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What Exactly Happened On SpaceX's Fourth Starship Launch Attempt? 

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Early this morning SpaceX launched Starship for the fourth time and it was easily the most impressive one yet. The last flight was back in March earlier this year and ended a bit early with both the booster and upper stage being destroyed.
This time around, however, the company made a few key changes and upgrades to the entire vehicle and mission plan that helped Starship reach a couple of significant new milestones. Here I will go more in-depth into the fourth flight, exactly what happened, what to expect in the near future, and more.
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0:00 - Intro
0:28 - Fourth Launch Attempt

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@spitfire155k2
@spitfire155k2 24 дня назад
I thought for sure when we began seeing the flap disintegrate that we were going to lose the ship entirely! Some engineers need to be patted on the shoulder!
@Round_Slinger
@Round_Slinger 24 дня назад
Yep. I'm surprised that the onboard computers could compensate for that. Impressive.
@SupremeRuleroftheWorld
@SupremeRuleroftheWorld 24 дня назад
it is extremely likely that was not the only flap that got destroyed.
@tmcb_
@tmcb_ 24 дня назад
Thought the same!
@varietyegg
@varietyegg 24 дня назад
​@@SupremeRuleroftheWorldI think that a heat shield got yeeted on that flap
@MalrusOSC
@MalrusOSC 24 дня назад
This also demonstrates the capability that Starship has during re-entry, and how it’s still (technically) capable of re-entering the atmosphere with quarter of a flap gone. Really good considering how in the future this shouldn’t happen!
@TJY-mb5hk
@TJY-mb5hk 24 дня назад
Excellent summation. Thank you.
@davidsoom1551
@davidsoom1551 24 дня назад
True summation..............If there were astronauts aboard they would have died. Some might call that a failure of a proposed man rated ship that is supposed to land us on the moon in 2 yrrs and cost us billions in taxpayer dollars.
@Syclone0044
@Syclone0044 24 дня назад
@@davidsoom1551Correction: zero taxpayer dollars. And this was a prototype test flight, so nobody would man such a flight
@Bamdd5
@Bamdd5 24 дня назад
I think this flight would best be described as “scrappy”, the booster and ship both had issues and despite the issues both successfully completed their missions. Pretty crazy
@alexlabs4858
@alexlabs4858 24 дня назад
Well it shows that the redundant systems do work. They had issues with engines but it looks like everything still did it’s job for that portion of the flight. Good data to have. I would say the reentry data they got though was the most valuable.
@correa12carlos
@correa12carlos 24 дня назад
It is pretty amzing to see, that even not all the system did not work 100%, it still landed as planned.
@qwerty112311
@qwerty112311 24 дня назад
@@correa12carlosstarship hit the sea at 2km/h any passengers would have probably died ReeeeeeeEEeeEeeeeeeee
@thomabow8949
@thomabow8949 24 дня назад
@@qwerty112311 2 km/h is 1.8 feet per second. You sit on your bed at night faster than that lol
@MalrusOSC
@MalrusOSC 23 дня назад
Yeah, it wasn’t a “failure”, but it also didn’t succeed with flying colours.
@rikkafe6050
@rikkafe6050 24 дня назад
Excellent concise commentary.
@zanpsimer7685
@zanpsimer7685 24 дня назад
That melting flap held on like a hero from old stories.
@wilsonalwaris
@wilsonalwaris 24 дня назад
Not word or second wasted. Very nicely summarised. Exactly what I was looking for thank you 😊
@Syclone0044
@Syclone0044 24 дня назад
That’s a great way to sum up this channel tbh
@LeftOverMacNCheese
@LeftOverMacNCheese 24 дня назад
We demand an apology to peoples saying using stainless steel for rocket is stupid.
@theguyfromsaturn
@theguyfromsaturn 24 дня назад
Indeed. The survival of the flap is certainly a vindication. It helps cover "what if" scenarios that will happen when under constant load. Look at the shuttle, the heat shield was great, worked as advertized. However, it had 2 occasions where tiles fell where it was better they didn't. The first time, they were lucky it was under a steal mounting point, and the vehicle survived. The second time, lead to the loss of Columbia. You have to have a good heat shield, but having a structural material that can survive otherwise lets you weather the "what if" moments.
@snakevenom4954
@snakevenom4954 24 дня назад
The people who believed carbon fiber or carbon composite was a better option just don't understand that neither of them can take high temperatures. If Starship was made of aluminum, forgetting that the flap would've been ripped off, it would've kept melting through even after the plasma went away. Same with the carbon fiber or composite being ruined by the heat. Steel is a fantastic choice for a rocket. You actually save weight since you don't need walls for a tank. Just the separator. And it's easier to work with. Just all around a better material than the alternatives.
