Why Man Utd were so bad against Wolves 

You mean 12 v 11, cos United always lines up with the refs on their side

Agreed and very concerned when we face spurs. Whether hojlund is fit or not the problem is still very huge. Probably dalot will start ahead of awb but still really concerned about the build up and initial press

This is very true, it really feels like a loss and even more now with the penalty issue taking all the headlines today 😂 Beautiful goal but worst 3 points I have seen in a while.

@@midknight bored of reading this rubbish now.

Well he's right.@@diskopartizan0850

Should’ve conceded 3 and given away a pen

​@@austinlatta9278He didn't though.

Amen

​@@austinlatta9278you know a gk is good when people say he should have conceded 😂😂😂😂

So was the game....

"that's their job" ~Keane (circa always)

Wolves looked so sharp with their ball carrying abilities and athleticism. United looked slow comparatively.

@@chinaman1 but they(man utd) weren't doing it

@@areeedan2889 I was talking about wolves. They were doing it.

@@areeedan2889 I was talking about wolves. They were doing it.

Parker is a top manager…😂😂😂

Lopetegui did pretty well tho

@@zacharylow8132 yea Lopetegui is top but Parker is not top not even near

@@Zidanes_Hairline I think they mean it was something perpetuated by media that Parker was a top manager for Bournemouth, I don't think he was as bad as the results suggested but as always the media tend to hype people up a bit bit too much

PL level performances? Firstly they are a PL club, anything they do is a PL level performance, and secondly he's had one game with them?

£969 million debt isn’t sustainable either

I think anybody expecting utd to be world beaters this season and from the get go are delusional. Ten Haag is building something, it's not built. So I will happily take 3 points and play bad.

United finished 3rd after Pep and Arteta who are way further in their project

Top four again this season would be as big of an achievement as winning the league in the Ferguson era. United fans need to brace themselves for numerous underwhelming performances this season.

@@CallMehXiLeits the same bs we said during ole era....

If Wolves weren't limited by FFP and could sign a player or two they would be such a threat.

It was astonishing. Almost like school kid stuff.

The 2 Matheus were running around the midfield with ease

​@@ConorDoesItAllthey need a decent striker

I disagree. United just aren’t a team. Just a collection of overrated egos. Wolves knew all the players moves. I won’t even name them it’s that obvious.

But Tifo commercialized their videos to the extent where it feels like a tiktok rather than serious analysis. JJ's awful wording and lack of belief in his own opinions doesn't help either

@@haimainjauo242 personally JJ is brilliant to me. I guess we all have our preferences.

Agreed, a brilliant analysis delivered with a great sense of humor. He makes it look easy but it's not. Immediately subscribed. Onana powerhugging players in the box". love it🤣

That is pretty wild init

@@haimainjauo242 Well, being on RU-vid, they have to be fun to watch. That's the key. I think they've found a healthy balance. It's technical enough, with just enough silliness to have flavour

It was frightening we played like a Sunday league team........that cunha was basically skipping through our centre midfield we need amrabat like right now and a strong mobile box to box like thuram

Yet we still won the match. Didn't kill much 🤷

@@jasongoodwin7654killed the midfield that’s for sure

@@jasongoodwin7654 Look at the title of the video

​@@jasongoodwin7654because wolves can't finish, that's it

outlier really, hes just not a good crosser of the ball

disagree, he is a pretty good crosser@@clairofan01

@@clairofan01 worked more than anything wolves did though, so did their tactic work??

his earlier cross literally led to the handball claim

Bruno's pass was the reason to his success. that was a regular pass from Bisakka

You nearly score a lot of goals though. That has to be exciting right?

​@@mctrials23Yeah thats why adama made it much more exciting but im excited to see how it plays out with gary o neil

sadly have to agree with you - utterly blunt in front of goal

That’s the issue

Sell ya balogun for 50 mill if you do the double over citeh :)

Wolves don't have a centres-forward either, that's not a valid point to make, it is just tactical Ten Hag was outclass last night

rsahford scored plenty o goals in that CF position tho

What exactly makes a CM or a CF? The position you played in youth football? You are positioned based on traits you possess and not some label that says “CM” slammed on top your forehead

The midfield is exactly the same as last season though, except they've swapped Mount (a player with very high work rate and energy) in for Eriksen (who for all his qualities isn't as energetic as Mount). It worked for most of last season, why should it be any different here? For me, the answer is that Casemiro is showing signs of his age, but most United fans probably wouldn't agree with that

They do have a natural CF, he just isn’t fit to play yet. Hojlund coming into midfield as he does to help out the play will naturally push one of Mount or Fernandes back to help Casemiro more.

