The west font know the truth. But we Chinese do it more and freely then a us citizen can ever dream of. In USA, you say communism is good, everyone loses their mind. In China you say. Democracy is good, no one gives a fuk.
Without the solid foundation laid by Mao,it is impossible to achieve today's China. That's why Mao always ranks above Deng though I am benefited more through Deng's policies.
1. "Chinese government never admits its wrong doings" fact: it is in official history statements that the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution were failures and remembered as "decades of disaster". it is official, it is fact. 2. "Chinese politicians are above the law" fact: China sentenced 4 of its then top ranking politicians to death, one of which is the wife of Mao the founding father of PRC, for the harm they've done to the nation and the people. meanwhile, anyone remind me is there a single case when an American high ranking politician were put to justice for anything? Or are they all innocent and good? such as the illegal invasion of Iraq?
It depends on who was the winner. (1) If it was KMT that won, China would still be better than India. It will probably be a bigger version of Taiwan. It will NEVER be a superpower but also not too poor. (2) If it was the UK that won, China would probably become the biggest opium den in the world. Probably worse than just a 2nd India. (3) If it was the US that won, China would just become a bigger version of Honduras or Nicaragua or Haiti. (4) If it was Portugal that won, China would be a big casino!
@@ChinaSongsCollection KMT (aka Kuominggang) was the government of China from 1917 to 1949, and it ruined China! That was why the Chinese people with Mao's help kicked it out!
“浩劫” （catastrophe）is a misused word when talking about Cultural Revolution. Chinese popluation increased from 735 millions in 1966 to 930 millions in 1976. The GDP increased from 188.876 billions to 367.81 billions. What type of "catastrophe" was that??? Of course, some social elites (i.e. artists，politicians and scholars) got impacted in those days, who quickly regained the right to a say after cultural revolution, and they are the ones who hate Mao the most.
Without Mao, we wouldn't see the China that exists today. That's why the Chinese don't hate him. Mao overthrew the disastrous ROC. Mao unified all of China. Mao laid the foundation for China's industrialization. Without Mao, we wouldn't have the brilliant reform in 1978 by Deng Xiaoping. This reform led to 45 years of peaceful economic rise into the world's largest economy (by purchasing power parity).
Prior to foreign occupation, China was the world's richest nation, largest producer, and exporter for over two millennia. So-called capitalism originated in China thousands of years before spreading to Europe. China pioneered assembly line mass production factories with machines, the banking system, paper money, trading centers, freight ships, and much more. China became poor as a result of the British Opium War invasions, the Eight-Nations Alliance invasion, and the Japanese invasion, during which foreign countries took and ravaged China of its wealth. The British and Americans started military invasions on China to steal its wealth. China was wealthy due to its enormous commerce. Prior to the First Opium War, China's produced at least 60% of the whole world's GDP.
And by 1950, the PLA became such an effective fighting force that they defeated the only U.N. army ever created in the Korean War, comprised of all the rich western nations.
In 1949, life expectancy in China was below 40, and illiteracy rate was over 85%. In 1976, there were 66 and below 25% respectively. (Now, there are 78 and 99%). Before 1949, warlords were all over the country and foreign “租界” were all over big cities. These numbers and facts tell how Chinese people think about Mao.
Mao didn't start the Cultural Revolution; the people did! When American journalist Edgar Snow met with Mao and inquired about the cultural revolution being carried out by the people, Mao informed him that he had to respect people's decision. Mao had to take particular measures to safeguard Edgar Snow since he was an American, whom the Chinese people considered to be terrible foreigners!
Painting someone inherently evil is just propaganda. And in this particular case, it's a largely the legacy of cold war propaganda that only Westerners (US allies) are exposed to. Not saying he didn't do bad things just saying that attributing what he did to his character is pretty subjective. And honestly it's pretty bad because once you are made to believe it, it stop you from even begin to ask deeper questions of how things happened.
Chairman Mao Zedong was a great leader, one of the greatest the world has ever known. It still brings me to tears when I see the old, grainy film of him proclaiming the founding of the PRC. His voice calling, as if from a great distance, from the very depths of history, for the Great Chinese Nation to rise up. “The Chinese people have stood up”. And his fight, his Revolution was not just against foreign imperialism but against the centuries old feudalism, the evil gentry and the lawless landlords, and where did they and all the warlords and the running lapdogs disappear to? Many fled like cowards and from foreign shores try to spread lies about Chairman Mao and smear his great name. To this very day! Of course the western propaganda machine helping generously, still smarting from being kicked, ignominiously, in the backside by the Based Mao. I’m so sick of hearing that he killed 30, 40 some even say 80 million, OF HIS OWN PEOPLE! BIGGEST LIE EVER!! As many people have commented, China would not be where it is today without Chairman Mao. (I am sorry but because I cannot write that well, I cannot do proper justice to such a great man and leader)
My own view of Mao (and Churchill) has changed over the years. Your comparison of Mao with Churchill is very instructive! Mao could also be compared with Napoleon, in changing the political order and bringing socialism to China, a genuine break with the past. Whereas Churchill was ultimately conservative. Also interesting is that the people who suffered under the Cultural Revolution (eg, Deng, Zhou, Xi) still respect Mao (while acknowledging his shortcomings). On the other hand, British/English admirers of Churchill seem ignorant of Churchill’s racist and imperialist actions. No objective evaluation. Brainwashed?
This is what Mao did to the Chinese people: At the founding of Communist China in 1949, literacy rate was 15%, life expectancy 41 years, immunization zero. In 1976, when Mao died, literacy rate increased to 80%, 100% for young people, life expectancy 68 years, immunization 100%. Today even though China’s per capita GDP is only 1/6 of that of the US, its high life expectancy of 79 years is comparable to the US. This is because resources are more evenly distributed in China and the Chinese society is much more fair to the under-privileged class.
comparing GDP per capita is illusive, living standard of people in US and China has no such differentce, people in China may earn 1/3 of what US people earn, but everything in China cost only 1/3 when compare to US.
