I am Norwegian, and somehow i did not realize what Svartalfheim is, even though the answer was right there in front of me. Liteally, svart = black, alf = elf, heim = home... I am a complete and utter moron sometimes.
Goddamnit you Norwegians and Icelandish people and youre old language makes it so easy to translat old Nordic names ( T_T)＼(^-^ ) Im from Denmark by the way
Remember that time that Loki was a horse to help Thor assassinate a guy and he got porked by a horse cause he disguised himself as a girl horse for some reason and he gave birth to a 6-legged horse and he gave it to Odin as a gift but Thor got all of the credit... Yeah, that actually happened
***** Sleipnir's quite the BA despite his origin. He's in the comic Thor: The Dark World Prelude As well as multiple other appearances comicbookdb.com/character.php?ID=39830 I'd love to see a segment on Loki's children
I always wanted the comics to reflect the mythology a bit better.....No one seems to mention the fact that Odin's Steed is actually the progeny of a rampaging eight-legged stallion and Loki, who transformed into a MARE to lure the psychotic beast away. After a time, Loki comes back and presents the foal he brings with him to Odin as a gift. OR that one time where Loki marries the Ruler of Hel, a goddess bearing the same name as the Realm itself....and when is anyone going to launch a storyline arc about Loki's imprisonment under the fangs of Nidhoggr (giant serpent within the roots of Yggdrasil) where the acid/venom drips from the fangs and onto Loki, burning and melting his flesh away in a never-ending punishment of his crimes......Considering all the dark twists comics have taken, why not follow one already laid out and waiting?
+Kari Wilson Hel was one of Loki's many children, born to him by the giantess (jötunn) Angrboða (Old Norse: “the one who brings grief" or "she-who-offers-sorrow”).
I'd totally love to go there, it's just like valhalla (sorry for misspellings) except for the "after dying in battle" part! , i'd be a bit crowded though...
Id like to point out that "Asgardians" is not a real word. The correct term is Aesir, and the difference between the Aesir and Vanir is the Aesir are war gods, while the Vanir are fertility gods.
Loki's family is Great! His wife is a Troll his daughter is Hel the "cute" Mistress who wants to kill and Punish everyone, one of his Sons is is a giant Wolf who wana eat asgardians, and his third child is obviously a goddamn Snake large enough to go around the earth and hungry enough to bite in it's own Tail... okay a totaly normal family, right? XD Obviously I have told about the original Nordic Tales 'cause I have little to no knowledge about the Comic stuff. :3
The troll was the wife of Logi. Loki's wives was Angrboda, a giantess witch and Sigyn, an Aseir. Angrboda was the mom of Hel, Fenir, and the Midgard Serpent. Sigyn was mom to Vali and Narvi.
Yggdrasil, The World Tree And With Nine Realms: Asgard: Realm Of The Gods Jotunheim: Realm Of The Giant's Vanaheim: Realm Of The Vaiseir's Muspilheim: Realm Of Fire Giants Alfheim: Realm Of The Light Elves Svartlheim: Realm Of The Dark Elves Nidavallir: Realm Of The Dwarves Helheim: Realm Of The Dead Midgard: Realm Of Mortals Is That About Right?
Isn't Svart the equivalent of swartz/ has the same etymology for the meaning dark or black? And if alf = elf and heim = home, then that would make Svartalfheim = dark elves' home?
Ever since marvel retconned Angela from Spawn to be Thor's elder sister. There is now the lost tenth realm of Hevan (different from the regular Heaven) inhabited by an all female race of winged angels.
Calorie Queen can eat any substance in any amount at super-speed. To his Bismollian appetite ray-guns taste "good", iron chains are "like chocolate cake", prison-robot fingers are "just as tasty" as ladyfingers and polymeric fibers "taste like taffy". Certain space-jewels, however, while edible are not as favorable to the Bismollian palate and are an "acquired" delicacy. They can consume an unlimited amount of matter in any form - solid, liquid or gas.
