What did we actually learn from Arsenal vs Man Utd?

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Arsenal beat Manchester United 3-1 in a huge early season match at the Emirates but does the scoreline tell the whole story? What did Mikel Arteta get right? What was Erik Ten Hag's strategy?
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@Lanky4561 Год назад

Watching the game on sky Gary Neville kept saying, “Arsenal need to stop letting utd have the ball” and I kept getting wound up and angry, cause it was clear to me Onana was too good on the ball to press and utd were doing nothing with the ball in those areas anyway. Very pleased to hear this in-depth analysis confirming my gut observations. Can we get some actual football analysts on sky please? Great job lads

@omother6950 Год назад

Gary knows Arsenal we’re doing the right thing. United are literally useless with the ball, he just wants Arsenal to press high and leave gaps in for United to exploit which is how he knows is the only way United win that game. And because he’s a united fan he’s gonna make it look like United know what they’re doing even though he knows they were passing cluelessly and ineffectively round the back waiting for a long ball to rashy

@walterstandridge7905 Год назад

as an arsenal fan, i genuinely have never been concerned when antony is 1v1 on the wing.

@looniaz Год назад

He's quite fast without the ball, but when he has the ball he's turning into a fidget spinner who always tries to cut in or just passing backwards.

@SheikhAamirAhsan Год назад

JJ an Jon . You guys are bloody brilliant at what you do. T.he Rice corner analysis was simply awesome. Keep it going.

@forgetfulLlama31 Год назад

Interesting game for the neutral that... could have gone either way. Rashford and Garnacho (who was a gnat's whisker offside) both put it in the net from quick transitions; not really United beating the Arsenal press per se. Arsenal's equaliser was arguably because some United players switched off just after scoring themselves... Erikesen and Fernandes were all over the place as Odegaard (very sweetly) smashed it in. Better team won on the day, but it was close.

@sosamma090 Год назад

As a United fan, Im glad that our defense of Maguire and Evans, aka Leicester 2018, is as sturdy as JJ's favorite popaddoms. Also, rumors going around that Glazers are not gonna sell the club. I love the Glazers.

@Journey22405 Год назад

people praising onana as if uniteds entire game plan was give it to him and hoof it up. theres a reason he had so many touches and passes but almost non of them were meaningful.

@jakobarman2862 Год назад

results of bad transfers and squad bulding

@abjeet1 Год назад

You say opposition teams have figured out arsenal Frontline is dynamic so they make them stop in counter attack is not right. Arsenal don't have counter attacking player profile that starts. Nketiah, saka can't counter attack and that explains why martinelli gas to slow down to fond arsenal players in the final third after excellent counter attack runs.. Only players who know how to do it, nelson, veira and trossard who mostly sit out on the bench

@infiniteoptimalhd1998 Год назад

Ten hag clearly reaching boiling point from the post march interview. Many injuries and now will probably lose Antony (maybe sancho as well) to an off field situation.

@CharlesOffdensen Год назад

2:04 like what Amrabat did in Fiorentina.

@merchaninomerchanino303 Год назад

shame JJ didnt talk about gabriel looking as if he was shooting laser beams out of his eyes when he played the offside trap haha

@mangalaa10 Год назад

brilliant analysis!!

@miistercrayon Год назад

Erikson’s pass was perfect.

@FaustoTheBoozehound Год назад

It neatly illustrated why he's on the pitch. Unfortunately, the very next play he dropped too deep on defense, lost his mark (Ødegaard) at the top of the 18, and the ball was in his net

@am5790 Год назад

As was Vieira's simple pass to Jesus.

@olatunjistephenadeniji1269 Год назад

I think the reason why the passes are going out wide is due to personnel i.e., Nketiah

@PaulC_DH616 Год назад

Love these videos...but really missing the podcast guys.

@achoi15 Год назад

Thank God they talked about the corner kicks 😅

@Listerinepeddler Год назад

We learnt that ten hag can't coach an offense properly. We didn't create a single chance via sustained buildup or play. It's basically the same midfield from last szn. We barely created anything. Hojlund looked good tho

@therealprofitpulsehq Год назад

I’m wondering why you didn’t cover the Liverpool game vs Newcastle

@RaySMants Год назад

Newcastle v Brighton more like. That was the most recent one

@therealprofitpulsehq Год назад

@@RaySMants I feel like they are more oriented towards Man utd and it’s pissing me off

@Zooisms Год назад

JJ needs to be much more confident in his analysis, he has a good football mind and I always sense self doubt in him whenever he is with Jon

@looniaz Год назад

We all know how the internet works. One weird sentence and people can bully you online.

@yousefbhacker8160 Год назад

These guys are giving ETH and Man Utd too much credit. The reason why they mainly played around the back is that they were too scared to progress the ball forward due to Arsenal's ability to win the ball back from pressing, whether the press was aggressive/high or not. When Man Utd did have opportunities to progress the ball e.g., via Antony, they didn't give him the ball, either due to fear or mistrust of their own teammates.

@DynamicGuy123 Год назад

Arsenals equalizer is the reason I like sancho over Antony. Antony can’t play a cross across the box with his right foot so Hojlund is gonna suffer from no support

@shravan8848 Год назад

I do think United would have created more chances of better quality if Hojlund had played more minutes. I cannot wait to watch him play again

@michelebecattini2318 Год назад

which tactical board do you use?

