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This one's about the best and worst umpires, at least with regards to calling the MLB strike zone. Umpire Angel Hernandez is probably the most infamous at the moment, but do you know Pat Hoberg? John Libka? Alan Porter? They're gonna be umpiring the strike zone for a lot longer than Angel Hernandez, Laz Diaz, or CB Bucknor.
In this episode of Baseball Bits, a Foolish Baseball production, there will be plenty of time to look at some MLB worst calls and MLB best calls, especially with regards to the MLB strike zone. But we'll also dig deeper on the subject of Robo-umps, the Automated Ball Strike System that may soon replace human strike zone callers.
UmpScoreCards is a fairly new, public-facing way to grade umpires, and we'll be leaning on their work heavily to find the truth. Does MLB have an umpire problem? Kyle Schwarber seems to think so. But maybe it's the K-Zone that has us fooled.
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@FoolishBaseball Год назад

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@ethanschwalbach5049 Год назад

@EyeOfThePhi Год назад

feels pretty racist to single out one umpire who is a BIPOC

@talon6097 Год назад

@@EyeOfThePhi what

@EyeOfThePhi Год назад

@@talon6097 He's literally sh*tting on one and only one ump pretty much the entire video some guy named angel hernandes. You really think that's on accident?

@bonquishquish2164 Год назад

@@EyeOfThePhi hahahahahahahaha

@phunq9087 Год назад

Pat Hoberg finally delivered his perfect game IN THE WORLD SERIES!!! What a legend!

@nicholasadams2374 Год назад

And what a time to call the perfect game!!!

@Lionlover666 Год назад

Foolish bb called it

@cynicanal111 Год назад

Hoberg is the GOAT.

@theapologist6717 Год назад

And it was in a game the Phillies lost.!

@caseydearmitt8653 Год назад

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@SummoningSalt Год назад

We need to start implementing umpire perfect game alerts into broadcasts. Imagine the hype when the first one is finally performed. ... well, I'd be hyped at least.

@stevenhuber4335 Год назад

I like having the knowledge that Summoning Salt is a baseball fan

@belacickekl7579 Год назад

Maybe you two could do a colab if it does!

@FoolishBaseball Год назад

Yes but you can't say "perfect game." Just have to be like "he's uhhh, calling a good zone out there."

@LGPanthers1 Год назад

lmk when you speedrun being able to curl 30 lbs

@defn0tjake Год назад

You, Bailey, Jon, and Alex

@dirtaylulu Год назад

Angel Hernandez is truly an inspiration, he didn't let his blindness stop him from achieving his dream of being an umpire for MLB.

@Cody70858 Год назад

Peak

@stevenhetzel6483 Год назад

Hes kindof a genius. Only a few jobs in the world you can have where if you fuck up you ruin thousands of people's day, and still have a job the next day. Meteorologist, sports official.

@MrXup123 Год назад

@@stevenhetzel6483 politician as well

@blantant 10 месяцев назад

Dude. Can't say that. It's Racist

@janetegama5093 10 месяцев назад

Lmao

@rpsnider85 Год назад

And HES DONE IT. Pat Hoberg called a perfect game...in the World Series no less. Truly a demon back there. His accuracy rates have gotten better over time, I give him leeway as he was starting out and that accounts for the lower average. It seems he's also over 98% nowadays though. Dudes just extremely good at his job, in a job that's not only quite difficult but one in which a lot of his fellows are shit.

@musicdecoded4092 11 месяцев назад

but a lot of his fellows arent that bad, even the worst umps are right 92% of the time

@protectdavidchasetaylor2144 10 месяцев назад

@@musicdecoded4092imagine if your taxi driver only made the right turn 92% of the time

@musicdecoded4092 10 месяцев назад

@protectdavidchasetaylor2144 thats pretty fuckin good numbers. Imagine if the shit you said made sense 92% of the time

@alexdeghost2729 7 месяцев назад

@@musicdecoded4092 Except Angel Hernandez

@davidlibby5430 3 месяца назад

Better keep him away from Angel Hernandez, he would screw him up for life!

@SetTheEdge Год назад

Umpires being too shy to make impactful calls is hilarious considering their chosen line of work. All officials get too much hate and not enough credit no matter the sport though. Great video, I have a weird urge to go form a union now.

