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With Israel's Iron Dome SAM being added to DCS, we test to see which Air to Ground and Ground to Ground systems can beat it. How good is Iron Dome?
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@idfmodsproject
@idfmodsproject Год назад
Hey Grim Reapers, The Iron Dome is not designed to intercept ballistic missiles. its not a bug just how the system works simple research before the video will get you all the answers. The code for the interceptor path is made for rockets trajectory. that's why it didn't manage to intercept Harms. that will be fixed in the next update. Iron Dome in real life only intercept rockets, UAVs and cruise missiles. any other target will be intercepted by David Sling. Thanks for the video but a lot of wrong statements and misleading information.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Год назад
Roger noted, please make David Sling now and we'll give that one a test on the same targets.
@arnoldjohnson3317
@arnoldjohnson3317 Год назад
Caps response is classic. Why I watch.
@patricktho6546
@patricktho6546 Год назад
Aren't the trajektories of ballistic missiles and rockets identical?
@aeroil-3802
@aeroil-3802 Год назад
Not true.. Couple of years ago iron Dome successfully intercepted short ballistic missile from Syria above hermon mountain. It was revealed by multiple sources and probably was a missile from the fateh family (around 500km range)
@osher87
@osher87 Год назад
What about HIMARS? Iron dome should be able to intercept them
@cockatoo010
@cockatoo010 Год назад
i believe that if a HARM looses the radar it was homing onto, it doesn't just lose guidance, it will proceed to the last known coordinates of the radar emission
@Fatallydisorganized
@Fatallydisorganized Год назад
The newer versions after the C have GPS and can do that but the C only had INS and is completely reliant on the homing to hit its target
@recoilrob324
@recoilrob324 Год назад
@@Fatallydisorganized Does the HARM have any jamming ability? Wondering if the Iron Dome missiles turning the other way is a game glitch or a result of effective counter emissions from the HARM?
@strichtarn3228
@strichtarn3228 Год назад
What he described--the missile heading to the last known coordinates--is precisely what INS is. Adding GPS only serves as a means to update the coordinates already saved in the INS. This goes for any "GPS guided" weapon; it's only a supplement to the INS in case of course drift.
@philippk819
@philippk819 Год назад
Only from the D version onwards, which got GPS guidance to hit the last known position of the target. The E version additionally got a milimeter wave radar seeker.
@Fatallydisorganized
@Fatallydisorganized Год назад
@@recoilrob324 it’s a glitch. DCS doesn’t model ECM to any useful degree. The most it does is give a flat distance where your aircraft can’t be tracked by an enemy radar. Which is nothing like how it should function. There is no munitions in DCS that have jammers anyway only aircraft.
@michaelmcternan4997
@michaelmcternan4997 Год назад
The damage model on the B17 was beautiful.
@voradfils
@voradfils Год назад
I have a theory. When the missile has just been launched, the instantaneous interception point can be on the "opposite side" for a split second if the speed difference is big enough at the instant the interceptor starts guiding. At rest, the interceptor would seek to be parallel with the targets flight path (in the same direction). Whether the interceptor is able to go there depends on how well it can turn at slow speed (and not accelerate as a result), and this one looks a little overmodeled in that respect. Once the interceptor has turned in the wrong direction, the target stays out of the seeker's FOV for the rest of the flight unless wagnercode magic happens. I think we saw this type of problem with S-200 early on, where it was never able to accelerate if the target was moving sideways. I discovered later that in real life, S-200 flies for like 10 to 15 seconds without guidance to keep it from doing stupid nonsense like that. Probably applies to most other missiles, too.
@fredericlepeltier3435
@fredericlepeltier3435 Год назад
I came to the same conclusion. The missiles always fired in the opposite heading the threat is coming from. You are right about the guidance thing. The old SA-2 (radio guided) had its guidance antenna blocked by its booster. It would only be guided after staging. Gave the SEAD of the 60's time to kill the guidance radar.