@shashwatmittal5393 Год назад

Arsenal had to move on from the quick-passing->movement style that they had established over the years under Wenger. It wasn't going to work and anyone who hasn't just started watching them would know why it can't work-- they were a lightweight flair side that would leak goals left right and centre against physically or technically stronger opposition. All they were good for was dispatching the minnows by big margins. The structure and understanding of the shapes and patterns most definitely had to be thumped into the side in order for them to get anywhere and that's what Arteta has been able to do to some extent. The obvious downside to this is that players need a LOT of time to find ways in which they can express their unique strengths whilst playing within the rigid structure and meeting the obligations that they might have beyond their natural playing position. Rice will improve a lot and Vieira will hopefully become more than just the impact player who can bring impetus in bursts and will add a playmaker profile to the team should he become a viable option for the starting 11.

@Mrtrain315 Год назад

Great vid as always!

@lokiHotspur Год назад

Excellent analysis as always. May I know what is the software you use to do the tactical analysis? or any suggestion?

@user-jm2tu9qr8b Год назад

Spurs r wank is a great software

@M4NA5 Год назад

@@user-jm2tu9qr8blmao gottem. But fr Spurs playing good this season.

@Foxtrot6624 Год назад

They use r studio

@ceebad8985 Год назад

I thought it was pretty clear arsenal were the better team, you're overrating united's performance. Yes it was a good entertaining contest between the two, and we weren't overwhelmingly the best, but we were still better. That saka chance, havertz chance, martinelli one... We had so many more clear cut chances, you're being quite biased. Yes, we aren't as good as we aspire to be, but we're still obviously better than united. Shots, shots on target, xG, big chances all go in our favour.

@virupakshawalla5734 Год назад

Ten record. 14 away games top 9 clubs. One point 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 They deserved to win them all😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@randomne Год назад

I love this channel so much

@tenzoorbeta3538 Год назад

we learnt Maguire x Evans is a thing now best CB duo!

@pratibhanaik3062 Год назад

Was it really good? I didn't watch the game

@user-gp9gp5iw2u Год назад

@pratibhanaik3062 No hes joking lmao

@UppityKingJavi Год назад

@@pratibhanaik3062they were really good. They scored 2

@oscarjenkins7505 Год назад

@@pratibhanaik3062People are overreacting. They were fine, nowhere near as bad as people say, but they always have to find some way to blame Maguire I guess. We conceded a corner to make it 2-1 to Arsenal, then a counter attack when the game was already lost. Maguire and Evans did fine, idk why people expect our 5th and 6th choice CB’s to be world class.

@drex5160 Год назад

They've been a thing since their Leicester days.

@bobsmirnoff Год назад

That corner analysis was terrific!

@adhynugroho9424 Год назад

"Onana is fantastic in build-up" is an understatement. That guy legit feels like an outfield player who sidequests as a Goalkeeper.

@Human_Harvest Год назад

Sh!t GK and shot stopper though 😂

@roshanp9840 Год назад

Jack of all trades, master of none. The only thing he's shown talent in so far is picking the ball from the back of the net.

@ndexer Год назад

But concedes 2 goals a game. He's a goalkeeper first of all.

@richardsmith9615 Год назад

As the people here commenting. Goalkeeper's are supposed to stop goals. It should be obvious, but apparently it isn't. He got beaten at the near post for the second goal and was positioned horrendously for the first goal (Albeit probably wouldn't have saved if he was in the right position)

@sskmanentsa5326 Год назад

Yes, but United need a shot stopper because they are not a possession based side, they lack the quality.

@chazclifford327 Год назад

I agree that arsenal's press was not aggressive and quite strategic. They were not oblivious to the threat posed by utd. Multiple times especially during that 1st half, onana and martinez were trying to play it in the half space between white and saliba to feed to rashford, but Arsenal's press was so compact that it allowed their players to be positionally disciplined to recover the ball or utd overhit it.

@Iron-Bridge Год назад

Yeah. They learned from last season's first game. Played well in progressing the ball but got murdered by United's exploiting the spaces behind.

@michaelboiteau9890 Год назад

@@Iron-BridgeGod that game at old Trafford was dumb. Martinelli scores early but it gets wrongfully disallowed so arsenal have to keep playing for a goal and allow man u easy counters. Game is completely different if the fair goal was allowed ffs. That united couldn't create anything when they held possession which then would have allowed arsenal to counter. Such a shame as an arsenal fan, that call genuinely scarred me for the remainder of the season

@fallengt Год назад

@@michaelboiteau9890 It was obviously A fault. But VAR was not allowed to call that kind of fault unless it was a red card challenge or offside. Should be a goal but an Illegal goal because on field ref didn't see it.

@dennisgichohi5392 Год назад

@@michaelboiteau9890don't worry it's part of football.....the good thing arteta learned from it and we got a win today

@alhaadiahmad9879 Год назад

@@michaelboiteau9890so kicking a leg from the back and not touch the ball isn't foul?

@afterallthistime_always1069 Год назад

Gosh! Team TIFO making videos everyday. Love their dedication. They are the champions!