@FoolishBaseball Год назад

Huh. Weird. Well enjoy forming your union! Just weird how you got that idea from this video.

@zed6563 Год назад

As an umpire, the most nerve racking situation for me is trying to make calls with a full count in a high leverage situation. Even if it's just a 12u tournament game, I don't want to feel responsible for one team losing

@StefanWB Год назад

It's a real thing. The number of penalties called in NHL games in the regular season and the number of penalties called during the playoffs is massively disparate, and that's not because there aren't penalties to call. It's long been an axiom in hockey culture that in the third period of an elimination game in the playoffs, you practically have to decapitate someone to get called for a penalty. Now granted, in the vast majority of cases, taking a man off the ice for 2-5 minutes impacts a game of hockey more than one called ball or strike affects a game of baseball, but the principle is the same.

@lordmalkom1675 Год назад

Same for Football (you call it Soccer). There was Collina, he stood in front of the best and richest players and stared them down. He was always right and then they rarely argued with him. Now the Referees are scared... No good Referee in years :(

@keskesportsandgaming524 Год назад

@@StefanWB I watched game 6 last night and the refs were crap, we should have a game 7, but the refs didn't do it

@jonahgavino6532 Год назад

“Did you put that ball into the Goblet of Strikes, Angel?” Schwarber explained calmly.

@FoolishBaseball Год назад

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@ASMRDoodlez Год назад

This made me imagine a large cup behind the plate that umpires ceremoniously place baseballs in if they're called strikes. I like it.

@jasondyrkacz8270 Год назад

Schwarber was pretty calm considering it's Angel Hernandez.

@sirfallsalot2000 Год назад

No sir!

@crushedscouter9522 Год назад

this made me laugh too hard for some reason

@Veaseify Год назад

13:03 - so glad you mentioned that Pitch Framing 'has always been a thing' - some media outlets make it seem like it was something that arrived with the internet. I have a book from 1986 called 'How To Watch Baseball' where players explain the 'inside baseball' things that fans should watch for. In the chapter on Catchers, Lance Parrish of the Tigers and Jody Davis of the Cubs explain how to make balls look like strikes by framing - and they were taught how to do it by guys that were taught how to do it 30 years before.

@J.C... 11 месяцев назад

Nah. Their framing and today's framing aren't close to the same thing. Not even a little.

@Nolan33177 6 месяцев назад

It’s always been there since the first. Catcher caught a close pitch and moved it quicky

@teddyconover1619 Год назад

Foolish Baseball makes the modern game more understandable, enjoyable, and thoughtful. This guy is a master at content creation. We are truly lucky to have him.

@FoolishBaseball Год назад

Thank you for the kind words! I wouldn't be able to do it without your viewership.

@mr.silbergleit5724 Год назад

up there right alongside jomboy

@vader_OG Год назад

@@mr.silbergleit5724 so much better than jomboy

@mr.silbergleit5724 Год назад

@@vader_OG nah they both great in their own right

@SteefPip Год назад

One of these days this channel is going to catch fire and be one of the biggest baseball channels on youtube.

@maxp2305 Год назад

I have to be honest, that one "miss" by Hoberg is an entirely forgiveable call. It's close enough where nobody's really going to complain, especially given the circumstances (first pitch)

@edgyanole9705 Год назад

@fouoii gyhh begone bot

@rampage_360bobamusicandoth4 Год назад

@@edgyanole9705 he's just trolling bruh

@edgyanole9705 Год назад

@@rampage_360bobamusicandoth4 no, what are you talking about

@PuchuKt Год назад

@@edgyanole9705 oh, is it one of those bots that copies other comments trying to fit in?

@edgyanole9705 Год назад

@@PuchuKt yeah

@toaster567 Год назад

I really appreciate your explanation of the strike zone. I often feel it's 3D-ness is forgotten. I think it's good to think of it like a "cloud". Clearly people on the field have a whole different feeling of what a strike zone is.

@georgegoble6054 Год назад

i dont know what's the bigger problem in america, guns or bad umpiring

@johnnytwotimes7854 Год назад

Is it 3d though? The rules are kinda confusing I think it's meant to be when the ball crosses the front of the plate

@ShaneGrogan724 Год назад

@@johnnytwotimes7854 It is supposed to be 3D, if the ball crosses over the plate at any point with the correct height, it is a strike

@poluticon Год назад

@@ShaneGrogan724 maybe umps should wear 3D glasses then

@fanny2081 Год назад

That exactly why eephus pitches work. They are hard to hit if they fly in the strike zone at the very back.

