Fun fact??? The wanted a son thing is not even the bigger picture. Of course he wanted one, but he was more worried about his wife catherine's uncle, who was very close to the catholic church and would have rule England after Henry's death. I'm not justifying Henry cause, you know, he was horrible. But he found himself in front of two choices: get divorce of Catherine or leave his dinasty died with her family. He was to selfish to follow the second option.
@@Ana_Paula.Frasson It would've been completely fine if he divorced his sterile wife and stayed with Anne, or anyone else, until she'd given birth to that son he wanted. Anne Bolyn was fertile and she was loyal, until he chopped her head off. If he hadn't kept on decapitating and divorcing it was only a matter of time until a legitimate child was born male.
@@cassandrabelyeu2419. I always tooth that after he already get divorce of catherine, he just realize he was finally above everything (in his mind at least) so he just keep changing wives when he gets bothered of them. Sad, but let's be honest, it was pretty obvious he would do that. But I agree with you 100%.
yes you're right, something like that really happened in real life, I don't recall the source now but I'm sure a very similar scene was described in a letter to Elizabeth, even though in that case Anne was begging, while Henry was looking from a window
Alexander Ales's letter to Elizabeth claimed that it did happen on April 30th (a little early than what was showed in The Tudors), here an extract "Alas, I shall never forget the sorrow I felt when I saw the sainted Queen, your most religious mother, carrying you, still a baby, in her arms, and entreating the most serene King your father in Greenwich Palace, from the open window of which he was looking into the courtyard and she brought you to him. The faces and gestures of the speakers plainly showed the King was angry." (J. Denny, Anne Boleyn: A New Life Of England's Tragic Queen) As you can see it's not exactly the same scene but that part was surely based on this event
Elizabeth wasn’t at court around that time. nothing shows it. and even if she was henry wouldn't care, because he only looked at his children as an extention of himself. that's why he was so proud of his first son by bessie blount, because it was a proof that it wasn't his fault, it was katherine's.
Oh, I would have given anything to have had Henry VIII know that his despised daughter by Anne Boleyn, was a better monarch and ruled the country much better than her father, brother, sister, and most every monarch until George VI. She brought education, literature, and the arts to the forefront. Without Elizabeth I, we would have no Shakespeare or the modern day Church of England. She also defeated the Spanish Armada. I bet Henry would have been pea-green with envy.
FYI which is a well known fact written everywhere, all the achievements Elizabeth I had done where all the seeds Mary Tudor had planted but didnt live long enough to see her seeds grow and blossom. Elizabeth took all the credits from Mary. the only thing she stopped doing was Mary’s trials to stop protesnatism and her promotion to the Catholic Church. And Mary was left to be remembered with her Religious conquests. Not the literature arts etc. Sadly.
Elizabeth's life was a probably a living hell dealing with her own mother's execution, and the way she dealt with all the cruelty from Mary. She was a remarkable, fascinating woman.
DRW1107 Mary- bloody queen- lived hell too. She was rejected by her father and forcibly abandoned by her mother. Queen Catherine was dethroned in shame and sent back to Spain, ever since leaving GB Catherine was obliged to never again see her daughter. Henry never cared about her future, when he married Catherine Howard,princess Mary was forced to be one of her maid of honour and constantly made fun because she was still unmarried. Life had been hard on both Tudor's girls, Elizabeth may had been a great queen but no saint 😂 she wasn't the only suffering in that situation
Giulia Emmepi yes, they both went through hell but what makes Queen Elizabeth remarkable and more sympathy deserving is the fact that despite her hardships, she brought a golden age to England, unlike Mary who just brought herself the title of the Bloody Mary.