@shanent5793
@shanent5793 24 дня назад
Why should we apologize when they were clearly wrong?
@konkam744
@konkam744 24 дня назад
@@shanent5793 it says we *_demand_* an apology which means that they need to apologize
@tvre0
@tvre0 24 дня назад
it still is extremely heavy.
@svenp6504
@svenp6504 24 дня назад
They've got to retrieve that ship. What a piece of history!
@TheEvilmooseofdoom
@TheEvilmooseofdoom 24 дня назад
It's not as easy as you think.
@LaughingOrange
@LaughingOrange 24 дня назад
The plan was always to sink it. Either by detonating the flight termination system, or by shooting it with a gun. It's probably at the bottom of the ocean by now.
@timconneely5770
@timconneely5770 23 дня назад
So much data too, would be a development treasure trove if they could find it
@norrisbonson3795
@norrisbonson3795 24 дня назад
That entire flight was pretty badass
@colourist.
@colourist. 24 дня назад
the most based flap in space flight history!
@salty_berserker_channel
@salty_berserker_channel 24 дня назад
based! 😎
@dx-ek4vr
@dx-ek4vr 24 дня назад
If that flap was a person, it would be the person that did all the work on a group project
@riparianlife97701
@riparianlife97701 24 дня назад
#zombieflap
@leonvolq6179
@leonvolq6179 24 дня назад
The other flaps saying to the teacher: I also help on the presentation teacher!
@randgrithr7387
@randgrithr7387 24 дня назад
Based? Based on what?!
@uCruz_
@uCruz_ 24 дня назад
Bro, that flap fought until the end, holy shit, usually this extent of damage in any spacecraft would be the end of it, but just shows how resiliant Starship is, probably down to the material it's made, and it's construction, just show that even in the worse situation, it's still possible to get it to land.
@kjetilknyttnev3702
@kjetilknyttnev3702 24 дня назад
The most important takeback from this is that there IS actually some leeway for error in the window of success. In a way this launch made me more confident than a complete success with no problems whatsoever.
@alexlabs4858
@alexlabs4858 24 дня назад
How are you getting these videos out so quickly! Awesome job. Underrated channel.
@Grayando1
@Grayando1 24 дня назад
Just a jaw dropping event all round..... Something i will remember all my life just as the falcon heavy launch..... We will sail throughout the Cosmos.... ,o7
@craigmillan6044
@craigmillan6044 24 дня назад
The best, most detailed and concise summary of this launch. Well done
@liveslugreaction729
@liveslugreaction729 24 дня назад
Excitement happened
@fedorbutochnikow5312
@fedorbutochnikow5312 24 дня назад
Very good summary, thank for doing this.
@Syclone0044
@Syclone0044 24 дня назад
This was extremely thrilling to watch live!!
@TheRussianFloofCat
@TheRussianFloofCat 24 дня назад
Was able to watch the launch live through the stream. Hats off to the engineers and controllers at SpaceX
@mustang607
@mustang607 24 дня назад
Not having to file another mishap report with the FAA would be a great accomplishment.
@lanzer22
@lanzer22 24 дня назад
Many would say that this is their first successful test flight, but I would argue that any test flight where new information was gathered and faced incremental improvements over previous test flights were already successful. Unlike the Falcon 1 test flight, the success parameter is very different for Starship. Either way, it's funny that it took the 4th try for Starship's to complete all the objectives. Just like Falcon 1.
@schrodingerscat1863
@schrodingerscat1863 24 дня назад
First time all mission objectives met, this is a major milestone in the Starship program, now comes the long task of analysing all the data and making necessary changes to make sure the flaps stay in one piece. The booster had a pretty much flawless flight, hope it stuck the landing because if it did they may actually try to catch it next flight.
@michaeldeierhoi4096
@michaeldeierhoi4096 24 дня назад
They aren't likely to catch the booster until the second tower is finished because if a mishap happens then they have no launch tower for future flights.
@schrodingerscat1863
@schrodingerscat1863 24 дня назад
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 Indeed, personally I think they will do at least another couple of flights with controlled splashdown until they attempt a catch. When all the engines are relighting reliably and they are confident that they can bring it in within the catch window then they will try a catch.
@ClappOnUpp
@ClappOnUpp 24 дня назад
Well done highlight video 🙏
@baptistemain13
@baptistemain13 24 дня назад
Lol 2:46 I knew it was the HSR 😂😂! Great videos as usual.