I always counted the realms as: 1: Asgard, 2: Vanaheim, 3: Alfheim, 4: Svartalfheim, 5: Jotunheim, 6: Midgard, 7: Nidavellir, 8: Helheim, and 9: Muspelheim. Asgard is the home of the Norse gods, like Odin, Thor and Loki; Vanaheim the home of the Vanir, like Hogun the Grim; Alfheim the home of the Light Elves; Svartalfheim the home of the Dark Elves; Jotunheim the home of the Frost Giants, like Laufey; Midgard is Earth; Nidavellir the home of the Dwarves; Helheim the realm of the dead-ALL the dead, just divided much like Hades is in Greco-Roman mythology; and Muspelheim is the realm of the Fire Giants, like Surtur. Also, Jormungdr lives in Earth's OCEANS, not space.
it's weird watching your old videos like this today. You sounded like you were just phoning it in fighting the effects of sleep medication. Today though you always make every video with a high amount of energy, zeal, and professionalism. you've come a long way.
The alignment charts you mentioned started with D&D. Just thought I'd point it out since nobody else did. Also hearing you say "Alfheim" gives me SAO flashbacks.
Dark elf is actually the literal translation from the norweigian Svart alf. That 'heim' at the end means 'home'. So Svartalfheim literally translates to Home of the Dark Elves. Just as Jotunheim (jotun: giant and heim: home) is Giants Home. Midgard is an americanisation of the word Midgård which is translated Mid: middle and Gård: yard. So the literal translation is Middleyard. Oh, and Yggdrasil (pronounced with a sharp I and sharp G's, phonetically: Igg-dráss-eel) is a metaphor for the multiverse within which all the realms/universe/dimensions are contained
Jake 63 "the magician" In the comics, The Asgardians as with every other God such as the Olympians are in fact Gods and not space aliens as in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And Magic is actually Magic in the comics and not superscience.
***** there are so much real norse mythics that have ben pissed on so much by marvel but just one thing id like to tuch on is the pictur of the midgard worm reaching around the globe have you never seen the milkyway ? the center of the stars is where it bites its owen tail if you havn´t ... go camp out with a sweety under the stars
If I told her that Loki's kids include a world-encircling Serpent, a giant cannibal wolf, and DEATH ITSELF - my 13-year-old niece would still want to marry Hiddleston. The instant we gave her the hard-to-find Avengers Movie Loki figure for Christmas 2014, she and I re-enacted the scene with the defiant old man. I hope she gets what that really meant. Just for trivia, there is another realm, sort-of, strictly comic book-y. In some stories up until the 'Disassembled' wave hit the Avengers' books, the Asgardians had a group called 'They Who Sit Above In Shadow', supposedly gods unto the gods themselves, who granted favors and boons, but always a bit genie-like in how they went about things. Come the 'Disassembled' version of Ragnarok, supposedly the last evers, Thor figured out that these beings were actually parasitic, causing and feeding off of the regular cycle of Ragnaroks Asgard got through. By suspending Asgard's very existence for a time, Thor was able to kill these 'overgods' and sever their feeding lines, and presumably their doors to Asgard. Good info.
Rob Morris One more, though less realm than land within Asgard's plane, pretty distant : A Middle Eastern, Arabian Knights-ish place that was supposed to be Grim Hogun's homeland.
I always find it funny to hear about Thor's comic universe since I have never really read any of them. It is in a pretty stark contrast to the original myths. I am just curious: How many children do Loki have in the comics? In the mythology he is father to Fenrir, Jormundgand and Hel (the goddess of death) and mother to Sleipner, Odin's 8 legged horse.
Interesting that Scott didn't at least mention, in passing, the Tenth Realm of Heven, where Thor's sister, Angela (Aldrif Odinsdottir) lived. I believe she/Heven was "in place" in Marvel continuity by the time of this video's posting. Though maybe not enough about Heven was revealed at this point in time?
I have one question. Is all of the milky way with Nova Core and Kree and all that jazz still considered part of Midgard? Or is only Earth considered Midgard? And if so, then does each planet have its own realm with its own life tree?
Third army comics are awesome. It is a comic series that goes over four different lantern corps series. Also, Kyle Rayner turns into a white lantern in New guardians third army #16, and he looks FREAKIN' AWESOME!!!!