@zachchavernay1223 Год назад

And now he’s done it in the World Series. Congratulations Pat Hoberg.

@PaulieWalnuts1776 Год назад

My favorite quote on Angel Hernandez that I take no credit for: If Angel Hernandez had another eye, he’d be a cyclops.

@BaseballAF Год назад

Its about time that Pat Hoberg got the recognition and respect he truly deserves.

@intsoccersuperstar1 Год назад

I haven’t liked a Pat H. this much since Pat Hingle.

@tw1nn319 Год назад

right hes the actual goat of umpiring and he gets almost no recognition and even a lot of the most seasoned mlb fans dont know his name

@cellamuert Год назад

think jomboy gave him some cred a year or two ago. it was some ump, pretty sure it was hoberg. it was the first time i ever saw the umpire scorecard twitter

@tw1nn319 Год назад

@@cellamuert that vid was about Libka, also an amazing umpire but much less experienced than Hoberg

@ocoop Год назад

he’s trending now!

@sandrobruni7575 Год назад

And now Pat Hoberg has called a perfect game- the first ever since umpire scorecards was established in 2015.

@TimMitch13 Год назад

Bailey’s prediction coming true at 15:53 only a few months later PROVES that he actually is a time traveler

@AndrewTranBaseball Год назад

15:58 I just took a look at Pat's ump scorecard today on G2 of the WS, he did got the perfect game

@iPizzaHead Год назад

All hail our lords and saviors Pat HoBOT and Wohn Wibka!

@FoolishBaseball Год назад

I think I'm an "ALAN PORTER FOR CREW CHIEF" man myself.

@iPizzaHead Год назад

@@FoolishBaseball you are also not wrong. Just more names for this Pantheon of illustrious individuals!

@12packersfan Год назад

I can’t even blame umps for no wanting to make game-changing calls… If watching Jomboy has taught me anything it’s that managers and players aren’t exactly the symbol of patience

@FoolishBaseball Год назад

One of the funniest things in baseball is when a player or manager gets ejected for a call the umpire totally got right. Baseball Bits legend Richard Bleier had one a while ago.

@B3Band Год назад

It's not a game changing call if it's correct. Then it's just a game call. Making the wrong call to avoid "changing" the game literally changes the game.

@4gfoley906 Год назад

It’s of course a real thing to be judged on your “game management” as an umpire as well. One thing to know the rules it’s another to properly apply the rules and accurately explain to a (mad) manager

@johndotcue Год назад

I mean baseball is already a frustrating game by itself, even the calmest person would lose their shit playing this game lol

@jordandennis6794 Год назад

If I lose my shit playing baseball on MLB the Show, I can only imagine how it is in real life

@JakeyIce Год назад

Well Bailey, it finally happened. World Series game 2 is a perfect game called by Hoberg. Crazy

@pauldistefano1002 Год назад

Pat Hoberg finally has the perfecto

@HistoryNerd808 Год назад

It is great that with the rise of ump scorecards, we actually have the ability to measure umps' abilities objectively and respect the good ones, while criticizing the routinely bad.

@FoolishBaseball Год назад

It's pretty cool. UmpScoreCards isn't perfect, but given a large enough sample, we can definitely see who best mimics the computerized zone.

@HistoryNerd808 Год назад

@@FoolishBaseball Agreed. Especially since great umps have never gotten the respect they deserve, despite how hard their job is. It's the only position on the field where not noticing them is the sign of a good game.

@mitch5944 Год назад

It's interesting seeing that angel hernandez isn't even in the top 10 worst

@Wolfeson28 Год назад

It is good to see that better pitch tracking tools have actually led to umpires improving. Having a more direct incentive such as demotions/firings for consistently bad performance would accelerate the trend, but at least there's some measure of progress.

@kevwwong Год назад

@@mitch5944 That is the most surprising thing, although his consistency is in the bottom 10. I think Umpire Scorecards needs to develop a metric that presents a singular number for us to digest how bad (or good) the umps are.

@orangezapinator7450 Год назад

I love all the Beatles references at every level in the video lol.

@Ghtherich Год назад

Daily reminder that Hoberg just called a perfect game and foolish baseball said he most likely will in this video. Good call.