@mobayguy
@mobayguy 21 день назад
Excellent video - You guys consistently do a great job
@wxb200
@wxb200 24 дня назад
That was beyond awesome!
@tmcb_
@tmcb_ 24 дня назад
Excellent summary!
@trueluscao
@trueluscao 24 дня назад
i'm ashamed of myself for forgetting about this, i will try my best to follow this program again.
@jichaelmorgan3796
@jichaelmorgan3796 24 дня назад
Same. Really is something the news should be covering more though
@ARWest-bp4yb
@ARWest-bp4yb 24 дня назад
What an amazing success, can't wait for ITF 5!🚀🚀👍👍
@tomdarco2223
@tomdarco2223 21 день назад
Right On Great Video
@lanzer22
@lanzer22 24 дня назад
Such a nail biter test flight. I actually clapped when Starship finally made it to land. Excitement guaranteed!
@marks7502
@marks7502 23 дня назад
thanks for the news
@TheDisgruntledImperial
@TheDisgruntledImperial 24 дня назад
Who's ready for some goalposts to be moved?!
@artembolshakov3901
@artembolshakov3901 24 дня назад
Huh? They were honest about goalposts from the start. SpaceX has a "hardware heavy" development process: they don't wait to design the perfect system, they build things then go see what happens
@amateuryoutuber
@amateuryoutuber 24 дня назад
​@@artembolshakov3901I think they meant the Elon haters
@TheDisgruntledImperial
@TheDisgruntledImperial 24 дня назад
@@artembolshakov3901 I meant the skeptics.
@PaulSpades
@PaulSpades 24 дня назад
I'm still not convinced starship has the promised lifting capability. And what happened to the payload door and fuel transfer tests this time around? Anyway, it looks like a successful (controlled) flight this time around, as opposed to last time.
@goldenpacificmedia
@goldenpacificmedia 24 дня назад
Great work! Congrats on your speedy video and analysis/discussion. The TPS along the leading edges is really tough to design for reusability. But, the vehicle is an excellent test bed and will, undoubtedly, give engineers better opportunities to prefect these designs.
@sheryltimm9397
@sheryltimm9397 24 дня назад
Man, those must have been some crispy fish when ship and super heavy touched down
@okirooju3787
@okirooju3787 23 дня назад
I reckon all fish in that vicinity would have checked out long before touching the water due to heat and vibrations over the water from landing burn.
@notyouraveragegoldenpotato
@notyouraveragegoldenpotato 24 дня назад
It launched, magnificently
@riparianlife97701
@riparianlife97701 24 дня назад
This starship would make a great museum piece.
@JoeGator23
@JoeGator23 24 дня назад
Space age diner... Jetson's themed.
@fabiofboful
@fabiofboful 24 дня назад
SpaceX should retrieve both Starship and Super Heavy Booster from the sea and put them in a display!
@danielnogrady9004
@danielnogrady9004 24 дня назад
To cool!
@Scaliad
@Scaliad 18 дней назад
It was glorious!🎉
@k.c.sunshine1934
@k.c.sunshine1934 24 дня назад
I love those "quick fixes" by Elon - by jettison the stage ring we got to see this amazing Starship progress! Keep the magic going!
@filonin2
@filonin2 24 дня назад
Elon is not personally engineering the vehicle.
@k.c.sunshine1934
@k.c.sunshine1934 24 дня назад
@@filonin2 okay, understood. Did you get the gist of what I am attempting to communicate. When *someone* *is* *a* *leader,* *they* *represent* *the* *successes* *and* *the* *failures* *of* *the* *entire* *organization,* even though it would be impossible for one person to do. Maybe you could be constructive and suggest a better, more accurate way of representing my sentiment?
@hermeticxhaote4723
@hermeticxhaote4723 23 дня назад
​@@k.c.sunshine1934I don't like leaders that liked nazi tweets
@donaldtrammel2475
@donaldtrammel2475 24 дня назад
What a beast!
@i-love-space390
@i-love-space390 24 дня назад
Wow. SpaceX's choice of high temperature Stainless Steel was inspired. I had a feeling that even if tiles came off, it would hold up pretty well. I just didn't think it would hold up *this* well. Amazing resilience. But those old 1970s Shuttle engineers are probably laughing at those naive SpaceX engineers on how they were going to reinvent heat shield tile tech. It took Rockwell several years to get the shuttle tiles flightworthy, and they still continued to come off throughout the program.
