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What are the Differences Between a Disc Problem and a Facet Problem? | Expert Physio Review 

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In this tutorial, we use our 3D anatomy model to show you the anatomy underlying Disc and Facet joint problems and use this understanding to then discuss the key differences in how they may present.
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@karmellakarmella6574
@karmellakarmella6574 8 месяцев назад
Hi Kalid, i have degenerative disc causing facet joints arthritis. I do have pain with extention😢 but the physical therapist taught me to do some core exercises, some of them helped ,other had aggravated the pain. Would you please suggest a video explaining necessary exercises,wether walking, swimming, pilates ,flexions and extensions regarding this DDD and facet joint arthritis? Thank you
@suhailvarachia584
@suhailvarachia584 Год назад
Thank you, excellent explanation!
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio Год назад
You’re very welcome!
@deeshea3286
@deeshea3286 5 месяцев назад
This was a great video, and so well explained. Thank you
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much!
@danmcnally4402
@danmcnally4402 Год назад
Hi Khalid, Thank you for providing such bite size reviews and backing things up with good, up-to-date research. I really value your channel in my own practice! :)
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio Год назад
You’re very welcome Dan! So glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching 🙏🏼
@ibrahimhussein9149
@ibrahimhussein9149 7 месяцев назад
Khalid could you please leave behind your contact for us
@vasileiospetropoulos2046
@vasileiospetropoulos2046 Год назад
Excellent as always my friend
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio Год назад
Efschiaristou!
@user-te2us7bi7k
@user-te2us7bi7k 4 месяца назад
Thanks for this update
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 3 месяца назад
You’re most welcome!
@alfred576
@alfred576 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for this video Khalid. My situation is more complex. How can I tell my pain is related to my left C6, C7 motor nerves or my left C5-C6, C7-C7 facet joints sensory nerves?
@trytolaugh2318
@trytolaugh2318 Год назад
Informative.. and Calming voice too btw mate.. great stuff
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio Год назад
Thank you so much!
@snowps1
@snowps1 6 месяцев назад
This is so helpful. 😊
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 6 месяцев назад
I’m very pleased to hear it! Thank you!
@njeganilovette1779
@njeganilovette1779 10 месяцев назад
Great Job keep on
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 10 месяцев назад
Thank you so much!
@ssekharnayak1117
@ssekharnayak1117 Год назад
Is there any physiotherapy solution for facet joint cyst ???
@victoriachubb572
@victoriachubb572 3 месяца назад
Brilliant!
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 3 месяца назад
Thank you so much!
@fizafatima8811
@fizafatima8811 5 месяцев назад
Helo KHALID SIR , I am loving your videos, so clarity in ur teaching style , need more sucg videos plz to cover as much as can relted to physio guidance , thanks
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much!
@kunoweil7294
@kunoweil7294 4 месяца назад
Two simple exercises,but very important Greetings from Germany
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 4 месяца назад
Danke Schoen!
@user-gc2pl4gn1n
@user-gc2pl4gn1n 8 месяцев назад
Have a disc protrusion at L5-S1 flexion flares it up, but sometimes doing McKenzie press ups if I go into full extension I feel a pain on the right hand side at that level. Wondering if the tight muscles from my protrusion is affecting my faucet joint?
@azkazaheer2179
@azkazaheer2179 Год назад
Hi khalid, Thank you for an useful and informative video on d/d the facet joint and disc problem. As you have mentioned about reassurance, i often encounter the question from my patients that how much time it will take to get better. So, is there any specific timeframe for improvement of low back pain or estimated prognosis thst could be helpful for educating patients?
