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I was thinking the exact same thing. Terran is honestly pretty accurate too. Dug-in strongholds that just have to outlast the swarm until a fleet large enough to scour the rest of the planet clean of the overwhelming number of Zerg arrives to save them. You just have to hold out against the clock and budget your resources so carefully, or you're doomed to be overrun before help comes.
71 attempts, 5 games a week, you've been working on this for 3.5 months? And you did live commentary on the first 50.. Holy crap, the amount of effort you put in for us is crazy. Love your content, so happy you exist.
Thats why one machine learning ai > 10000000000000000000 ais. Gonna beat you out everytime. The world is becoming scary now that machine learning algos are exponentially becoming stronger
Marines whisper stories to recruits of Commander Thermal, the man who led a battalion of troops against the overwhelming full might of the Zerg and WON. His crusade lasted throughout several days and nights as he crushed hive after hive of Zerg. His men never flinched or faltered in the face of adversity and they say his name sends shivers down the back of even the strongest of Zerg.
For anyone wondering about the efficiency of him in Total: 370,050 : 21,962 Resources. That's a ratio of 16.85. Every AI lost on average almost 3 times as much as him. And the one with the most resources lost lost 3.8 times as much. Great Game. Very interesting to watch and to see the development, that went into that. Congratulations!!
Genuinely filling the void that Beastyqt left with videos like these! Thanks for giving the run 71 freaking attempts because it was very enjoyable to watch
This is, in my opinion, the ultimate expression of "Zerg vs Terran". Endless hordes of alien biomass crashing against a thin line of camped Terran defenders who are always barely on the edge of being overwhelmed. So good! Mayhaps the community should nickname this challenge "The Battle of Macragge"
@starcraft2own nit sure what you mean, I really enjoy 40k and I enjoy starcraft 2. I don't care about all the meta arguments, cool space shit is just cool space shit.
I don't mean to take away from what he did at all but 71 attempts is not that bad. he said that his highest attempts were 22 minutes but to be generous I'll say each attempt was 20 minutes. That's only about 23 hours, which is a lot, but many speedrunners grind for hundreds or thousands of hours to break world records.
This was amazing all the way. The commentary was super engaging and entertaining. I definitely would love to see more. Congrats on getting the W and keep it up man!
What freaks me out is that even if the Ai have 20000:- minerals left and no gas they make max 20 lings to attack with and when they die they make 20 more. The bug with the liberator is also a known fact especially vs Zerg but even Toss struggles with it, the only race that can deal with it prorperly is the Terran dominion.
You know that is what I love about strategy games. To be able to adapt to any kind of situation as crazy as it might be (1v7 AI) and to think about new strategies. I like tournament 1v1 StarCraft, but it is kinda formulaic and static in that regard. I prefer something fresh like this where you have to play completely differently and pioneer new build :) Congrats on the win.
I'd be interested to see how a 1v1 format with 6 other AIs would play out. Of course, to put together a bracket, you would need a lot more people willing to try--and good enough to beat--this kind of challenge.
Brother I've been watching your videos every single day ever since a few weeks ago when the algorithm hooked me up and put your videos on my feed. Love the content. I don't even play starcraft anymore just watch it occasionally and I'm having tons of fun watching your stuff.
Not only did I "Really enjoy" this video, I've come back and rewatched it several times. It really is an incredibly impressive achievement! No bullshit, I couldn't best ONE "Insane Cheater AI". AND YOU BESTED 7 AT ONCE!! Very, very GG.
The fact that you actually achieved this speaks volumes on how big brained you are and how dedicated you can be when you mak eyour mind up! Congrats man! I hope PiG gives you that $100 haha
one thing that i realized why i like your challenges is that when you focus on 1-2 units only, it becomes much easier to understand their strengths and weaknesses. starcraft looks like an overwhelmingly complex game when there's so many options to follow, but when you're limited to just one tool, it's much easier to grasp why it's good and when it's bad.
I think thats where the campaign succeeds in explaining what the different units do. some missions you have to use air some you have to use ground. it explores defensive missions and offensive missions
@@coltonmullis8880 except that campaign units are dramatically different mechanically from the units in pvp. actually the hardest part for me was transitioning from after finishing the campaign to pvp. many units are not even present in the campaign at all (firebats, ravagers, etc) and many units function dramatically differently (lurkers, banelings, etc). pvp units obviously don't have campaign mechanical upgrades.
Absolutely the greatest SC2 creator and easily one of the best players in the world, I can't wait to see what you will accomplish. keep it up we love you marc.
