously not what's being talked about here but still.

@harryzero1566 2 года назад

Can you discuss, why or how the establishment believe they can protect the general population from criminal acts of robbery or injury. The serving on duty police officers have batons, tasers and body armour to defend themselves. Incidentally, in some countries, not the UK, even certain grades of body armour are restricted.

@PippetWhippet 2 года назад

Wasn’t there a case where a balloon seller was done because he said that he never sold the balloons on his left hand to be able to throw them at muggers allowing him to make his escape - even though the balloons thrown in such a manner were incapable of causing harm, only slow a mugger down as he legged it.

@olivercromwell3575 2 года назад

Bit of a question- my dad owns a fine set of historical WW1 trench raiding weapons. They were given to him by his grandfather and other people. The collection involves knuckle dusters, knuckle dusters with with sharp projections, very big knives, clubs with bits sticking out and entrenching tools sharpened to an edge. I stand to inherit these items when he dies. Is it still legal to own such items in the privacy of your own home?

@PCDelorian 2 года назад

Generally yes, but some may not be and its probably best that you get legal advice from a qualified solicitor who knows your particular situation. Never trust anyone or anything you see on the internet, no matter how reliable, as an alternative to legal advice, if its not practical to have a solicitor talk to Citizen's Advice or other groups.

@craigr306 2 года назад

Can you do a video on Jury nullification

@thegreenbaizevampire 2 года назад

So, basically, in the UK, you're not allowed to defend yourself?

@Treblaine 11 месяцев назад

If you use something "to hand" to defend yourself then in that instant you have an offensive weapon "with" you. The law gives no expemption under any circumstance, not self-defence, NOTHING. If you cannot have an item to defend yourself before you face a specific threat then nothing changes when the intent only appears against a specific threat. Either self-defense is a "reasonable excuse" or it isn't, because it's totally unreasonable to attempt to make or adapt a defensive weapon in the instant you are attacked.

@dranrebcookie1923 2 года назад

Like the baguettes in reduce sections of supermarket.

@uknighthuntingvision93 Год назад

Traffic stop: No officer, 'I have a very sharp axe in the boot of my car, for the purpose of chopping wood up for my log burner, on private land of which I own!' 'It is an offensive weapon sir!' 'No officer, the purpose of that axe is only for chopping up wood, for my log burner, on private land of which I own!; never has it come into my mind, to have the intention of using such a tool, as a weapon offensively, or defensively!' This has happened to me, on more than one occasion and I was sent on my way! Know the law, and do not allow any key stone cop to manipulate what you say! Do not deviate from a straight forward statement.

@Treblaine 11 месяцев назад

They say you're innocent until proven guilty and supposedly the burden of proof is on the prosecutor yet they do not have to prove a lack of a good reason, the burden of proof is on the defendant to prove a positive to not be convicted.

@mrmegachonks3581 2 года назад

"For the purposes of the act". There it is.

@CoffeeFiend1 2 года назад

Technically speaking if you carry a half-used damp roll of toilet paper and declare before the police that you are carrying the item for the express purposes of self-defense they're obligated to arrest you :) how ridiculous is the UK.

@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 2 года назад

Pretty fooking ridiculous. Hate this country its stupid laws and the coppers who willfully enforce such BS

@apwip 2 года назад

Its dark and I'm justifiably carrying and using a maglite torch. Will the court be able to say my intentions were to use it in an offensive/defensive manner if I happen to use it to defend myself.

@NIGH.NE. 2 года назад

Loving all your videos, thank you....

@Interdiction 2 года назад

Moral of the story is .Do not talk to the police until you have had time to talk to a brief .Keep your mouth shut is the only way forward if you have used an item to defend yourself .

@paulaseabee8442 2 года назад

Easy to remember: Ignore the words "defensive" or "offensive" and just consider the word "weapon".