The prices in USA are many times that in China, people in USA are paying higher prices for most things in comparison to China. Also a lot of USA's GDP depends on products made in China, large percentage of the consumer goods sold in Walmart and many other retail stores come from China. Medical expenses, housing costs, insurances, utilities and more have much higher prices that those in China. USA collects a lot of money from other countries where US military bases are installed, those "protection money" are counted as GDP. USA is the world's biggest war weapon maker, dealer and exporter, revenues from war weapons also counted as GDP.
When Mao took over China, the average life expectancy was 35, yes, 35. When he left that number increased to 65, more than double the world’s average growth in the same period. Ask any Chinese, including those who lived through the difficult years, who’s the better Chinese leader, Mao or Deng, you would get overwhelming votes for Mao. Before I came to China, I read all the negative things about him. As I grow older and as I learn more about the imperialistic behavior of the US, I see why the Chinese like Mao.
Because every time the Chinese poop, a NATO sprouts out of the ground. And their "One China Policy" means "we prefer worshipping Taiwan". They have been doing the same mercantilism forever, and it's still the same family behind it all. They created all the nonsense in Europe, like the story of how Europe is this "New World", and Newton "witnessed gravity once in it". They blocked out the Koreans with their stupid wall, and THAT'S WHY we don't practice a racism in which the Chinese are highly respected. The Deng Xiaoping banter is all nonsense. Most importantly, we STILL don't know HOW the Chinese found out about my food recipes and stole all of them over 3,200 years ago.
Same here dude, I used to believe all the lies about China and would argue with my parents about Mao as murder and everything else but now that I’m older and it’s also thanks to many RU-vidr like hotpot king Nathan that really helped put the history of China straight for me.
So true. There was also the use of bioweapons in the rice bowls of China. Most probably using weapons ffrom the jap Unit731. This info was from the BBC in the 90s-2000 back when the BBC was not totally fake news
As an outsider, my observation is that more and more younger generations in China are coming to have better and better understanding of Mao and the Great Cultural Revolution. That definitely frightens the capitalist elites and their puppet intellectuals a lot.
Well said and spot on. Mao is hated immensely by the Western leader because Mao is seen as an enemy to their Imperialism and greedy Capitalism. Therefore if ever Communism do well people in the West will begin to question and challenge their government policy, priorities and what's all these By the people, To the people, For the People .......BS. when compare the real truth on the ground between the two opposite system.
The main difference between Mao and Churchill is that it was Chinese people that endured Mao's mistakes and his positive actions while it was the colonies and other people that endured Churchill's "mistakes" while the "Great" Britain enjoyed all the benefits. They are not the same type of actions. This is a comparison between apple and oranges.
When you talk to Chinese people about Mao, age groups and where they lived will divide their opinions. Those who lived through the bad times might be reluctant to be honest about their feelings. As well, the passage of time will modify people's impressions. Bear the age groups in mind: Pre- baby-boomer generation who has experienced the Japanese invasion and civil war, the baby boomers (1955-1964) who lived through the land reforms, great leap forward famine and cultural revolution, the Gen X (1965-1980) at a turning point of market reforms, aspiration to be more "western" leading to the Tiananmen event, Millennial (Gen Y) 1981-1996 who experienced China's economy catching up, Gen Z (1997-2012) who are in the explosive double-digit growth boom of China and has little memory of the really tough years, Gen Alpha (2010-2025) knows only a strong and quite prosperous industrial China, they witnessed rapid transformation. As well, city people and village folks will carry different memories. As for the Chinese diaspora living outside of mainland China, their opinions will be subjected to western propaganda that smears Mao and CCP. Mao is a human, not a saint and he has shortcomings. But in the longer arc of China's history, he is a pivotal figure, a strategist and scholar who deserves recognition for what China is today.
The cultural revolution is pretty much the most misunderstood aspect of Chinese history, both in China and in the west. I'll blow people's minds by asking them, "was China's GDP growing or shrinking during the cultural revolution?" Almost everyone thinks it shrunk, when it actually grew an average of 5.5% from 1966-1976. This proves that society wasn't as chaotic as depicted. Also, the cultural revolution annihilated thousands of years of patriarchy in only a few years. Chinese men and women had equal pay, equal rights, were treated the same, dressed the same, and were given equal respect. Since then, Chinese society has had back-sliding on gender-equality. My parents-in-law, Chinese citizens, one of which was a Red Guard, both had a blast during the cultural revolution. The trains were free so the Chinese people could travel around the country for the first time and explore and learn. They didn't engage in the condemnations and cultural destruction. They took the time to travel and learn. It wasn't all sunshine and rainbows, but to simply dismiss the cultural revolution as "bad" is to miss a lot of what happened.
@@jasonjean2901 Before the cultural revolution, it is much easier to tell if a Chinese person is male or female by looking at their names. By now, it is getting harder and harder as many women got names that traditionally could be male names. Ask you in-laws if the cultural revolution played a role.
@@stanbimi The cultural revolution undoubtedly had some sort of effect on Chinese names because it was an entire decade of modern history, but don't see any definitive connections regarding how exactly this could have happened beyond the horrendous fact that, prior to 1949, there were areas of China, most rural, where women weren't given names at all. Giving men and women equal rights and respect during the Cultural Revolution, undoubtedly would have brought about a quick change to such practices, if they hadn't been eliminated already. The changes in names, making it less clear whether someone is a boy or a girl, seems to mostly stem from the 37-year One-Child Policy. In the cities where it was more stringently enforced, people started naming their daughters names which were traditionally reserved for men. Parents liked this because the names highlighted traditional masculine traits, such as strength and power.