@idfmodsproject
@idfmodsproject Год назад
We made the interception path to much real life rockets interceptions. the interceptor calculates a lot of lead and because the interception path is not tested on Harms it calculates a lot of lead and the result are flying away from the target. in terms of ballistic missiles, Iron Dome is not designed to intercept them, that's the job of David Sling or arrow 2\3.
@casper7221
@casper7221 Год назад
Can you explain this in simple terms?
@voradfils
@voradfils Год назад
@@casper7221 This simplest way I can put it is that the missile starts guiding too early and too hard. Like many other missiles, it has no idea about its current or future speed and simply steers to place the target in a spot where it stays put in its field of view at that instant (collision course).
@odedmartial-arts1455
@odedmartial-arts1455 Год назад
It's important to remember that Iron Dome is just one part of a layered defense system. It is not made to deal with jets or ballistic missiles, to my knowledge. There are other SAMs and anti-missile systems for that.
@rupertbe
@rupertbe Год назад
Including Patriot
@jhonbus
@jhonbus Год назад
Exactly; It's meant to be good enough to shoot down cheap rockets while itself being cheap enough for that to be sustainable.
@rupertbe
@rupertbe Год назад
David’s sling is the system that’s used to defend against ballistic missiles (like the U.S. THAD system)
@rgloria40
@rgloria40 Год назад
Yep, and a more important fact is the next generation "smarter" enough to build, maintain and operate" it. One indicator is how many young people actually get STEM and advance STEM DEGREES...
@hagaislutzki3311
@hagaislutzki3311 3 месяца назад
@@rupertbeThe david sling is for medium-long range rockets. Arrow 3 us for ballistic ones
@sid2112
@sid2112 Год назад
*In a frightened German accent* "I see missiles turning towards me" Hehehe I felt that.
@FlybywireTheGerman
@FlybywireTheGerman Год назад
yes i was
@mfreed40k
@mfreed40k Год назад
Good deal, High keeping it relevant and to the point. Let your knowledge and skill shine.
@osher87
@osher87 Год назад
Lol i laughed so hard here: 15:10 "Good dodge" Best Episode, really enjoyed this one, and not because i'm from Israel and the Iron dome is in test, usually these DCS simulations are not suppose to be funny like that :) Great Job! To answer your questions and to put some logic to it: Iron dome is a C-RAM system, 0-70 km range, *ANY* other ballistic target that has a trajectory higher than 7 km cannot be shot down by ID, the idea behind it is to have a multi-tier layered Air-defense systems that overlaps each other, its not about the speed. it is more about the heights and the range, any rocket fired further than 70km will be intercepted by a system like PATRIOT or David's sling. The Iron dome is really not designs for threats other than rockets , mortars, Artellery and Cruise missiles, it also has the ability to engage drones/UAV. Imaging a Dome like "half ball" shape, that is the idea here, the same analogy can be explained like if u try to shoot down a ballistic missile using the Avenger/Pantsir-SM/Rapier/Sky Sabre
@cockatoo010
@cockatoo010 Год назад
Right. It's another layer of a layered air defense system There's also David's sling, Arrow and i believe Israel operates Patriot?
@EfftupSmith
@EfftupSmith Год назад
There's no German Aerobatics team since the accident at the Rammstein Airforce base in 1988 that gave the band its name.
@squiremc
@squiremc Год назад
The Starwars system was basically a number of satellites armed with Xrasers (x-ray lasers) pumped by a hydrogen bomb explosion and directed toward ground targets or missiles in flight. Each satellite could strike multiple targets and I heard a rumour that they were also capable of broad area EMP. As I recall the tech was viable but the cost was prohibitive and there were problems with these H-bombs not being stable enough when hit by space junk. Nobody wanted to be accountable for a H-bomb landing in another country by mistake.
@Headhunter_212
@Headhunter_212 Год назад
The depth of geekitude of the GRa never fails to stun me. Livery/ skins from 1980s German naval display teams. Hats off.
@philswede
@philswede Год назад
Greetings from Sweden! Keep up the great work with this channel! 👌
@budgieboi8979
@budgieboi8979 Год назад
Get here 17 seconds after upload, can't wait for yet another amazing video!