Your total count for places/people mispronounced would depend on whether you were going by the accepted English pronunciation, five (Svartalfheim, Vanir, Yggdrasil, Nidavellir and the Bifrost) or also included weird emphasis, in which case it's seven (Muspelheim and Niflheim). Surprisingly you got Jormungand(r) right. The r is kind of optional depending on which language you base it on. There's four to choose from. Ah, Norse Mythology, almost as confusing as comics continuity.
In a german amusement park ( Hansa Park) there Is a roalercoaster called Die Schlange von Midgard ( the snake of midgard ). but they are portraying it more as a sea monster .
It is a sea serpent in the real mythology Thor went on a boat to try to kill it. you see back then they thought the world was flat so it was just wrapped around the sea
I think one of my favorite views of Ragnarok that I've read was by the artist humon that it wasn't good vs evil but rather nature/chaos/feminine vs culture/order/masculine and that Ragnarok was like symbolizing that culture would end and nature would take over.
I would like to visit Asgard as that should be the place where all the knowledge is kept about all the nine realms, history, creation of everything regarding this saga in Marvel. So yeah defo top of my list lol 🤘😎
hi man i'm from iceland and i can tell you that svart means black or dark, alf is a weird englishy version of álfur which means elf and heim is a englishy version of heimur or world
Not for the Contest: Bismoll is the home world of Matter-Eater Lad. He became world president, and he went insane by eating the Miracle Machine (on Brainiac 5's orders). He is supposed to be dead in some continuity of DC.
technically each realm is a different plane of existence or universe so yggdrasil is actually the multiverse and each universe in it could be visited with the asgardian rainbow bridge or stargate. odin only conquered nine realms or universes before changing his plans. when thor and loki travel to earth realm we see them sliding down yggdrasil or going from one universe to the next. technically the dceu would also exist in the multiverse as does the sony universe. so the multiverse was introduced in the thor movies although the ancient asgardians had different terminology for it.
I have a question. what makes you worthy to hold Thor's hammer? i don't understand. it can't be attitude, personality, or even species because beta-ray bill could hold it. how heavy is it once you get past the enchantment? why can the hellicarrier hold it but not the hulk? PLEASE TELL ME!!!!!
Great questions! Without the enchantment it's something like 42.3 pounds. And I've often thought about why the hellicarrier can hold it without it plummeting to the ground. My guess is that it just acts like a 42 pound hammer when no one is attempting to pick it up. Thor can put it on a table and the table won't crumble because the hammer isn't more heavy when he's not holding it. It's still just 42 pounds. He can rest the hammer on Loki's chest to pin him down, and Loki isn't being crushed to death. The enchantment just means that you can only pick it up if you are worthy. I haven't done a lot of comic book research into finding out what exactly "worthy" means, but when Hulk tried to pick it up in the Avengers, he definitely wasn't going to use it for a worthy cause. He just wanted to smash things for the sake of smashing things. Thor, on the other hand, was using it to protect those on the hellicarrier from Hulk's rage. A worthy cause. "Worthy" might be subjective, and Thor has had the ability to let others wield the hammer if, in his eyes, they are worthy. Superman was able to lift it with it to save the fate of two universes, but after that he could no longer hold it. So to be honest, I don't know. But maybe this could be an episode all to itself. Deconstructing what it takes to be "worthy" of wielding Mjolnir!
The helicarier does not hold the hammer, it merely posses it with it, the helicarier does not PICK UP the hammer does it, because it is not a living thing with a continence.
Well, going by a video game, I think it was Tales of Symphonia (one of the Tales Series, I believe it was pronounced something like Yewg-drah-sil. Maybe it's just become my baseline pronunciation but I'm pretty sure I've heard it called that in the Thor movies as well.
Without question! I loved all the characters you could be and interact with, and all the places from the comics you go, and the really epic story. Plus all the side quests that I missed the first time that made me want to go back and play it again. I've probably played this game more than most games I've played. Though, Star Wars Republic Commando is probably my #1 all time most played game.
