What Are The Best BRAVE Arsenal Weapons (Tier List) | Destiny 2 Into The Light 

The best weapons are the friends we made along the way

Imo, blast furnace is the best PVE Pulse rifle. The only thing holding it back? It's a Pulse rifle.

Blast Furnace with Kinetic Tremors and Frenzy is the best pulse rifle in the game for PvE, non-exotic at least. It's almost like an Exotic as is.

As somebody who doesn't raid, being able to finally get Forbearance is nice. Shame I can't use my bazillion deepsight harmonizers on it though

Not so quick note about Luna’s vs Zaoli’s in PvE. As someone with over 6k kills on a max reload Luna’s with heal clip and incandescent and 22k kills on a crafted Zaoli’s bane (don’t really need to say the roll), both have their advantages and disadvantages. For example, when rocking Luna’s, in comparison to Zaoli’s it struggles to easily take care of yellow bars due to its lack of explosive payload, in most of my builds with Luna’s I run something like a recombination mountaintop or Riptide, or incinerator snap or bonk hammer, so I can chunk down yellow bars. Additionally for Zaoli’s, it has higher range due to EP and you don’t need to focus on the reload stat that much (just maybe flared mag well) because you don’t have heal clip. However, I’ve quickly fallen in love with using Luna’s for a few reasons. 1. I dislike Zaoli’s reload animation, 2. I’m a controller player, 3. Heal Clip carries harder than Datto does when player with Jez. Heal Clip is like a panic button, when I run out of resto, or I’ve messed up it activation or I’ve used by healing nade on an ally and I don’t have an sunspots up, it carries. A weapon doesn’t have to be the best in all types of PvE activities. For example, would I use Zaoli’s over Luna in Pantheon? Not a lot of the time, but in add dense sections, absolutely. If you have a crafted Zaoli’s, do you need Luna’s? No, not you don’t. If you have a Zaoli’s, should you play Onslaught till the point of brain rot (looking at you Midnight Coup), to get a godroll Luna’s, no. But if you get a Luna’s quickly or through more relaxed farming, should you use it. Yes. You have the ability to swap weapons in Destiny. No need to be a purist. I am talking from a privileged position as someone who got the godroll on the day it released, but that’s neither here nor there.

As someone with 1500+ hours who doesn’t do pvp or raids that often, most these weapons are amazing to be able to get.

Thank you cross for mentioning the benevolence sinergy with luna's howl, severely underrated gun for PvE

Mountaintop with Auto loading and recombination is a one of a kind roll and can near insta nuke a champion. Def S tier for me.

I've taken a shot every time Cross has said "enhanced perks" the last month, and now I have cirosis of the liver.

I don’t know, I love my shiny hung jury that I pulled from the chest and it has Kinetic tremors, firefly and indomitability especially since I’m a returning player from 2017.

Forbearance with Demo is crazy, you get full grenade off of 1-2 groups of ads

Recluse is practically the best void smg for PvE, it has repulsor brace and a dmg perk, and a fantastic origin perk, there are not a lot of good weapon with those combinations

recluse with desperate measures on a void contraverse hold warlock is really good. gives me the happy chemicals in my brain.

Couldn't agree more about heal clip. I don't get the hate. Specially since the rework

I’ve been using recluse with repulsor brace + desperate measures on a gyrfalcon’s build and really takes that build to the next level. Constant debuff and overshield + devour + even more nades with indomitability + constant x3 desperate measures. I run it with a witherhoard and b&s edge transit and its the perfect ad clear and dps hybrid. I’d put it high than S tier if I could

Superb content, thank you!

I actually love my encore/incandescent roll on luna. I have the heal/incandescent roll as well and I'm honestly using encore more often

While looking at the tier list please remember the way he hyped up the guns in the lower tiers in his other videos 😂😂

mountaintop with recombination is the best thing to come out of the brave weapons.