@the3rdlung
@the3rdlung Год назад
Hey guys, thank you for these videos, I have learned a lot about missiles from you guys
@manjisaipoe517
@manjisaipoe517 Год назад
At 33:20 Iron Dome obviously mistook the fish as the primary threat, and still maintained a 94% pk. Great fun, but please rerun this test when the fix happens. Could you also try long range arty please?
@brianmcdonald2696
@brianmcdonald2696 Год назад
Hahaha good one
@dexlab7539
@dexlab7539 Год назад
97% PK on Fish?! 😂
@kenhelmers2603
@kenhelmers2603 Год назад
Thanks CH. Pure GR!
@alejandrogrossi9424
@alejandrogrossi9424 Год назад
Hi Cap. The German Navy had her Fleet Air Arm, if you can call it. Of course from land bases. It was the Marineflieger. They flew F-104G and Tornado
@FlybywireTheGerman
@FlybywireTheGerman Год назад
exatly and the Vikings were to be right not a arobatics team by name cause in germany thay were band after many crashes the Vikings were a Disply team of the MFG2 the Marine Fliger Geschwader
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Год назад
Shows how much I know about German cold war aviation, pretty much nothing.
@FlybywireTheGerman
@FlybywireTheGerman Год назад
@@grimreapers We are hier to help you always Cap
@FlybywireTheGerman
@FlybywireTheGerman Год назад
@@grimreapersP.S. Cap the Kormoran Missile is in core DCS for the German kolitition Tornadoes
@Raptor1970
@Raptor1970 Год назад
Iron dome, the only missile that knows when to run away
@dexlab7539
@dexlab7539 Год назад
…built by the French, question mark? 😂
@tauncfester3022
@tauncfester3022 Год назад
Cap, your dad probably worked with my Uncle who was employed by Hughes. He drove 2000 miles round trip to be at my wedding while in the last stages of Asbestos caused lung cancer. He was a minor WWII ace in the Pacific flying from carriers.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Год назад
oof sounds like your dad is much more of a hero than mine! Nice to see they worked on same project.
@tauncfester3022
@tauncfester3022 Год назад
@@grimreapers actually my Uncle, my dad was a refinery worker in WWII, keeping the Allied's planes going with high octane gasoline.
@UhhhhhnooOOo00oO
@UhhhhhnooOOo00oO Год назад
Great stuff (Besides the mod quirks)
@bynrdskynrd
@bynrdskynrd Год назад
To paraphrase Bill Hicks, "Here comes one of those Buick SCUDs!”
@kcomco7433
@kcomco7433 Год назад
I read an article a few months ago about using lasers for mosquito control in Africa. They're talking about homing in on the wing frequency of the ones that carry malaria and then engage them with a UV laser.
@mfreed40k
@mfreed40k Год назад
Why is it I can imagine a HIMARS MIRV-like decoy that releases several high-radar return decoys to overwhelm systems like iron dome?
@vegancoffee
@vegancoffee Год назад
Iskander basicaly has this.
@mfreed40k
@mfreed40k Год назад
​@Medonja indeed. It's mainly an idea to overwhelm something like iron dome when you're going to launch multiple rockets to either overwhelm the tracking or exhaust the stores. I believe several new missiles have countermeasures.
@TraditionalAnglican
@TraditionalAnglican Год назад
@@mfreed40k - That’s why the Israelis have a layered system (aircraft, Iron Dome & Iron Beam), have Iron Dome only engage rockets that are going to hit population centers (towns, villages & cities) or facilities like Ben Gurion), and use Iron Beam that uses its own radar.
@jackwells2924
@jackwells2924 Год назад
Been asking for this for a while
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Год назад
Delivered.
@PerfectTangent
@PerfectTangent Год назад
For clarity, the launchers of the Iron Dome aren't TELs because they don't incorporate an engine or running gear for movement. They're just erector/launchers minus the transporter component.