Mao was the first leader in China's history who did not want to create his dynasty with rulers from his descendants. In fact, his only son was sent to fight in Korean War and died there! As for Cultural Revolution, it demonstrated his wisdom in taking out the fellow nation builders and their 2nd and 3rd generations in using their powers for corrupt and unfair practices for their own gain due to their self-justified rights from contributing to establishment of the new Nation. Coupled with successful land reform redistributing the land resources to general population. These laid a solid foundation for China's future development.
"Mao zedong give liberation and Deng xiaoping gave food" Mao Zedong's era was mainly about solving the problem of "The Chinese People Have Stood Up", and it was solved very well. The Korean War was the PRC's war of prestige. After this war, no country dared to invade China, and this was the "Peace dividend". In the past, there were always powerful countries that wanted to invade China; For example, the Eight-Nation Alliance, Japanese imperialism, and Tsarist Russia. Now no country dares to invade China. The Chinese People's Volunteers are very brave, they did so well in the Korean War. Later, some border conflicts occurred, such as the Sino-Indian border conflict and the Sino-Soviet border conflict. Mao Zedong solved the problem of "The Chinese People Have Stood Up " very well, and also solved the problem of "Two Bombs, One Satellite" and the initial complete industrial system, the basic industrial system of China was built by Mao Zedong. China first studied the Soviet Union and received 156 major projects from the Soviet Union, the largest transfer of intellectual property in the history of human, which immediately laid the foundation of China's industry. Mao Zedong opened the door to rapprochement with the United States in his later years. China invited Nixon to visit China in 1972 under the iron curtain of the Cold War, which pitted the United States and the Soviet Union against each other. Nixon's visit to China made possible a rapprochement between the United States and China, thus paving the way for China's subsequent "reform and opening up" to the West. When the PRC was established, it first learned from the Soviet Union. Then China and the Soviet Union fell out, China 360 ° reversal turned to the United States to learn. During the Cold War, if a socialist country engaged with the United States, the leader of the Western bloc, the politicians of that country had to take huge political risks. If he were not Mao Zedong, such a move would have been criticized from all sides within the CPC, and no one would have dared to make such a decision. Only Mao Zedong had the prestige to make such a decision without opposition from inside or outside the CPC. Mao was a great strategist who never rigidly or confined himself to the ideological battle between the Western Bloc and the Eastern Bloc of the Cold War, a dramatic shift in diplomatic strategy. What happened afterwards, as we now know, was that before the collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War, the Western Bloc invested a great deal of capital to win China as an "ally". China received the appropriate technical support from two different industrial systems, the United States and the Soviet Union, respectively, Now, even as China faces collective hostility from the Western Bloc, it can continue to grow in an environment that is decoupled from the outside world in a way that the United States cannot. This is because China is the only country in the world that has a complete industrial chain. In his later years, Mao Zedong approved the "4.3 Project", which brought in 26 projects with $4.3 billion in international financing. Eleven of these projects were chemical fibers, which solved the problem of clothing for Chinese people. These 11 projects are equivalent to 1 billion mu of cotton. Fifteen of these projects were chemical fertilizer projects, with which China's grain production began to increase. In this way, the problem of food and clothing for the Chinese people was basically solved. China's industrialization process: the first is to establish "industrial foundation" and "Two Bombs, One Satellite". With strong strength and means, other countries dare not invade China. The second step is to solve the problem of food and clothing, and the third step is to reform and open up with peace of mind. "Stand up" was the first stage, and Mao Zedong solved it very well. The 2 stage - "Become rich", implemented by Deng Xiaoping, Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao To be fair, the implementation of "Become rich" has been quite good, despite its flaws, such as the much-criticized over-capitalization. Now China's economy is the second largest in the world in terms of nominal GDP and the first in terms of real purchasing power parity GDP. The 3 stage - "Become strong", implemented by Xi Jinping In Xi Jinping's era, China has naturally reached the third stage of its development - "Become strong". Just like people have different mentality in different physiological periods, China has definitely changed in this stage. China will change dramatically in the era of Xi Jinping and his successors, both in terms of hard power and soft power. The defects left by the 2 stage will also be fixed.
Well said! When i see Westerners criticizing Moa’s failure and condemn him for the cultural revolution, the deaths of so many Chinese in the Great Leap Forward, and saying why there are no museums of the cultural revolution and Tianamen Square incident…etc. Being Chinese descent living in the US, I like to point out to them that, without Moa’s and all the revolutionaries of the era, China would not have accomplished the total sovereignty of today! It was a complete revolution! The dark days were tragic for sure. But no society could not have the dark days during such great transition! And nothing could negate the necessity of China’s great revolution! The heroes of China revolution devoted themselves completely to the cause! I am so proud to be Chinese today because China truly stood up!
Although Mao Zedong made mistakes in his later years, this cannot conceal his contribution in leading the Chinese Communist Party and the Chinese people to escape from semi-colonial and semi-feudal society. He is undoubtedly a genius in the political and military fields, but economics is an area in which he is not good at. This may be related to the era and growth experience he lived in. He lived in an era when European and American colonists plundered China. In order to maintain their own power, China's domestic rulers flattered the colonists, oppressed and exploited the people, and ignored the suffering of the people's lives. Therefore, he may know more about the political and military fields and less about the economic field. The reason why Chinese civilization has lasted for thousands of years is that it upholds the tradition of "preserving good and eliminating evil". Therefore, the Chinese people will not give up inheriting and learning Mao Zedong's excellent political and military knowledge because of Mao Zedong's mistakes in his later years. The way the Chinese evaluate him is not to choose whether he is good or bad, but to list his advantages and disadvantages, inherit his advantages and discard his shortcomings.