@analiensaturn 2 года назад

Not a problem if your more human than most of us like royalty who have armed minders. Obviously one law for them and another law for us. Defending yourself against a knife or gun requires equal force capability. We should all be armed period. Self defence is a legal right defined as reasonable force. Surely logic defines defensive weapon not used unless attacked by a someone with a weapon as reasonable force. Someone in firming this law was playing semantics. It needs fixing.

@shane4090 2 года назад

So I'f a defensive weapon or a normal item was kept in the house for the use of defence would that still be illegal, ie a baseball near the front door.

@polla2256 2 года назад

The point is it's not for defence, you are an avid baseball player

@barneylaurance1865 2 года назад

No, the offensive weapons law is about public places. It's not necessarily illegal to have a weapon at home.

@michaeljohnson-li5nn 2 года назад

Slightly off topic but what are the regulations regarding deactivated weapons. I own WW2 MP40 machine pistol which has been deactivated back in 1991 to what’s known as ‘old spec’. I was thinking of selling the MP40 and took it to one of the local military fairs for one of the dealers to make me an offer. It was transported in the hatchback area of the car in a sports bag, so it could not be seen by any members of the public. I was wondering if my vehicle had been stopped by the police for any reason and they decided to searched my vehicle and discovered the weapon, what would they have done? I took with me the deactivation certificate which states the serial number stamped onto the weapon, which proves that it has been correctly deactivated.

@TheSoundsniper 2 года назад

If you have the paperwork and a legit reason to transport it you should be fine. I did a little WW2 re-enactment a few years ago and we were stopped on the M1 with about 5 deacs, over a dozen blank fire weapons and a single live fire rifle(legally owned and no live ammo with us). As we had the paperwork for it all we just spent 20-30 mins in a layby showing the coppers tommy guns and brens in the back of a transit van and that was it.

@EtonieE25 2 года назад

What about a frying pan as a shield and a cast iron pot to bash ‘em on the head with 🤔😎

@PabloTBrave 2 года назад

just use any normal item you happen to have with you at the time, anything can be a weapon if needed, a vape ( if you smoke) , a torch ( walking the dog in the dark), your mobile phone, your stilettoes ladies ( and gents) , or the wall you happen to be passing when attacked . Don't use keys like woman self defense seem to love as its lousy and unlikely to work.

@WoollyWanderers 2 года назад

I'm quite safe overnight in my motorhome. Kitchen full of knives and a 3 ft breaker bar to remove wheel nuts. All quite handy in case of an intruder :)

@cliveadams7629 2 года назад

Er, didn't you mean to say your hand might accidently fall on one of those items and in the heat of the moment used to defend yourself if you were in fear for your life and was never left by the door as a weapon for self defence but by sheer good fortune happened to be there after you had checked your wheel nuts and not got around to stowing it safely away in the tool kit?

@bobadams7654 2 года назад

Oops. Ur nicked, son.

@dshe8637 2 года назад

Amazon sells thousands of these so-called defence items. They need to clean up and stick to their policies. I've seen these items turn up in schools.

@carldimmock 2 года назад

I've noticed quite a lot of laws say "him" would a woman who goes by "her" be able to wiggle out of the law due to the terminology used?

@bobadams7654 2 года назад

You can wiggle all you want, but the law applies to all genders.

@carldimmock 2 года назад

@@bobadams7654 I understand laws are applicable to everyone no matter the gender, sexuality ethnicity ect. But I'm wondering if anyone has ever got out of prosecution because the law stated him and it was a her.

@ziggarillo 2 года назад

No law say him, they are all very careful not to be gender specific, you have obviously never read one.

@barneylaurance1865 2 года назад

No, unless the law explicitly says that it doesn't apply to women the courts will read "him" as referring to anyone.

@tonycammie1269 2 года назад

Your only allowed to use every day things you carry... Like keys or a phone, in extreme case where someone is coming at you with a weapon if there a house brick close by hand then I'd say you could pick it up and us it. I think it's all about responding with the same force that's coming at you.