@lenn55
@lenn55 Год назад
The USN has had an operational laser system on a few of their ships for years.
@andyshepherd5067
@andyshepherd5067 Год назад
hms york had one during first gulf war
@TraditionalAnglican
@TraditionalAnglican Год назад
And the Israelis have been deploying Iron Beam, a laser based system, for several years.
@realseif4759
@realseif4759 Год назад
​@@TraditionalAnglican the system isn't even operational yet
@watcherzero5256
@watcherzero5256 Год назад
@@TraditionalAnglican Project was begun 17 years ago, Its been in testing for 12 years, first operational deployment expected 2024.
@Davros-vi4qg
@Davros-vi4qg Год назад
For science, fun and boom booms. GR best!
@CyrrusNL
@CyrrusNL Год назад
Germany's lack of fun at 17:30 is not due to the lack of an aerobatics team. It's simply German doctrine. It's shown really well in the German flag. The black colour stands for work. The red colour stands for work. The yellow colour stands for work and the green colour stands for fun.
@FlybywireTheGerman
@FlybywireTheGerman Год назад
I an agree🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@patricklopez1799
@patricklopez1799 Год назад
"IT TURNED, IT TURNED!"
@squiremc
@squiremc Год назад
In ballistics, precision is how closely a series of projectiles group downrange and accuracy is how close to the point of aim they strike.
@Musix4me-Clarinet
@Musix4me-Clarinet Год назад
*_SuperBABY_* could take out the Iron Dome. The guys on the radar would be like, "Ahhh! He's so cute!" and he would unload devastation in their _face_ . It seems the Iron Dome does a good job of NOT duplicating targeting.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Год назад
Wife has told me I am not allowed to launch SuperBABY at ANY modern defence systems.
@Daniel-jq4qk
@Daniel-jq4qk Год назад
Just a heads up Cap, the Iron Dome does fire in unison if it's tracking multiple targets within rage at the same time. It's extremely lethal and cool as hell to watch on some videos that have been shot at night during a large rocket attack on Israel. Believe it was from 2010-2012 ish but it's out there and you can check it out. It's easier to see the missile trails since it happens at night!
@hagaislutzki3311
@hagaislutzki3311 3 месяца назад
I watched some interceptions at night. Looks cool as hell
@christophero55
@christophero55 Год назад
Fun video :)
@mcelravys
@mcelravys Год назад
This could be part of the problem... "We had to remake the rockets in DCS in order for the radar to recognize them and be able to intercept them (these are limitations of DCS), so new rockets were added "
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Год назад
Yup it is a known problem in game.
@osher87
@osher87 Год назад
Can you do more of that? With drones and the Shahed-136 it will be interesting to see a swarm of UAV's challenging ID batteries.
@Michael-rg7mx
@Michael-rg7mx Год назад
The old school approach worked on the Russian AA. The US sent remote piloted junk planes with emitters that projected 3 B52 bombers each. Then, the drone swarms that included jambers and planes with HARM. Last were f18 bombing anything that survived. They compared BDA with satellite data and then beat the survivors.
@garlicdragon8664
@garlicdragon8664 10 месяцев назад
​@@Michael-rg7mxexcept you made this up
@Michael-rg7mx
@Michael-rg7mx 10 месяцев назад
@@garlicdragon8664 That is the method that the US used against Iraq with Russian equipment. It was very complicated and multifaceted.
@emergcon
@emergcon Год назад
German airshows: there was a little misshap in Rammstein if you remember....
@FlybywireTheGerman
@FlybywireTheGerman Год назад
Yes but that was later the Problem started in 1962 When the Display taem ,that was training for the celebration of puting the F-104 into service, Crashed cause they lost orientation in clouds and all 4 Crashed On June 19, 1962, four Lockheed F-104F jet trainers crashed east of the Nörvenich air base after the pilots had lost their orientation in the clouds. All four pilots died. The accident had far-reaching consequences for the Bundeswehr's aerobatic teams.