Finally a rival fan with great analysis. As a united fan i never liked the purchase for the exact same reason, wasnt even moved when he signed cos i was confused as fo why we bought him

Ten Hag said he wanted his team to be the best transition team in the world. Mount signing makes sense from that perspective.

Ten Hag recognised that United’s problems would be solved by finally replacing Jesse Lingard.

Good analysis mate and agreed. Bit of an identity crisis at the moment with the playing style. I think Ten Hag thinks Mount can somehow play an De Jong type role, whereby he comes deep to collect and progress the ball. It won't work, he's not that type of player at least from what I've seen. He's more similar to Fernandes

Fair analysis. Ten hag dropped a clanger with that mount signing and might well have to do a walk of shame. This is what happens when a club is devoid of DOF who can challenge the manager. This is not a good look cos everyone could see this

and we had onana on steroids too

Yes, Sancho is looking great: composed, quick, working hard in attack and defense.

Sancho looked good, but he sorely missed someone to link up with. Whenever Sancho passes to Rashford, there is never a clever pass back. The ball stops at Rashford.

Antony and Sancho need to play together more. People rag on Antony so much, but he was one of the only players who looked remotely like doing anything last night. Sancho and Antony.

Yeah, and I distinctly remember Antony cutting on his right one time (literally only one time lol) and even the commentary pointed it out. He has it in him and is clearly being told to work on it. Also, I genuinely think having a striker will help him a ton. Him and Haller were brilliant together at Ajax, and that's probably why ETH bought him. We just haven't had a proper striker since he's been here.

Anthony will never be good enough as a winger, to get the best out of him he needs to be moved centrally. Think Juan Mata or even David Silva, both were wingers at one point but their managers quickly worked out they didn’t have the physical attributes to play as wingers in the PL and moved them into more central positions.

Unless spurs get semone like gift orban they wont do too much damage against united. But city, arsenal, liverpool eating tho

Eriksen is more technical than both of them

Mount = Average

@technow1355 Mount is overrated because people rated him as a "hard working midfielder". No one rated him as a midfielder with certain technical prowess.

Eriksen is not balanced. He's a deep lying playmaker who's deteriorating physically with every week that passes. All our big games last season were lost because Eriksen is too old to run the whole match (see Saka 1-1 goal at the Emirates for example). I think the issue with Mount is he's still low on confidence. I'm really sure it'll work out in the end. Mount and Bruno haven't played many minutes together yet, it takes time, but it'll work. Especially if we sign another midfielder. Also, we had way bigger problems than Mount yesterday. Everyone's passing was off and nobody showed any bravery. We'll improve, for sure.

@@technow1355 football???

Good job neither played as a number 8 then...

Mainoo 😢

​@@bismarkkwadzo5968mainoo actually was good at this before he got injured. Press resistant, good passer, and dropped very deep to receive the ball

They should try Scott before Amrabat comes

It may not even be a mistake as much as a shrewd business decision that works out for both parties in the long run. I think Iraola will be good for Bournemouth, but O'Neil could just genuinely be good in general and Wolves will be better for it.

@@williamstallings2228 I agree tbf mate I think Bournemouth will do fine, I just think that they’d have done just as well with O’Neil

it's 1 game so far. we'll see how it goes, too early to tell anything. Maybe Wolves will finish bottom

Also didn’t help that Garnacho played like prime Andros Townsend

Garnacho nullified himself yesterday lol, nothing to do with the team

You're not wrong, but Garnacho has shown the ability to make things happen by himself. He did nothing right yesterday. That's mostly on him. Hopefully it's just the nerves of finally starting and won't be a consistent theme.

Ten hag trying way too hard to copy pep. He should use the strengths of his team. Also doesn't help when he's buying players with the profile of mount instead of pep players.

