How is this guy even worth a debate when he doesn’t even know what bible is and what Quran actually talks about. I am amazed that he started his debate with this silly argument
I agree Dr. Sayyed repeated the same argument over and over and it doesn't stick. He says the Bible is not mentioned in the Qur'an well if he engaged the Greek like Pastor Green engaged the Arabic he would know all Bible means is books. The Bible is a corpus of all these books.
Poor Dr Shuaib was out classed and out debated. Went off on irrelevant topics and trying to his best to distract Samuel Green with red herrings. Alas Samuel stayed unshaken and delivered a blow with this closing argument.
If you Christians believe that the Holy Quran teaches us Muslims to accept the Gospels in the Christian Bible, than you couldn't be more WRONG. The Holy Quran in ONE verse REBUKES the entire Christian faith as a LIE-FABRICATION (Holy Quran 4:157).
@@patrickfisher2817 there is NO historic fact beside of Christian inventions. Even the Gospel of (Mark 16:11) Mary Magdalene tells you Jesus was NOT resurrected from the dead. Jesus survived the cross, he was found ALIVE, that is according to the eye witness Magdalene (Mark 16:11).
@@smk1189 the same chapter Mark 16:9 claims Jesus rose. When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons. Mark 16:9 NIV Jesus being found alive proves that he rose from the dead not that he survived the crucifixion. Mark 15:37 says Jesus breathed his last. Meaning he died on the cross. Your arguments are horrible
Beat? First of all, generally regarding any topic: If someone looses a debate may they be Christian, Muslim, Jew...etc, this does not automatically reflect on the whole religion one represents since one individual does not simply speak for everyone else. I am amazed that something so simply can't be comprehend by your folks. Secondly, i am not sure if you are the real Bob from the park or a fanboy, but frankly, Islam is never beat. The moment you people started to lie against Islam ( frankly, we have documented lies against Islam even by the Quraysh at the beginning of Islam), you already lost. No one needs to lie unless they have no other options.
Can any Muslim point out the evidence of their speaker, to support the assertion, that Christians at the time of Mo, in Arabia, were unitarians... as he claims... don't you guys get embarrassed by your speakers just making wild assertions...
No since the Quran confirms the trinity and the Christians in Arabia practicing it. So as i said, a speaker does not represent Islam. I think every single one of them needs proper education and so do you.
I think the conclusion sums it up. Dr Sayyed was completely absorbed with the word Bible and insulting things in the Bible that he could not engage with anything Pastor Green said. Pastor Green engaged the marks and went deeper he was not stuck in one argument. Pastor Green successfully defends that the Qur'an states the the Scriptures of the Hebrews and Christians are supported. The nonsense argument that these scriptures have been changed must be dismissed and is not even coherent in Islamic theology. The fear of accepting these text wholesale is that the veracity of the Islamic position could be challenged as these texts contradict the Qur'an. Next I'd like to discuss the adhominems Dr. Sayyed presented. Any logical attack he lodges against the Hallaqah in a negative way such as magic and what he deems as amoral exist within the Sharia. I will be charitable and not say he is being willfully dishonest. As you see when Pastor Green engages these arguments he simply ignores them and repeats his rhetoric like that in some way saying it for the 10000000 is persuasive sorry Sahib its not! Pastor Green makes an amzing closing argument and makes a better representation for Islam than Dr. Sayyed. He recognizes all the scriptures Dr. Sayyed is trapped with Torah and Injeel. I feel Pastor Green should have shown how Injeel is actually Evangelion totally wiping out Dr. Sayyed's flimsy argument. Also Torah can refer to the whole corpus of Tanakh. Muslims need to actually study these texts before they dismiss them. Also they need to be aware of their texts which we can see that there is either ignorance or dishonesty with the moralistic arguments made against these Hebrew/Jewish scriptures!
@@smk1189 They are different narratives it doesn't have to be explained. Also it makes sense the scripture states that it appeared he was crucified. So people thought he was crucified so why wouldn't people believe it anyway with the context of the text.
@@issakabeer1535 For Christians to say we Muslim must accept the Gospels in your Bible, because the Holy Quran supposedly mention the Gospels, than the question is how do you EXPLAIN (Quran 4:157). In just one verse the Holy Quran REBUKES the entire Christian faith as a LIE.