@philippk819
@philippk819 Год назад
The Iron Dome interceptor is based on the Derby, which is the Israeli equivalent to the AMRAAM. So it's heavier than a Sidewinder.
@gendo1
@gendo1 Год назад
The Official Simba Fan Club has concluded Iron Dome missle are esentially Jason Bourne.
@anthonyb5279
@anthonyb5279 Год назад
We all saw how good Iron Dome is defending Tel Aviv. Just miraculous. The US Navy is putting it on ships now.
@numbersletters3886
@numbersletters3886 Год назад
Thank you Cap for not using the Lord’s name in vain, seriously I love you guys, but can’t watch when that starts up. You guys are incredibly talented!!
@manosbouzetos4132
@manosbouzetos4132 Год назад
precision is the grouping of the projectiles accuracy is how close you are on the target and recall= tp/(tp+fn)
@watcherzero5256
@watcherzero5256 Год назад
Yes, so a grouping where all the hits were within 5cm of each other but that grouping was centered around a point 5 cm to the left of the bullseye would be precise, a grouping thats within 5cm of the bullseye every time would be accurate (even if for example one hit is 5cm above the target while another is 5cm below the target giving a 10cm spread)
@scarcasmtincap2856
@scarcasmtincap2856 Год назад
Congrats on super 👶 baby! Best decision i didnt know i should make. 😁
@expat0149
@expat0149 Год назад
First saw the Vikings 104's at mildenhll when i was a kid , one went past so fast i jumed out of my skin, they were a great display team :)
@lordsqueak
@lordsqueak Год назад
hmm, @39:00 just loading in after changing the orientation of a few of the launchers,, they are all facing the same way. (unless you changed all of their orientations), that seems a bit odd.
@lordsqueak
@lordsqueak Год назад
Iron dome missiles Too Smart!!! They see incoming and they are getting the heck out of there!!!
@1youluv
@1youluv Год назад
Nice.
@roentgen571
@roentgen571 Год назад
One reason high-powered lasers weren't practical as weapons in the 1980s was distortion from the atmosphere fouling up the aim and scattering the beam, reducing its effective range. We can use adaptive mirrors now (large arrays of small mirrors that move independently to create a lens) with real-time adjustments to focus the beam. Computers of a practical size weren't fast enough then to keep up with the rapid calculations needed back then, but that's changed a lot since then.
@wormyish
@wormyish Год назад
I want to see 1990s new jersey and Wisconsin vs a modern Chinese destroyer at 25 miles Also I'd like to see you destroy different battleships/ battleship fleets with modern equipment. The high HP makes for fun videos when you try different strategies to do more damage. Love your videos.
@libertyafterdark6439
@libertyafterdark6439 8 месяцев назад
The End of Ze world reference literally unlocked a core memory for me.
@nick4819
@nick4819 Год назад
So glad modern HARM's remember where the radar was. Kind of stupid for them to only keep track when the radar is hot. Supposedly, the newer HARMs can even track a radar that has turned off and started driving away....
@dennisd7
@dennisd7 Год назад
It could be that because of the speed, the solution is inside the ground (or beyond the site) so that's why they run that way.
@voradfils
@voradfils Год назад
Yes, the missiles start guiding and turning before they've had enough time to accelerate.
@Joel-st5uw
@Joel-st5uw Год назад
I was 100% on "Team Grump" thinking that swiveling those launchers would save the day 😂😞
@shaneofcanada7042
@shaneofcanada7042 Год назад
Canada also recently bought 10 Iron Dome systems. Very curious about their capabilities.
@brianmcdonald2696
@brianmcdonald2696 Год назад
Can’t be that hard of a fix. I have all the confidence they can get this done
@idfmodsproject
@idfmodsproject Год назад
We made the interception path to much real life rockets interceptions. the interceptor calculates a lot of lead and because the interception path is not tested on Harms it calculates a lot of lead and the result are flying away from the target. in terms of ballistic missiles, Iron Dome is not designed to intercept them, that's the job of David Sling or arrow 2\3.