@jackthetvroaster7231 Год назад

Here after the Pat Hoberg perfect game

@GoombaGuy1996 Год назад

I'd like to give a shoutout to Jim Joyce. He was one of the best umpires in the game, and it sucks his blown call in costing Armando Galarraga a perfect game will unfairly define him for the the rest of his life.

@FoolishBaseball Год назад

Yes, and he was very apologetic afterward. You could tell it was eating him up.

@ted6580 Год назад

How is it unfair? He cost Galarraga the 21st perfect game in MLB history. You make a colossal blunder and it should define you just as much as a great play does.

@cdawg1648 Год назад

But one mistake shouldn’t define his career, umps can’t make “great plays” so any mistake ruins their reputation and legacy

@iblizzard7573 Год назад

Jim Joyce is a POS. It would have been the first PG in Tigers history.

@mynamejef7963 Год назад

He should’ve called him out then 🤷🏽‍♂️ he knows what he did, he wanted to spoil it, and apologized just to try and save face when he found out the world hated him.

@callumlyons1684 Год назад

Jomboy did a video on John Libka, he’s one of the fairest, most consistent and accurate umpires out there. MLB really need to put him in charge of some more important games.

@dandystreethawk27 Год назад

Pat Hoberg perfect game in the finals no less!!!

@Chatherbox Год назад

I think most people can understand the difficulty umps face in calling ball/strikes accurately. The problems start when umps bait players into arguments so they can eject them (like the ump "checking" Bumgarner's hand). It's those weird power trips that really mitigate their credibility as a whole and in turn put a lot pressure back on them to get the calls right. The good umps know how to manage a game by keeping everyone's egos in check.

@FuzzyFromYT Год назад

Burrito has arrived. Foolish has uploaded. Today is Christmas.

@jaredzxv3706 Год назад

I would agree fuzzy

@jorty4796 Год назад

i agree fuzzy

@gmoneyalt2535 Год назад

Great day

@rrrey4448 Год назад

The Angeles would also agree lol

@FoolishBaseball Год назад

BREAKING: Fuzzy, Chipotle agree to deal.

@vexxfulomega9 Год назад

Angel Hernandez is a good person though, being blind really makes you humble.

@FoolishBaseball Год назад

oof

@kevinalexander6812 Год назад

I get your joke, and I like it. But he actually really is a shitty person though. Tried pulling the race card on the MLB because he's been denied the World Series since like 2005 and still isn't a crew chief, claiming it's racial discrimination not just that he fucking sucks at umpiring. Check out the Jomboy Breakdown of that Phillies v Brewers game where Schwarber yells at him. He goes into it on there.

@dominicpancella3012 Год назад

Anybody remember Don Denkinger? He actually wasn't that bad of an umpire, it's just that he happened to have whatever the opposite of a clutch factor is when it came to calling big moments. I'm not surprised that umpires are getting better overall, but I think we see more bad calls because we see more games and have more data available to us. I personally can't wait until Hernandez retires, though.

@headshot4311 8 месяцев назад

Choke factor

@nicholasmarinac6696 Год назад

You called it, Hoberg really did get that perfect game

@TheArodfan13 Год назад

Bailey, I just wanted to let you know that the work you do on this channel is unparalleled. The amount of research, editing, and overall time that go into these does not go unnoticed, and this quickly became my favorite channel on RU-vid when it was recommended to me a while back. I always love learning about this great game, and you make it so easy for the viewers while still being super entertaining and informative. Keep up the fantastic work, as I and many others are always waiting to see the next video. Have a great day my man!

@FoolishBaseball Год назад

Hey, thank you so much for the kind words. It really means a lot.

@Ryan-rt7kj Год назад

i want to piggy back off this comment. This channel is the single reason i got back into baseball after a long time away. I just happened to watch the Barry bonds video during the 2020 season* and i used to love me some Barry Bonds. That video was so compelling it single day handedly reignited my love for baseball. I have since watched almost every video on the channel. Such top tier content from an extremely talented and insightful fan of this great sport. HCYNBRAB amirite?

@FoolishBaseball Год назад

@@Ryan-rt7kj Thank you for the kind words!