Because every time the Chinese poop, a NATO sprouts out of the ground. And their "One China Policy" means "we prefer worshipping Taiwan". They have been doing the same mercantilism forever, and it's still the same family behind it all. They created all the nonsense in Europe, like the story of how Europe is this "New World", and Newton "witnessed gravity once in it". They blocked out the Koreans with their stupid wall, and THAT'S WHY we don't practice a racism in which the Chinese are highly respected. The Deng Xiaoping banter is all nonsense. Most importantly, we STILL don't know HOW the Chinese found out about my food recipes and stole all of them over 3,200 years ago. The use of currency was our revolution against religious extremism, and when China found out, they really took advantage of it. Even the past century in Russian government is written from a perspective of "we're DEFINITELY not past this Chinese nonsense yet, but we're still brave, vulnerable members of a group of organisms at a particular time with nothing to hold ourselves up to the Barrages Of China but common courtesy"
If you notice, the older generation who had 'tasted the bitterness of poverty, civil war and bullying' appreciated what Mao had done despite the hardship they went through. To these people, Mao freed them from the clutches of Western and Japanese dominance and corrupted rich landlords. Puyi, the last Emperor was a British puppet and I read he ganged up with the Japanese to bomb the villages (really, that sealed his fate as losing the mandate from heaven) but was surprised the Chinese did not butcher him to bits after what he had done and let him live his life till in old age. Remeber the story of the first Qin Emperor? He certainly was no kind soul but in history he was recognised for uniting the various kingdoms.
Mao is no less than 90% good as a person. His leadership projects were about 70% success and 30% failures.. He did many very big and very difficult projects.
My dear fellow, there is one crucial question that is hidden in your brief comparison between the western lauded Churchill and the western demonised Mao, I.e. how many Africans, Irish, Iraqis, Egyptians, Palestinians, Welsh, Bengalis, Indians, Colonial Asian had Mao killed❓Yes a lot of Chinese died as a result of his revolution, Mao and China has never colonised other nations by force, as fas as we know. No doubt the west would have cted these if these could be found or manufactured. Just musing🙏🙏
There is no reason for Chinese people to hate Mao, he was the best chairman China ever has! The positive impact he brought to New China is way more than negative impact.
they are right. without mao, china would be invaded either militarily or pillaged by western corporations and capitalists. despite his missteps in the cultural revolution and great leap forward, he unified the country in a time of turmoil.
I remember going to people's houses in China and nearly all household had a picture of Mao Zedong. I don't see the Queen or Churchill's picture in English houses.
Mao unite China and Chinese people into one strong country China and one strong nationality Chinese. Without Mao, today China will has hundreds of million live a life like the Dalit in the neighbor country and go to bed with hungry stomach almost every night. Poor malnutrition children can't even live to the age of 5. Salute to Mao for his contributions to this huge country and huge population.
For people in the west Mao only appears in their history radar after the second phase of the chinese civil war. But Mao and most of the important people that won the chinese civil war, unified the country and made the foundations of what is China today, people like Zhou Enlai, Deng Xiaping, Lin Biao and Zhu De. All were already part of the major historical developments of China since the fall of the last Qing Emperor in 1910s. Most of them were impressive young men, that attained either impressive military achievements, social and political accomplishments when most of them didn't even reached their 40 years of age. The chinese people then knew of their achievements and that is why they followed them en masse. Their epic journey as young men is close to the founding fathers of the US, if not much more epic, since they faced impossible challenge after impossible challenge. Few nations and societies in the 20th century can boast such will behind a young brilliant generation that led their nation out of such dark times and beat impossible odds. For me only Ho Chi Minh's Vietnam and Ataturk's Turkey come close.
Yeah Mao did save China. Many Chinese acknowledged his greatest achievement was expelling foreign powers and reclaiming China as to what we see today. I bet many older generations of Taiwanese also acknowledge his achievement too.
But many of the Taiwanese including the surviving older generation still want to cling onto the coat tails of the Westerners whom they worship and want to be enslaved to.
It's important to point out the context behind the cultural revolution. What's often getting glossed over by anybody else about the cultural revolution is the external factors that contributed significantly to the decision for Mao and the people close to him (who were just as much responsible for the exacerbated situation) to carry out the campaign. What's that? Tl;Dr, the Sino-Soviet Split happened because of the stubborn Soviet leadership, Western sanctions and embargoes and the increasing threats of the perceived American imperialism and hegemony. Vincent Bevins in his book The Jakarta Method, disclosed the documents that revealed about what sparked the cultural revolution in China, which was Mao's own reaction after learning about the mass killings of millions alleged Indonesian communists from 1965-'66, following the overthrow of Indonesia's first president Sukarno (a close ally to Indonesian communists a.k.a. PKI) by the Indonesian military general and a Western ally Suharto. This event cemented his fear of similar Western intervention as well as his hatred against anyone perceived as "actors/agents of Western capitalism and hegemonic influence" at home.
I am Chinese and Mao is one of the most loved and respected leaders of all time in our country. Period! Without him, we would probably have been colonized and no way out like some countries today! He was not perfect but he saved our country!
Without Mao, China would have modernized sooner, similar to Taiwan as Chiang Kai Shek would have ruled China. China would have experienced capitalism faster and would not have been colonized as Chiang Kai Shek wanted to nuclearized China as well.
The Western mindset is good or bad, white or black... however, the Chinese mindset is not black or white, 1 or 2. For example, concerning Mao, he's 70% good, 30% bad. Correct me if I got the % wrong. ☯🕊
Winston Churchill is hated by Indians. Whenever people discussing about bad leaders, Indians would point to Churchill while Westerners bring up Stalin or Mao😂.
The West likes to paint Mao as evil . easy narrative. That's fine. The most important is how the Chinese themselves in China think? I don't know much about China history but for one thing, Chinese has a ability to hold two opposing thoughts much like yin and yang and look at the bigger picture. Yes, he did some things wrong (like bad policies in western countries) but he also did some things right according to the Chinese. So you weigh the bad policies vs the good policies. It is easier to judge in retrospect. I think the China Chinese valued his contribution to the freeing China from the West. Without Mao, China would be a absolute Western colony and broke into pieces. Why did the civil war happened (between CPC and Kuomintang)? I thought I read that was social issues .. the gap between the rich and poor, the peasants against the landlords? Correct me if I am wrong.
this is an easy one. KMT had the overwhelming advantage with US supplied military hardware, but lost to a peasant Red army. why? KMT was rotten to the core and the people sided with Mao, quite simple.
as an Chinese, I can not say there is no Chinese hate Mao, but as I remember I didn't met in real life or internet. there is indeed many Chinese criticize Deng.