@locutusofzork4630
@locutusofzork4630 22 дня назад
Just imagine, 20 years ago seeing something like this fall from the sky would have us thinking it was alien technology. Now, we're able to do it ourselves.
@stevenglasgow6101
@stevenglasgow6101 24 дня назад
Well done everyone in Space X
@JohnVance
@JohnVance 24 дня назад
That was nuts to watch
@shockers12512
@shockers12512 24 дня назад
I wanna see start ship after its landed what it looks like and how the sacecraft held up
@Sam_Saraguy
@Sam_Saraguy 24 дня назад
Yes, for sure. I hope SpaceX is able to examine the ship wreckage before it sinks.
@audriusg1536
@audriusg1536 24 дня назад
Any info if someone filmed splashdown somehow?
@davidstevenson9517
@davidstevenson9517 24 дня назад
You're an optimist!
@lvlndco
@lvlndco 24 дня назад
At 1:42 there is an electrical discharge off the grid fin. Didn't notice that during the live stream.
@thatguy2201
@thatguy2201 23 дня назад
You gotta ask yourself, why did the plasma eat the flap? Is anybody asking that question or just saying, "great success".
@shamanbhattacharyya9285
@shamanbhattacharyya9285 23 дня назад
I guess, IFT5 will probably look at fixing the problems with the engines and the flap, (hopefully they attempt to catch the super heavy with the chopsticks)
@Pie-qs4yg
@Pie-qs4yg 23 дня назад
Was there any video of the booster or starship coming down?
@0topon
@0topon 21 день назад
yes see his most recent video
@davidstevenson9517
@davidstevenson9517 24 дня назад
Unlike the previous, this Starship test-flight WAS a success. Well done. That the stabilizer fin, despite having an atmospheric blow-torch cutting into it, held on to complete the mission, is impressive. Reminds me of those B-17 Flying Fortresses over Germany during WWII: they got the crap shot out of them but many aicraft kept flying, fulfilling their mission and returning crews to base.
@cheesedoodlefeeder
@cheesedoodlefeeder 22 дня назад
The more I think about it, the more I believe that these fins or flaps are problematic. The Starliner was in re-entry in the right attitude, so adding tiles on the bottom where the plasma directly impacts the Starliner doesn't seem like it will solve the issue. The plume of plasma will still flow around and be able to destroy the flaps. The flaps need to be covered with tiles or ablative, but how would that work when they need to remain moveable and must have a flexible joint? So maybe ditch the flaps and go to thrusters that can be vectored?
@RaysHobbies
@RaysHobbies 24 дня назад
Save Flappy
@kentstansberry9748
@kentstansberry9748 24 дня назад
Yikes, that was a seat grabber. KUDOS.
@laz7354
@laz7354 24 дня назад
Correct assessment...ATTEMPT! Your channel is the apex of unbiased reporting in 2024. (So many other channels are calling this launch, and the 3 prior, 100% successes.)
@salty_berserker_channel
@salty_berserker_channel 24 дня назад
a human could have survived that ride!
@johnkoay8097
@johnkoay8097 24 дня назад
So, next steps, better, stronger, thinner steal sheets.
@setlik3gaming80
@setlik3gaming80 24 дня назад
🖖🏽
@jamesh1597531
@jamesh1597531 24 дня назад
Where's the ships in the ocean tracking booster and starship. Surely they must have.
@bikepacker9850
@bikepacker9850 23 дня назад
Why do you have the word "Attempt" in your title?
@TCarneyV12
@TCarneyV12 24 дня назад
First view, first comment!
@edgein3299
@edgein3299 24 дня назад
Too bad they can’t recover the second stage to see how much damage was done.
@fabiofboful
@fabiofboful 24 дня назад
Elon musk has said some time ago the flaps design should be improved.
@davidstevenson9517
@davidstevenson9517 24 дня назад
But he did nothing about it...
@okirooju3787
@okirooju3787 23 дня назад
​@@davidstevenson9517you're not paying attention, obviously. Nothing is going to be done about it in this iteration of Starship. Most major design changes are slated for v2. Cut Elon some slack 😂
@pchris6662
@pchris6662 24 дня назад
I am just so proud of all these guys. Only in the USA could his happen! This is what free markets and capitalism can accomplish.
@whatthefunction9140
@whatthefunction9140 24 дня назад
Will they retrieve the ships?
@jaeluatl
@jaeluatl 24 дня назад
No
@Asterra2
@Asterra2 24 дня назад
Hopefully they detonated the FTS as soon as Starship finished tipping over into the ocean. Otherwise it's just a prize floating out there for somebody (we know who) to collect and copy.