@user-tf6jo1er2m
@user-tf6jo1er2m Год назад
I saw a great video. I also downloaded the mod. But Iron Dome doesn't work properly. Is there a tutorial or how-to peel?
@scarcasmtincap2856
@scarcasmtincap2856 Год назад
The good news about the iron dome bug.....IRon DOme 2 video!!!!
@zahnatom
@zahnatom Год назад
i wonder how it would perform against the 1990's sead attack if the f-16s fired their HARMs in RUK mode and from behind a mountain but at super close range
@jrizos06
@jrizos06 Год назад
We all need to buy Cap a beer for having baby-brain and still making videos for us to enjoy after work
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Год назад
I would like a beer yes please.
@elliesanders885
@elliesanders885 Год назад
20:12 I found that happened in my tests too, spoiler alert, but it went weird and instead of intercepting the Iskanders I threw at it destroyed the near by town for me...
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Год назад
Awkward...
@elliesanders885
@elliesanders885 Год назад
@@grimreapers It was very embarrassing for all involved...
@Delta36A1
@Delta36A1 Год назад
7:10 I have to be honest 4200 knots seems way too fast for the Tamir. It is a missile in roughly the same weight class and of similar characteristics to the AIM-9 so I really don't think it should be reaching Mach 6+ even more so when you consider the Tamir is ground-launched.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Год назад
Possibly why it was causing some problems with intercepting the faster targets?
@patricktho6546
@patricktho6546 Год назад
20:30 maybe the launcher direction + the missile guidance system just hat a L and a bug?
@Evocati-Augusti
@Evocati-Augusti Год назад
And they never gave up on the Star Wars program, its now called the Star beam.and its a USAP.
@Evocati-Augusti
@Evocati-Augusti Год назад
You might figure this out or not, but after it took down a plane in 96 , the R&D base was closed, but the National Lab nearby who has it, is still open and its still there.
@888000777666
@888000777666 Год назад
I think the problem may be with the radar of the iron dome mod itself. It something is moving too quickly then radar speed and direction calculations can be reversed through velocity aliasing
@LondonSteveLee
@LondonSteveLee Год назад
Iron dome calculates the trajectory of the incoming threat - if it's following a purely ballistic path then it works out where the missile/rocket/shell will land, if the target area is deemed to be of low value then the system won't waste a missile intercepting a threat that isn't aiming at something important.
@Bruhvernor
@Bruhvernor Год назад
My theory is that you faced the launchers all in one direction. Perhaps if you’re going to attack from different angles set up 40 of these in a circle
@marvlombard887
@marvlombard887 Год назад
14:40 I flinched 🤣
@Mich_Angel
@Mich_Angel Год назад
The Chinese balloon with " 中国製 - ( Made in China ) got me laughing so hard ha ha ha! Nice detail 😜😂😂😂 Entertaining videos as always. Keep up the greatness! CHEERS ! 🍺🍺
@roytelling6540
@roytelling6540 Год назад
I don't know who said is?? BUT`at 11:05 some asked was the German guided missile as accurate as the British pigeon homing missile. It was not a Pigeon Homing Missile! It was classed as a Pigeon-controlled guided bomb and it was the USA that came up with the idea (along with the bat bomb..bat as in the animal) American behaviorist B. F. Skinner's attempt to develop a pigeon-controlled guided bomb. With the backing of The National Defense Research Committee (NDRC) was an organization created "to coordinate, supervise, and conduct scientific research on the problems underlying the development, production, and use of mechanisms and devices of warfare" in the United States from June 27, 1940, until June 28, 1941 YES I did have to check on Google to get the name and date right.
@therealfearsome
@therealfearsome Год назад
David's Sling is the system Israel uses for Ballistic Missels
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Год назад
Thanks, they'll need to build that next.
@ofir123456789o
@ofir123456789o Год назад
One of the highlights (that I am allowed to talk about) of my service in the IDF was seeing one in action.