@Flash4ML Год назад

I do wish Arsenal had more of a killer instinct in transition, that’s something I admire about United’s side. Sometimes it feels like we’re too beholden to our buildup structure and lack the impetus to improvise

@DreamtOfSleep Год назад

equally when it comes to united their strength in transition is also their weakness. they make so many turnovers and are very one dimensional in attack, because every ball is aimed at trying to find rashford in behind.

@Trablaz Год назад

I too wish United had Arsenal's decision making when it came to the final third. Dangersnif playing transitional footballl is the forwards rush everything. Rashford scored (which is great) but there were instance where he should have passed or retained possesion, instead he just shot the ball away. Same with Hojlund

@gappylevine6136 Год назад

ofc mate our teams has players with "killer' instinct like Mason in the past and now Antony Santos both can beat defenders as well as their gfs Not to mention KingEric and Giggs

@garynico9872 Год назад

Fabio vieira. reiss nelson.

@salemsaid5253 Год назад

@@DreamtOfSleep😊

@ilovekurkure Год назад

Arsenal analysing the corners is what got them the win. No wonder they celebrate like that, so much teamwork goes into getting that ball in!

@jedhill3601 Год назад

Again this united performance feels heavily overstated. As JJ mentioned, Arsenal’s first goal was a product of good quick linkup and Ødegaard’s box-crashing. But this box-crashing and good link up also produced two massive chances for Havertz and Saka both of which you would expect to have been converted. One of Arteta’s principles of play is to get Martinelli 1v1, and he did so on countless occasions. Wan Bissaka defended well 1v1 (if you consider conceding a million corners good defending) and the united defenders simply could not compete with the technical level Jesus showed when he came on. This game could have gone Arsenal’s way in many scenarios, a last minute winner is just one of them.

@timjallow2644 Год назад

Spot on. There’s a weird onus to find greatness in every United performance, regardless of how poor they are. Fact is, they parked the bus like relegation fodder, put on more defenders late in the game to secure 1p. Got punished with another goal in the back the minute they tried to actual play any type of attacking football. They are just another Billionaire Burnley.

@jacobalexander4167 Год назад

@@timjallow2644exactly, we had to deal with united playing a low block for 90+ minutes, and united couldn't even do it for 3 minutes, the moment they opened up, they conceded that 3rd goal

@timjallow2644 Год назад

@@jacobalexander4167 yep, and if the game at Old Wafford is a carbon copy of this one with the entire game being played in and around one team’s box, but the teams switch roles, the analysis will be how extremely dominant United were and how poor Arsenal were not being able to cross the halfway line during any possession spell.

@dennisgichohi5392 Год назад

@@timjallow2644exactly.....they only blades one game plan but they have to make ot seem like it was a tactically masterstroke by tenhag

@yousefbhacker8160 Год назад

@@timjallow2644 thank you. I'll be stealing "Billionaire Burnley"😆

@blarn95 Год назад

I feel like Arsenal are in this slightly awkward position where the opposition now recognises them as very good and so up their game against them, but they're not perceived as *so* good that the opposition just basically accepts there's a 90% chance of losing so don't even try anything risky on the counter attack - the 'invincibility' aura that City have. It might come but it'll take time for the new-look midfield to properly integrate first

@FaustoTheBoozehound Год назад

This is the lens through which I watch every game now. Last year Arsenal were shock contenders and plenty of teams still underestimated them. This year, everyone knows they're going for it. How each teams perceives the other seems to influence the play so much.

@astrothelad Год назад

Hahaha this is a brilliant description of how I feel week in week out pulling for Arsenal. I’m being smart this time and basically conceding literally no one has any chance unless ffp rules get enforced. No one is even close to man city and it’s supremely dull from a competitive perspective.

@IVIRnathanreilly Год назад

It's not that they're upping their game. People just figured out how to negate their play. It's the premier league in 2023, there isn't a team in the league taking a game for granted.

@waggna469 Год назад

I am curios if Liverpool will go back there quicker, keeping in mind they have been there just two years ago

@lllordllloyd Год назад

This is Arsenal for 10+ years. Respected enough that opponents take them very seriously, but nobody is intimidatedxso anyone feels they have a chance. Forest against Arsenal were disciplined and enterprising. . . against City a week later they were like a frequently-beaten dog. (Do not harm dogs, people).

@stanleynwosu5830 Год назад

Nobody is talking about how leaving Rashford to mop up while we are attacking corners has cost us so much this season.. I can count how many times he's been bullied off the ball in counter situations from our own corners, Awoniyi's being the most prominent and yes it also happened yesterday. Rashford is a decently tall boy, has a good jump and can score headers, he should be a target man in the box and not outside it let alone be asked to defend... We got a set piece specialist coach, he has to rearrange a lot of the plays especially defending set pieces.

@FPLMikkel Год назад

I think the idea is that he is also very fast, so he can help out defensively if we get countered.

@stanleynwosu5830 Год назад

@@FPLMikkel its not working...

@px1777 Год назад

@@stanleynwosu5830😂😂i think nothing works right away most of the time. It'll be good if your team keeps tinkering around with its tactics impatiently as it'll afford us your opponents to steal some points😂😂😂😂Utd should learn from Liverpool, Arsenal that one average season of transition isn't a bad thing as ling as it yields the long term results.