Mao zedong is Unparalleled that's Why he is known as Chairman in China if not in the Global Countries around the Earth Planet 😂🎉❤ . He is known as Leader's , motivate inspire , liberation, encourage to face lives and life Challenges whether Human to natural Calamity, freedoms from bondage of incompetent, deficiency, laziness , lack of knowledges and Poverty , lack of literacy and education, lack of Sciences, engineering, technologies, scientific know-how and supremacy in comprehensive of factual facts of sustainability adaptation economic and development in professionalism from present to future . Man of positive to insight ful relationship as a Whole . That's Why and What China is today now in Global Environment as ecofriendly to all 😂❤🎉 .
I don’t hate Mao because I am not a direct victim of him. But my parents in law do hate him because of their life experience. Although I don’t like Mao either, I understand that he had his own vision, also his own limitations. He can’t be right all the time, he has done something wrong, but he had his contribution to the Chinese history.
Landlords and wealthy owners hates him cause he kind of prevent them from having anymore “slaves” aka servants and for them to split their lands to give to the poor. Without doing this revolution China will be like India with extreme inequality.
Land division is very important to divide the powers from the upper wealthy elite class and give it to peasants who are in desperate needs of resources.
He kept China safe from the West. This is the basis of everything. In the face of life safety, the economy is not important at all. His greatest achievement is to allow us to survive safely, including the creation of nuclear bombs, which cannot be compensated by the economy. You don’t understand the respect Chinese people have for their own culture. Whoever can protect Chinese civilization gets our support. Because Chinese civilization is very, very important to the entire human race. The West doesn't like him simply because Westerners have no way of controlling him. And they don’t know under what conditions Mao unified China and went to war with the West. Mao can be said to have accomplished the almost impossible.
I actually had quite a negative view on Mao, I thought he did more harm than good but not actually having lived through the period,I don't think I truely understand the good he's given the country. He basically pressed the reset button for the 98% poor people of China giving them an equal fighting chance at a shot in life through the cultural revolution.
Mao can invoke instant negative views in the west. Brilliant to compare Churchill to put Mao's accomplishments and failures into perspective for the west.
after I posted this comment here, I got a punishment for not being able to comment for 24 four hours due to my "hate speech". From when pointing out we are hated by someone is considered a hate speech? Is this the new love of some of you and/or RU-vid? Thanks for your freedom of speech.
Through this years, I read, listened and studied many about that period of history. The more I learnt about it, the more I admired Chair man Mao, his poem, his command, his wisdom, his humor, and most of all, his purist love for Chinese people and full devotion of lifting the oppression that was put on the poor and the oppressed. I almost feel heart-broken when some of the Chinese just went along with the rhetoric that Mao was the one that should be blamed with the Great Leap forward and the Culture Revolution. I especially can't stand that some stupid and ignorant of our people call him dictator. It is a betrayal and it is beyond outrageous. Chinese people, ask yourself a simple question: Who took the lead to grant you more rights than the others throughout the entire 5000 year history of our civilization! Though it will be very unlike due to our political culture, but I really would like one day, there will be a open debate about that period of history and redeem our dearest leader whom was conveniently and viciously accused of the "crime" that he didn't commit.
KMT white terror event in Taiwan is something the west never mentioned as this involves in U.S. backed gov in Taiwan massacring thousands of people who doesn’t want their ruling. And KMT dictatorship didn’t end until like 1998.
Many Fujianese or Taiwanese of that time tried to escape the KMT regime but was either imprisoned or killed. The reason for this is because at the time Taiwan is a province of fujian and many fishermen goes back and forth between them and have families in the Fujian region. Basically you have families on both side who attempted to cross the water to get to their families but were prevented or killed for doing so.
Xi learned what it is like being subjected to hard, manual labor in the farms and that taught him to be a better person growing up. Neither his Poverty Alleviation Program that brought 600 - 800 million Chinese out of abject poverty and his BRI Program to help achieve the same for many poverty-stricken countries around the world came out of nowhere. Xi was made to work in the farms during the Cultural Revolution but it was a period of enlightenment for him and all kudos to him for being broadminded enough to accept his learning experience. Many of our own "ivory-tower encased" politicians today in our Capitalist society could do well to go work and live among their own lowest classes of citizens in "struggle street" to see what it is like being burdened with their policies.
American leaders did blunders after blunders after blunders in the 60s and 70s. (Kennedy was womanizer)Mao did some mistakes but Chinese people still love him very much.
and the U.S. leaders continue to make bad decisions at home and abroad in the 80s, 90s, 2000s .... remember Iraqi WNDs? Afghanistan? and now, Gaza and The West Bank Palestinians? And what of the homeless tent "cities" and runaway drug problem and their border security and lack of social housing and medical care? All at the same time when they have leaders who are womanizers, business con-artists and tax cheats.
I believe the guy at 5:38 meant to say, "Capitalism may develop here. That's not (necessarily) a bad thing but it definitely wouldn't be (as good) as now."
Capitalism need not "develop" in China because capitalism has already been living in the blood of the Chinese for thousands of years. Rampant capitalism in which "anything goes" was suppressed in the Mao years before the genie in the bottle was slowly released again under Deng but this time, controlled under heavy chains and a whip.