@@issakabeer1535 LOL . . .It engages the Gospels are based on conjecture from the Quranic understanding. . . .The Holy Quran in ONE VERSE (Quran 4:157) REJECTS the ENTIRE Christian faith as a LIE.
Who is this 'numpty' calling a liar, what a wild and crazy accusation - this guy is a joke, Sam don't debate him again, its not good for you to debate too many plebs.
Thank you Mr Green. You have enlightened me and revealed again that the bible is the word of God in an profound and intellectual way. Its amazing that muslim people can qoute the scriptures out of context and be so hypercritical
The Holy Quran NEVER acknowledges the Gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. The Holy Quran ONLY recognizes the "Gospel of Jesus" which does NOT EXIST in the Christian Bible. We as Muslims CANNOT accept the Gospels of the Christian Bible. WHY? Because it portrays Jesus as a LIAR. What do I mean? We read in (Luke 24:46) Jesus supposedly said "its WRITTEN the Messiah dies and rises after three days". . . .This is absolute LIE-FALSE. There is NO such passage in the Jewish Scriptures which says the "Messiah dies and rises AFTER three days". We as Muslims believe the Bible has been changed ALTERED, but NOT 100%. There is truth and falsehood in the Bible.
This was an amazing video. Samuel Green used facts to demolish his Opponent's arguments. Yes, the Quran confirms the Torah and the Injeel which is the current Bible we have at the time and the Bible that was available before the time of Muhammad. Quran 5:47 says, "So let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed in it. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the rebellious". We have complete Bible manuscripts from the 4th century 300+ years before Muhammad became a prophet.
@Muhamed Abba yes, the Quran is talking about the Bible that Christians and Jews had in the 7th century, this is the exact same Bible that we had in the 4th century 300+ years before Muhammad became a prophet.
@@williamjames4031 Quran talks about injeel and Torah. And challenges you to bring them forward. It states great you corrupted them. They no longer exist. You can believe your bible. It’s a reflection of your intellect. You can’t lie about the Quran, especially given how little you know about it.
@@feras7027 Nope, the Quran was talking to the Christians at the time. We have complete Bibles from the 4th century. 300+ years before Muhammad became a prophet.
@@feras7027 Pastor Samuel Green destroyed Dr.Shuyib in the debate. The Dr could not find any references from the Quran. You too show me from the Quran where it says that the injeel is corrupt.
Pastor Samuel Green can you debate or make a presentation explaining that the Early Church Fathers believed in the Trinity and the co-equality of the Father and The Son pre-council of Nicea.
@@sz5811 I can easily provide that to you but I want to see Pastor Samuel Green debating with a muslim especially Adnan Rashid or any other Muslim Apologists.
@@shamounian Brother, thanks alot. But I would have love to see Pastor Samuel Green debate with a Muslim Apologists specifically about that issue. Adnan Rashid and Mohammad Hijab keep on saying no early church fathers believed that The Son and the holy Spirit were co-equal with the father.
No. Please check the dates and you will see that I posted my debate weeks before Paul posted his article. But what does it matter? I hope to write an article for Paul's site in the next few weeks God willing.
@@SamuelGreen-AU - Hi I'm a muslim and I agree with what you said regarding the quran's views of the Bible but I don't think the holy scriptures say that jesus is god nor that god is triune and I don't think you have to be a muslim to believe that why not be a unitarian christian (biblical) and still think islam is false
@@theguyver4934 Thank you for your comment. You have raised some good questions but I cannot answer them here. Maybe you would like to read by booklets on these subjects? engagingwithislam.org/leaflets/Is_Jesus_God.pdf engagingwithislam.org/leaflets/Trinity.pdf
@@ilj3168 Your entitled to your opinion. But my point is if you Christians believe that the Holy Quran teaches us Muslims to accept the Gospels in the Christian Bible, than you couldn't be more WRONG. The Holy Quran in ONE verse REBUKES the entire Christian faith as a LIE (Holy Quran 4:157).
@@smk1189 lol, your just proved Quran contradicts , by first comfirming Allah's previous revelation and none can change Allah's words and then rejecting his own revelation, lol 😆
@@ilj3168 None can change Allah's word which is speaking about the Holy Quran ONLY, and NOT to the pervious Scriptures. . . .Once again my point is the Holy Quran is NOT speaking about the Gospels of the Christian Bible for us Muslim to ACCEPT. Because in one (Holy Quran 4:157) Allah destroys the ENTIRE Christian faith.