@PCGamertag Год назад

Incredible analysis, especially the corners. Can't imagine why we wouldn't cover Declan Rice. What did United think? He had so much time on the ball for the second goal.

@olaleyeonikuyide7541 Год назад

And United would've gotten away with it... if Gabriel didn't foul Evans by holding him and giving Rice the space to score the winner.

@loudkeys981 Год назад

@@olaleyeonikuyide7541agree

@chrisking8579 Год назад

@@olaleyeonikuyide7541he should have done better physically he was also pulling Gabriel

@menno7349 Год назад

@@olaleyeonikuyide7541And if Maguire would've just pressed towards the ball instead of standing still and protesting the foul. That for me was the worst part, he just stopped and didn't do anything.

@iykeharrison9161 Год назад

@olaleyeonikuyide7541 LOL Gabriel didn't foul Evans, in fact it was Evans that brought him down. All Gabriel did was stand his ground and not allow Evans freedom to go for the ball.

@gurtajchhabra4532 Год назад

The thing he brings up about corners is interesting because every United fan and fan channel including Mark Goldbridge was saying " there has to be a foul, no way we leave a man free". OH LOOK, he was free in every corner apparently. LOL

@Adam-xe5xm Год назад

i mean Gabriel did foul Evans for the second goal and it directly impeded Evans ability to close down RIce, that much is clear.

@arpitkulshreshtha3513 Год назад

I am a United fan...and Gabriel should have fouled Evans properly..so he wouldn't have gotten partly in the way to deflect Rice's shot away from the keeper towards the near post.

@gurtajchhabra4532 Год назад

@@Adam-xe5xm he didn’t but it’s fine believe whatever. After watching the replay even Mark said it wasn’t a foul. Also btw, First half Antony should have gotten a yellow for dissent for kicking the ball after whistle blew (that’s the new rule) but first time ever this season the rule was not followed.

@gurtajchhabra4532 Год назад

@@arpitkulshreshtha3513 right? LOL. If Evans was not in the way, Onana saves it!

@Adam-xe5xm Год назад

@@gurtajchhabra4532 cool. Saka should have had a red for going studs up into a player and that Hojlund judo throw was a penalty. Arsenal got every 50/50 decision, i dont think thats debatable. Crying over a yellow card to a winger is insane.

@stephenrobinson8244 Год назад

We learned that 11 minutes is the difference between a loss and a great win

@juanignaciojimenez1986 Год назад

Probably still an offside but that goal disallowed to Garnacho was unbelievably impactful for the final score analysis

@TheThreatenedSwan Год назад

It seems like people are mixing the feelings between a team doing great vs exploiting their rivals weakness and f them because they're our rivals. Man U made almost nothing positive for themselves, and Arsenal had two big misses and a ridiculous overturning of a penalt

@dragongamergames7728 Год назад

@@TheThreatenedSwanif not for the offside inited could have won

@TheThreatenedSwan Год назад

@@dragongamergames7728 Possibly with play up to that point

@michael-john4954 Год назад

@@TheThreatenedSwanridiculous overturning?? there was no contact so it was rightfully overturned

@FlashMeterRed Год назад

If anything, Arsenal showed that having a playmaker in the back third is useless if teams aren't engaging you there, to generate space behind. Onana can play all the nicest short passes to his CBs he likes

@tompoynton Год назад

Also it’s _who_ Onana is getting to pass to. It’s not exactly John Stones or Dias or Ake is it

@lewishogan3719 Год назад

We will see Arsenal having more space to work with in attack once they start spending more time in the lead in games.

@animamaster Год назад

We learn that United's bench is lacking any credible talent. The fact that Maguire and Evans have to come in really says a lot about how United spend their money

@steerj07 Год назад

Completely irrelevant to this video.

@teddypicker8799 Год назад

@@steerj07 it's relevant simmer down

@user-nd3ks4mi7b Год назад

Our first, second, third and fourth(Shaw) CB's are injured.

@johnheat7774 Год назад

How much has Man U spent in the last few transfers. No excuse not to have a decent team by now

@Abdullah-Ansari-786 Год назад

@@steerj07just like you

@andreashansen2575 Год назад

This is some of the best commentary I've seen on youtube. You guys are so knowledgeable about football. Well done!

@andreashansen2575 Год назад

Also, I really like the format. The back and forth between you is gold. Networks would do well to pick he two of you up. Analytical masterclass

@dot4207 Год назад

Declan Rice's corner observation is a classic

@akashgooner4892 Год назад

brilliant analysis as always from john...i think the lack of penetration through the center will be solved once jesus starts......it will make arsenal more dynamic..and also i know i am being harsh but i think it's high time arteta starts subbing saka instead of martinelli...he is missing sitters and making costly mistakes and martinelli is the one who is making the difference this season so i think arteta should reward martinelli...and give saka a kick up his backside...you wouldn't want saka to get delusions of entitlement and also trossard deserves to play a part in every league game....

@Stefan-hd9vs Год назад

Arsenal's issue in attack this season has been Nketiah's lack of connecting play with the wingers. Its a massive difference from when Gab Jesus plays. The only time Eddie linked with Martinelli, end result is the first goal. This is the issue, he doesn't link and leaves the wingers isolated

@OplzITSCreez Год назад

Very interesting breakdown. Look forward to Rice spinning in behind and opening up the centre of the pitch.