@brianlacroix822 Год назад

you don't have to suck up to him even if you like his videos bruh

@TheArodfan13 Год назад

@@brianlacroix822 why does it matter to you? I love his videos and wanted to let him know that his hard work is worth it to people like me. If you don't like my comment, there's a really cool feature on RU-vid where you can exit the website and go on about your day without spreading negativity.

@Verlisify Год назад

I can't describe the flash of excitement I got when I realized this was a Foolish video and not Jomboy. FB getting in on the umpire action is top tier content

@FoolishBaseball Год назад

We both love us some Hoberg.

@armthesharks6904 Год назад

Wait. Aren't you like a competitive pokemon youtuber?

@i.theworstguys298 Год назад

@@armthesharks6904 He’s also an incredibly racist furry

@maaarcus7227 Год назад

Hey it's the Thorin and RL fellow viewer, Verlisify!

@brighamshamrell4524 Год назад

The phrase "noted bad umpire" was not used to describe Angel Hernandez in this video.

@thedylan_s22 Год назад

PAT HOBERG JUST CALLED A PERFECT GAME IN GAME 2 OF THE WORLD SERIES MJKFKSPWJVKSAAAAAAAA

@NotJustNumberz Год назад

Hoberg got his Perfect Game!

@LearnedSophistry Год назад

12:02 John libka and pat hoberg at the top, exactly who we expect to be there

@RetroBaseball Год назад

After thorough analysis during the past 14 centuries I have come to the conclusion that Ángel Hernández is a very good umpire. Move over Taylor Ward, we have a new goat in town.

@Bobtheglobb Год назад

Damn 14 centuries? Your name is retro baseball for a reason. What was it like back then? And why does everybody like your comments? Please tell me.

@FoolishBaseball Год назад

Charlemagne was considerd the best umpire for a long time.

@andrewhawkins6754 Год назад

@@FoolishBaseball He certainly was great.

@Tsuny999 Год назад

They really need to do something about count calling, umpires are way too inconsistent, we should really use technology to call strikes and balls

@meme_man1023 Год назад

Loved the video. Awesome points and lots of thought put in. Keep up the good work!

@Dru- Год назад

You earned a subscriber with this video alone!! Such a great watch and excited to dive into more of your content!⚾️

@collinpearson385 Год назад

Umpires have an extremely difficult job and there is so much hate in the media about the job they do, most of the time for good reason. I’m so excited there’s a positive video out there about them and the fact that he uses particular names is awesome

@Ironcabbit Год назад

Which is funny because MLB umpires have the best call accuracy of any officials of the big four sports.

@billyhomeyer7414 Год назад

Why exactly does baseball have balls and strikes still called by umps?

@Larter232 Год назад

@@Ironcabbit that very well could be because they have the easiest job of any official in sports(outside of maybe tennis who at least get to sit) stand in place and keep your eye on the ball isnt very hard

@catman-du8927 Год назад

@@Larter232 You do realize umps have to move around when the ball gets hit?

@unchainthewolves Год назад

After watching this video I can confirm one thing: Foolish is a big Beatles fan.

@pathutchison7688 День назад

“Who did I kiss at that party” caught me totally off guard. Now I have sweet tea running out of my nose. Nicely done sir.

@twodumbcats390 Год назад

You and Jom are my go-to baseball YT channels. Good work, my man.

@fallenorder9618 Год назад

Angel hernandez is a real inspiration to me, he makes me feel as though I can also become a major league umpire if that’s the level of skill required

@CoolHandLuke7 Год назад

To answer the "what gives?" question at the beginning. I think it's just because Angel Hernandez has become the fans' preferred pinata of bad umpiring. Every time he has a bad game, fans take notice, whereas they don't with other umps. It's a reputation/sampling bias thing.

@mitch5944 Год назад

Yeah he wasn't even in the bottom 10 of bad umps lol

@zkiiffs9 Год назад

It doesn’t help that he’s also a total prick. CB Bucknor is also a terrible umpire, but he gets less flak for it because he’s a nice guy. When he blows a call, he lets guys scream at him for way longer than just about any other ump.

@CharlesFreck Год назад

@@mitch5944 That doesn't account for how many games he's ruined for throwing people out for no reason.

@badboybrianwwu Год назад

Hernandez isn’t just bad at balls and strikes. He’s bad anywhere on the field. When he does blow a call, it’s a huge obviously blown call.

