What are the MOST USELESS units in StarCraft 2 

The most useless units are whatever I produce

I lived the era where mass early reapers will not only hit and run early workers, they will delete and run bases. I lived the era where mass Voidrays was simply unstoppable. And I do remember Swarm hosts being the best way to siege and deplete enemy resources while making the esports public terribly bored

I lived long enough to see the void ray become weak in the meta.

Ultralisks : "that was a close one!"

Man just listed 3 units that are weak cuz at times they were so strong they had to be nerfed to oblivion

For cost and all I feel like the top of the top is the Mothership. That unit is the unit to go, when you truly want to throw away 400/400 for no reason - terrible damage, high cost, ultra late tier, useless abilities... you name it. Reaper can be use for early scout, VR still can do some damage, so does SH, Mothership does nothing lol, literally

This video: reapers are useless. Byun: hold my beer.

"Useless units"? - laughs in Uthermal 😂

Calling reaper useless is insane, the strongest opening unit by far, it has its job and does it flawlessly, thats the definition of useful 😂

Funny how Void Ray got on the list. When SC2 just came out, mass void ray was the most goto strategy for the 'Toss

For the Campaign personally i love Swarm Hosts especially with the Burrow ability and how they can move trough the entire map as long as there is creep Regardless of how hard you can just leave them somewhere and they will harras your oponent and slowly whitle them down

Eh, I disagree on the Void Ray for Protoss. They still synergize well with Carriers, they're still useful against Stalker/Immortal armies and they're still a decent opener against Zerg (though not as good as they were circa 2020). They're not good en masse like they used to be, but they're far from useless and they arent as rigid in their niche as some other units Protoss has I'd say it's either Adepts, Colossi, or Tempests -Adepts for similar reasons to the Reaper--in most MUs they fall off too hard in midgame and dont see much use past early scout/harass. Once the opponent has Marauders, Stalkers, Roaches or air units, they arent remotely useful anymore (hell, even Marine armies at similar supply count trade well against them as the game goes on) -Colossi fill a similar role to Disruptors as a long range splash unit, but are limited to being effective against only light units. The fact that they cant shoot up and air attacks can hit them makes them an expensive liability much of the time. -Tempests are pretty niche now after the nerfs and shift in meta away from the trench and siege wars that defined HOTS. On both the ladder and in the pro circuit, they really arent used much aside from some cheese builds. They're borderline useless in PvP, really only useful in PvT when the Terran is going heavy on Liberators or makes the bizarre decision to turtle up with mech and not build Vikings/Thors, and really only useful in PvZ as an emergency response to Brood Lords (which arent used much against Protoss anyway)

Disagreed on Swarmhosts, they have a definite place in most metas so far, as to counter a heavy early mech switch from terrans, where zergling and baneling busts can be too innefficient and hazardous. The term useless would not be as coherent as what units are the lless used in my opinion. Mentionning that the reaper is the most useless terran unit is . . . questionnable at most, used in all matchups, in 90% of all builds . . . more than the raven or battlecruiser. I feel that this is wholly innacurate. But regardless, some amusing content, may you have a good day.

terran without reaper would be almost unplayable

Protoss should be the adept, is basically the Protoss version of the Reaper, good for scout and some harassment on the early game but it becomes useless extremely quickly

I think reapers are both more produced overall (# produced) and more commonly produced (% of games with at least 1 reaper) than thors are. They're both pretty good units though. For protoss probably the mothership is the least-produced unit, though it has a pretty big disadvantage where it needs a very particular game state to be useful. At the end of the day, though, the fact that all the rarest units still show up from time to time in a game with like 60ish units or so is a sign of a pretty well-balanced game. I don't think there is a huge need for a balance patch to come out and shake things up.

Pretty sure reaper and adept should be on the same tier

Reaper being useless is definitely a hot take. Viking or cyclone are prolly a lot more useless (cyclones have their strength in cheese/early game, but battle mech sucks). The Viking is also trash. Reaper is an amazing scouting tool.

Lately, with all this balance talk around the recent patch, I've been thinking starcraft 2 just needs to be rebuilt from scratch. A starcraft 3 if you will. Hell, it's about time.

I remember the good ol days of reaper cheesing with bunkers. Even gave the best Zerg players in the world a struggle, and I think Fruitdealer went on record saying, even after winning, he was tired of the uphill battle as Zerg

I remember when WoL first came out. Man, Corruptors were just so stupid. Their initial concept of turning enemy air units to your side was cool, but didn't make the cut. So they added a lame spell just to make sense of its name. It dies to Vikings and Voids, which were well-used units, and for a supposed "capital ship counter", you'd need a LOT of them just so they can do their job against units that aren't really common. They eventually found a niche as colossus killers, but that's probably because collosi can't shoot up 😂

У терранов есть еще Баньши, Которые даже с мувспид апгрэйдом не могут улететь от муты. А апгрэйд строился миллион лет, и стоил как яхта.