I don't know about the comics, but in Norse mythology Valhalla is not a separate realm/world, it is like some kind of fortress or castle in Asgard. When asgardians die they go to Hel. For example Baldr, Thor's brother, dies and goes go Hel. It is the einherjar that gets taken to Valhalla. The einherjar are humans who have died in battle.
So like, what is the inter-relationship between this set of worlds and different sets of themed planets/dimensions? Can you just freely travel from Mephisto's Hell or the Cree homeworld to one of the Nine Realms and vice versa, or is Earth the only intersect point?
I now there is a differen between Nordic myth and marvel but any ways here is a list of some of lokis children: Fenriswolf Hel (She is the leader of Niflheim) And the worm you was talking about i guess the name in english is Jörmungandr.... In fact they 3 are all brothers and sisters. Then there is also with another ''women'' (not a women of human either (danish names): Vale and Narfe And last there is Odin horse... Loki is not only the parent to Odins horse, but also the mother.....
The underworld of the Norse Myths is very similar to that of the Greek Myths. All the dead (except Heracles) goes to the land of Hades, where the "wicked" (those who pissed off the gods) got to Tartarus, and the good and virtuous goes to Elysium. The heaven is only for the gods, or specially invited mortals, who usually only stay a while then kicked out. The exception, as always, is Heracles, where at his death, the myth says his soul split into two, the mortal half went to...Tartarus, while the divine half went to Olympus (heaven) with the gods, and married the maid (I forgot her name) there I think.
Yep, read that myth myself. There is also a version where his 'mortal half' was merely his mortal body. When he died, he became a full God. But then, ancient myths usually have a few differing versions.
I haven't read Greek myths myself but in my understanding they are a bit different. For Valhalla is actually in Asgard (the realm of the gods where Valhalla is the palace of Odin) and the Souls of those who did great things and/or died honorbly in battle go there(and have fun battling outside it until Ragnarok) while people who didn't, went to Hel.
Rosa Ice They have differences but a lot of similarities too. I suspect that they both stem from the same root source, probably long before recorded history too.
***** what is that image you have at 4:00 of 9 panels chaotic good etc .... where did you get it....also what game is that that nick fury is talking about valhalla thx liked and subd
Matter-Eater Lad (not sure if hyphenated), and in a homage to Hal Jordan last week ... Roses are Red, Violets are blue, Rhyming is hard, Zebra .... Oh and Nidavellir is the place to be, you get URU and inventing genius to make anything you want (how they haven't conquered the Norse gods is beyond me). The only problem with Nidavellir is pesky flies biting you while you work (do you see what I did there ....)
My realm is known as mechahiem. It is inhabited by a species of sentinels of organic mechanical nature. They exist within the infinity dimension, a dimension if endless possibilities. They stay to themselves and cause no problems among the realms. Any disputes r settled by means of hand to hand combat. They only engage in battle with other realms if over 50% of the universe is destroyed by an ordained realm or other force. They r infinitely powerful but equally humble. Were originally the Guardian Angels of the galaxy in its glory days. Original builders, creators , and designers of the bifrost.
Actually nobody goes to Niflheim that is a realm by itself, they go to Helheim. There are no dark elves in Norse mythology, no where in the sagas does it mention dark elves and if so please correct me to where it says that. The dwarves lives in Svartalfheim sometimes also called Nidavellir, but it is one and the same realm. If you or anyone who reads this are interested in Norse mythology then you are welcome to check out my videos on this topic. My videos is based on text that is directly translated from the Eddas, which is the basic of ALL Norse mythology.
Technically, from a Norse Mythological standpoint, Valhalla is the place you (even humans) go when you die an honourable death in battle. If you die outside of battle, you're just sent to Hel, honour or otherwise.
In regards to Hel and Valhalla (in the myth senses not the comics), I was taught that Norse people (who were very battle centric) who died honorably (in battle) went to Valhalla while everyone else went to Hel. Also Loki was horse raped and gave birth to Odin's spider-horse. Look it up!
Loki's other two children are the Fenris Wolf which grew to enormous size and swallowed the moon, and Hela a woman who's side of her body is a corpse and rules Hel the way Satan does Hell.