@thorin1045
@thorin1045 24 дня назад
@@Asterra2 who? who needs a crumpled tank to copy it? that is what stays intact enough to copy, maybe, unless it is ruptured too, than it just sinks as it is mostly quite heavy metal structure.
@konkam744
@konkam744 24 дня назад
@@Asterra2 you can't destroy the whole vehicle with the FTS when it's not moving or loaded, the charges punch holes in the tanks so that either the structure gives up or the fuel catches fire
@KiRiTO72987
@KiRiTO72987 24 дня назад
No, they opened all the tank vents on both booster and ship after landing and allowed them to sink to the bottom of the ocean
@plexibreath
@plexibreath 24 дня назад
Did Starship sink, or did it manage to float such that it can be retrieved?
@gamers-xh3uc
@gamers-xh3uc 24 дня назад
No it was meant to sink
@larrykelly9722
@larrykelly9722 24 дня назад
I think the biggest question after the landing is how the other side faired compared to the camera side. This would help determine how much design change will be needed. Is it tile improvements or a complete redesign of the way the flap is attached. Having moving parts in such a high pressure area is almost impossible to keep the heat from between the two parts.
@Pararn1226
@Pararn1226 24 дня назад
Starship landed in the ocean. Did they sink it or are they going to recover it?
@thorin1045
@thorin1045 24 дня назад
most likely it will sink on its own.
@filonin2
@filonin2 24 дня назад
@@thorin1045 They made sure it would sink.
@douglasarmstrong2380
@douglasarmstrong2380 24 дня назад
Did this happen today?
@alessioantinoro5713
@alessioantinoro5713 24 дня назад
Yes, few hours ago
@davidstevenson9517
@davidstevenson9517 24 дня назад
Yeah, caught me by surprise too! I've been following the Starliner mission, thought this test-launch was days away
@xRola.
@xRola. 24 дня назад
During cast the reporters mentioned they won’t be retrieving starship, is it the same case for the booster? I know it’s in open ocean but still seems like a waste. Also anyone noticed the flap after burning up some took on a wing like shape. I just thought it was cool.
@TheEvilmooseofdoom
@TheEvilmooseofdoom 24 дня назад
No recovery for either.
@bluesteel8376
@bluesteel8376 24 дня назад
of course they are not recovering. No one recovers sunken rockets.
@namei8967
@namei8967 24 дня назад
I am confused. At the last of stage of the ship, the layout of the engines at the bottom left corner showed no engine firing, then how the ship speed could be slowed down?
@amateuryoutuber
@amateuryoutuber 24 дня назад
It might be because a sensor got damaged and stopped relaying engine data.
@zander_the_space_nerd
@zander_the_space_nerd 24 дня назад
The engine lit but sometimes the graphic is unreliable
@johnrickard8512
@johnrickard8512 24 дня назад
Aah yes they pulled an Apollo 7. Good Work SpaceX!😊
@monsterram6617
@monsterram6617 24 дня назад
There were crew aboard this flight?
@TheEvilmooseofdoom
@TheEvilmooseofdoom 24 дня назад
@@monsterram6617 It's a nonsensical statement.
@bobandkaren2011
@bobandkaren2011 24 дня назад
SpaceX takes Agile development to a whole other level!
@gdutfulkbhh7537
@gdutfulkbhh7537 24 дня назад
Still no payload? Not even ballast?
@nunya___
@nunya___ 24 дня назад
"Data" was the officially announced payload.
@memyselfni7583
@memyselfni7583 20 дней назад
GORILLA TAPE WORKS GREAT ON MY TRUCK . DOES ELON KNOW ABOUT IT?
@Rawkus919
@Rawkus919 24 дня назад
Booster was over 300kph slower at 68km separation point. Nearly 5% under performance vs IFT3 and slower again vs IFT2. Is this because of a single engine failing? How will it perform with any sort of payload and an engine failure?
@actionjksn
@actionjksn 24 дня назад
I totally missed the flight and wanted to find out exactly what happened. This video is exactly what I was looking for. I wanted to find out everything important that happened without having to watch for 1.5 hours, this was perfect. As an amateur fabricator I approve of their technique for developing this ship. I think blasting off a bunch of ships and fixing problems after each one is going to be the fastest way to get this thing done. It looks like everyone else is working on achieving perfection before ever blasting off a rocket. The old technique I think is slower, if you look at what Boeing has done and also Blue Origin, it is taking them longer. Bear in mind you cannot compare the Boeing starliner with starship, instead that ship is what was competing with Falcon 9, which has been pretty much perfected for a long time. I expect that once they get Starship fully functional, they will start using some more lightweight expensive high-tech materials in the construction. Right now they know that these things are getting destroyed on the first use so they probably aren't trying to spend a bunch of money on exotic materials when they can avoid it. They may eventually even replace the stainless steel to get the weight down after this thing is operational. They definitely need to upgrade and over engineer those flaps from what we've seen on this flight. Mother nature basically took a plasma cutting torch to that thing.