As a decendant of the Chinese diaspora and western educated and personally I preferrred Deng and Xi over Mao. And my favorite modern Chinese leader is Sun Yatsen. But having hindsight, Mao was the right leader at the time. Did he made mistake? Was he ruthless? Both yes. But, China was in a broken state and sanction by the richest countries in the world. In the geopolitic chess game, it is as if he only had four pawns and the king piece and his opponent have all the pieces. As much as I admire Sun, Deng and Xi, I don't think they could have been the kind of leader that could prevent China from either breaking up into pieces or became a vassal state of a foreign power. Perhaps a Li Si Min, Zhuge Liang or Zhang Liang reincarnated, or heck, put in Augustus, LIncoln, any great leader, even then I kind of doubt it. And in that, he has to be great. See, that's the thing about comparing leaders. Once you put the contest of time, location and situation they were in, it's pretty much pointless.
To learn history we also need to feel living in what situation exactly at that time. China get sanctioned because land reform and the elite rich landlord both kmt and foreign consesions lost their land& wealth, so they fight back. like Korean War and India border clash is part of US attempt to break China. In cold War no doubt there is lot of crazy leader, and mao is ready and ask Soviet to go for nuclear war. All resources heavily allocated to military spending, and "sacrifice" Is needed. But Soviet refused and that caused sino Soviet breakup.
Mao made many great mistakes in his lifetime especially The Great Leap and The Culture Revolution, but the Chinese remembered how he pulled China out of a semi-colony status. The Korean war was CCP's most important war! It shocked the Soviets how the Chinese drove the UN forces from North Korea. The Soviets thought that the Chinese would be defeated by the UN force as both the US & Soviet think lowly of the Chinese military forces. It was the Korean war that stopped any country of thinking of attacking China again with conventional warfare. The Israel-Hamas war make the Chinese strongly felt they that had chosen the right form of government seeing how the whole West was controlled by ultra-rich Jews whose loyalty were not to the country that they were a citizen to, but to Israel!
the msitakes he commited is only the outcome of his trail and error, he was searching the way for the development of China, there was no textbook for him.
@@baersworth2010Exactly. He wanted so much for the Chinese people, and we had too little at his time. We are saddened for the ones hurt during the process. We respect Mao's effort and admire his unparalleled achievement. We cannot forget who laid the foundation for the China today.
Mao's wife, two brothers, a cousin, nephews, and his wife's niece were all arrested and killed by the Kuomintang.He sent his late wife's son to war in Korea.Almost all of his family died for the Chinese Revolution.😢😢😢
@@tingyang5619 I understand how Chinese felt about him now but it was not like that in the 1980s when China opens up to the world! Especially those who suffered immensely where whole families were wiped out and people suffering from PSTD. It was estimated that there were at least 20 million deaths due to the Great Leap! If you family is all wiped out except you in The Great Leap or the Culture Revolution, would you have felt the same? I have friends who were the sole survival of their family because of the Great Leap and I can felt their pain! I agreed that it is true that he laid the foundation of China but that does not discount the immense tragedy that he had created where 2 generations of people suffered catastrophically. We learn from history and not deny the facts. It is extremely dangerous to idolize him to the status of a god where he cannot be criticized or judged!
The war mongering Americans who thinks they have the rights to speak on behalf of Chinese, Russian, Africans, or anyone whose is their enemies basically.
It's a bit too early to say because Mao's impact is not completely clear yet, but I think Mao will eventually go down Chinese history as one of the greatest leaders.
Why don't Chinese Hate Mao? There's any number of reasons that can explain it without considering the very real possibility maybe many Chinese DON'T actually like Mao. Like, for example, a lack of information. Media, whether you like it or not, IS strictly controlled and censored by the CCP in China. This is fact. We can talk trash about "mainstream media" in the west all we want, but and the end of the day we have the option/luxury to view opposing and diverse viewpoints. A British person can still look up all the horrible things Churchill has done. Or, say, what Kissinger has done. It's entirely possible to be critical of Mao but also critical of Churchill or anyone else for that matter. I've noticed some people seem to be suggesting the West is hypocritical or what have you but you're ignoring the growing discourse and calls to reexamine historical figures. And although there are still ardent supporters of people like, say, ChristopherColumbus. . there are just as many calling to tear down his statues. You don't see that really in china. There's also the issue of who your sample is. People who've died because of Mao's policies and choices don't have a voice, you know. Or the Chinese people who've fled to, say, Taiwan or further abroad to escape his regime. Certainly Mao was a unifying figure during a period of uncertainty and he was preceded by an age of strife and corruption. The warlords were undeniably bad people. When you SEEM better than your predecessors, that'll boost your numbers.
Mao is a complex character. Indeed, it is not often that men of great import have never erred during their time in power. Mao's leadership during the early formative years of the Communist Party of China under severe persecution by the Nationalist KMT, the fight against the Japanese invaders, and subsequently winning the Civil War and unifying China once more, and land reforms implemented enabled millions of poor farmers to own their land and dismantled the feudal nature of Chinese society. These are monumental accomplishments. It forms the foundations upon which modern China rose. The errors during the Cultural Revolution, were stains upon Mao's legacy. The CPC openly criticize Mao's errors in the Cultural Revolution. This is documented in CPC public documents. As such, it is somewhat pointless to boil Mao down to a "Good' 'Bad' binary. What is true is that modern China understands the dangers of personal deification, and has been on guard against it ever since Mao.
Churchill did it in the name of PRESERVING the "greatness" of the British Empire. He was even willing to sacrifice some of the British "lesser" colonies like Australia to the invading Japanese during WW2 (he certainly sacrificed lots of young Australian lives in W1 in his debacle Gallipoli Campaign that failed)
@@George123-bv7xq white man success was built on stolen loot in the name of Jesus, they commit tons of evil earn tons of gold made women and children suffer in hell to become successful countries.
Thank you for this video. I have been perplexed about this sentiment for a long time. Without Mao, China's rise would have been similar to Taiwan's. Taiwan was still able to modernize without the cultural revolution which was an internal war that caused more hardship after decades of absolute suffering.