@olaoluwaakinyemi418 Год назад

United fan here, and i need other United fans to understand we didn't play well. We had a handful of moments we wrre ableto exploit a bit of Arsenal's weakness but aside from bits of the second half and when Hoijlund came in, we were had no playing lines. Onana chucking long balls cause there were no midfield opportunities. Honestly a sad day out. Looking forward to Amrabat integrating and varane & Martinez being back together.

@raphaelworotikan Год назад

this.

@gweilojohn Год назад

The level of Onana love from pundits and fans is amazing to watch. DGMW, he is clearly very very good, and an enormous step up, but if teams won't be baited into pressing his obvious talents are mitigated somewhat. This was a good example, clearly, but when the 1st choice centre backs are fit (exist?) will be a different story.

@Dev.S. Год назад

Now with Zinchenko back, Martinelli is looking good and I think Zinny is the perfect player to settle Havertz and help him get his rhythm and sharpness. With Jesus back too, I think we will more free flowing, unpredictable, attacking play coz Jesus is really good at overloading and building play all by himself from either side which will create more space in the middle and the half spaces which Odegaard and hopefully Havertz can exploit.

@ShiNooBi1986 Год назад

Ramsdale said in an interview that the Left sided unit had only practised 5 times together. I'm optimistic there's greater things to come, especially from Havertz. Great to see Jesus back, I love eddie but Jesus links both sides of the team together and is the best presser

@Allardje10ifly Год назад

Jonathan "The Goblin King" "Dog" Mackenzie is my favourite serious football analyst (together with JJ Bull "The Bullard" my favourite, not so serious, football analyst)

@barnaclefelching4079 Год назад

It's weird when JJ forgoes his weirdness to try and communicate normally, it must be really difficult for him, not sure it's even worth him bothering.

@88klac Год назад

The idea that Arsenal can't play through the middle and have to go out wide is hardly new. The difference in this game was that they played more down the left, whereas last year it was down the right with Saka.

@SenorjrjrIII Год назад

Last year arsenal generated more chances from the centre of the pitch than any other team and entered zone 14, the square in outside the box more than any other team.

@JoshAFC Год назад

@@SenorjrjrIIIspot on mate, people really just say things these days dont they? 😂

@theblackswordsman9951 Год назад

@@SenorjrjrIII Nice stat, thanks

@nachiketayare2101 Год назад

We play more down the middle when we have Jesus leading the line. No offense to Eddie, he has been brilliant this season and deserves to start but Jesus helps Odegaard in building through the middle by holding up play, winning duels and dribbling efficiently through the middle.

@0riginalFIR3 Год назад

@@SenorjrjrIII they also spent the longest time in first place without winning the league. The only stat that matters lol

@mmmkkify Год назад

Other times I saw the one touch football from Arsenal was when Rice played it advancing and carrying it, with the first spur of positive play from Kai he was in the box and got the penalty. I believe that it is a transition period where Arteta is waiting for the team to grow more familiar with the system and it clicks and then we’re off.

@saidsalum332 Год назад

Probably the most important statement from this whole video is "Let Man Utd have the ball in the back and they won't be that dangerous"... It's only 4 games in and every team already knows the best way to beat Man Utd. Give Onana or the CBs the ball and stand off a bit and they wont know what to do- Prob end up kicking a bad long ball to Rashford after 50 passes around the back. (All that hype about getting a ball playing GK and scapegoating de gea gone to waste). If they aren't pressing or winning the ball from turnovers then they look lost. - Courtesy of Ten hag's focus on trying to become "the best transition team" Only time will tell if adding Hojlund and Amrabat will change this - Which is quite interesting position to have your season depending on two "unproven" talents

@Combatwombat-sn7ng Год назад

Ten Hag wanting to play "transitional football" is stupid. The top teams (e.g. City) are incredibly dangerous in transition, but are also able to play good football and generate chances like that. Just being a counter attacking team is not a route to sustainable success at the top level.

@RIP_Milhouse Год назад

Sorry but didn't United DOMINATE the PL and CL for decades with exactly this method?

@sskmanentsa5326 Год назад

What this shows is that as talented as United are, he doesn't have the quality he needs to execute different styles of play. United cannot play good football vs high level teams which is the ultimate test. I agree about the sustainability in club football i.e it is not feasible.

@poopsiclemcgee1134 Год назад

It didn't work for Conte and Tottenham too well last year

@Foxtrot6624 Год назад

It’s like you don’t even watch the games. We’re not sitting back at all, but you’d hardly know that if you don’t bother watching the games

@Mopark25 Год назад

He's not "just being a counter attacking team", you obviously don't watch them play. Playing pragmatically away against top teams is completely normal.

@underneaththestars2601 Год назад

I know for a fact that ten Haag is gutted and angry at the club for losing Kim Min-Jae to Bayern. Now ever so clearer that their defenders are in shattered pieces and that they know Maguire isn't the answer. I also know that their forwards are becoming Sunday league level. I just am so sure on this Kim Min-Jae slap-to-the-face going to hurt a lot this season. Not to mention Mount gone injured and won't contribute for a while.