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio Год назад
Hi! Standard is anywhere from 6-12 weeks really for most patients with low back pain… Naturally can be less than that with mild episodes, or more if symptoms turn into chronic symptoms. But generally the vast majority do improve 😊
@azkazaheer2179
@azkazaheer2179 Год назад
@@ClinicalPhysio Thanks :)
@ss-uz6kg
@ss-uz6kg Месяц назад
Hello sir in one of my pateint both flexion n extension is painful so no bias seen, radiculpathu ruled out , n its more like LS strain rt more than left...still wigh 3 days of session he is not feeling any better, have also seen SI jointbtest r positive as mentioned....so wt possible test left if u coudl share sum knowledge on this. Thanku
@Michaah
@Michaah Год назад
the manual therapy textbook I own says that flexion and extension pain/problems may be due to the facet joints. they have to be able to move in order to function so it seems plausible to me that they might cause pain in all directions
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio Год назад
Hey Michael! Sure that certainly makes sense, I think as mentioned on the video, what was discussed is perhaps the anatomical suggestion but may not be the case all the time with every patient you have. In either case, treat what you see!
@stephen9013
@stephen9013 7 месяцев назад
People are not 'textbooks' so as Khalid states treat what you see!
@MrShidokan
@MrShidokan Год назад
Hi Khalid, I noticed you mentioning about the latest research papers when you present your subject. Can you please make a couple of videos about how to read a research paper regarding evidence-based practice in physiotherapy? on the other hand, maybe a video about the definitions of terms like systemic review, randomized experiments, and other terms you might find essential to know when it comes to research materials. Thanks in advance :)
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio Год назад
Thank you so much for watching - that’s a nice idea I’ll see if I can sort something 👍🏼
@MrShidokan
@MrShidokan Год назад
@Clinical Physio Thanks, Khalid. I will be waiting for it hopefully soon 🙏
@timothyvanpelt_cyclist
@timothyvanpelt_cyclist 11 месяцев назад
A video on how to interpret phsyiotherapy research papers could be interesting! Definitions of terms like systematic reviews and such not so much, you can easily already find explanations about those.
@Stigz34
@Stigz34 9 месяцев назад
anything on upper ?
@HeyIntegrity
@HeyIntegrity 8 месяцев назад
Disks don't generally give problem with rotation right? And how about old compression fractures with anterior wedging. They are a problem with flexion and not extension and rotation?
@user-lc3ih7gp6j
@user-lc3ih7gp6j 8 месяцев назад
Hello, is there any chance for facet joint in the neck to cause radiculopathy symptoms to the arm? I do have pain to my left arm and hand. MRI showed c5-c6 and c6-c7 bulging discs yet two doctors after clinical examinations along with checking my MRI, say my arm pain is probably caused by facet joint or other issues and not from the discs
@debra2700
@debra2700 5 месяцев назад
I had the same pain issues you have and had a degenerating C6-7 disc replaced. The other disks looked fine. The surgeon assured me that once he freed up the nerve that the disc was pressing on and put in a new disk, the first thing I noticed when I woke up was that I was pain free which I was for three whole days and then the pain came back with a vengeance. Almost three months after surgery, the surgeon is baffled as to why I'm still in severe pain and wants me to have a facet joint test and a test where they use needles to try to find another nerve that might be the source of my problem. Cortisone shots haven't helped me and I'm on a low level of oxycodone and a muscle relaxer. I refuse to have the facet test because none of my symptoms match it and I think the surgeon is just grasping at straws. He says he has NEVER seen a patient not do well after disc replacement and the pain management doctor says it's not uncommon and claims the nerve that was freed up is inflamed and I need to give it time. Welcome to my personal hell.
@gerlandodiscoambra8647
@gerlandodiscoambra8647 Год назад
Hello Khalid, Are we still talking about specif and non-specific low back pain? If so, would this category fall within the non-specific one? Thank you for your amazing videos 🙏🙏🔥😊
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio Год назад
You’re very welcome Gerlando! Generally speaking with NSLBP, you might be suggesting that it’s not totally clear whether or not there is a SPECIFIC structure involved. I.E. we are not clear if it is disc, facet or otherwise. So one would say that if you feel for example that it’s specifically a facet because worse with extension + SF towards , and eases with flexion, then we can be more specific with our diagnosis By the way, there is absolutely no problem with NSLBP, as at the end of the day, using education + advice + reassurance + exercises in a direction which is preferable to the patient is exactly what we would do with specific LBP anyway!!