Elizabeth was a toddler when Anne was executed and she became a bastard, Mary on the other hand was the apple of Henry's eye for 17 years, until Anne came into the picture and ruined her life, her mother was cast aside, she was demoted from Princess to Lady, she was called a bastard, she was removed from the line of succession, she was also forbidden to see her mother, not even when Catherine was dying was she allowed to see her mother one last time, despite her hatred towards Anne, Mary actually cared for her little sister, Elizabeth, the relationship between the sibilings was actually pretty good (Mary, Elizabeth and Edward) despite having different mothers, it wasn't until Edward died and Mary became Queen that things got tense between Mary and Elizabeth, even though many snakes around her tried to persuade her to kill her sister Mary did not, so she still must have cared for her
Anne Boleyn was honestly very ahead of her time. I think she wanted to be seen as an equal to Henry and was headstrong enough to be vocal about it. I think if she had stayed quiet and just acted as a servant to the king as Henry wanted, she may have survived. Even if she didn't give birth to a son, she may have just been divorced. There's a really good documentary by Lucy Worsley about Henry's six wives that's really interesting and paints a different picture of them than I had originally thought of.
I think if she only was kimd of servant king wouldn't be attracted to her that much. I think her knowledge and sharing ideas with king made her special
If she had stayed quiet she would have simply been his mistress and that’s all and Elizabeth would of just been a bastard and cast aside probably would’ve never become Queen she may have never even existed who knows but Anne made history and her name will always be remembered in English history and so is her daughter. I like to think in a way Anne set motion for all the great female monarchs after Henry.
-''...The only thing Anne was ever guilty of was not having a son.'' They thew that same guilt at Queen Catherine too, in the end they both were tossed aside by a desperate and cruel man and all they wanted was to love him. Mary and Elizabeth both grew up without having their mothers around. One never got to say goodbye and the other one never got a chance to really know her.
It sucks that they never got closure with their moms, but it makes me somewhat happy that Jane was able to bring Mary back to court and try to be a good stepmom for her while Catherine Parr was able to unite the family and be a role model for Elizabeth.
No ur wrong, anne Boleyn forced Henry to divorce his first wife and she made him go against the pope ( his religion was catholic and catholic’s did not believe in divorce so she made him go against his religion) and all he asked for in return was a son that she promised she’ll give him
Elizabeth definitely was her mother's daughter! She had Anne's fire and tenacity. She was a brilliant and strong leader. This is the best video about Mother and Daughter I've seen in quite a while...👑❤🌷💯
How could she not honor her mother. Can you imagine losing the one person in your life whom truly loved you for you? How could She trust any man when she learned at a young age that those whom you love can kill you. I wonder even with Robert Dudley she even knew what love for one's self was like...
She trusted her sister quite a bit, they took England together. She was sexually abused by her stepmother's new husband, Thomas Seymour, and traumatized by her father though.
+hellokafkiana her sister possible just arrested her and was jealous because she is the daughter of her stepmother witch Henry divorced her mother to be with Anne Boleyn
hellokafkiana her sister didn't abuse her. You make it sound like Mary abused Elizabeth her whole life. It was until the end that Mary was thinking of signing Elizabeth's death warrant. You are forgetting that Henry and Anne Boleyn abused Mary. But ppl never say that about Anne just because she is a woman. Anne was an evil stepmother!
hellokafkiana and yes learning about Henry killing her mother affected her butt what historians say that really affected her was Thomas Seymour abusing her. That's what really affected her and that's what historians say affected her relationship with men.
Clearly the best monarchs in English history are women, Elisabeth I and Victoria. It sounds like the souls of all abused English queens and princesses through centuries get their revenge at the end.
@P.M. Huxteldepeth Americans never cared much for the monarchy. That didnt just start with MM, either. She cant help it. Its in her blood. Blame King George.
I understand why she never married she wanted to make sure she never would wind up in a situation that her mother did but it just goes to show you even way back then males still treated women like shit
Yeah, adultery is a sin but chopping someone's head off for it is just too much. Anyway, I didn't mention that male nobles could have many mistresses at that time.