@sorenac
@sorenac 24 дня назад
And yet the MVP Flap told Mother Nature "Not this time Momma" 😁💪
@mrhyperbolic7455
@mrhyperbolic7455 24 дня назад
It looks like they are going to figure this out eventually. BUT the heat shield? That technology just ain't here yet. I do not know what they are thinking.
@Sam_Saraguy
@Sam_Saraguy 24 дня назад
Elon tweeted that "many tiles" were lost from Starship. That may be a significant setback. Aside from the TPS issues, the flight was a huge success for SpaceX today. Edit: Hopefully the many tiles were all from the flap that failed. That would be easier to address than random tiles from different locations on the ship.
@TheUltimateGamer30
@TheUltimateGamer30 24 дня назад
Will Starship be found floating on water and checked?
@bluesteel8376
@bluesteel8376 24 дня назад
No. It is resting on the bottom of the ocean.
@Agent77X
@Agent77X 24 дня назад
The rocket tiles not working, glue not strong enough. Tiles need to be stronger and not burn off. Missing engines be fixed.
@TheEliminator1992
@TheEliminator1992 24 дня назад
Nahhhh, really?????
@filonin2
@filonin2 24 дня назад
Only one engine failed.
@michaeldeierhoi4096
@michaeldeierhoi4096 24 дня назад
The starship made it all the way to a landing burn followed by the flip maneuver and soft touch down. That was only possible if most of the tiles successfully protected the ship. There was only a problem around the flap joint on the port side of the ship. Maybe the tile needs to be thicker, but it's a tricky point to address because it is right at the pivot point of the flap. I'm sure Space X will figure it out.
@davidstevenson9517
@davidstevenson9517 24 дня назад
The other test flights were catastrophic but this one WAS completed AND relatively intact. Critic of Starship as a lunar lander, yes I am; but as a StarLink launcher, it's finally showing progress.
@okirooju3787
@okirooju3787 23 дня назад
​​@@michaeldeierhoi4096If I'm correct Elon has said the positions of the flaps will be changed. The plan is to move them higher up towards the leeward side of the ship. I think that way, re-entry plasma misses those problem areas on the flap. I might be wrong, so it's just my uninformed theory. Yes, SpaceX will have the answers.
@MrBrendanrex
@MrBrendanrex 24 дня назад
Presumably the ship is bobbing about on the ocean and it's going to be recovered and examined in detail all over, not just those parts in view of the camera. Allowing it to sink to the bottom of the ocean sounds a little dumb.
@TheEvilmooseofdoom
@TheEvilmooseofdoom 24 дня назад
No, it likely broke or cracked upon toppling and sank. There was never any plan to recover. That's what they did with F9 as well.
@filonin2
@filonin2 24 дня назад
There was never any plan to recover them and they were intentionally sunk.
@MajSolo
@MajSolo 24 дня назад
too good to be true. Maybe the ship will blow up next flight. The flaps are actuated electrically? If hydraulically then I wonder how the oil coped.
@Asterra2
@Asterra2 24 дня назад
It's electric actuation. It used to be hydraulic, like on IFT1. As for blowing up, it's not impossible. If the FFA doesn't drag their heels on the next launch-and I mean if they give the license inside three weeks-SpaceX will probably feel comfortable launching Ship 30, even though it's the same design and the flaps will melt again. There's always the chance that the melting flaps will cause a bigger issue that leads to the loss of the vehicle.
@war_fish
@war_fish 24 дня назад
sadly for you, it is true. the flaps along with the rocket's gimballing systems are electric, IFT-1 had hydrolic actuators on the engines which ended in a explosive way.
23 дня назад
With this sort of progress they may reach orbit in 10 or 12 years....
@fanaticvandal472
@fanaticvandal472 23 дня назад
Meanwhile SpaceX successfully tests Starship that can carry 100 astronauts rather than 2.
@MykePagan
@MykePagan 24 дня назад
Prepare to hear that this was a complete success while Starliner yesterday was a total failure
@TheEvilmooseofdoom
@TheEvilmooseofdoom 24 дня назад
This was a complete success. Did something go south on Starliner?