@bballgreatest1 Год назад

Hey @tifo can you please a video explaining “the tactical inclusion of Kai havertz”. I feel like the fanbase and prem watchers overall would like to see the breakdown

@silverheart7964 Год назад

I think they already did a video on Havertz a few days ago.

@IVIRnathanreilly Год назад

Gets on the ball a lot in dangerous positions. Hasn't done much yet but it's been 4 games. Jesus likes coming short and the defenders can just follow him and stop him. Havertz swaps and pins them back creating more space. That's the plan anyway.

@bballgreatest1 Год назад

@@silverheart7964 oh word ? Gonna check for it. Because I can understand how great his profile is, but at what point does his actual effectiveness vs opportunity cost start to weigh in.

@tyresewilson3901 Год назад

we play against low blocks every game compared to last season where that wasn’t the case till towards the second half of the season. And due to teams sitting back and not attacking us there aren’t too many opportunities to break the down as they’re already back by the time we attack

@fpldirectory6753 Год назад

That's why last year was the best chance for Arsenal to win the league, now they're a big scalp for opponents so teams will fight for their lives every game

@jacobalexander4167 Год назад

I think we're already better this season than last season against low blocks despite the fact we still haven't clicked, last season, we struggled to even create meaningful chance against low blocks, but this season we're creating chances for fun, even when the team hasn't clicked so, if we're scoring those chances, we'd be better

@joaomarcos2089 Год назад

@@jacobalexander4167 And who is scoring these chances? If you don't have a goalscorer like Haaland, Salah, Kane or Mbappe (or even Bellingham!), you aren't competing against the top teams in Europe.

@jacobalexander4167 Год назад

@@joaomarcos2089 the players we have, duh, it's not rocket science, we've scored 8 goals from a xg of 8.19, so yes we're scoring goals mate

@ShiNooBi1986 Год назад

@@joaomarcos208988 goals last year...

@timjallow2644 Год назад

What we actually learned: the mighty ten Haag came to park the bus. The entire game was played in and around United’s box. Deplorable for a big team, most would say, but it’s United so it’s tactical brilliance being a Billionaire Burnley. At 2-1 they have to move upfield to try to play football and immediately get another goal in the back. Loses 3-1 with a parked bus but somehow “United were better.” A narrative you won’t see for any other “big” team this season deploying the same tactics.

@steerj07 Год назад

A good video from two good men. Good.

@barnaclefelching4079 Год назад

Good comment, feeling good about agreeing. Good.

@mourningireland4560 Год назад

Goot

@thevanicant5364 Год назад

I really cant believe how delusional some United fans are. United has been falling apart, its rotten to the core. The type of characters you have in your team are toxic and snakes. The club has no identity. Best of luck getting into the top 4 because you are going to need it.

@RebelWisdom Год назад

I think Arsenal are good and Manchester United are bad

@CoconutJewce Год назад

United definitely haven't played well in any of their games (Forest was decent besides the first 4 minutes lol), but Arsenal hasn't really played well either. Barely scraped wins against Forest and Palace, couldn't beat a 10-man Fulham, and had a pretty competitive game with a United team that ended up fielding their 5th and 6th string CBs (which is when two goals were scored). Not impressive by Arsenal in the slightest.

@am5790 Год назад

What we learned is the Man U are not short of excuses. ( offsides and foul &injuries as if it only happens to them) for getting outsmarted.... Lile their pouty manager. The karmic paybacks of Fergie time is real.😂😂😂😂

@footballspiritual9702 Год назад

Fact is fact united spent millions on players who cannot create since Moyes time we never bought players who create in the opposition box. All we rely on is transition and opposition error. You can't win the league with that.

@zScrotumify Год назад

Dont even mention about winning the league, as it is youre top6 at best

@hesoyammy9438 Год назад

Fernandes is an excellent creator, but he's too heavily relied on. If he has an off game the attack doesn't click at all.

@wespicedmemes Год назад

@@zScrotumifythat’s a lie and you know it

@streezyt2527 Год назад

Mata Miki Pogba Sancho

@DeterminedFC Год назад

you literally have fernandes and erikson

@sykesybwoy Год назад

We don't have the fastest players in transition, just Martinelli and we've mainly been trying to dominate possession and terroritory so don't get as many of those types of chances. Then there's the fact that we've faced the most amount of low blocks since last season and I feel like teams are working doubly hard to either double/triple team our wingers and deny space in the half spaces on the edge of the box, which makes us look more slow and ponderous.

@iykeharrison9161 Год назад

When you play against a low block you can't play fast attacking football, because there won't be much space to play with. I don't know why people haven't figured that out.

@sykesybwoy Год назад

@@iykeharrison9161 and try use it as a stick to beat us with...

@harshpats Год назад

Of course Arsenal is the better team! I don’t see ETH Lasting the season at United.. thats it and thats all!

@Mojohoojo187 Год назад

I pity ETH, seems MU fans forget that MU is the first real big club he ever manage. No disrespect to Ajax but EPL, SAF, history and etc pressure is massive. He have to go against klopp, pep, and the rest who has vastly more experience in the big stage. He needs time and throw away his ego, 1 successful season doesn’t mean he already made it. But on a side note macguire and evans…..MU is so lucky to have GOATs

@lennykibe9764 Год назад

Would have loved to hear your thoughts on Hojlund though, after his introduction united played long a lot more and with some promise.