So, it's a list of what overpowered units got nerfed so hard they became useless.

Dude you're so wrong. Reaper is staple of terran early game in almost all matchups. Reaper rushes are super common and they can make or brake a game just by amount of dmg they deal early game. Void ray is part of ultimate late game composition and hard counter to corruptors which is super important if you go carriers, much more useful then tempest.

Br fr said Void Ray instead of Mothership

Shid. I never used Reapers a whole lot, but I'll tell you what, having a couple of them following random units inside your bioball was great at helping to deter Ling surrounds and the like..

I’d like to argue for Protoss that the void ray is not the most useless it’s the adepts or carriers. Adepts are only good for all ins early game and carriers absolutely suck late game. Imagine having a 400 hp unit that needs ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO ATTACK.

Swarmhosts seem to be the only choice vs tank OTHER than teching alll the way to broods. Maybe 10 swarmhosts can really annoy a turtling terran!

The reapers are certainly not useless. They are made in almost every game, far from a useless unit

Protoss race has the most useless units imo

Most useless Protoss units are carriers, and I know that everyone will say otherwise, but it is super hard to get carriers out without dying, start making them too early and you die to lings, or roaches, get them out too late means dying to lurker, hydra, ling, bane, or muta ling bane

Void rays being bad makes me feel like Boomer old... they used to be a terror.

"Useless units", that depends who control it, even in multiplayer games.

XD???!!! The motheahip is the least useful unit in the entire game and adept use fades away as well

This guy never played Byun.

Man I remember when the game launched all people did was spam VR as toss

Swarm host is a must if you play against early tanks push. Also good with a meck and heavy static deffence. Not playing them against Protos

The reaper has the werid place here. How do you rank a unit that literally sees play in almost every game but usually only 1 or 2 are made in the very early game and that's it

Every unit mentioned was at one point completely broken and very bad for the game's health. So the fact that they are considered 'useless' is a probably a good thing.

You clearly havent faced someone who make 40+ reapers and control them like a champ (I think it's just my skill issue tbh)

Almost every Protoss unit?

'Flying chandelier' as it used to be called

Most useless units are half of the Protoss units.

Imo Tempest is much less likely to be used than Voidrays right now, so I think it deserves the title for most useless unit for Protoss.

Reaper is called useless after a couple of minutes into the game... Adept has entered the chat.

They are not useless but require enemy to A move when they lose in unit composition

I kinda wish they gave the Reaper his anti-structure grenades back. Like, give it in an upgrade at the Tech Lab that requires an Armory or Fusion Core. That way, it comes out later in the game. I kinda like the idea of a Terran getting a hitsquad of like 10-15 reapers, then use that hitsquad to try and snipe things like Evolution Chambers, Pylons, or Add-Ons in the late mid-game. It seems like it'd be a lesser variant of that DT Blink strategy pros used to snipe CCs, Hatches, and Nexi, except reapers don't have access to permacloak or blink. I don't know shit about balance though, so I'm not sure if it'd be broken or not. After all, Byun could probably end reality if he had access to reaper grenades.

I remember I made Thor to counter mutalisk but they ended up dead shooting zerglings. Boy how much I missed goliath

Through the game's history, reapers have been either a suffocating force of early or completely useless , no in-between

Deleted StarCraft 2 units link?

i main as toss. or used to back then. void rays and motherships are too expensive for their output. not useless but definitely falls into ‘luxury units’. unnecessary at best.

Reaper is a weird choice. 1-2 are built basically every game. It feels like calling observers useless because they have bad dps

How do you download this game anymore?

Reaper was a mistake, bring back firebats.

I lost one game to a dude that did only reapers. That was insane. Yeah, I'm just platinum1-3

Yeah tempest kinda needs to synergise with static defence to become powerful, and in the ladder map pool thats pretty unrealistic unless you go proxy void into tempest now which isn't really worth it after the void nerf

If you don't have good multitasking skills and High APM, Reapers are definitely the worst.

I feel like Hellbat should be on there, because Reaper is very often used, while Hellbat is seldom used.