Is it possible both side actually did similar things? You can check on whether on Wikipedia or historical documents, in Taiwan Chiang Kai Shek had done the land reform to free the land from the landlords and used strong (extreme) centralized power to develop economy, which was also adopted by Singapore and South Korea(sumsing was founded back then to develop industrial economy under military gov). But if Chiang kai shek won the civil war he wouldn’t be able to did what he can do in Taiwan, because inside China it was so divided that there were too many warlords, so nobody would listen to central gov bc they don’t want to hand over their own interest. If then China would be puppets of USA and USSR, not the China you can see right now.
Dude stfu. Taiwan didn't fight a 30 year old civil war, a war with the Japanese, and a war with the US in Korea. Mao's China did all of that, and was constantly fighting off all sorts of sabotage efforts employed by the US. Taiwan is nothing more than a dust in the legacy of what Mao and China have achieved. It was the Bretton woods agreement by the US, that made Taiwan what it is today. US most certainly cannot replicate the same that with a country of 1.4 billion people. Sh!t they can't even develop Haiti anymore.
Seeing things from all perspectives is important.🌔 [Right all right Wrong all wrong] Nobody can be politically right to survive in such an ideological world:( We need to separate things and judge the situation. I’m not an expert on political science! Most Chinese people have positive feelings for Mao Ze Dong. There is why? Mao Ze Dong was a great leader of China~ Elegant looking•Charming•Charisma•Fight with people•Encourage people for a brighter future☼ Being a great leader doesn’t mean perfect. On a big scale, he United China & left all oppressed people out of the darkness based on good intentions. Political different sides will hate them. He made mistakes when he was older age and under some health conditions. That’s why everything relaying to one person can be a problem. Feel very upset about the innocent people during the Cultural Revolution. If I had a superpower I’d make all good spirits people rebirth and have beautiful life again🌟 I didn’t have any bad experiences with the Chinese government in my life. For me, they’re pretty normal. Not as Western media said. But that doesn’t mean I agree with all or there are not bad people:? Human nature is capable of good & evil. As an artist I like to see things from all different perspectives 💭 think as an independent thinker •Free self from WAR crime propaganda☁️ Political right & side hustle is not my thing:/ There is one thing I don't like about political sides fighting. Now go so wrong… Fight around fight for nothing even let nation Invasion ⚠️ They use all to pin down on each other instead do good things for the nation!? ✘Blaming all problems on others and China is part of the hustle…lack of integrity. And not right for All! 🌞Future wish people have eye see beauty have integrity vision and focus on positive thriving together✨
The Communist Party led by Mao led the Chinese people to drive away foreign imperialist forces. Based on this alone, the Chinese will not hate him, and the Chinese consider him one of the greatest figures in Chinese history.😁
He had those that believed in traditional values murdered, as well as most intellectuals. This set the stage for chinese poverty for years to come. Poverty still runs rampant in China with only the oligarchy benefitting from high GDP. If US corporations reshore to Vietnam and other locations, as they plan, China will lose what little power the do have; China has very little power
Churchill Might had to starve people to win the war. Mao started Cultural Revolution just to stay in power. In fact, Mao con the Chinese people to start off with just look at the name of People's Republic of China. A Republic was what was promised and through purging right wing political opponents, he turned himself into a dictator. Churchill if nothing else, was a patriot and did everything for his people. A fair acessment of Mao would be that he did everything for himself. KMT who Mao kicked out, managed a sucessful capitalistic democratic system in Taiwan and is an example of what China could had been without Mao. The only reason people in China don't hate him is because CCP does systematic revision of history and brain wash their children from very early age to follow CCP wholeheartedly . You can get people to neglect lots of stuff through brainwashing if you get them early along with a closed system as NK and CCP has proven.
Hundreds of millions of people died in British India due to man made famines, and the a55hole that you call Churchill served this evil empire. Stop worrying about the possibility that the Chinese people are brainwashed. Go examine your Britain brain, you will notice that it has been constantly focked by the Imperial c0ck.
2:30 and you say Mao's good outcome is Chinese Civil War? And that brings about the 2nd biggest GDP? That GDP didn't occur until Deng starts to open up. Nice attempt to draw simplistic parallel and equating to draw uncritical people.
@@livinlavidaluke So you do attempt to do this to attract people with a lack of critical thinking and fact-checking skills. Thanks for confirming that. Have a nice day living in your ivory tower while so many Chinese on the Chinese social media lamented about the poorer economy, higher unemployment, loss of bonuses and lower of salaries.
@@livinlavidaluke Did I say it's Mao's or Deng's fault? I merely responded to the fact you say "Yes I am" when I say "nice attempt to draw simplistic parallel and (do some superficial) equating to draw uncritical people". Damn son, you can't even reply like you're an actual person in front of your device. Has being in China too long even deteriorated your English comprehension? Anyways, Happy Chinese New Year and you probably should bring out Daniel Dumbrill or Cyrus Janssen to refute comments for you.
@@felisalpha1534 nice try manipulating what i said, i said “yes” to saying that winning the civil war was a good outcome for mao which EVERYONE i interviewed agreed, even the ones who said negative stuff Then you proceed to talk about the economy today which is totally unrelated and illogical as if you’re trying to say Mao caused that.
4:35 - 4:38 - HUH? Mao reformed? Seriously, Luke? I really think you're treating your socialist fans, and even we ethnic Chinese (I'm Malaysian with Mainland relatives, and don't lie to us - Many of older Malaysian and Singaporean Chinese do have relatives in the Mainland) as fools. You don't know Deng Xiaoping?
You are indeed a fool. We generally believe that the promoter of China's reform and opening up is Deng Xiaoping, but in fact, the international political background of China's reform and opening up is Nixon's visit to China and the establishment of diplomatic relations between China and the United States. Besides, even if the older uncle said something wrong, you don't have to be so mad.