Personally, I believe accusing Anne of infidelity was Henry's way of getting rid of her so he could have another woman. By far out of all his relationships, Henry always has been the unfaithful, cheating scum who abused his power. His wives were his victims.
@@anhlengocvan5049 I thought it was absurd that a king is looked over and allowed to have Mistresses but if a woman did it she loses her head that's not the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what it is
Jokes on Henry that she became the monarch he always wanted to be. Anne had the last laugh. If this was a true sequel to the tudors, shes a splitting image of Jonathan Rhys meyers Henry VIII here
Henry went against the pope of the Catholic Church just to marry Anne Boleyn he divorced his first wife for her Anne Boleyn forced him do it and all he asked for in return was a son that she promised him to give and I would be mad too if she didn’t
@@Maya-tx9yo you can't really promise a baby's gender lol. Also having one girl from her doesn't mean she can't birth more and the possibility of them being a boy. He sabotaged his own relationships.
Beautiful video, thank you. Anne was my favorite wife of Henry's, and their daughter went on to be one of the greatest and most noble monarchs of all time. If Henry could only see he never needed a son.
If Henry could see never needed a son, then Elizabeth wouldn't never have been born. He would have remained married to Catherine of Aragon and Mary would have been heir. Anne Boleyn probably would have been married off to someone else. After Catherine died, Henry probably would have just married another princess and maybe had sons with her. Or married Jane Seymour like he actually did. Who knows?
@P.M. Huxteldepeth Catherine's daughter was just as abused as elizabeth. Henry never loved any of his wives not even Anne. He selected Jane to be buried next to because she bore the son.
@CLUB BRENDAN Henry legitimized his first "illegitimate" son by Elizabeth Blount, conferring upon him the title of Richmond at the age of three years, who became one of Elizabeth's closest and longest-serving personal advisers.
It's a mixture of The Tudors, and Reign...The Tudors is waaaaaaaaay better than Reign, in acting and costumes, and believability, and I did I mention ACTING!!!
I agree for the acting even though I think Adelaid is a great actress too, but not for the costumes. In both series they were beautiful, but I prefer the aesthetic of Reign. Okay it's not really what they were wearing at the time, but they modernized the clothes in a beautiful manner, and added their personal touch of creation to their serie. Otherwise to comment the video, it's a good idea to do this mixture, I mean, sure those series are different from one another in terms of style, but in terms of history I can understand why you would want to reunite them both !
lelem35 Honestly most of season 1 of the Tudors is trash, entertaining trash I admit, and did not take its self too srsly. Season 2 and on was much better in quality, more accurate costumes, historically accurate, and Natalie got to play Anne how she wanted.
I humbly disagree. Season 1, 2 and 3 of 'The Tudors,' debuted some of the most heart-wrenching, awe-inspiring and passionately performed scenes to date. In fact, the acting on 'The Tudors,' was on some next level shit. In terms of the performances delivered by actors such as Natalie Dormer (Anne Boleyn), Maria Doyle Kennedy (Queen Catherine), James Frain (Thomas Cromwell), Sam Neill (Cardinal Wolsey), etc...comparing the performances delivered by these actors to what was produced on 'Reign' is like comparing Denzel Washington in 'Glory,' to Mark Whalberg in 'The Happening.' The level of pathos delivered by the aforementioned actors, was simply absent in the 'Reign.' Anyway...going back to this video, I think the tribute to Elizabeth and Ann Boleyn was deeply touching.
The chemistry between Natalie Dormer and Jonathon Rhys Meyers was electric! I’ve rarely seen anything like it on television. I wonder if they’ve remained friends over the years.
The show reign trys so hard to make us love Mary in reign and I like her but I was always a fan of anne boleyn from the tudors so I have a soft spot for Elizabeth
Kind of nice to know that she won this crazy game in the end by bearing a great ruler and her reputation is now restored to a more favorable look in the eyes of history today.