@luma8212
@luma8212 24 дня назад
@@TheEvilmooseofdoomjust a helium leak
@michaeldeierhoi4096
@michaeldeierhoi4096 24 дня назад
It doesn't help your bottom line to be a perpetual cynic Myke!!
@davidstevenson9517
@davidstevenson9517 24 дня назад
Butch and Soni are still alive and well, Mykel; or should NASA pull the plug on them, Karen Anne Quinlen style.
@MykePagan
@MykePagan 24 дня назад
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom helium leaks and some of the maneuvering thrusters may not be fully functional
@martinef1963
@martinef1963 23 дня назад
First it was a false characterization of the account, then when informed it was Jack Smith who fessed ip, now you want me to comment on a discovery dispute - pick one? So obviously biased.
@israelitenet
@israelitenet 24 дня назад
Jeff Bozo, Eat your heart out!
@thorin1045
@thorin1045 24 дня назад
for what?
@psychiatry-is-eugenics
@psychiatry-is-eugenics 24 дня назад
Can’t reuse after landing in water . And the grift goes on
@filonin2
@filonin2 24 дня назад
These specific prototypes were not planned to be reused and were landed in the water as they are not yet to the landing on land testing stage, just as was done with the most successful rocket ever, Falcon 9. What should have gone on much longer was your education, kiddo.
@davidstevenson9517
@davidstevenson9517 24 дня назад
Test vehicles, Sigmund, are always disposable... like some people that aren't useful; can't keep their heads above water, sink or swim, eugenics style. Something to contemplate whilst lying on your couch, if you get my grift.
@godfree2canada
@godfree2canada 24 дня назад
never gonna be crew ready or safe
@randgrithr7387
@randgrithr7387 24 дня назад
It just survived a hull compromise - the same failure that took down Columbia - and completed it's flight profile. Was the Shuttle Program safe? Was it worth killing 14 people?
@filonin2
@filonin2 24 дня назад
Any particular reason why? The same company puts people in space all the time and fields the most successful rocket ever. You could never do anything like this, but your betters can, kiddo.
@davidstevenson9517
@davidstevenson9517 24 дня назад
Wait and See; that is the Spaceflight Observers maxim. I learned that in the 70s.
@godfree2canada
@godfree2canada 24 дня назад
@@filonin2 spoken like a true cultist
@Mentaculus42
@Mentaculus42 24 дня назад
Impressively “successful” by sx standards (huge amount of data), BUT THOSE TILES ARE GOING TO NEED WORK, maybe some fundamental rethinking. Would be interested in people’s thoughts about how the thermal protection system needs to be “tweaked” to get quick turnaround reusability. Personally I have only one suggestion, and that is … (actually too complicated and not in a position to pontificate on an opinion based on few facts).
@Hungary_0987
@Hungary_0987 24 дня назад
Tiles performed well. Flat incidentncould be design issue
@Asterra2
@Asterra2 24 дня назад
They do seem to be aware that the tile issue is a big challenge. Leaving tiles deliberately off felt like a deadly mistake to me but I was wrong. As for the flaps, SpaceX has known for years that they would need to move them backwards from the belly. There are only one or two prototypes left which still have the flaps directly on the sides of the ship. If they launch those prototypes, the flaps will probably melt again. But the new design is coming.
@Mentaculus42
@Mentaculus42 24 дня назад
@@Hungary_0987 How can one say that, ss lost a flap/s from total burn out but it seems that the fuel tanks were not compromised but a lot of the “success” maybe attributed to the heat resistance of the stainless steel (which probably helped once on the Space Shuttle).
@Mentaculus42
@Mentaculus42 24 дня назад
@@Asterra2 Yes, one of the “benefits” of hardware over-rich development, built hardware that got ahead of the “learning curve”. It would suggest that they should launch as soon as reasonably possible with more updated hardware.
@Asterra2
@Asterra2 24 дня назад
@@Mentaculus42 That would be my preference. It depends on the FAA. If they can get a license inside 3 weeks, I think they'll be happy to send up Ship 30 and conduct some new tests like in-orbit relighting. But if we're looking at months again, then I'd be happier if SpaceX just pivots directly to the Block 2 design.
@spinnymathingy3149
@spinnymathingy3149 24 дня назад
Got a LONG way to go before it’s safe for humans to board
@godfree2canada
@godfree2canada 24 дня назад
never going to moon with spaceX
@namei8967
@namei8967 24 дня назад
Jealous
@filonin2
@filonin2 24 дня назад
You're never going to the moon with any company, poor.