@nicknewman7848 Год назад

True.. he will improve the team by holding up the ball, pressing with energy and being a genuine threat to occupy opposition centre backs. The whole team will benefit. Given time the number of goals should increase in general.. which of course is the whole point.

@jilokizito1705 Год назад

As a Manchester United fan for the 23 years and one who watched the match, I learnt that Manchester United is no longer a big club. We are average. Let us admit it, acknowledge this and stay humble as we work our way back.

@afnanabbassi7696 Год назад

Fax

@shuraamano Год назад

They have to work themselves back to up. Even if we shout our lung out, if Trashford just gonna do his walk around the pitch. Nothing's change.

@afnanabbassi7696 Год назад

@@shuraamano yes bro well said

@JoseAngelC Год назад

We learned that your prediction that United was going to be third this season was stupid.

@craig89 Год назад

Pretty spot on to be honest. It was so frustrating as an Arsenal fan watching us not press them in the moment but great discipline from the team to stick to instructions and then exactly as JJ said, taking far too many touches and having to go backwards. Feel like we only slightly deserved the win but couldn't have complained if we drew that game. Something I've noticed watching Arsenal is that when we need to score we do but if we don't need to score we're too happy just to go through the motions. Wish we would kill teams off like Liverpool have done

@arlochallis7656 Год назад

Really agree with you, to me feels like arsenal don’t usually continue to maintain aggression and intensity once one or two goals up, can sometimes cost them like at anfield or West Ham last season, and saw it again against Fulham last week after taking the lead

@jacobalexander4167 Год назад

@@arlochallis7656I think that's because we are still in a learning phase, and teams would defend narrowly against us hoping we misplace a pass that they can take advantage of, but as soon as we gel, we'd be scoring freely

@craig89 Год назад

@arlochallis7656 yeh too happy to control the game and not end the contest

@omother6950 Год назад

That’ll come with experience, the comebacks that Liverpool and west ham done last season is a natural progression of that. Expect to see more 4-0,5-0 wins of Arsenal this season if that’s the case because Arteta will surely be adamant to kill off teams

@iiNeedSkins Год назад

Evans and Maguire weren't good enough 5 years ago at Leicester, nevermind now for a champions league team.

@adimalaviya Год назад

Didn't they win the PL with Leicester?

@thatsabigoof509 Год назад

@@adimalaviya Neither was there in that season.

@otto_jk Год назад

@@adimalaviyaMorgan and Huth was the CB pair

@cross5025 Год назад

Well thats okay they wont be at a champions league team soon enough. Utd aren't getting ucl this time around

@charlesaade Год назад

@@adimalaviyaloooool you think Maguire and evans could win a title together 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.. Jesus

@jessewilliams7863 Год назад

Very good pick up on the corner strategy changing

@virupakshawalla5734 Год назад

I watched game and United going forward they talk attacking. Arsenal attack its about Man U again. We bossed that game including the 10000 passes Man U made in own third.

@TheBurdenOfHope Год назад

Amazing analysis. I think United’s setup at corners was too basic. Too easy to counter against. I imagine they’re happy to see lofted corners come in because headers are really difficult to score and have a low Xg. They ran the risk all game that the Rice goal would happen. I’m glad our analysts were able to exploit that further by telling Tomi and big Gabi to force defenders deeper into their area and give Rice even more time and space to receive the deliveries.

@TheKrostiman Год назад

Idk this analysis seems to flatter the ultra defensive team a little too much. This United team will keep struggling.

@nishchaychauhan8814 Год назад

It's not really rocket science. One team played the game and other team just passed onto Rashford And prayed

@JetFuelCantMeltAutismVaccines Год назад

Nico Jover, Arsenals set piece coach, posted many times on Instagram about how beautiful the last corner was. Nicely spotted by Mackenzie.

@Cian_RH Год назад

Where did Jon McKenzie get that shirt

@panic_seller Год назад

Personally, I learn Man Utd hasn't really evolved much from Ole, We still are not a team, and there's a lot of reliance on individual brilliance. In Fact, Man Utd are becoming predictable, "Pass it to Ronaldo" is now "Pass it to Rashford"

@chrisking8579 Год назад

I was annoyed too. Yes, we stopped arsenal from playing well, but we just passed the ball in our half. I feel our next tactics are gonna be pass to rashford and hopes he scores

@shuraamano Год назад

Trashford can't even shoot into goal this season. Lazy. Just want the ball come to him. Especially after new contract.

@xc3274 Год назад

I learnt that if Ten Hag feels his team isn't superior, he decides to make eveyone fall asleep by passing between CBs and the keeper. One thing is trying to build up from the back and another is retaining it until you are forced to smash the ball forward. And I also learnt he's a crybaby. What he did after the match was pure childish mood.

@vestnivdrom6311 Год назад

As a United fan, in the end Arsenal just had more quality on the pitch and deserved that win. We could brag about decisions but what really matters was that one team had Evans and Maguire and another Saliba and Gabriel. Cannot wait for Glazers to be out, because with Qatar we could have easily signed Kim as well this summer, and sell people like Harry.

