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A fast 308 - whoever needed that? What started out as a search for a low-recoil hunting load ended up as a flat shooting deer load, with great accuracy and high velocity. In this video, we get into it!
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@Greyzonecompliant
@Greyzonecompliant 3 года назад
I hate the 308. It made me get into reloading, One rugged hole with my first 3 shots. That was sooo many dollars ago.
@jeffhuntley2921
@jeffhuntley2921 3 года назад
I hear ya:)
@Thomasr435
@Thomasr435 3 года назад
$2.50/rnd or match ammo... Reloading at less then $1/rnd. We just won't discuss the cost of equipment where my Sig Other might read this and well... kill me. I have heard that "Some" reloaders have quite the investment in... say 9-10 various presses, and say 30+ different calibers they reload for.
@Greyzonecompliant
@Greyzonecompliant 3 года назад
@@Thomasr435 When we die what if our wives sold our guns for the price which we claimed they cost.
@waynehendrix4806
@waynehendrix4806 3 года назад
@@Thomasr435 I look at it this way, "When your factory supplier fails to deliver, become your own factory." My last Fiocci bad spec .308 proved it to me. I think they mis-packed 7.62.
@nmelkhunter1
@nmelkhunter1 3 года назад
@@Greyzonecompliant In my case she knows since she looks at Gunbroker too. 🤠
@HoofingIT09
@HoofingIT09 3 года назад
I would love to see video around light/fast vs heavy/slower 308 gel tests.
@donaldindividual-1
@donaldindividual-1 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SAUp2bBE4Eg.html Here it is in .308
@mkshffr4936
@mkshffr4936 2 года назад
Me too though my application would be 7.62x54R.
@terrellgreen9951
@terrellgreen9951 Год назад
@@mkshffr4936 8mm .312 not the same weight class 30-6 7.9mm.309 would be more Worthy of an competitor.
@curtissouthern7325
@curtissouthern7325 Год назад
Guy is fantastic, thank you for having someone who’s so qualified yet so humble and knowledgeable on the show!
@scottmiller5975
@scottmiller5975 Год назад
After sighting in at 60 feet, I could easily cover 5 shots with a nickel ru-vid.comUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL ! Truly a pleasure to shoot! Scope was easy to adjust for eye relief. Only problem the varmints must have seen it delivered lol!Update: So impressed with shot groups at 30 yards I purchased a Hammers 3×9 with adjustable Objective scope! Now a true nail driver!
@robertmajors1737
@robertmajors1737 3 года назад
I shoot the 130gr TTSX out of my 308 for deer. It's laser beam flat and extremely lethal. Also, it doesn't scatter lead throughout your venison. Accuracy is excellent, and at over 3100 fps it absolutely devastates game. The solid copper will perform at extreme velocities with no worries about jacket separation. They always exit as well, leaving a good blood trail if you do have to track. I shoot through both shoulders if possible, and generally don't have to track at all.
@agskytter8977
@agskytter8977 2 года назад
This is an unbeatable load in 308 for hunting. I also use this load. App 25 years ago I hunted roe deer with a M14 (Win - production rifle and in Europe..) with 5 round mag loaded with 125 NBT@3100fps. With the 20 round mags I was ready for the Russians to cross the border.
@robertmajors1737
@robertmajors1737 2 года назад
@@agskytter8977 I've been really impressed with that bullet. I was a bit concerned about sectional density, but I've discovered Barnes bullets don't care about it. I really like those bullets.
@jonathonschram3429
@jonathonschram3429 2 года назад
When the 130gr tsx first came out I had some issues with it. Shooting 10 shot groups, I'd get 9 inside of an inch and 1 bullet 4-5" right and up nearly every group at 100 yards. The 'flyer' always ended up in about the same spot, relative to the group. Ended up with a case of 1,000 of the newer (new packaging, plastic box) at an auction. I don't know what changed from the original (ogive? Quality control?), but this lot has been amazing. I've got maybe 15 coyotes with them at 3,100fps. I'll probably end up taking a deer with them this fall. It's worth taking a look at bullets that didn't work for you again after a few years. I guess the mfg can work out some of the early production kinks. I need to give the Honady gmx bullets another chance I guess. Those really sucked when they first came out...