@mypud4068 Год назад

@@badboybrianwwu not only that but the league actually mandates that he gets behind the plate games instead of just sticking him out as a field ump despite knowing how awful he is at calling strikes and balls

@pattongilbert Год назад

Pat Hoberg did it! A PERFECT GAME in the WORLD SERIES!!!

@schwe 2 месяца назад

2:50 kirk with the majestic framing

@SamOliver4 Год назад

Speaking of baseball video games, now I want to see a baseball video game (maybe a VR game) where you play as the ump (with the correct camera angle behind the catcher), aspiring for that very first ump perfect game. That could be interesting.

@tylerboudreau9076 Год назад

Thank you for talking about that Beck call. That was at the tail end of the Red Sox slump and it hurt a lot, and they faced a 4 runs added advantage for the Braves in the last two games of the series

@jacobs2784 Год назад

Foolish- "Every mistake matters." Me- "Thats the nicest thing anyones ever said about me"

@williamdufort176 Год назад

Excellent video. Decent humor and smartly written and edited. Subbed and liked.

@sethpulsford511 Год назад

Thank you for showcasing Wat Woberg everyone is always such a fan on the ump scorecard twitter

@FoolishBaseball Год назад

Woberg and Wibka

@Baseballify Год назад

It’s always a great day when foolish baseball uploads

@FoolishBaseball Год назад

thanks!

@Baseballify Год назад

@@FoolishBaseball NO WAY ITS YOU YOUR MY FAVORITE RU-vidR also congrats on being ON TRENDING

@JBIsDoingStuff Год назад

3:38 "This runaway baseball was later rescued and adopted." I hope it found a good home. 😊

@milesdouglas3443 Месяц назад

A simple and fast review system is all baseball needs. Cricket did this about 15 years ago

@Big73Red Год назад

Absolutely fantastic video, I’ve always wanted robo umps but never really considered the fact that younger umps are significantly better than guys who have done it for multiple decades. Also around the 12:18 mark I got this weird sensation to unionize my work place even though it’s already unionized… hmmmm strange.

@samuely8487 Год назад

Love the video. Love the Beatles references even more. Foolish Bailey is a renaissance man

@Speedy28Gonzales 11 месяцев назад

These are so well made. Keep up the good work brotha!

@sportscards_n_zardstv1891 Год назад

I like the idea of each batter getting one “ball/strike” challenge. They can appeal to the 1st or 3rd base umpire who can wear an ear piece and be in contact with someone getting the real time k zone results and can get an accurate call within seconds. Just like appealing if the batter swung or not.

@heat_death7 Год назад

This is probably the best solution for all parties involved, but i think to insure that the challenging is actually usable as something that helps keep balls and strikes accurate, they should let you keep the challenge if you get it right. To ensure that managers and players can actually afford to challenge the bad calls, and not be forced to hold them for late game full counts that may or may not come.

@Jabbersac Год назад

I respect and appreciate your reasoning, but this would make the already long game of baseball take a whole lot longer, which I think is a deal-breaker.

@mattforbes221 Год назад

I was all for this for awhile, but I don’t think it’s implementable. Take Bailey’s Phil Couzy example: a wide but consistent zone is fine, but you can’t suddenly take that zone away in the highest leverage situations. In the ninth inning of a close game, where the pitchers on each side have been utilizing the outer half, it just doesn’t seem fair to arbitrarily take those extra inches away in a crucial count. 2-2 becomes 3-1 with the winning run on second, despite the fact that on any other pitch in the game the count would remain 2-2 (for example).

@sportscards_n_zardstv1891 Год назад

@@mattforbes221 I don’t like the idea of a wide/ consistent zone. I feel inside/ outside pitches are the only pitches that need no grey area. If it clips a part of the plate, it’s a strike. Black and white.

@sportscards_n_zardstv1891 Год назад

@@Jabbersac I don’t think it would take much time at all. Just like appealing to the first base umpire to see if a batter swung doesn’t add significant time to a ball game. We can see instantly if it was a ball or strike, no one would have to watch a replay or huddle up with other umps.

@CloudyYote Год назад

the beatles references were a nice touch to an already great video, bailey! :)

@ryancohen2513 Год назад

just rewatched and this is 100% your best work

@stephbenson7340 Год назад

I think my favorite strike zone quirk is that it actually can vary based on how the batter is standing. In a runaway game where position players start pitching, sometimes the batters don't get into a proper stance and are stood fully upright. That raises the strike zone! And the pitcher can toss a pitch that would be way high on a normal batter but goes for a strike on the apathetic batter.