Oh well, Henrys loss, I still belive Catherine of Aragon was his one true wife but if you are going to marry another! Dont kill them henry! If you stopped, Katheryn Howard would've lived longer. Poor Catherine Howard. I hope you pay for this. Just like all the songs of the wives talking to you when they're dead. It will become a reality. On the day of judgement. R.I.P Catherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn, Jane Seymour, Anne of Cleves, Katheryn Howard and Katherine Parr. You will be missed.
yes! finally someone who agrees that catherine of aragon was his true wife. she was also the best out of his wives. love her sm. i love the other wives too 😭💖
the BEST video about Anne Boleyn and Elizabeth! I watch this EVERYDAY.. (bc I'm a big fan of The Tudors and Reign, especially history itself) but it's so touching. This is a perfect visual of the relationship between Anne, Henry and Elizabeth explained in a video. Hats off to you.
We have no idea what Anne's mother looked like, so there is no way to know how much or little they resembled each other. However, Elizabeth did have the coloring of Henry's mother, Elizabeth of York, whose general appearance is known. Facially Elizabeth appeared to resemble both her grandfather Henry VII and the Howard side of her family.
Ann Etheridge this is her www.google.nl/search?q=elizabeth+howard&prmd=isnv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjHh_fWp7HRAhWDVxoKHY03DRAQ_AUIBygB&biw=360&bih=512&dpr=2#imgrc=0reR-NSQle0DMM%3A
Elizabeth looked like her grandmother Elizabeth Boleyn. Her colouring though was that of her father Henry as was her red/gold hair. She also had her father's famous temper
susan webber indeed. but it can also be because of Anne Boleyns dark hair, and henry's lighter hair, that Elizabeth is a redhead. You need 4 genes instead of 2 to get red hair, and somehow, the combination of blonde and really dark hair have the highest chance to get those 4 genes.
I honestly hate Reign with a burning passion, but I genuinely can't deny how gorgeously put together this is and how much it made me cry. I love Anne and Elizabeth so much, thank you for making this
I always wondered if her and Mary ever talked about the fact that Anne and Henry celebrated when Catherine died... I feel like Mary deeply resented Henry as she should for her mother’s death.
You know this is a good video when I can see past my detestation of Reign's costume design to enjoy the video. Especially when I can't even get through the show itself because they're so bad. So, well done! (Seriously, though, what were they thinking?? The costumes are horrific.)
I admire Anne she was passionate about her daughter loved her so much. And fought for what was right. Very educated woman. To think that she brought Shakespeare and the church for protestant religion to.
This video makes me pretty sad about my relationship with my mum. We fight, quite a lot, not as bad as we used to thankfully, but still pretty bad. I'm glad that Elizabeth had a loving mother, even if for a short time.
Natalie is the definitive Anne Boelyn- Not sure who is the definitive Elizabeth- while I like Rachel- Im still unsure at times- I mean Cate was amazing too
Brilliant video. I've recently watched a bit of The Tudors and Reign, and generally I am interested in history, so I really appreciate your video.By the way it's a paradox that Henry had six wives, every one of them was supposed to be some kind of a broodmare to bear him his desired sons, and in the end there were his two daughters to rule and contribute to the greatness of England anyway. What so is more, his dynasty suffered extinction, after him being husband to six different women! Just think about it, after all the troubles - breaking off the ties with Catholic Church, condinct the reformation brutally, ruining the relations with the emperor, divorcing two wives, and bathing in blood another two, having only one sickly son (I don't count the bastard son, Henry) who reigned just for few years to be succeeded by his half-sisters. That's insane. If Henry only had known then...
I saw these both shows and it hurts my heart so much thinking about what people went through during that time. We are still far from real humanity but still Thanks to God we are not living in royal times.
While I am a big fan of Reign- my inner historian only lets me give it a 2.5 out of five for historical accuracy- the season 4 picked up on Marys life and I give it props for that- The Tudors holds a special place in my heart- first real royal drama show! JRM- gives the definitive portrayal of Henry VIII for me!