Oh rly? Seeing him for first time when I was top 100 in first season. Also top eu wc3 player but for me it looked like lazy in the fights that I've been watching on fast forward. Maybe it's cuz of the knowledge playing against Ai and he studied it but this shouldn't happen online
JUST INSANE uThermal i am a silenced watcher of your videos in Germany and i most say SOOOOO CRAZY to see this holds. its also so Stastifining to see all that siegetanks destroying the ultras. it makes me so proud of you gj man. Love to see more challenges maybe Viking Marine to Grandmaster or so ! ;D
Good grief. After fighting 5 AI in Brood War, I can literally feel the tension in those first 20 minutes or so. "Please let the CC hold, please let the CC hold." Kudos and well-deserved congratulations on the record. Definitely a Good Game and Well-Played.
Good ol brood war flashbacks.... 1v7 easiest was always terran vs all zerg.... Then terran vs all random then protoss vs all zerg.... and then protoss vs all random and zerg vs anything I have yet to complete..... I would say they all follow the same guidelines tho and I believe serral is only half right when he says it's impossible due to the fact that the only survivability he has when it comes to repair take way to much attention to complete and is not able to auto cast.... Which is what makes terran the easiest them sneaky snake Bois
@@zachjones7745 AI in BW was dumb though, it would come at you early and hard and once you survive that, the AI just gives up. I say "once you survive that" like its easy though lol
@@Draelyn I agree to a point... However it was more than once.. with that being said they still follow the same behavior almost as if they are still using the same AI... They run at you hard until they have no minerals left and then they keep around just enough supply to make them feel like they can defend that combined with the random static defense... I would say it's only different in sc2 because they have 50%more minerals and mine faster with more options at strategy as well as in that certain setting they are not constrained in the sense they have to act like a human like brood war attempts
@@zachjones7745 I remember doing PvsT, and rush dts, you could send out like 2 before they attack, and after that it became a shit show :D But yeah fun times, 20 years ago or so when I could macro
Wow. I watch your challenges to GM and this is the first i've seen anything like this. 71 attempts and the current pros couldn't do it? This was fascinating to watch. You know so much about what they do. your voice over is great to explain why you're doing what you're doing. I don't blame you for not live commentating and it doesn't take anything away. This was insane and a great watch. Mark, you rock
Absolutely amazing game! As a fellow challenge player in the games I play/stream, I love seeing the perseverance and persistence on display. I think your community would love to see you attempt the same settings versus Terran and then Protoss. Then perhaps, if you're not completely burned-out from this challenge, the same settings but all random. Congratulations uThermal on an amazing challenge victory! Can we confirm this is a World First!?
I think in this fashion, it is a world first, as far as I know. Considering PiG got a few pros together to attempt this not so long ago, saying nobody ever managed to do it, I think it's fair to say it is a world first
The memories with the game. I never understood how they amassed armies instantly. Now I see. Nice work and I know the feel when you're finally beat a threshold. Congrats.
Awesome Video. Congratulations. Well done. :) 38:00 Sometime depending on build, some AI won't surrender while they have defensive structures (turrets etc.) and enough money to make a drone.
when i used to play sc broodwar with my uncle we used to do 2v7 ai - absurdly easy by comparison obviously - and that always felt so great when we actually did it. this reminded me of that alot and was a great nostalgia trip
Technically speaking this would've been a tiny bit harder back when Infested Terran were still around, as the AI isn't programmed to use microbial shroud.
I know nothing about StarCraft but I like how you do the thing. Really shows you know what you're doing and your explanation commentary sounds very helpful. Congrats on the win!
Woooowww more then a million views!!! You deserve it, i never knew how your personality was before you did the Zerg videos. I now have 3 races to see. Lowko/pig zerg, Harstem protões, and uThermal as terran
Congrats on the world record Man! I really enjoyed this challenge, as I'm sure all of us did. And hell, of course I'd like to see you try against other races and also against random. But no pressures, its just for fun ;)
Great video. Also interesting to see a compilation of unsuccessful games with your conclusions after each fail. I hope the progress itself is very interesting here.
Amazing video, well done! Also wanted to say, feel free to make videos on "older" challenges that may have been beaten by others already, the way you tackle them and your commentary makes it worthwhile, and hopefully wont require 71 freaking attempts!
Very well done Thermy, you killed it, I'd like to see more of these because this was very fun to watch however don't kill yourself on it especially if it isn't possible. This was very well done. It might be like speedrunning now that the dam has burst and people know it's possible there might be optimization and a lot more success and strategy improvements but I think your strategy improvements have been massive
Great challenge and thank you for being honest and told us you succeeded after 71 attempts. You are truly complete player and human being. We love you and yes, we want to see more of these impossible challenges. Winter just stared the challenge with no success but he didn t played 70 games so far :) You could try random player from your part and also random players for the AI. Take care!