@hermeticxhaote4723
@hermeticxhaote4723 23 дня назад
I have strong doubts. Their are many, many issues. The HLS can easily tip over, even if not that dumb elevator can grind to a halt due to the regolith resulting in stranded crew left to die a long drawn out death. Every indication is 100 tons payload is not going to happen. Then 15 additional launches just to refuel is absurd.
@namei8967
@namei8967 23 дня назад
@@hermeticxhaote4723 any technical problems can be solved as long as you have money, and spaceX is now self sustained financially from starlink.
@godfree2canada
@godfree2canada 23 дня назад
@@hermeticxhaote4723 the cult will refuse to even see these issues
@spinnymathingy3149
@spinnymathingy3149 24 дня назад
Still, even when successfully operating it’ll be an impotent rocket compared to the Apollo rockets
@mingouczjcz3800
@mingouczjcz3800 24 дня назад
I'd say it's 40% success and 60% failure. When splashing down, the starship was almost destroyed, so little pieces could be collected for study and future improvement.
@alessioantinoro5713
@alessioantinoro5713 24 дня назад
It's a total success and more, all the objectives were completed, new problems have been found to fix (this is a good thing) and a worse case scenario has been tested, so we know a successful mission can be carried with engines missing, and a few tiles missing. These problems will naturally be fixed to have 100% reliance, but it's assuring that even in case of a disaster the mission won't fail. (110% success)
@namei8967
@namei8967 24 дня назад
95 success and 5 failure.
@namei8967
@namei8967 24 дня назад
Don't worry, they have no plan to collect any pieces at the first place.
@Kayaba01
@Kayaba01 24 дня назад
I’d go more 70% success 30%, they completed both objectives that being soft land booster and survive re-entry, obviously both had problems, the booster loosing 2 engines one explosively too, and the tiles on the ship definitely need work but they knew that already and they know what to expect seeing as the they had control all the way to landing with at least one(we don’t know if the others melted too) half burned off flap
@ZorroComputers
@ZorroComputers 24 дня назад
Congrats with landing a coffin.
@TheEvilmooseofdoom
@TheEvilmooseofdoom 24 дня назад
Like a coffin? That doesn't make any sense.
@jimschissler4180
@jimschissler4180 24 дня назад
AH
@randgrithr7387
@randgrithr7387 24 дня назад
It faired much better with a hull compromise than Columbia...
@mclark42
@mclark42 24 дня назад
Onscreen telemetry showed no engines firing at the end. "Landing burn" in this case must mean a burning rocket. .
@Hungary_0987
@Hungary_0987 24 дня назад
The haters must hate… THEY SAID IT EGNITED. WHY WOULD IT HAVE TIPPED AND SLOWED DOWN THAT MUCH.
@RocketPal
@RocketPal 24 дня назад
Onscreen telemetry means more than reality to you? If so, you are an idiot.
@Asterra2
@Asterra2 24 дня назад
My guess is that the tiles they removed at the bottom of the ship allowed some things in that area to get damaged, including the sensors for the engines. But like... the whole world can watch the footage. Starship comes to a halt vertically, it tips over to horizontal, and then we see the camera jolt from the belly flop into the water. Nobody is so delusional that they can't see this for themselves.
@HomesteadDNA
@HomesteadDNA 24 дня назад
The telemetry didnt show that, but it showed the altitude.
@war_fish
@war_fish 24 дня назад
who knows what happened. but it did flip and slow down and land.
@intheshell35ify
@intheshell35ify 24 дня назад
That flap didn't hold on by accident. It had to have been designed with that specific failure in mind. BTW, Musk promised if they got a booster soft touchdown they would try to catch it next time. I will lose my shix if they pull that off. It will be a HUGE gamble.
@michaeldeierhoi4096
@michaeldeierhoi4096 24 дня назад
A catch of the booster is unlikely to happen with only one launch tower. If they lose that in a mishap then all flights would be delayed until a repair is done
@henrikmanitski1061
@henrikmanitski1061 24 дня назад
I think they'll try that only after they have 2 (TWO) operational towers. In case something goes wrong.
@davidstevenson9517
@davidstevenson9517 24 дня назад
Oh stop it! "Didn't hold on by accident"? Crap! You're giving credit where it isn't due. Tiles are NOT designed to fall off and treat an essential aerodynamic fixture to a scorching! You are a sycophantic apologist (aka SpaceX Cultist).🚀🤡
@intheshell35ify
@intheshell35ify 24 дня назад
I know Musk's timeline is perpetually optimistic...but that is what the man said.
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