@jackwells2924
@jackwells2924 Год назад
Seems like there was a bug in ya the iron dome isn’t designed to destroy very high speed missiles ! That’s what the arrow 3 and David sling is for
@Scarjit
@Scarjit Год назад
IronDome wasnt made to target fast missles. It is layered with Arrow 2/3, David Sling and Barak 8 and in the future Iron Beam systems.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Год назад
Noted thanks.
@watcherzero5256
@watcherzero5256 Год назад
Though worth adding IronDome was optimised to hit small objects. Its just as effective targeting a scud missile as an 80mm mortar round. Another big element of Irondome is a large element of discretion based on predicted impact location to conserve ammo, it only fires if it thinks the projectile will hit something within its operating zone its been told to protect versus other systems that will just always intercept anything in their operating zone if they are capable of making an interception.
@emergcon
@emergcon Год назад
As for the Wasserfall V2 missile: the us later did the same. But the missiles where armed with nukes.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Год назад
Nike Hercules??
@thereub8166
@thereub8166 Год назад
That money shot when the viggens were flying was hilarious😂🤣😭 TAKE IT IN THE FACE!!! 🍆🫠
@arkbirdarcher19
@arkbirdarcher19 Год назад
18:01 apogee
@geekpoet7443
@geekpoet7443 Год назад
David's sling and arrow are used for aircraft and ballistic missiles
@tadficuscactus
@tadficuscactus Год назад
I love it when you dust off the Viggens.
@MeirBorowski-vf7ci
@MeirBorowski-vf7ci Год назад
The problem is that the iron dome launcher is not a 360 degree launcher, which means you have to place launchers in the direction of the launch.
@MaxIsStrange1
@MaxIsStrange1 Год назад
Watch until the end. They tested it and it had no effect.
@saladiniv7968
@saladiniv7968 Год назад
probably finish the video before commenting, they tested it in the end and it didn't make a difference what way the launchers faced.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Год назад
We tried that in the last few minutes of the vid but it made no difference.
@aztec0112
@aztec0112 Год назад
@@grimreapers Ditto.
@idfmodsproject
@idfmodsproject Год назад
That's not true. Iron Dome can launch 360 degrees. The problem is they are trying to intercept targets that Iron Dome is not designed to intercept. that's why the interceptor calculates a lot of lead and hits the ground. anything else then rockets and UAVs David Sling will be used to intercept. just misleading and wrong information in the video.
@Istandby666
@Istandby666 Год назад
Have you tried to reenact chrome dome? Have B-52's fly their pattern and have a nuclear launch from the Soviet's. I forgot what it was called when the u.s. thought the Russians actually launched a nuclear strike, at least for a moment. So, basically use both scenarios. To find out how effective chrome dome would or would not have been. Then try it with the B-1, then the B-2. Or at least different era's to see the difference.
@wheelbasemedia5814
@wheelbasemedia5814 Год назад
Question: Is one of your usual flyers the host of the DroneScapes channel? The voice is very familiar.
@danielson9579
@danielson9579 Год назад
I think that with the harm missiles there must be some sort of electronic warfare going on confusing iron dome making them fire the wrong way.
@idfmodsproject
@idfmodsproject Год назад
We made the interception path to much real life rockets interceptions. the interceptor calculates a lot of lead and because the interception path is not tested on Harms it calculates a lot of lead and the result are flying away from the target. in terms of ballistic missiles, Iron Dome is not designed to intercept them, that's the job of David Sling or arrow 2\3.
@DarrenElbert
@DarrenElbert Год назад
This video is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@djzoodude
@djzoodude Год назад
@Grim Reapers Fun video, just a couple small corrections. All ballistic missiles achieve hypersonic speeds, but not all ballistic missiles are hypersonic weapons. A true hypersonic weapon needs to have a highly maneuverable final stage, so that it's harder to intercept. A Scud achieves hypersonic speeds, but doesn't have that maneuverable final stage. The Iskander is more similar to a Scud than it is to a true hypersonic weapon like China's DF-21. It has limited manuverability in its final stage. Which brings me to my second correction, the model for the Iskander M in game is not correct. All due respect to CH, but the Iskander is actually a two stage missile. I know that because the Kinzhal is basically a modified upper stage of the Iskander. Which is my third correction, the Kinzhal is a modified Iskander, not the other way around like you said in the video. The Kinzhal does achieve hypersonic speeds, but like the Iskander, has limited manuverability, so it also is not a true hypersonic weapon.