@zooms7889 11 месяцев назад

this is actually the only reason why computers aren't used during games, they can't adjust to the batter's stance until postgame processing

@a13x_chang Год назад

Shoutout to Doug Eddings for missing 26 calls in Jays/Sox

@jorty4796 Год назад

💀💀💀

@JacksonCowson Год назад

That entire series was horrible to watch as a jays fan

@cantripleplays Год назад

Was he sleeping?

@FoolishBaseball Год назад

doesn't seem ideal

@karfsma778 Год назад

Yeah, that was pretty atrocious.

@Free-4554 Год назад

The best umpires are usually the ones we never get to know. Thank you Foolish Baseball for showing us these “heros” of the game.

@richdouglas2311 Год назад

This video had some serious juju. I was blown away. Thanks!

@billycaufield1135 Год назад

that 'maybe you should join a union' part killed me🤣

@anthonymorabito32 Год назад

With the strike zone on my local broadcast, it does honestly blow my mind how great many of the umpires are at their job. Unfortunately, they are in a thankless position. As a former collegiate pitcher, the idea of robo umps is really bittersweet. I love watching good defensive catchers work, and it would be a shame for framing to no longer be necessary. I think a little bit of human error is what makes baseball special.

@Vespyr_ Год назад

Most boomer thing I've ever heard. Get rid of them.

@anthonymorabito32 Год назад

Lol I’m not a boomer I’m in my 20s and was a division one pitcher. I’m not wholly opposed to robo umps, I just enjoy watching great catchers work.

@rdizzy1 Год назад

Framing is not part of baseball, it is for all intents and purposes, just lying to the ump. Happy to see it go, shouldn't reward whichever catchers are the best at bullshit. I mean they train little kids how to do this now, ridiculous.

@ethankibbey1976 Год назад

@@anthonymorabito32 I like human element, I don’t like the lack of any backlash on umps in terms of reprimand though, and how massive of an impact they have on games. What they say goes, and you can’t argue or complain, whether you are right or not, or else you will get ejected, fined or suspended.

@knightslegion1731 Год назад

I grew up on baseball in the late '90s and early 2000s. So, I know how wide and flat the zone used to be. I have watched a lot of games in the last 25 years, and generally speaking, I'm pretty impressed with how accurate most umps have gotten around the edge of the zone.

@ralph7077 Год назад

What a video!!! This is one of the best video I've watched in RU-vid. Very informative. Just perfect.

@IBangedUrMom69420 Год назад

Yeah if any sport doesn’t need a referee/umpire Union it’s the MLB

@jmoneyhitek Год назад

Fantastic video essay, well done.

@jasonlopez8053 Год назад

Lmao you managed to sneak in a couple Beatles references lol it’s amazing

@the_swoletariat1621 Год назад

I’ve loved all of your Baseball Bits thus far, but this one is definitely in that Master tier. This one had that effect of your Baseball Commissioner video, which is to make me think outside of my preconceived notions. Keep up the great work!

@zackm8853 Год назад

Pat Hoberg calling the first perfect game, with the Phillies, and in the world series of all places. It's hard not to be coincidental about baseball.

@cradjackson5953 Год назад

Great content broski. You make baseball fun for me. Also. Would you be able to make a video that breaks down new/old stats and what they mean. How they changed the game for the worst or good. Thanks for your time yo! 🤙🤙

@mathmeistro4318 Год назад

HERE AFTER PAT HOBERG'S PERFECT WS GAME

@quincyjordan4301 Год назад

0:25 Ah yes, this is how you explain a situation calmly.

@technoyeet9137 10 месяцев назад

“Dumbledore asks calmly”

@tmoney12321 Год назад

First time watching your channel, absolutely incredible video!

@BirdDawg1 Год назад

Excellent analysis.

@TheBlank8234 Год назад

I was watching the game live when Kyle did that. I'm a Brewers fan, but at that point in the game, everyone watching was a Kyle fan. The ump was terrible all game for both teams, Kyle said what everyone was thinking.