@VenatusUprising Год назад

The glazers decided not to sell the club sadly

@kendrick6740 Год назад

I feel like whilst Arsenal did ultimately deserve to win, United did very well for most of the match and probably could’ve deserved a draw until injuries forced us to bring on Maguire and Evans. Yes the score looks worse for United, but we also got a bit unlucky with the Garnacho offside and aside of the Saka miss we didn’t concede any real high probability chances either. The Rice shot was a bit lucky and it did come after we had to take off our THIRD best centre back, and the third goal happened when United were already forced forward to go for a desperation equaliser. The team clearly has potential, but lack of quality depth and fit starters is the major issue that prevents us from actually playing properly and consistently for 90 minutes.

@Never_Wr0ng Год назад

Would like to know the money spent on each team's starting XI? It might surprise you 😮

@_shmeezy Год назад

The only decisions worth discussing were the penalty shouts. I kind of think both could be given watching them back. Really surprised no one has brought up the Lindelof challenge on Nketiah as well. It should have been a red and if Nketiah made more of it, it would have been.

@marlenemortler3849 Год назад

@@VenatusUprisingThey would just lose a whole lot of money because if they dont sell, they would have to invest and they are known to only use the money generated by the club. Therefore Manchester United wouldnt be able to keep up with Newcastle or City, because City and Newcastle actually invest in their training facilites, coaching staff, recruitement staff, stadium etc. United doesnt do that. If they dont sell, they would actually prove their stupidity.

@collapsiblechair9112 Год назад

Jon's influence on JJ is alarming, he's bring him down to his level of boring

@arunj7641 Год назад

Great analysis. Instead of just mocking Maguire and Evans, it is now understood that United conceded rice and jesus goal because of tactical and structural flaws.

@shuraamano Год назад

Mocking? That's glaring factual fact that you can see. The big huge error in ten hag decision making.

@TheThreatenedSwan Год назад

Saka had a number of good corners while Martinelli should not have had so many bad corners. When you consider the big misses, the number of uncharacteristic bad crosses, the repealed penalty, etc, if individual Arsenal players had been as consistent as they usually are, it could have been a very different game.

@lindilebangose7667 Год назад

It annoyed me that he didn't hand over the duties to Fabio when he came on. I thought that was a no brainer.

@dennisgichohi5392 Год назад

I hate how yall always find away to slate martinelli no matter how he playsb......saka on the other hand is a Saint,tbh nelli had a better game and was the biggest reason we won the corners .... his wing was more dangerous

@Insigspecofdust Год назад

Analysis missed the duration when Houjlund came in. The attacking style changed. Bruno Moved up. Started getting on knock down by Houjlund and Rashford started getting more on the ball.

@thehussler69 Год назад

I was disappointed by Saka the most during this game. Far too many touches and that one shot straight at Onana was disappointing.

@notitleproductions Год назад

Jesus being healthy and back in the starting 11 will be such a boost to our fluidity and build up. he loves the physical battles and dragging center halves out of position to allow the build up space to work in the zone 14. He and Zinchenko were healthy during our dominant run pre WC last year. we get a run with them healthy and starting and this team will look MUCH more fluid thru the middle, especially since no one plays against low blocks more than us, to even City. Let us gel a bit, then you'll see if they can be flexible and creative enough to overcome everyone forcing us wide. Let Saka and Martinelli have 1v1's again on the outside and they won't be putting a foot on the ball or slowing things up as they do facing double or triple teams shifting to them currently.

@sirius1807 Год назад

when every team wants to play wide as possible, Liverpool wants to play narrow as possible, like RB liepzig

@josephelsworth8550 Год назад

Great analysis! Don't quite agree on Onana's kicking when you look at how many of his long kicks were successful. I could kick it 8 yards to Lindelof too.

@simongurung7715 Год назад

We also learnt /according to Sancho, Sancho’s training was going well .

@seans11093 Год назад

only thing arsenal need to do is finish their chances in front of goal.

@laurant152 Год назад

Me and the boy in the back of the class: *this video*

@paulie4450 Год назад

2:01 is spot on. Ten Hag did the same thing in pre-season with Mainoo dropping between the 2 CBs & disrupting Arsenal's pressing, leaving both our fullbacks SUPER exposed. It was literally ALL they were doing, but was so crazy effective it was infuriating to see. Thank heavens Ten Hag showed his cards early cuz Arteta was prepared for this and the pressing anticipated this.

@scatterthewinds3126 Год назад

when arsenal figure out what to do in the final third with all that possession they will be a very strong team.

@olivercompton5654 Год назад

Could John just up and go work for a top club as an analyst? So damn smart.

@MoveAlongRomeo Год назад

I think the biggest thing slowing arsenals attacking play down is Nketiah. No disrespect to him, it’s just his skill set is not in facilitating quick movement of the ball in central areas. Several times Arsenal were on the break, Nketiah dropped deep to receive, tried to play a fast ball out to say Havertz or Martinelli, and the pass would be intercepted. They had the same issue last season when Jesus was injured after the World Cup - winning games through individual moments, rather than the system working. The system works when players like Jesus facilitate the play in central areas and drag defenders around, which isn’t Nketiahs natural instinct.