@gerlandodiscoambra8647
@gerlandodiscoambra8647 Год назад
@@ClinicalPhysio amazing answer. Thank you so much for clarification Khalid 🙏
@dh7314
@dh7314 9 месяцев назад
Facet-nating video, thanks
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 9 месяцев назад
😂 thank you!
@KT-bh6tr
@KT-bh6tr 2 месяца назад
Ha ha! Good one! 😂
@24hrs365
@24hrs365 7 месяцев назад
If a person has both of these issues can you treat them both or is it a case of treating one until its pain free then treat the other issue.
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 7 месяцев назад
Can absolutely treat both!
@DannyPacheco-to4fi
@DannyPacheco-to4fi 2 месяца назад
Unfortunately the Dr that ordered this lumbar MRI (rheumatologist) isnt akin to explaining it but heres what it said: L4-5 disc bulging with mild spinal canal stenosis and subarticular recess stenosis impinging upon the descending bilateral L5 nerves with mild bilateral neural foraminal stenosis present. Can this explain.my sciatic pain and some nerve/sensation issues on my right leg and groin area?
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 2 месяца назад
Hi! It could do yes but I would suggest more than anything that you go back to Dr to have the chat with them more thoroughly 🙏🏼
@DannyPacheco-to4fi
@DannyPacheco-to4fi 2 месяца назад
@ClinicalPhysio thanks. I would go back to that Dr now but what I should have said is that he can't talk about it bc he closed up shop recently and supposedly moved to California (and I kid u not) pursue his dream of acting. So need to find a new dr I guess or discuss with my new pcp.
@berkaygurcan141
@berkaygurcan141 8 месяцев назад
İs pain always my life for faset joint ?
@pandaon7594
@pandaon7594 Месяц назад
Thank you for the video! How would you be able to differentiate axial low back pain from lumbar stenosis vs disc problem?
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio Месяц назад
Great suggestion! Sounds like a future video!
@tamaramartin4015
@tamaramartin4015 8 месяцев назад
My latest MRI showed both disc and facet problems. Yay, me 😛🥳
@elviapina5943
@elviapina5943 Месяц назад
Same here, how are you feeling now?
@tamaramartin4015
@tamaramartin4015 Месяц назад
@@elviapina5943 i'm feeling pretty good right now, thank you. i had some PT with a new therapist who told me that my flares and a lot of my pain, wherever it happens to be in the body, can be caused by stress. She encouraged me to notice when i'm hurting and stressed at the same time, and taught me some exercises for both strength and stress, and all of that has made a huge difference. How are you feeling these days?
@jojo-gj6gf
@jojo-gj6gf 3 месяца назад
I have disc and facet joint issues, what exercises can I do with both issues?
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 3 месяца назад
Hi! I would definitely see a physiotherapist for thorough assessment and advice to help you!
@jojo-gj6gf
@jojo-gj6gf 3 месяца назад
@@ClinicalPhysio thanks
@787Speedbrakes
@787Speedbrakes 7 месяцев назад
Actually watching this in my patient room before going in to have nerve degeneration surgery on my L4/L5 Facet Joint! (Odd how this was recommended. Who says your devices aren’t listening!)
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 7 месяцев назад
Wish you all the best! 🙏🏼
@Tasha08
@Tasha08 8 месяцев назад
Please name the category of specialist , is it orthopaedic or rheumatoid specialist or neurologist
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 8 месяцев назад
I would say Musculoskeletal!
@user-qg5sz6us8o
@user-qg5sz6us8o 6 месяцев назад
Sometimes there is pain in both flex and ext of lumbar,what can be the source of pain?how to manage this situation when there is no directional preferanc?!
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 6 месяцев назад
Great question! As you said, and as I hope the video explains, it is not always like in a textbook! We have a full webinar on membership called “low back pain rehab” that goes through lots of different rehab ideas!