Recluse is great for lower level content but as soon as I do even a normal 50 run on onslaught you quickly feel the drop off after 10-20 waves

My midnight coup with explosive payload and opening shot has been putting in work on the new maps, definitely s tier for me. Also have a roll with firefly and one for all which has been a ton of fun in pve

First minute of the video made my heart drop 😂

I’ve got a buddy that hasn’t played since forsaken and he was most excited for hung jury. I really like Luna on mnk. Grinded out a 71 range eos/mag howl and got a we ran medal my first game with it. I haven’t gotten a we ran in a long time either.

As someone who has completions on Vow Of The Disciple but had never even had a trash roll of Forbearance never mind the god roll… Forbearance is far and away my favourite one and I’m only using Stats For All/Chain Reaction. It’s incredible.

Can't wait for the new special sidearm to have chain reaction. That thing is gonna be an ad clear monster

I grinded for all these and have different roles. I pulled an old weapon out of the vault a few days ago that I haven't used in a LONG time and it melts. Might want to take time to try those weapons you got stored in the vault but these Brave weapons may be the go-to for Final Shape.

I got a god rolled Recluse but I keep coming back to my Funnelweb. I like my Killing Wind/Frenzy roll. It just feels better.

My dilemma is I never tried Vow so I can’t craft forbearance. BUT I got the god-roll Brave version AND I got the god-roll adept version from Pantheon. Do I enhance both? Or use just one?

For PvP I’d say the top two are Blast Furnace and Luna’s Howl For PvE it’s Mountaintop and Edge Transit.

Midnight Coup and Elsie's are my favorite right now. I still need a Heal Clip/Incandescent Luna's. My Solar build currently uses Abyss Defiant.

Ik I'm a little late but, when they become enhanceable, can you change the 1st and 2nd column perks like if it were an adept?

I tried a few luna’s howl rolls but man, I just don’t feel like it’s worth it for me. I love zen moment on not forgetten and the extra range on pvp. I actually agree with this tier list.

2:45 how about weapon surges… so if there’s a void surge and you have an ideal Falling Guillotine and Bequest… then Guillotine is close enough that the 25% surge puts it over Bequest and is worth using. Yea many God Rolls are strong enough that they beat our surge But that’s not the case in this particular example.

Recluse with Repulsor Brace and a damage perk is amazing on my void build.

I don't care what anyone says, the brave forbearance with demo/wellspring is the god roll. Everyone seems to go for a demo or ambitious/chain reaction roll but the sheer utility of demo/wellspring + origin trait means you can ability spam then switch to forbearance for a few groups then you're right back to ability spam.

Demo and chain reaction forbearance goes hard on my fallen sunstar warlock build

Forbearance is an S tier because as someone who only got to run Vow like 3 times and never got one it is nice that it is available for everyone, no gatekeeping

Good thing you blurred a few of those out so you don’t completely spoil the rankings

I like this tier list for the most part. I would probably swap recluse and hung jury though. Unless we get a void artifact. It just didn’t feel great to me

Got a Hammerhead w/ Envious Assasin & Onslaught, i get up to 190 rounds in a clip firing at a rapid fire LMG rate. Add to that volatile rounds on a void build and it melts the map

Heal clip and incandescent. Must be nice. Ive counted 211 lunas drops and ive gotten my pvp rolls. But that one single roll eludes me

Forbearance demo chain reaction is too good

I've been using midnight coup in pve and PVP so much I still haven't even tried my Luna's howls rolls yet because I had the old ones and I miss the old mag howl and 180 rpm

The hauberk exotic with repulsed brace and destabilization sounds is absolutely amazing. Constantly invisible, devour is on almost all the time, and adds are taken care of.

I'm been grinding for guns but the drop rate on the shinny guns are horrible on legend onslaught. Hard to find solid players that can survive wave 48 & 49. Is the completion the only way to get a shinny drop. ?

Recluse I feel can get bumped up a tier but only if your running a Stylish Executioner/Gyrfalcons build. I have a Repulsor Brace/Surrounded roll for my void PVE build and it does some proper work, especially when paired with Tusk of The Boar but its so dependant on that build that its just not as good for anyone else.