Why do people call her Hela, her name is just Hel and thus the place she rules is also called Hel just like Hades the god and Hades the place. also there is no mention of her being half corpse (although if it is in the Marvel universe, well I don't know that much about it ^^ )
Im curious, is the other realms basically a planet reachable by spaceship from earth without the use of portals? or is each realm a different universe? or is each realm a different section/sector of the universe?, that`s the part i can`t understand, cause in most explanation of the 9 realms in the marvel world, they only incorporate each realm as a "world".
Chalcedon Sañor I'm not sure how all of them work, but I believe most of them exists on separate planes of existence. You can't get to one from another without something like the bifrost, tesseract, or general magic. Some, according to the diagram, seem to exist on the same plane of existence like Asgard, Vanaheim, Alfheim, and Nidavellir. That's my best guess.
The movies universe makes it out to be different planets, of sorts, in the same universe. I've always seen it as different universes within the multiverse, thus the name realm as in another universe. At least in the comics.
In the comic book version the 9 realms are different dimensions that coexist in the same space and universe. Not quite parallel universes, but they do tend to have varyingly different physical laws. I think the movie version of the 9 realms makes them mere alien planets.
Vincent McGrath Technically, a different dimension is just a synonym for an alternate universe. In the comics I think it's more accurate to call the Realms different planes of existance because they are indeed in the same universe, but impossible to reach through physical means. Much like it is impossible for any non-telepath to reach the Astral Plane without the aid of a telepath in the comics. The alternate universes/different dimensions are the Ultimate universe and the ones like it (like the one where Wolverine and Hercules were lovers, for example) are separate from the 616 universe, but both universes are aware that the other exists.
So they're in different dimensions in the comic version, okay. Does that mean each realm has its own universe attached to it like "Midgard" is part of a galaxy, galactic cluster, greater universe in general, and none of the other realms are accessible by travel through our universe? In the movies are the nine realms simply 9 different planets in our galaxy? Or nine different planets spread throughout several galaxies, or even different galactic clusters? I imagine Svartalfheim would be located in one of the farthest galaxies, i.e. the first that ever formed, or a place where dark matter was far more prevalent in the universe. Or are the movie realms again in different dimensions?
In Norse Mythology, Loki gave birth to an eight-legged horse who can travel through dimensions I think... *sings to the tune of the Spider-Man theme* Spider-Horse, Spider-Horse, Son of Loki and travels through dimensions.
Marvel’s take on Norse mythology has always been a bit skewed. Allfather Odin had one eye. For the longest time, Marvel’s Odin had two. Thor was red-haired and heavily bearded. Marvel’s Thor was clean-shaven and blond. Nidaveller was actually never one of the Nine Worlds. The Dark Elves of Svartalfheimr were dwarves-this, according to Snorri’s Edda. So the Nine Worlds were actually [1] Asgardr. [2] Vanaheimr. [3] Lyoss-Alfaheimr. These were the three “heavenly” worlds. [4] Svart-Alfaheimr. [5] Midgardr. [6] Jotunheimr. These were the three “earthly” worlds. [7] Niflheimr. [8] Hel. [9] Muspellsheimr. These are the three “hellish” worlds. By the way, you got the pronunciation of Jormungandr completely right.
My realm would be called Stiarnaheim, Home of Stars. A barren planet bombarded with the dust of an exploding star, the surface now shimmers beautifully. The stardust fused with early organisms, and over millennia the creatures evolved to become the Stiarnans. Their bodies are light and whispy, floating about like ghosts. Their skin shines due to the stardust, glowing in the dark nights. In all, a world where everything is very, very shiny.
hmmm you mentiond the world tree and the serpent but left out the key factors in all the realms problems form the tree it self An eagle sits at the top of the ash, and it has knowledge of many things. Between its eyes sits the hawk called Vedrfolnir The squirrel called Ratatosk(boretooth ) . runs up and down the ash. He tells slanderous gossip, provoking the eagle and serpent into fighting each other for eternity
I would have a world called drekiheim or dragon world. Which inhabits dragons as it's dwellers. There would be multiple types of dragons, serpent dragons, normal dragons, dragons with no wings, and even extremely 2 leg standing dragons.