In our modern times, these old lovestories from the middle age, it is a bit difficult to imagine the pure beautiful romance, and the glowing passion, our beautiful actor's perform's today in the movies. King Henry was not a hot guy acording to painting's, neither was Anne, and because of the bad hygiene and body-fragrance, I dont find the hot passion, as it is painted today. Henry was after his accident very fat and had a bad smell from a wounded leg the rest of his life, it must have bin terrible to jump in his bed. Elizabeth ruled many years spite her mother's destiny, but she was no angel in her reign. Anne Boleyn became a victim during times, but she took great benefit from the kings lust for her, and the power the king gave her, had a high price for the churches in England, sorry, but I can't find any purity at the English court.....
In his youth, when he was in the first decade of his marriage to Katherine of Aragon, Henry was epitome of hot. He was exceptionally tall, muscular, handsome, intelligent, and athletic. By the time he harried Anne Boleyn, he was middle aged, but still athletic and handsome. It was after the accident in early 1536 that Henry's mind and appearance began to radically alter. I believe the best evidence for why he turned on Anne Boleyn to come from the results of the head injury he suffered. The leg injury never healed, became a suppurating ulcer that kept him from the sport he loved, and his weight began to increase. After Jane Seymour, it is really unlikely that Henry engaged in much, if any intercourse, with any of his wives.
Henry VIII got his leg ulcer in a fall from his horse in 1528. He began to turn on Anne months before his jousting accident but was content enough to wait and see if the child she was having would be a boy. Unfortunately the news of Henry's accident frightened Anne so much she miscarried the child that was indeed a male foetus. It was Cromwell in fact who used Henry's disappointment and personality change caused by the jousting accident to turn Henry completely against Anne, the reason being a major argument between Cromwell and Anne about the use of the revenue from the dissolution of the Monasteries
Henry was known to be very good looking! The paintings is the portrayals of him when he made an accident and gained so much weight and the smell came from the wounded leg from that accident. As for the bad smell, EVERYONE back in that time smell bad according to our standards if everyone was smelly perhaps the really dirty ones at that time were called the smelly ones not the normal smelly ones if that makes sense. And if u jump into couples of centuries after such as the 18th c they view the 16th c people‘s hygiene was really bad, and us in the 21st c we view the 18th are very smelly with bad hygiene ! Hence in the 18th century people rarely shower but at that time it was viewed fine and normal. Do u get the idea? So we’re in no place to judge their hygienes or how the smelled because those people in everyway arent the same as we are.
Ahhh... there it is...the obligatory, "Henry VIII was fat and bloated and smelled bad...." post. Amazing how that's all people seem to know about the man.
Poor Anna. She genuinely loved Henry. Henry should have had mercy on Elizabeth because she was just an innocent child. She was denied spending Elizabeth's growing up period.😳💔
Henry VIII would've been surprised (and proud, hopefully) to see how well Elizabeth succeeded as Queen, but he would've been disappointed that she had no children of her own and the direct Tudor line would die with her. Queen Elizabeth II is descended from the Tudors through Henry's sisters, Margaret (through the Stuarts/Hanovers) and Mary (through the late Queen Mother). I read recently that Diana was also descended from Princess Mary Tudor (not Bloody Mary). If true then Prince William and his children have a bit more Tudor blood.
People are arguing whether Mary or Elizabeth suffers more when I'm here just glad I was born in this era cause the past doesn't seem so... welcoming :/
There is a general thought that Elizabeth never mentioned her mother to anyone but one got to wonder what she may have thought of her. Did she miss her, feel angry at her or at her father for what he did? Did she ever think about giving her mother a more worthy grave? Did she ever shed a tear for her when no one was looking? Was it Anne's memory who kept her so determinded to become the Elizabeth we all know and remember? We will never know but what I am sure of, is that Anne would be damn proud of Elizabeth for proving Henry, in every aspect of her reign, wrong.