I think the master of arms perk is nerfed in to irrelevance. But the saving grace for recluse for me at least is that unique repulsor brace/frenzy combo. I love repulsor but you always have to give up a damage perk or reload perk to get it. Frenzy serves as both so it's, imo, the natural pairing for repulsor brace.

My Zaouli's has gone from lv76 to lv251 this season. I got a Heal Clip/Incandescent Luna's roll on Monday of this week and I've already got close to 900 kills on it (admittedly those are all from Onslaught so a lot of enemies, but STILL). Zaouli's is amazing, but having Heal Clip is amazinger.

Lunas howl is my favorite pve hand cannon right now. Heal clips slaps so hard

i love them all. Not the sniper because i dont play them but the rest is great.

It’s hilarious how they made some raid weapons as brave weapons just to have all DLCs be free like a month later…

Zaouli’s Bane (Harrowed) or crafted with explosive payload incandescent is phenomenal. However, y’all should really try an adept igneous hammer with heal clip, incandescent, adept big ones. I have been using both hand cannons having loads of fun with them. Also why is nobody talking about adhortative? The pulse from this season can be crafted with heal clip, incandescent as well plus the origin perk Nano-Munitions is nice.

Repulsor Brace with Destabilizing Rounds on Recluse is pretty sweet

Forbearance Demo/Wellspring is mental!

I swear cross loves polarizing the audience at the start😊

I actually did want Hung Jury for the fourth time. I love that gun! The vanity plate on my Warlock's sparrow reads WLHUNG

So how is the crafting going to work for these? Should we be hoarding 5 of each to use harms on?

Not going to lie Luna's howl with heal clip and incandescent has made it one of my favorite weapons to use use with mantle of battle harmony. Simply because of the extra grenade cooldown (more grenades = more explosions or healing). It hits really hard as well, now I understand the appeal of Zaoli's, it is most definitely on my checklist of crafted weapons to get (Still missing one of the deepsight's), does Zaoli hit like a truck? yes. can it get utility perks that can work for ability builds? yes. However the one thing Zaoli cannot do that Luna's howl can DIRECTLY is heal its user via heal clip and is a better overall weapon for players to chase because it can also refund melee and grenade energy intrinsically and fits into builds better than Zaoli. Both are good, but luna's only edges it out because of the utility and ease of access.

I don't even like Hand Cannons but damn Midnight Coup feels so good

Quick question, do y’all think that Bungo will remove Bequest’s +10 impact damage? They did it with Matador, so they might do the same here. Obviously sword are niche in their usage outside of Crota, but Bequest crushes all other options aside from Eager Edge, so I’d at least keep a Frenzy plus surrounded roll of Falling just in case.

this would also be my list exept i never got forbearance from the raid really so that for me is also s tier :)

Forbearance is worth it for the Demo/Wellspring roll with thr origin trait. Perfect for if the chain reaction nerf is actually substantial and supplies almost instant grenades.

is there away you could show the god roll traits for them? it would be nice to have this list like this while im farming

Only other smg that can roll with repulsor brace and destabilizing rounds. The other one u can no longer get till the next Guardian games...best combo with gyrfalcon hunters

Blast Furnace with firefly and kinetic tremors is great.

I guess we don’t know what enhanced master of arms will be yet. It would be nice if it increased the damage versus just increasing the timer so the perk isn’t considered complete trash.

What is the song that plays at 1:20 when he really chooses the ranks?

This list is dukie and so is midnight. GL sir.

I have not found Hammerhead to be better than commemoration in any way. What's the roll I should be looking for?

What about deconstruct on Edge Transit?!? You get ammo back the whole time!

Aztecross never disappoints in terms of having opinions that seem completely random

Recluse hits a bit like a wet lettuce, and I always seem to be reloading it where I don't feel I get that with the hero's burden I don't feel that. I'm playing with it at the moment.

Edge lord Assassin and Full court great wamage 😁

This version of forbearance is just better than the raid one. Demo plus wellspring plus the orgin trait grants you A LOT of ability energy

If I had a midnight with your roll it would be my favorite HC too 😆

Luna howl with Incandescent/heal clip, with an auto loading/vorpal mountain top, and dragons breath is my favorite load out of the entire expansion. My titan is tanky as fuck and puts out mega boss dps while having great add clear.