@robertmajors1737
@robertmajors1737 2 года назад
@@jonathonschram3429 I think the Barnes bullets in general have gotten better throughout the years. I guess I never tried them before all the kinks got ironed out, because I've never had any issues I can remember. They're all I use for hunting anymore, mostly because they're lead free, but they're also extremely lethal if loaded correctly. You just have to throw all the old thinking out the window. Sectional density and that kind of thing just don't matter with these as they are going to penetrate no matter what. In my experience, you can take 20 or 30 grains off your old lead bullet load and get the same or better penetration with Barnes. I used to love a 180 ballistic tip for my 300wm, but I like the 150 ttsx even better. And the 130 in .308 has terrible sectional density, but it just doesn't matter because it will still go through a deer's shoulders and chest cavity every time. There's just a little learning curve with them.
@kevingeary1472
@kevingeary1472 Год назад
Just bought 100 130tsx's and with Ramshot Tac on initial load development got about a .230" group. Not a temp stable powder but shows the accuracy potential with barnes bullets. My rifle shoot about 1.25" average with various factory loads.
@spektr540hemi
@spektr540hemi 3 года назад
Yes please, all things 308 Win are of GREAT interest to me. All things of that case family as well, but especially the 308 Win.
@hardball107
@hardball107 3 года назад
@vettelover2009 I bought a used and abused Savage Axis in 270 as a build gun. The first thing I did was install a Shaw 260 Rem barrel on it. It had a 1:8 twist, was 26" long and I had a throat reamer run into it to handle high BC bullets better. What a sweetheart, the barrel and trigger work cost $300 but that 260 will give any 6.5PRC a run for it's money with the Hornady 143 ELDX bullets and 6.5 Staball powder. I seat the bullets out and add a little extra powder for just over 3000 fps across my shooting Chrony. Win ......
@hardball107
@hardball107 3 года назад
@vettelover2009 You got that right, sounds like an awesome rifle.
@neillesslie1484
@neillesslie1484 2 года назад
Thanks for the clarification. I usually shoot 178 eldx bullets in my 308 but I tried the 110 sierras and you are spot on. They shoot real flat and with less recoil. Thanks for the great information.
@eawrightjr
@eawrightjr 2 года назад
I did the same with a 308 for my 10 year old, 44 gr of IMR 4064 with a 125 gr Sierra pro - hunter. Was lookin for a low recoiling round that could get him into shooting centerfire and hunting. I don't have a chronograph, but it is listed around 2900 fps in the manual. Hammers game.
@marshallwarden4240
@marshallwarden4240 3 года назад
I did this with my mosin nagant sporter a few years back. It's a very nicely done rifle. Used .310 123gr vmax with BLC-2 powder & got 3400fps. Actually used hornady .310 123gr interlock soft points with same powder & it put holes through our ar500 3/8 steel targets at 100yrds.
@rom14141
@rom14141 3 года назад
I've done something similar in .30-06 with a 130 gr Barnes with fantastic results, 30 caliber rifle bullet versatility is wonderful.
@sladesmith5651
@sladesmith5651 3 года назад
Do you by chance know what the velocity was on those 130 barnes
@rom14141
@rom14141 3 года назад
@@sladesmith5651 I was running around 3,200 fps, around 8,000 ft w/ about 14% humidity, through a friend's chronograph in NM.
@williammccaslin8527
@williammccaslin8527 3 года назад
Bet you didn't know this, way back in the 30's, they were actually using 130 gr bullets in 30/06 for deer hunting an found out it was the perfect bullet for thin skinned game back then. Alot of old timers swore by this for hunting, as it dumped all of its energy into your game.
@sladesmith5651
@sladesmith5651 3 года назад
@Brian Duffee..thanks.
@tonydevich7937
@tonydevich7937 2 года назад
Thanks for your service guy!
@mrzrog
@mrzrog 3 года назад
My good friend uses a 130gr Barnes TTSX bullet for deer here in Indiana and she has great success. I’ve considered giving it a try myself because most of the shots we get are 200 yards or less. Most are actually 50-100 yards. She (I think) loads with 3031 powder.
@fjb4932
@fjb4932 3 года назад
Sounds like a good friend. Ask her to work up a deer load for your rifle. Kick back some prime deer meat for each deer she helps you get. Win-win, take good care of your friend ...
@charlesmullins3238
@charlesmullins3238 Год назад
No luck yet with the 180ttsx in .308dd5v3..tryin varget now so we’ll see…to seat one right it makes oal2.69” instead of normal 2.80” and not sire bout the crimp grooves…don’t crimp any my .308 and never had a problem and put 5 on a 20oz lid@100 with smk’s and 178bthp hornady
@firee2
@firee2 3 года назад
I have loaded the 130 barnes as well in a reduced recoil for youth whitetail deer. Works really well and I am sure you will see great results as well
@darrylpacholko5495
@darrylpacholko5495 2 года назад
Love this video as an illustration for a small frame or youth shooter. Many people just go the 243 route and then when your shooter gets older or gets use to recoil they will buy a 308 or 30 06. My way of thinking is get them one gun for everything and do reduced loads or smaller projectiles. Your recoil is a couple of lbs above a 243 and you can move up any time you want. For me a 243 is to small for Elk and Moose. If your shooter desires to move up to bigger game when they get older or more experienced they have enough rifle to get the job done.