@sukhendu1974
@sukhendu1974 5 месяцев назад
DEAR SIR, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUST YOU TO UPLOAD DETAIL VEDIO OF ROOT CAUSE / IMBALANCE OF SWAY BACK POSTURE, SYMPTOMS & EXERCISE TO BE DONE TO GET RID OF SWAY BACK POSTURE. I HAVE STUDIED SWAY BACK DEFORMITIES IN ORTHOPEDIC PHYSICAL ASSESMENT BY DAVID. J MAGEE BUT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND BY COMMON PEOPLE LIKE US.
@peteperic1783
@peteperic1783 Месяц назад
Hi haveing a lot of pain when i sit down could this be facet joint problems 😢
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio Месяц назад
Please do get yourself seen within physiotherapy if you are concerned
@andonii46
@andonii46 10 месяцев назад
And what about having both lumbar disk and facet issues? Generally speaking one preceeds the other!
@canim0402
@canim0402 9 месяцев назад
I would love to know that too as I'm suffering from both 😓
@andonii46
@andonii46 9 месяцев назад
@@canim0402 me too, and I'm fed up with useless videos not covering the combined symptomatic to be honest :(
@freebirdpeg
@freebirdpeg 8 месяцев назад
Both!! Notice he didn't answer this question. 👎
@andonii46
@andonii46 8 месяцев назад
@@freebirdpegno one does
@Joe48331
@Joe48331 7 месяцев назад
Yep! I have both and no mention of what treatment is available.. catch 22
@regii2750
@regii2750 5 месяцев назад
I do have both what to do...
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 5 месяцев назад
I would absolutely advise to get yourself an appointment with a physiotherapist to find what exercises and activities you can do that works for you!
@regii2750
@regii2750 5 месяцев назад
@@ClinicalPhysio doing it, but i got symptoms in a random way not by doing specific thing
@clevemallari
@clevemallari 3 месяца назад
Hi. What if I have pain in both flexion and extension?
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 3 месяца назад
Hi! May not be as easy and simple over the internet but if you have specific queries about your own back I would always recommend getting assessed properly by a physio or Dr!
@clevemallari
@clevemallari 3 месяца назад
@@ClinicalPhysio Thank you. I'll get a proper diagnosis abroad. I live in a developing country.
@IceMan-wj4wg
@IceMan-wj4wg 2 месяца назад
Been having horrible disc pain for over 2 years now. Nothing works, i have tried all kinds of exercises and treatments and even discectomy, nothing works.
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 2 месяца назад
So sorry to hear that 🙏🏼
@ERROR.4O4.
@ERROR.4O4. 6 месяцев назад
I wish the pain doctors and specialists I deal with took the time to explain things this way but realistically they are over worked and under staffed so they tend to rush through the consultation. 🙃
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 6 месяцев назад
Wishing you all the best 🙏🏼
@Kambo870
@Kambo870 5 месяцев назад
Anybody here pain travel from the back to the stomach?
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 5 месяцев назад
The best advice I could give you is please do visit a physio or Dr for a review
@Gina19876
@Gina19876 4 месяца назад
There's nothing more painful.
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 4 месяца назад
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@rosemyers2165
@rosemyers2165 3 месяца назад
I’m Not sure what is wrong with my lower back. There is a type of pain that is hard to describe. But when I walk and stand up, it feels like it tightens up in the lower part of my back , right around the spine : In a way, it’s numb, but feels kind of like I have several pounds of sand packed under my skin that quickly em weighs my back down and I feel like I need to bend over or sit down. It’s not like a stabbing pain .. it just sort of heats up and becomes the only thing I can think about and in seconds I feel like I need to take pressure off and arch my back while resting my legs or sitting. Does that sound like arthritis. I’d say it’s somewhere between Maybe T11 T12 L1- L4 maybe. It’s hard to pinpoint. That whole area feels wrong.
@ClinicalPhysio
@ClinicalPhysio 3 месяца назад
So sorry to hear it is getting to you, would always recommend seeing a Dr or Physio for assessment and treatment if you are concerned
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