The classic question method is to first ask if it is true, and then ask why. First of all, Chinese people do not hate Mao Zedong. In the turbulent era, Mao Zedong was able to discern the shortcomings of society, politics, economy, culture, etc. with a sharp and unique vision. Leading the masses of workers and peasants to overthrow the decadent old society. This cannot be erased by a few words of slander from you foreign hostile forces. Chinese society has problems of one kind or another, but this is a huge country with 1.4 billion people, and the Communist Party is the only The more qualified and capable the people of the country are to lead the people of the country towards a prosperous and powerful legal government. The more real Chinese respect history and understand history, the more they respect Mao Zedong. The export of Western ideologies has no market in China. Only fools will believe this. Set. To conquer the country, there is Mao Zedong Thought, and to defend the country, there is Deng Xiaoping Theory. China will no longer be humiliated and deceived, and the history of being invaded and oppressed is gone forever. If you doubt the authenticity of what I say, you are welcome to come in person Come visit this safest country in the world, walk around, see, and ask the people on the streets for yourself, who would accept any political party on the planet other than the Communist Party to lead the Chinese people? Qualified to hang a portrait on Tiananmen Square and replace Chairman Mao. 经典的提问方法, 先问是不是, 再问为什么. 首先. 中国人并不憎恨毛泽东. 毛泽东在动乱的年代, 就能够以犀利独到的眼光洞悉社会, 政治, 经济, 文化, 等各方面弊端, 带领工农群众推翻腐朽的旧社会. 这不是你们这些境外敌对势力三言两语的诋毁就能磨灭其功劳和贡献的. 中国社会有这样那样的问题, 但这是一个14亿民众的巨大国家, 共产党是唯一有资格有能力的政党, 能建立带领全国人民走向富强的合法政府, 真正的中国人越尊重历史, 越了解历史, 就越尊敬毛泽东. 西方的意识形态输出, 在中国早已没有市场了. 打江山有毛泽东思想, 守江山有邓小平理论. 中国不会再受到屈辱和欺骗, 被侵略被压榨的历史一去不复返. 如果你怀疑我所说的真实性, 那么欢迎你亲自到这个世界上最安全的国家来旅游,走一走, 看看, 亲口问一问街头的人们, 问问他们, 谁会接受这个星球上除了共产党以外的任一政党来领导中国人民, 又有谁有资格把画像挂在天安门上, 替换掉毛主席.
"Mao zedong give liberation and Deng xiaoping gave food" Mao Zedong's era was mainly about solving the problem of "The Chinese People Have Stood Up", and it was solved very well. The Korean War was the PRC's war of prestige. After this war, no country dared to invade China, and this was the "Peace dividend". In the past, there were always powerful countries that wanted to invade China; For example, the Eight-Nation Alliance, Japanese imperialism, and Tsarist Russia. Now no country dares to invade China. The Chinese People's Volunteers are very brave, they did so well in the Korean War. Later, some border conflicts occurred, such as the Sino-Indian border conflict and the Sino-Soviet border conflict. Mao Zedong solved the problem of "The Chinese People Have Stood Up " very well, and also solved the problem of "Two Bombs, One Satellite" and the initial complete industrial system, the basic industrial system of China was built by Mao Zedong. China first studied the Soviet Union and received 156 major projects from the Soviet Union, the largest transfer of intellectual property in the history of human, which immediately laid the foundation of China's industry. Mao Zedong opened the door to rapprochement with the United States in his later years. China invited Nixon to visit China in 1972 under the iron curtain of the Cold War, which pitted the United States and the Soviet Union against each other. Nixon's visit to China made possible a rapprochement between the United States and China, thus paving the way for China's subsequent "reform and opening up" to the West. When the PRC was established, it first learned from the Soviet Union. Then China and the Soviet Union fell out, China 360 ° reversal turned to the United States to learn. During the Cold War, if a socialist country engaged with the United States, the leader of the Western bloc, the politicians of that country had to take huge political risks. If he were not Mao Zedong, such a move would have been criticized from all sides within the CPC, and no one would have dared to make such a decision. Only Mao Zedong had the prestige to make such a decision without opposition from inside or outside the CPC. Mao was a great strategist who never rigidly or confined himself to the ideological battle between the Western Bloc and the Eastern Bloc of the Cold War, a dramatic shift in diplomatic strategy. What happened afterwards, as we now know, was that before the collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War, the Western Bloc invested a great deal of capital to win China as an "ally". China received the appropriate technical support from two different industrial systems, the United States and the Soviet Union, respectively, Now, even as China faces collective hostility from the Western Bloc, it can continue to grow in an environment that is decoupled from the outside world in a way that the United States cannot. This is because China is the only country in the world that has a complete industrial chain. In his later years, Mao Zedong approved the "4.3 Project", which brought in 26 projects with $4.3 billion in international financing. Eleven of these projects were chemical fibers, which solved the problem of clothing for Chinese people. These 11 projects are equivalent to 1 billion mu of cotton. Fifteen of these projects were chemical fertilizer projects, with which China's grain production began to increase. In this way, the problem of food and clothing for the Chinese people was basically solved. China's industrialization process: the first is to establish "industrial foundation" and "Two Bombs, One Satellite". With strong strength and means, other countries dare not invade China. The second step is to solve the problem of food and clothing, and the third step is to reform and open up with peace of mind. "Stand up" was the first stage, and Mao Zedong solved it very well. The 2 stage - "Become rich", implemented by Deng Xiaoping, Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao To be fair, the implementation of "Become rich" has been quite good, despite its flaws, such as the much-criticized over-capitalization. Now China's economy is the second largest in the world in terms of nominal GDP and the first in terms of real purchasing power parity GDP. The 3 stage - "Become strong", implemented by Xi Jinping In Xi Jinping's era, China has naturally reached the third stage of its development - "Become strong". Just like people have different mentality in different physiological periods, China has definitely changed in this stage. China will change dramatically in the era of Xi Jinping and his successors, both in terms of hard power and soft power. The defects left by the 2 stage will also be fixed.