@JRMny-nl4ut
@JRMny-nl4ut 3 года назад
Yeah, I'm glad Guy is on this channel too.
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
Thanks! :)
@jim-rk1yo
@jim-rk1yo 3 года назад
I use the barns 130 grain TSX in my 300 wm at 3700 fps for deer. It works very well it usually stays in one piece and exits. Most deer die instantly for a lung shot.
@jonasb9254
@jonasb9254 2 года назад
I don't have a 308, but my 30-06 with the same 125g Nosler is running about 3400 fps. Its my go to load for antelope out to about 400yds. Very accurate and they don't go very far!!
@guyminer2384
@guyminer2384 2 года назад
Ya, the good ol' 30-06 can really belt these lighter bullets out at high velocity. Nice to know that you're getting good accuracy.
@ryankarrar6107
@ryankarrar6107 3 года назад
The 125 Balistic tip is an awesome bullet. I've shot a lot of 125 Speer TNT's in my Garand. Another awesome bullet. Working up a load with them in my 20" 308 AR that will be just over 3,000 fps.
@larrybassett5559
@larrybassett5559 3 года назад
I used to shoot those in my Match M1 at 200, standing and sitting. Worked pretty well most days.
@christopherelmer30
@christopherelmer30 3 года назад
I load the 125 nosler with tac powder and I'm getting 2950 fps out of my 16.5" .308 And it shoots about 1/2 moa. Was very little recoil. My 9 year old daughter loves shooting that load.
@hottub2609
@hottub2609 3 года назад
Very nice, my 20'' 308 shoots the 178 eldx at 2500fps haha. But its an insanely accurate load that is perfect for under 300 yards.
@JJ_MTB_15
@JJ_MTB_15 2 года назад
Same here, I'm loading 125 Accubonds with H322. 3170 from a 20" barrel.
@The_Hunan
@The_Hunan 2 года назад
Tac powder is awesome! 3k with the 110 vmax out of my 16" ar10. Ruthless on pigs!
@trevorkolmatycki4042
@trevorkolmatycki4042 Год назад
I loaded up 150gr TTSX bullets in 300WM with IMR4350 and got 3350fps MV. Took a nice Whitetail buck with it at around 150yds. Notable was the fact that the entry and exit holes in the rib cage were the same diameter indicating that the bullet expands very rapidly. The joy of this load is the 366yd maximum point blank range for an 8” kill zone. 330yd MPBR for 6”KZ. 290yd MPBR for 4” KZ. Now THAT is FLAT!
@garrisonbaker1802
@garrisonbaker1802 2 года назад
I've used this same combo on a deer, 125bt and 48gr of Varget. Shot it from 40 yards and lost 5lbs of meat from the explosiveness, and dumped the innards of the buck out, but it also didn't run far. So as far as recoil shy shooters, the only drawback I would see is the narrower window of optimal performance. Which your guest covered probably being at that 100 to 150yd window.
@Nightshift12482
@Nightshift12482 3 года назад
Been running a .308 with 125 grain Nosler Accubond with H4895 in my T/C Venture for quite a few years for deer now.
@reallygoodideanetwork3574
@reallygoodideanetwork3574 3 года назад
X2
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
That Accubond version should add some structural integrity to the stubby 125 gr bullet. Since you've been using it for a few years I'd expect that you have had good results?
@Nightshift12482
@Nightshift12482 3 года назад
@@guyminer3168 Drops whitetails very well!
@statikpunk
@statikpunk 3 года назад
I really like this segment ..real reloader with a real load and a real gun. Not options for that kind of story out there
@marvinbrock960
@marvinbrock960 2 года назад
I started my son and daughter on .308’s, not having a fondness for .243’s for large critters, the .308 got the nod. 130gr Speer hot-cot SP, then later 125 Nosler BT… loaded with H-4895… 2500-ish fps from 20” youth model Remington 700 SPS’s.. Those loads flattening deer better than I would’ve imagined. The so-called varmint bullets expanded perfectly and killed consistently. I later moved them to 150’s ahead of RL-15.. staying around 2600 fps… soft shooting and very reliable on deer. I’ve since switched my daughter, now 22, to a REM 700 SPS 22” in 7mm/08… the 120gr Nosler BT at 2700fps, (still under loaded) is absolutely amazing… and she doesn’t flinch! 😉
@josesixto11
@josesixto11 3 года назад
Gracias por los buenos videos de siempre... saludos desde Argentina...