​@CoconutJewce he's trying to do things that are way too complicated. His game is better when simple. Run at defenders, pass and go, shoot and score. That's all. No stopovers and fancy tricks. Not his game

Hilariously ironic. Nice coaching for allowing the player with 'no threat' to provide the assist to win the game!

“The winning assist.” Wow. 1-0 against wolves. Amazing. That’s about the only notable thing he’s done in a United shirt in what, 4 years. Boys a fraud living on easy street. Shambolic signing.

feels like he has some hidden agenda towards AWB, why didn't he talk about other players who are clearly underperforming as well

@@shudupassdid you not hear him talk about Anthony

To be fair my nan could’ve got that assist because of that great ball by Fernandes. AWB was pretty bad all game

Would've been like 4-0 lol.

Onana gave a penalty away tbf

@@TonyTynebridgeexcept he didn’t

Baby steps, boys, baby steps!

​@@mrlace4776he did, it just wasn't given, the refs have been suspended for incompetence

What midfield....?!

That's not how football works.

Ya play the same blueprint.

Ohh yaa so finally I can beat Manunited as a manager

Tbf last season you couldnt do this cuz they had eriksen. Arsenal and many teams tried it but Eriksen can play through the lines. They still have him but play less mins imo.

​@@Matthews_Dintweyes it is, brentford literally play the same game as brighton in opening last season and destroy man u

U just read my mind. Thats exactly what Real used to do. So its either ETH doesnt know or he tells them to do it and they don't. Because I don't know how anyone can expect to progress the ball vertically with only Casemiro connecting the first and second phase. Something he's terrible at btw.

It’s not that simple, Luke Shaw was playing in the double pivot when United had the ball, but as you can see in this video, Wolves overloaded the midfield.

@@jameswyatt4443 the whole point is to not have casemiro be the one under pressure making passes as he’s not the best at that. Bruno and mount can do that role perfectly and together could disrupt other teams midfields.

Bruno dropping is so useless

@@katlehotrey212it was quite normal in real’s UCL three peat to have modric and kroos come in deep while casemiro used to drift upfield. It could work for united too 🤷🏻‍♂️

It’s called the “False Midfield” and its perfect

Evil genius

lol pep has 115 answers

Pep is like Rowdy Roddy Piper, when you think you have the answers, he changes the question... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

You're right about the box midfield becoming more common now so teams know how to deal with it. However, ten Hag was actually using it last season before Pep did it with Stones. Eriksen played next to and sometimes behind Casemiro (which is how he scored all those goals) and Martial/Weghorst dropped next to Bruno. The problem is Rashford has non existent hold up play and pulling Shaw in leaves Garnacho all alone on the left which he's too young/weak for. I think Sancho looked good because he can play quick passes before he's closed down, even though sometimes it doesn't come off.

@@rishirajbose2444 I guess it all depends on who is stepping out of position to create the Box. City struggled at first when Bernardo was playing RB and coming into midfield. It’s only when Stones started doing it that everything clicked for them.

Wolves probably won't be playing with this intensity in most games.

"The eye test". Lol. Watching the game with your eyes, you mean?

I’m curious what they were learning over pre-season then

Exactly. Pellestri is the only natural winger in that team.

The refs won the game.

​@@TP-pq9xxno, varane did

Any player can make that pass as long as you are in the right position. Bissaka, like other players lacked creativity and ability to take on a player. That was the big difference between manu and wolves. Casmeiro, and grenacho also lacked the energy in the midfield. Mount and Rashford were just lost. Bissaka had a good game nevertheless but his overall performance was below average just like the aforementioned.

And he was right, the cup final was a sad performance from us, but man u were also very lucky with the nature of the goals and their timings. And this 1-0 win from man u vs wolves is the perfect summary of how man u acrue points in the Prem. With a large dose of luck, and ref/vars aiding them

@@keitholiver6152 lmao Stop the copium overdose, man. Even City, in all of their glory, very often scores scrappy and "lucky" goals. Goals 2 and 3 against Burnley were exactly that. Right place, right time with a lucky set of events that lead to a goal. Arsenal had loads of last-minute goals in ET last season (and even in the Community Shield against the almighty City). At some point, "luck" happens over and over enough times to where it can't just be "luck."