Thanks to the Marvel comics. Specifically adaptations of them made by Marvel Animation. I have wondered why the Dark Elves are more shadow-skinned, compared to their woodland kin of Alfheim? What further confuses me is how some said, in the original Eddas/Poems. The Dwarves were not small, bearded weapons smithies like LOTR and Marvel has shown us. But rather, they are a "small breed of dark elves." I love Norse mythology...but those explanations confuse me
I'd create the Realm of FraltnisHeim ( translates very roughly to Battle furry world) populated by Dragons , Humans with everything for 1960X gravity plus having a average reaction time of .02 seconds, and the final major race Wyrms. Then Imagine like three leg joined deer and similar things for the rest of the inhabitants. Also magic in this Domain is only attainable through entering the energy well of either stored energy in a gem or your mind and then using the ancient language of the Grey folk to shape your intent. Also magic is limited by your physical abilities/ stored energy. You can only store magical energy in gemstones safely but diamonds are the best for anyone being able to access it. Third rule of magic you learn the true name of anything you can call upon and use it however you like but also limited by your physical abilities. Final rule you learn the name of the ancient language you can bend all of magic to your will if you have one of the ascendant Humans magic levels. Ascendant Humans are Humans with fox tails ( 9 ) , and fox ears but they have magic in their blood making them able to hold off an army of the normal humans with just two of them, also a lifespan of about 90,200 years ( year is 1460 days and days are 26 hours). Regular humans have a lifespan of 240 years. This is all the info for this Dimension besides its on one of the roots of Yggdrasil.
I’m pretty sure you left out niflehiem the land of the ice giants. I believe that is the name. It is usually said that the ice giants are at war with the fire giants. I won’t spoil what may or may not be in ragnarock as I can’t since I haven’t seen it and others might not of but anyway hope u enjoyed this trivia based off my limited knowledge.
Not sure if anyone said this before. But Svartalfheim translates to Black Elf Home. Or Home of the Dark Elves if you wish. Svart as pointed out in the video means Black (But technically not dark). Alf is a old Norse word of Elf. And as the video pointed out correctly Heim means home. Not a expert on Marvel Thor mythology. But I know some Norse mythology as well as being a native speaker of one of the descendent languages of old Norse. Swedish. So is generally not that hard to decode old Norse names.
not sure about the marvel universe, but in norse mythology (where loki, thor and the like are inspired from) Loki is the mother of his adopted father's eight-legged horse
*Valhalla* (Old Norse: Valhöll - “hall of the slain”): The enormous and majestic hall of Odin, it is here that the souls of those who fall in battle go, chosen and brought by the Valkyries (Old Norse: Valkyrjur - “choosers of the slain”). Once they are there, these Eïnherjar (Old Norse: “single” or “once fighters”), as they are known, make revelry, as they feast on the beast known as Sæhrímnir, having their fill of mead made from the udders of the [female] goat Heiðrún. [The feast is prepared by Andhrímnir (Old Norse: “one exposed to soot”), the cook of the gods, in his cauldron, Eldhrímnir (Old Norse: “fire-sooty”)]. The other half go to Fólkvangr, Freyja’s realm. Outside of Valhalla’s doors lies Glasir (Old Norse: “gleaming”), a massive tree with golden leaves, while its ceiling is adorned with golden shields. The tree Læraðr stands atop the great hall, where both Heiðrún and the stag Eikþyrnir (Old Norse: “oak-thorny”) graze its foliage.
I tried several avenues to find that picture of the alignments and havent came up with anything at all like this, could you pass me a link or a large picture to put on my desktop (I said large since my monitor ins part of my multi media center and is 55" )
***** No that wasnt the one, it was the different DnD alignments like lawful good to chaotic evil, I found several but not quite the one you show here. Oh and ty for putting this pic up and responding as well, it is appreciated.
On Loki's children, having read a bit of the non-Marvel Norse tales, he sounds like he's actually a good parent, despite how monsterous his children may be. His sex life can be a bit weird though, if one takes into account how he had Sleipnir.