@9crutnacker985 2 года назад

Excellent video. thanks. On subject of curved swords - so it's the method/style of manufacture that has to date before 1954 & not the actual sword ?

@PMA65537 2 года назад

An old South American style is a wooden sword with stone chips in the edge.

@emm_arr 2 года назад

"so it's the method/style of manufacture that has to date before 1954 & not the actual sword ?" That's right.

@9crutnacker985 2 года назад

@@PMA65537 That dates back to the stone age & across many regions.

@iaidoman 2 года назад

As someone that is adept in Akido. If said attacker came at me with a bladed weapon, and I manipulated him in such a way that he caused severe injury to himself.... and when the police arrived, he still had hold of the said bladed weapon, sticking in his own leg. How would that play out in court? what defence could one use, if the said attacker said that he was attacked by me, and I grabbed him as he was in the process of removing the knife from his leg? Just askin' for a friend....

@petersmedley459 2 года назад

Reckon you’d be fine, you wouldn’t be in possession of the knife, he would. Bit like someone trying to hit you with a badly maintained axe, the head comes off at the top of their swing and lands on their noggin...no-ones going to take them seriously if they try to argue that it was your fault because if they didn’t feel a need to hit you then they wouldn’t have 2lbs of steel imbedded in their skull... You might be going a bit far if you tried to claim a hernia from laughing so hard as an aggravating feature though...😉

@tlangdon12 2 года назад

The police might ask why someone who is adept at Akido could not have disarmed the attacker or twisted his arm behind his back and arrested him. This is a question that 'your friend' needs to have discussed with their solicitor before deciding what to tell the police about how how the attacker became injured. In reality, the police and CPS understand that in a fight there really is no telling what the outcome will be, it is just chance whether the weapons ends up in your leg or the attacker's leg. In true self-defence situations there can be no time to evaluate risk; there is just the immediate need to protect oneself, so one does so, without thought of the consequences or risks. The police and CPS take this into account.

@petersmedley459 2 года назад

@@tlangdon12, I agree. Having a bit of background in this area, the memorable phrase which springs to mind is that “In the agony of the moment, one cannot be expected to weight matters to a nicety”...or, in more prosaic language ‘If shit goes south, sometimes shit happens’.

@ziggarillo 2 года назад

You weren't listening, daft question

@ziggarillo 2 года назад

@@tlangdon12 No one, that is actually NO ONE, is adept at disarming and assailant with a knife.

@donphilbin5659 2 года назад

What makes the police service exempt ?? If they use a weapon on me then I would use a weapon on them. Under "Common Law" in England people have the right to defend themself !!

@longrider42 2 года назад

P.S. as some one with a bad knee, when I go walking, I always use a cane. And back in the late 1700's through the 1800's, Gentlemen took a cane with them, not just for walking, but thrashing the odd evil doer. So is this a illegal thing for me to use in England? Of course I'd use my cane to defend myself, if it came to that.

@ScotsmanDougal 2 года назад

I once had a policeman tell me, for home defence, make sure you have a 3 or 4 'D' Cell battery, Mag-lite. They're heavy enough to cause some serious damage if you hit someone with one and it isn't a weapon.

@IAmTheOnlyMrDaryl 2 года назад

4 of them in a football sock

@spoxman1976 2 года назад

what about peeper spray gas/gel ?

@ianhill4585 2 года назад

Intent ,is a big thing. Many things can be used as a weapon, but are," items or tools", as soon as you say it's for self defence you are cooked! It's up to the law to prove your illegal carrying of the item, you can use a rolled up newspaper for example as a club,but it's not illegal to carry one .But it could ward off a mugger.So , entertainment or defence / offense?

@u45uify Год назад

what about a shield, like a literal round shield, would that be legal as its not even technically a "weapon" and was created for the purpose of self protection

@ZoltanF1LH 2 года назад

If you have an ornamental sword - not sharpened at all - (like you in the background), that's fully legal to keep in your home right?