Foreberance with wellspring+demolition+origin. Easy ability recharge off mobs

Yeah everybody thinking frenzy is good😂 me over here with Kinetic tremors and one for all doing 35% more damage😂😂😂

Will enhanced perks be on all rolls or just the Goldies?

With recluse in just happy i got one with volatile and destabilizing rounds. Other than that funnelweb is just better.

Deconstruct-Sticky-FieldPrep Edge transit has changed the game for me. Also, I think you overrate hammerhead, in the context of commemoration and retrofit escapade being as good (arguably more flexible) alternatives.

hung jury has really good base stats for scouts but it just feels bad to use for me no matter what roll i use, but i feel that way with most scout rifles

in what situations is midnight coup useful? i like the gun but haven't really seen a need for it.

So the only roll that forbearance has that's nuts that the crafted one doesn't have is wellspring demo with the orgin trait

I would still put hung jury above recluse from a usability perspective. They nerfed poor recluse so bad (and other smgs in pve tbh)

So if you played a lot in the recent months like me the only gun worth getting is probably mountaintop and maybe midnight coup. But i still think all of these weapons are really good and a great way for non raiders to get top tier guns.

I've tried the brave weapons in pvp the other day, and it they all felt like I was tickling other guardians

is bait and switch getting another nerf come final shape?

I tested an Edge Transit with Envious and Bait. It came out with 1.5 Mill zero surge mods too.

Mountaintop is the best kinetic gl in the game besides witherhoard but it doesn’t use your exotic slot. Auto loading recombination or frenzy is s tier

Endgame or onslaught boss fight wise I feel like Succession, Edge Transit and Falling Guillotine is S-Tier with the exact god rolls I'd say Hammerhead is up there but I'm not a person that uses killing tally or desperate measures to proc damage onto the boss

His original top three were unironically the first three I focused for.

Hey even tho I kinda got the godroll on the weapons that I wanted they are not gold but you don't need the gold versions right if you want enhanced traits it's any brave weapon right anyone know

Ngl he had me there for a second

The objectively correct assessment is: 1. Edge - S* (best heavy in the game) 2. Mountaintop - S (best dps slot 1 weapon for rotations, speedruns, and major clear) 3. Lunas howl - A (good HC all round but Bane is better as it has 15% extra damage more of a pve roll) 4. Forbearance - A (Only mildly better than the raid version not a lot of point in getting unless running a grenade build) 5. Elsie’s Rile - A (slot 2 messenger) 6. Blast furnace - A (best 4 burst pulse for pvp) 7. Midnight Coup - B (MID barely better than fatebringer as the origin perk carries it) 8. Hammerhead - B (Commemoration clears it) 9. Falling Guillotine - C (not as much utility as slammer and not as much dps as bequest) 10. Recluse - C (it’s just trash stop coping and run calus or ikelos instead) 11. Succession - D (mildly better than the raid version but run supremacy instead) 12. Hung Jury - D (unless using it for explosive shoot to loot for ammo pickup or Box for pvp [you rats] don’t even bother)

My favorite 2 weapons are pvp rolls of elsies rifle and blast furnace. Midnight coup is good too in both pvp and pve. All other weapons are good in its own way thr problem I have is how they took chroma rush away from us. They said it was originally a gun they was going to put into brave. It's annoying we didn't get a single auto rifle or fusion. But we got 2 pulses 2 hand cannons. I feel like we should got 1 gun of each type. I would have died for a gold chroma rush

For the new Forbearance i decided to make it different by having Demo and Wellspring

Hung jury has some good roll but we have literally had hung jury 3 or 4 different versions in the past few years

Everyone hating on Hung Jury, but the ex payload kinetic tremors roll will be meta when scout artefact mods come back around. HJ suddenly S-tier

How is Edge Transit the best heavy GL if Cataphract still exist??