@@keitholiver6152that game wasnt a ref game, fairly lucky but that type of game happens all the time when a less talented team plays better than a more talented team, the more talented team still win sometimes based off small moments of class, this time from bruno awb and varane

Only just. Newcastle humiliated us in the league towards the end of the season. We're supposed to be challenging for the PL and CL trophies. And your argument is that we were slightly better than Newcastle last year. Desperate. Lol

@@jhpfdijtuiweruot Well the analysis of the game between us and Newcastle made it look like we were miles behind them. My point was one game doesn't mean a lot and in fact we really were ahead of them despite what that one game suggested. Sure we should be competing for PL and for that you need to get the points even on days where you aren't at your best - exactly what we did yesterday.

Yep, ETH system is based on constant positional rotation and they weren't doing that. It was bloody frustrating to watch 😅

Agreed. I was a big fan of ten Hag at Ajax, favoured his move to Utd, think he did great last season with everything going on, but this season (particularly with Onana no signed), I expect to see something actually materialise on the pitch (not necessarily perfect results, but more noticeable patterns and style).

Exactly … give and go which elementary schools are taught wasn’t happening

Yes, no movement and no effort. Wolves won every 50:50 and pretty much ever 70:30. It was embarrassing.

The main problem is that everyone thinks Maguire is the only problem, when the entire squad is unfit for purpose

I know right but bissaka the weak link made the assist 😂 football is very funny

the wan-bisaka disrespect is crazy considering he was likely utd's 2nd best player from this game (behind onana) it was his runs down the line that really have united some of their only decent chances.. and he took advantage of the disrespect they played on him and turned it against them probably being the reason utd won the game

@@brmvrm992 tell them not to understand still ha.ha.l like English

@@brmvrm992 being the best player when you are the weakest link that teams are targeting goes to show how bad everyone else was and how the system doesn't suit the players at hand.

Rashford is in dire need of a pivot to play with.

Yeah we were second to every single ball. I’m gonna be honest, this is the first time I am feeling doubts about ETH. We will lose almost every time playing like yesterday, we look a million miles off it. I hope your right and it is just fitness because I don’t know how he turns this around quickly if it’s not.

@@seb1554 tbf our preseason was crazy. Too much travel and too little training

The problem is that as good as football manager is it's not tactically flexible. You can't really set up your pressing traps how you really want even if it gives you some options

Also, some of the qualities players they talk about players having can't really be expressed in the FM engine.

@@Jur1_00 oh i know, but still, would be fun.

Last season we scraped a top four finish with just over an hour left to play, and were a million miles away from City and Arsenal. Bizarre that everyone imagines we had an amazing season when it was nothing of the sort.

​@@jhpfdijtuiweruotprobably it's the context of the year before that when it was absolutely dreadful, last year was good and positive top four and a trophy because it had been ages without silverware and the previous year it was the worst statistical season in the prem

@@tonilando Last season was tracking worse than the season before up until around March, when we ground out a decent run of narrow victories. We were shocking. SEVEN to LFC, SIX to City, THREE to Arsenal, FOUR to Brentford, TWO to a managerless Leeds at home. I could go on...

@@jhpfdijtuiweruotTbf, we were actually within range of Arsenal and City around March but suspension to Casemiro forcing McT and Fred into startis and major injury to Martinez making Lindelof and Maguire have to start was NOTICEABLE and resulted in some bad draws and losses. Depth is a problem for this team

@@jhpfdijtuiweruot we were unlucky with injury. City was the only game where all our players were fit.

Moments FC

Is not so much a disrespect, but pick your poison. Is like the Jorginho thing, who makes one of the most tackles per 90 in the Prem because teams much rather target him than say, Kante. With United, do you rather have Martinez pinging balls through, or Shaw driving up the wing, or do you prefer Wan Bissaka having to do the difficult pass? Is quite an easy choice.

If they keep playing like that, they're going to get a lot of neutral fans too. That ball carrying was scintillating. What opposition goes to old trafford and has the guts to play like that?!