@analiensaturn 2 года назад

What if you said the object was for preventing an attack, to deter an armed assailant? Just the sight of it is the only intent.

@theaikidoka 2 года назад

Well, then it's an item carried for the purpose of self-defence, and thus illegal. The fact is you COULD use it, even if YOU know that you wouldn't, and the Police certainly aren't going to take your word for it. If they had to take your word for it that you only carried an object for defence, you might as well carry a knife, a shotgun or a portable nuclear warhead - after all, it'll only get used if someone attacks you, right? As explained in the video, what the item is does not matter, only that it is carried for the sole reason of self defence. It's a bad law for the law-abiding potential victim, but an excellent law for preventing scumbags from carrying lethal objects wherever they like.

@queendaisy4528 Год назад

I have a question: are entirely defensive items prohibited under this act? For example, a bullet-proof vest or a shield? These items may not be considered “weapons” in the sense that it is difficult to cause someone harm with them, but their primary purpose is combative and they may be described as “weaponry” in the broader sense of the word.

@JanBruunAndersen Год назад

Bullet-proof vests, a clearly defensive "weapon", are illegal to wear for normal people in Sweden.

@theoretickle2084 2 года назад

If I regularly go for overnight walks, and I've decided that my brittle bone disease means that I cannot safely block hand/foot blows because my forearm bones might well break...then, I get children's shin guards stitched between the main fabric and the lining of my jacket sleeves, so that my bones are no longer in danger of breaking because they have a pure defensive item stopping that from happening...am I breaking the law, by going out with that jacket (or those jackets) on? Food for thought! The only use they have, in those jacket sleeves, is to DEFEND: they have no offensive application possible with them...would my going out, in those jackets, be legally safe to do?

@arguspanoptes9510 2 года назад

What is the standpoint on Tactical pens?

@TaZ101SAGA Год назад

1:05 And that my friends, is exactly what is wrong with this country. It is absolutely ridiculous and violates our basic human rights. With all these idiots carrying and using knives these days, what can the general public do to protect themselves?

@peterturner8766 2 года назад

Would one of those devices which give out a high frequency sound inaudible to adults but painful to young people amount to an offensive weapon, do you think? I ask because I have come across an example of one that caused such pain to a teenager who was simply walking on the pavement past a garden with one in.

@beeble2003 2 года назад

Pretty sure those are illegal.

@antreb15 2 года назад

Would you show us the Katanas you own, please?

@boilerhousegarage 2 года назад

If the law is unethical, like it is in the UK, you are morally obliged to ignore it for your own wellbeing and plan ahead against the second attack that the law itself now threatens you with. If you defend yourself from an attacker, end the immediate threat to yourself as soon as possible and by whatever means, then you need to escape the situation and not criminalise yourself by calling the police. With any luck, when the attacker wakes up in hospital, he'll be reluctant to report he was hit over the head with a telescopic baton while trying to mug someone.

@dhutchy77 2 года назад

Carrying and object such a torch on a dark dog walk knowing it COULD be used as an effective weapon is very different to carrying it because it is an effective weapon. Basically it’s for the police to prove intent for everyday objects that you may use, the more in place the objects is the harder this is to prove and even then 99% of the time that proof comes from an admission. Basically say nowt!

@tlangdon12 2 года назад

Exactly. Say nowt until you have spoken to a solicitor, and decided with them that self-defence is available to you as a defence.

@martinpoole1451 2 года назад

"What you say can and will be used against you".

@hifispock 2 года назад

Sounds like keeping a few empty bottles handy could come in useful…

@christal-clear4505 2 года назад

Watch the equaliser film, an intact solid bottle has its own uses

@jefftucker201 2 года назад

What about if you carry a shield or something else defensive? I realise you could still hurt someone by heating them with a shield but the main purpose of a shield is defence not offence so surly it would be hard for prosecution to prove you intended to use it for harm? Its a crap world were criminals can attack you with anything they like but you can' defend yourself with a pencil for fear of getting done.