@55frankenstein55 Год назад

Agreed. Im a brewers fan too bit hernandez was terrible all around against both teams. To be fair the last pitch to schwarber was too close to take at that point in the game. He should've swung in my unbiased opinion

@RedstoneManiac13 Год назад

I think the big thing for me is that most of the bad pitches he had called were strikes, versus Adrian Johnson's game where most of the bad pitches he called as balls. I think it says a lot when you're pissing off entire lineups with bad calls vs. just pitchers

@Ironcabbit Год назад

See, I see it the other way. Giving the missed call advantage to the pitchers speeds along the game. And if one team’s pitchers still manage to give up all kinds of hits, it’s pretty compelling evidence that they just suck at their jobs and are probably on bad teams.

@Asher.Yodaah Год назад

I actually really like human umps. Imperfect strike zone and impact of the catcher I think are fun parts of the game. But often they are too inaccurate, and I understand the gripe. The fact that umps are getting better gives me hope. Robo umps does sound inevitable. I just want some sort of randomness thrown in. Catcher impact sounds nearly impossible to implement. But something like a 3%-5% chance of the robot being wrong if the pitch is within a width of the ball for being in/out of the strike zone would I think be a good balance.

@reeepingk Год назад

That sounds completely idiotic. If you want a more exciting game, then stop giving pitchers the advantage. Let hitters hit. Don't make the game more exciting by making the calls less fair. That's dumb and a bunch of BS.

@ThePsho 2 месяца назад

Man... sports, retro game visuals and sounds, Beatles references. Perfection.

@johnnyspankspence152 Год назад

Great video and the music added so much to it

@DrewCougMario Год назад

PAT HOEBERG DID IT!!!

@tylermiller8142 Год назад

Another great video! Thanks for bringing baseball knowledge to normal people. Recently got more into baseball and your videos help me understand much better and you’re hilarious 😂

@FoolishBaseball Год назад

Thank you Tyler!

@JohnXavierSieg Год назад

Dude....this is such an amazing analysis

@doodchappin Год назад

This channel is so underappreciated I felt the need to comment.

@thespanishinquisition5166 Год назад

Did no one notice that all of the chapter titles were Beatles songs.

@MichaelDavis-zf6nt Год назад

I wonder how a robo-ump would affect players as well. Such as pitchers who live off calls on the outside, or teams going for more offensive catchers because like you say, framing won't matter if there are robo-umps. Interesting.

@rockofshame Год назад

Love Foolish’s StrongBad impression at 8:40

@FoolishBaseball Год назад

Oh I think I could do a lot better than that

@CarlosGonzalez-wc9ij Год назад

Love this video, and the references you made to The Beatles as well lol.

@tylermccann848 Год назад

I think there's something to be said about umpires getting better when pitchers get nastier too. I feel bad that when umps are good, nobody cares or notices, only when they are bad. It's really remarkable how hard their job is. But hating on ups is just as much a past time as baseball in itself is, so it's not going anywhere, and I wouldn't have it any other way. It's part of the experience.

@EdwardNigma48333934 9 месяцев назад

Dude I love you Foolish. You subtly joked about the most important concept in the whole Umpire debate. With how backwards American Propaganda has warped our minds, I always here the Umpire's job security stated in terms like this, "God the Umpire's Union is the fucking worst. See this is why Unions are terrible because even when people are bad at their job, they still get to keep theirs!" You flip it on it's head in just one simple moment. "Hey you random probably average person at your job. Maybe if you started a Union. You could actually obtain the same job security that some of these poor umpires have." 🤣🤣🤣 That's the funny thing about the American mindset as well. We all like to imagine ourselves as displaced millionaires. We all want to imagine that if a few moments had gone differently we would be the main character success story (greatness personified). Or if we were hypothetically an ump, we would be one of the great ones, not the crappy ones. The reality is most of us are average, and that's ok, so maybe we should unionize to actually protect our averageness.

@georgenewman4464 Год назад

Good points at the end about umps who are doing their jobs well. I wonder if it's slightly easier to call balls and strikes in Denver in particular, given that the thinner air at high elevation means less break on breaking balls and less movement on fastballs?

@oogaboogaman13 Год назад

This was quite interesting. Thank you

@flyingchimp12 Год назад

I think the best would be something of a hybrid system, let the ump call balls and strikes but give him a wristband with the robo ump that he can quickly look to if he’s in doubt - instruct them to do this rarely. With this system you maintain the personal nature of a living strike zone and also allow umps to make less bad calls. A win-win for the old heads and the new heads