Fergie was clearly on the VAR yesterday. Should have had a penalty and possibly even a red for Karate chopping the wolves player. Good game by Wolves considering really!

The likes of Giggs and Rooney were tearing up the PL when they were much younger. His age is irrelevant

@@jhpfdijtuiweruot Garnacho is not on that level...be realistic.

@@Mad_Intalect Yes that was my point. Well done for working it out

@@jhpfdijtuiweruot And you clearly didn't get mine, he needs more time, less pressure NOW, he's not a starter yet.

@@Mad_Intalect I clearly did. Yes, he’s not good enough to be a starter for Man Utd. Just another over promoted academy player to save the Glazers some money. What do you want? What is it that you are crying to me about?

Yeah, I've seen a lot of Ajax fans say that when ETH was their coach they always struggled at the start of the season until all the players ETH brings in adapt and injuries from pre-season play themselves out. It was definitely an awful performance but better than getting whipped by Brighton and Brentford on MD1 & 2 last season. A bit worrying but still confident we'll look better once Mount adapts to a new role and Højlund gets integrated.

​@tfc91420 I remember when he came in at ajax he was heavily criticized for experimenting too much

We barely scraped top 4 last season. Your comment makes no sense. Lol

His record in the EPL is diabolical.

@@jhpfdijtuiweruot i think i only said about this game and not take any record in account

@@somsundarchaudhuri7766 You said he is a class defender but his record in England shows that is demonstrably false

@@jhpfdijtuiweruot alright alright. What about his whole career, internationals

@@somsundarchaudhuri7766 How does his previous record mean that his time in the English game hasn't been diabolical? Lol

Yeah, gave Wolves way too much.

nah he was great both penalty shouts were perfectly given,non pens...the last minute one both onana and your cb were looking at the ball going for the ball and they collided,in what world is that a penalty?

Fr martinez deserved a red card

Fr, in that Liverpool game it was a clear penalty but they’d didn’t give it for some reason.

​@@shahinyoussef08it wasn't a pen bro

At the end of the season we will see how mediocre we are …as for you …let’s see you need to be outstanding to win the league or finish in top 4 …let’s see

@adrianrichards247 But Wolves are mediocre, even a professional like Lopetegui saw it.

Spent 400m in a year.. must’ve had some spare change to buy the guys in the VAR control room

@@midknight Keep crying, bud.

Sure, if only we got rid of the ENGLISH men, Mount and Maguire, we would start winning all the top trophies. Lol

@@jhpfdijtuiweruot No way we are getting rid of Mount anytime soon. We literally just signed him. ETH needs to find a system to fit him in.

@@Ilovetohaveachangenowandagain I agree that it should've been a pen. Bad officiating != "buying the refs." Keep up, bud.

That is so true

His game plan was to win

@@mrbeanie5314 We won through luck and awful ref decision. What were you watching?

Why does nobody ever call ten hagg out because he's got it wrong more than once

They were only good against Arsenal in pre-season. Most of their other games were questionable at best

We had Mainoo against ye, he's injured now🙁.

It's pre season

It’s an awful excuse, but the pitch seemed extremely slippery (fresh turf for the new season, heavy rain before kick off). Wolves obviously dealt with it better, but everyone was slipped over all over the place, made the game very clunky with favoured wolves. Utd were also really really bad on top of that though. Worrying early signs

I say it every year, preseason means nothing.

Yeah I agree even though I'm Brazilian. Extremely overrated player. Martinelli is miles better and yet Antony keeps getting called 🙄

I'm hoping Amad gets his slot in the team.

That's a stupid and bad take

He's being nurtured into a playmaker and also he has a high defensive work rate not many wingers go back to help their wing backs defensively. So if you are using the basis of goals and assists he's terrible but in other aspects he is really good

@@jamesvictor6682 PRetty much all prem wingers have just as good if not better defensive contributions nowdays. THe only exceptions are salah, rashford (when playing out wide), Mahrez (has gone now), and Willian (but hes old). PRety much every single other winger has good defensive contributions to their team. It's part of the package, what makes a winger good is their attacking play. Not G/A. Grealish doesn't have many, but he is such a good ball progressor. Anthony really is just annoying to watch. He has no pace at all, and he also is extremely predictable. He also can't cross to the back post well at all even after cutting onto his strong foot. He's a very useless player unless he gets into a 25 yard range shot from goal with his strong foot. He's a one trick and hes not underrated at all.