In low grade matches void Ray is Op if someone doesn't know that Marines are the answer you die

In zvt ground mech with thor as correct units. Zerg s right response is to make thorx2 amount swarm. Reaper is in fact quite good in the late game. When Terran go bio they end up with lots of gas and reaper is better than marine if you don't gave medivac and there are only few units in the game can out run them.

me trying to mass voidray 20 minutes into a losing game

I vote for Ultras. Tier 3, prerequisite melee, carapace, and two additional upgrades, are super expensive, get in the way of each other, and are hard countered by marauder, widow mine, ghosts, thors, cyclone, immortal, disruptor, lurkers, and any kind of air unit...

only terrans are stupid enough to build reapers.

Bruh they ruined the immortals shield, everything has to be micro nowadays its ridiculous

Never saw that bottom bar.

bullshits, void rays are good counters to all cheese opener, its a very solid unit to defend against cheese, roach rush, nydus worm swarm host, bunker rush , 16 pools ..cannon rush ...accompanied by battery , its a very solid defense units

Awesome video as always

I dont think any of the zerg units are underused Adepts and reapers are both used about 3 times early game and them never really made again, save for the one or two times someone researches the gloves upgrade and then maybe you'll see a good number of adepts.

I never thought I'd hear void rays are useless. Does anyone remember when this game came out in 2010 and the best strategy was Marine and Marauder drop and roach rush? Good times...

For T it's either the Reaper or the Raven. Reaper is only used for early harrass and nobody uses the Raven at all. For P it's probably the Oracle. Nobody uses that besides from early harrass on the mineral line. For Z I'm going for either Ultralisk or _maybe_ Viper. I'm Z and don't bother with either, I play in Plat and also seldom see them. Ultra is making a slight comeback but Viper no.

I'd stick the Adept on top for Protoss, instead of the Void Ray. Like the Reaper, the Adept starts out strong, then falls off like a dress after prom. Void Rays are common in PvZ and they actually have some late game utility.

only thing correct with his statement is that every unit has their own uses. so yeah none of them are useless. weird that they never mentioned ultralisk

what's the usecase of the tempest, it has low dps and slow move, it is also expensive and it's a T3 unit

Ultralisks: *heavy sweating*

Рипер, который все время делает вылазки 🗿🗿🗿

I don't think it's quite that simple. When a unit is weak or niche, it won't be used much, but that can also be true when it's strong. Why, though? When a unit is very strong, the opponent will avoid scenarios where that unit can be used. A good example is the swarm host, which is very good against mech. Terran players opt to avoid mech play because of the swarm host being strong, and this in turn makes the swarm host uncommon in TvZ.

void rays are in every game multi-player i should know I've been carried to master 1 with my gm friends and maplez loves his void rays

Yo diría que la tempest es mucho más inútil que el voidray, el voidray sirve para anular el scout, para defender una tercera temprana en contra de zerg, para proteger a la flota de los corruptors, para hacer pedazos el mech Terran combinada con inmortals y además es brutal en el pvp

how come void ray is useless? Zerg still use corruptors no?

Scourge. That why they removed units.

The oracle😂

Dude clearly doesn't play or go up against zerg. Swarm hosts can pop in and out using a nitus network then one shot base structures for zero resources lost. You can cheese your way up the ranks easily.

Lol you can use them for "harass only" Player loses half their main and their 3rd expansion to nydus swarm host "harass"

i dont know wr can say somting like that abaut reapers, thor is end game units so is not like he is bad, in the same way only erly unit cant be bad

reaper should have the special attack vs building like in campagne and coop

Reapers are the equivalent of Zerg hounds.

Hydralisks:I am improtant range place in starcraft 1, But Starcraft 2 Roach are Replace my position.

Voidray isn't the most useless units. It's the most overpowering unit from my experience in multiplayer. The sentry is the useless unit. Protoss barely trains that unit.

I think you mixed up uncommon with useless

its definitely not the reaper for terran.

Make unit tier list

Voidrays are constantly being pacthed and tweaked. Swarmhosts meet the updates quite often. Reapers never saw a change since Byun. They literally was present only in two balance updates since 2015, and they both were nerfs to Byun micro. #ReaperLivesMatter

Niche unit used for harass only, I feel we are playing completely different games

literally just watched a short on how strong reapers are then come to this one and he's saying they suck while obviously not being able to micro them properly lol

The vulture

Zerg: I agree with the Swarm Host. He can be annoying, but if you catch them all, they usually weren't worth their money. Otherwise Infested Terran :D Terran: Hmm I think Thor, because too big, too slow, too expensive and how they move isn't good. They show up now and then, but you almost never really need him. Protoss: Colossus and Tempest (everything has already been said about them).

adepts also lose value after a little while

all the units listed here are used in competitive gaming...

Yes Swarmhost is just for harass would not recommend using it at all. Brood lords are better and I would rather have hydras and roaches anyway.

Swarm hosts are capable of taking down buildings for free, surely that’s not useless