@krisspradlin715
@krisspradlin715 Год назад
Maybe bc the haarm is passive and I Ron domb is active...they turn their radar off when they realize that the missiles are homing in on their radiation.?
@lunarpollen
@lunarpollen Год назад
The Iron Dome missiles are afraid of the scary American missiles, so they are evacuating in the opposite direction
@mikedunn7795
@mikedunn7795 Год назад
What they need is Iron Beam for the very fast stuff. Short range,but intercepts at the speed of light.
@getahanddown
@getahanddown Год назад
I think the Jewish Space Laser is still classified mate. Shhhhh
@paulparker7419
@paulparker7419 Год назад
An Arc Light B-52 raid would be fun......
@tomerniderhofer5756
@tomerniderhofer5756 Год назад
Israel actually have different defense system against supersonic missile and it could in theory even intercept satellites. The active defense system is based on intercepting missiles and rockets launched towards the State of Israel. The array includes four defense systems: The "Hats 2" system - a medium and long-term (upper layer) interception system. The "Arrow 3" system - a system for long-term interception (upper layer). The "Iron Dome" system - a system for intercepting surface-to-surface rockets for short range (lower layer). The "Magic Wand" system - a medium and short-range surface-to-surface missile interception system and a medium- and long-range anti-missile interception system (lower layer)
@gibbo_303
@gibbo_303 Год назад
34:23 the actual missile is in use but i dont think the ground launched variant (iskander-K) is
@ivorharden
@ivorharden Год назад
German marineflieger did operate Tornado's after the f104.
@FlybywireTheGerman
@FlybywireTheGerman Год назад
Yes but no display team
@ivorharden
@ivorharden Год назад
@@FlybywireTheGerman it's a shame, a luftwaffe display team would be nice.
@OccupyMyPants
@OccupyMyPants Год назад
Damn that was tough watching an entire flight of my favourite aircraft of all time, the B-17, get blown out of the sky like that. 😭😭😭
@Dirtyharry70585
@Dirtyharry70585 Год назад
Reports that IDF has a laser in final testing.
@petrhala9830
@petrhala9830 Год назад
In the unsuccessful intercepts, the Tamirs seem to have been going in the EXACT opposite direction. Interesting bug. However, I wonder, if you could evade the Iron Dome with helicopters?
@jakovskaro8224
@jakovskaro8224 Год назад
It’s really pretty simple system. It computes only ballistic paths. That’s why it’s shooting behind. Its going toward possible impact point and half way up missile goes pitbull with optical sensors in the mid of the rocket. That’s why it’s nimble. You are right. Anything going really fast … messes the fire sequence. Command vehicle can’t compute that.
@trevorday7923
@trevorday7923 Год назад
I don't think you need to worry just yet about Cap Jnr learning bad adult language..... but if you're doing the 'here comes a plane!' routine at feeding time and he bats the spoon out of your hand you can feel proud knowing your boy has become a SAM 😇
@zachcd390119
@zachcd390119 Год назад
The balloon is brilliant
@haytorrock3312
@haytorrock3312 Год назад
Be nice to see CAAMs modelled at some point.
@markjohnson734
@markjohnson734 Год назад
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia...is where the Patriots shot down the Scuds and the warheads immediately fell and detonated within the city....Desert Shield/Desert Storm 1991
@miauwgabriel3547
@miauwgabriel3547 Год назад
The laser is actually called Iron Beam, and was to intend to replace David's sling. Please correct me if I am wrong.
@MrDJAK777
@MrDJAK777 Год назад
Seeing as how the LRHW has a battery deployed at Cape Canaveral as of the end of March, how long till the "can xxx system stop the US LRHW" videos to drop.
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