How would he have helped? The video is far more than just them missing a player they have yet to play with.

I predict you are very wrong. He's only played a few mintues and he wasn't exactly awful was he.

My prediction: Everyone will now start scapegoating the ENGLISH man, Mount, instead of Maguire. Oh look! It's already started!

He was absolutely not one of our best performers last night, and if you think he was then you have a serious issue with comprehending football. He got the assist and created one other chance. That was 2 moments in an otherwise entirely counterproductive 90 . Poor in possession, worse out of possession. Abandoned Antony in the press multiple times, out of position when wolves switched okay quickly. He had a good preseason and arguably earned that spot, but Dalot will be back in the team next week after that performance.

You don’t understand

@Foxtrot6624 what on Earth are you talking about? He wasn't in the team to be creating chances. That's the whole reason we signed a second attacking midfielder to play in the team, so that we have a front 5 to lead the attack and don't need the fullbacks high up the pitch where they can get caught out. When that is used effectively, he and Shaw should join with Casemiro in being the midfield block, a safety blanket against quick counter attacks, and recycling possession. He was called into going forward as the match dragged on (as did Shaw) because Antony (and Garnacho) was not providing any width which is not his problem. Dalot offers very little going forward- he has 1 goal and 2 assists in the PL over the last 2 seasons (50 games) which is a dreadful output for a supposedly attacking full back- plus defensively he is shocking so i doubt he will be replacing AWB vs Spurs. AWB did get caught out positionally once or twice but so did absolutely everyone else in the team- it was a dreadful team performance, I did not say that AWB was outstanding, merely he was better than a lot of the other dross last night. Played well the system can work- see the City 17/18 team as an example- Delph and Walker tucking into midfield alongside Fernandinho; Sane and Sterling staying high and wide and De Bruyne and Silva exploiting the gaps between full back and CB. We on paper have the players to do the same but executed it dreadfully last night. The front 5 need to do MUCH more for that to work.

@@Wolf_of_Small_St You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, at all. The fullbacks making overlapping and hnderlapping runs while the wingers hold up the ball on the edge of the box is essential to ETH build up, and has been since his time at Utrecht, nevermind Ajax. AWB and Shaw are both expected to get forward, as often as possible as long as the other (or Casemiro) is covering the space left behind. And Mount was brought in as a direct upgrade to Eriksen , who’s unable to keep the pace up throughout a full season.

@Foxtrot6624 Sorry you may not have noticed. Manchester United do not play in the Eredivisie. They play in the Premier League which is a far stronger competition. You think you can play a front 3, plus Bruno plus 2 attacking full backs - I.e a front 6 in possession leaving 4 at the back to fend for themselves? They will get eaten alive. No-one plays like that in this league- not even Guardiola or Klopp. They always have at least 5 in the defensive phase- a few years ago it was a 2-3-5, now it has moved to a 3-2-5 to form the box midfield. But the 5 in a defensive capacity remains the same regardless. What EtH did in the Netherlands is as relevant as what Roy Hodgson did in Sweden- i.e. not one bit. You can't replicate Dutch league tactics here- just ask De Boer or Van Gaal. But say you're right, and Mount was to be some deep lying creative defensive midfielder. Why Mount? He has no history of defensive roles at Chelsea. Why not an Amrabat? Or Tyler Adams? Or Tonali? Or Goretzka? A player used to playing a creative but defensive role. And if you're right, why was Mount constantly running forward into the attacking half spaces last night, shadowing Bruno, trying to link up with Rashford. Was he just spending his entire 70 mins of action ignoring what Ten Haag told him to do to sit deep? I doubt that is likely. Last night, and the friendly with Lens last week indicated that he's trying to move to a different style of play, one with two attacking 8s. The balance last night was awful and does need work, and the fullbacks will need to adapt to that as well. But the idea that they're going to be bombing forward like prime Trent and Robertson while we have 2 attacking mids on the pitch, in this league, is fanciful.