My mate used to be able to beat 7 AIs allied against him in StarCraft: Brood wars. It was impressive but we didn't think much about it. (essentially it was the big game hunters map and he perfected his tank defense + battlecruiser wipeout of the enemy) I guess that would make him a grandmaster and world record holder today hehe.
@@songhan1586 You got no idea what you're talking about mate, he was playing buildup not rush like in this video... By endgame enemy was sending ultralisks and carriers, although by that time he had to have eliminated half the map otherwise he'd be wiped when the guardians came.
Congrats on the world record attempt. I haven't played or watched SC2 in years but even from my somewhat naive perspective I can see that this is quite an accomplishment. I'm always excited to watch people wrestle with the impossible to find their limits.
This challenge just shows how amazing and satisfying Terran is defensively. Way back in SC1 I remember obsessing with creating the perfect defensive set up, especially on campaign maps like Emperors Flight in Brood War, where you have cliffs that you can siege on and make towers, and a fleet of Valkyries to annihilate the mutalisks (ever since playing that mission they've been my favourite unit, and would have been great on challenges like this with masses of grouped units. Oh and of course, hats off to completing this challenge, it was beautiful to watch
Not a single nuke was used...my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. Jk, that was awesome! You just earned another Patreon supporter :)
@@brotoss9687 That night they barbequed a whole feast of zergling legs and Totally trashed the bar.... Dance parties everywhere... Music and booze... Marines showing off kill counts... Injuries and deaths where low.. moral never higher.... They even captured an injured ultralisk and took turns bull riding it
Zerg aren't edible mostly.. but Terrans discovered zergling legs where tasty and safe as long as you cooked them properly... Kinda like chicken ... But you gotta marinate the hell out of it because it's very tough otherwise... And it's best to pre boil it first ... Helps make it tender... And theirs less metal fragments to pick out... Beats MREs... Those things are terrible
Don't worry about the metal fragments... That's only the zerglings that got hit by tanks... And we usually don't collect those... Nothing left ... LoL... And if you happen to swallow one... The nano bots implanted in our combat suits will take care of it
@@ghoraxe9000 hahhaha imagine a footage about that night lols. the party goes wilder and wilder, till the morning. and when its morning imagine uthermal as their general shows up like '' aight gentleman we are off this planet, we got another impossible mission. only this time enemies are not bugs but robots.'' damn its stressful to be a part of uthermals army let me tell you.
So much fun watching you explain the AI mechanic & your counter strategy....and the most importantly is how you execute everything inside your mind....I never get bored for watching your video
Amazing achievement! Well done! To be honest though, after 71 games in all your other challenges you make them look OP/simple too. You are a problem solver through and through. Very inspiring. Thanks for the content.
I wonder if you could get the A.I. to overproduce Overseers if you had just one cloaked ghost/banshee firing at their army occasionally. The theory is that their army replenishment speed would be a bit slower due to larva/minerals/gas being spent on them. If it does work, it might be even better vs Terran or Protoss since their detectors cost supply which would shrink their combat army size.
Looks like most armies had some sprinkled in already, and he was definitely getting a huge break in how the AI flies in a cloud of overlords for every battle that he then kills.
In a extreme efficiency situation like this wouldn't it make the most sense to 'hat' all your supply depots? It seems to me that a hat (if not destroyed) is like giving you 100 minerals. Also, I think mules usually dont finish their last mining trip so I think they cost you 35 minerals each if you dont micro manage and stop them before they do that.
Incredible job! This kinda reminds me of the last and third last mission from brood war. Except you're terran not zerg, but just you vs tons of AI throwing huge armies against you.
Those huge waves of enemies constantly incoming to your base was like the cover photo battles for the game boxes. It also reminded me of the campaigns when they keep sending endless attacks and you just have to last X amount of time to win.
First video I've watched of your channel; very cool! I know the feeling of beating the AI on those hard campaign/custom missions. Great job! Reminded me of GiantGrantGames (compliment).
challenge i used to work on completing every week to keep me ready for a match at any time was going from 1v1 me verse hardest ai to 1v 5 me verse hardest ai's. 1v1 to 1v3 fairly easy but once you get past 3 that's when it becomes a difficult challenge. This is a insane challenge and you handled it massively well. Good Job and you have gained a subscriber today.