@chrisdikovics3580
@chrisdikovics3580 3 года назад
I am loading the Barnes TTSX with 47.5 grains of Varget in Winchester cases and Winchester Large Rifle Primers for my Remington M7 with a 20" barrel . Under an inch groups at slightly over 2900 fps . Excellent penetration on coastal North Carolina whitetails .
@ejsocci2630
@ejsocci2630 3 месяца назад
Another great video 👊🏻🇺🇸and thanks for your service. The .308 has always been a great one
@gavinbeard9999
@gavinbeard9999 2 года назад
I run 125g sierra soft point with 40g of ar2206h. Pushing 3k. Excellent hunting load
@larrybassett5559
@larrybassett5559 3 года назад
Good video guys, Jim Cloward was an awesome gunsmith, rifle builder and shooter, now retired. Old friend and one hell of a guy.
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
He taught me a fair bit about long range shooting.
@larrybassett5559
@larrybassett5559 3 года назад
@@guyminer3168 me too, the knowledge and experience he has is priceless.
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
@@larrybassett5559 - for several years I competed with a Win Model 70 308 that Jim had built for Gary Rasmussen. Wow! That thing could shoot! Of course Gary shot it better than I did, but it was quite a rifle. Much respect for Jim and his accomplishments.
@larrybassett5559
@larrybassett5559 3 года назад
@@guyminer3168 Indeed! Another great shooter and nice guy. Pretty rare occurrence if Gary attended a match and didn't 🏆 win overall.
@bashole5925
@bashole5925 3 года назад
My father started using 125/130 in his 06, 50 yrs ago. They are deer killing machines. So when I started hunting that's what we loaded in .308 for me as a young hunter. I still use them to this day in my 06. Great bullet to 300yds.
@ExpatriotSilencers
@ExpatriotSilencers 3 года назад
And well beyond. I have regularly used the 125gr Ballistic Tip to 700 yds.
@charlesmullins3238
@charlesmullins3238 Год назад
Makes me enthusiastic bout these 130 federal varmit loads showin 3050fps on box…shootin a 16” Daniel defense auto loader
@chaddfry5345
@chaddfry5345 3 года назад
Excellent video! I just got into reloading, and I'm developing my process using 308 Winchester. I'm currently developing a load using Lapua brass, Fed 210M primers, Ramshot Tac, and 180 gr Berger Elite Hunter bullets. I think that bullet is an excellent candidate for ballistics gel testing.
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
Tac is a great powder for the 308 Winchester, 180's are great in the 308, and Berger makes a fine bullet. Perhaps I can convince Gavin to let me test that combo? :)
@death818
@death818 3 года назад
try IMR 4064, you wont be disappointed. It's also more temperature stable. I shoot mainly 175-180gr bullets, produces one hole groups @ 100
@russellkeeling4387
@russellkeeling4387 Год назад
As I was watching this I was also reading an old Speer reloading manual. Looking at the .308 Winchester it says," An experimental cartridge known as the T-64 is precisely the same thing as the cartridge known as the .308 Winchester. If the T-65 becomes the U.S. service cartridge it will become an exceedingly popular one." From a 1954 Speer handloading manual. It seems Speer was correct.
@jacovandenberg7152
@jacovandenberg7152 3 года назад
Thank you for the great videos. 308 Win , 125gr nosler ballistic tip @ 3000fps. Shoots flat and accurate. I use it as a varminting load for caracal & jackal with a few warthogs also going down hard with this load. I have achieved 3225 fps (26" barrel) with faster burning powders without excessive pressure signs. Barnes ttsx 130gr should be an excelent load. I also use a155gr hornady ELd-m @2800 fps and works great!
@wideopenyamaha
@wideopenyamaha 3 года назад
Great video. I hunt 18" ruger American 308 with 130 ttsx at 2980 fps and works great
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
There is a lot of love for that little 130 gr Barnes TTSX... You must enjoy that light handy rifle too.
@raybates3119
@raybates3119 2 года назад
Thanks for your service in blue brother. I'm in my 31st year as a LE instructor in precision rifle (among other disciplines). We have custom built rifles that shoot 1/2 moa for work but, like you, I got lucky with my personal custom Remington rifle. It started out as a SPS tactical that I restocked. It shoots pretty much through the same hole at 100 yds. with Federal GMM 168 gr.
@danielmatthews3420
@danielmatthews3420 2 года назад
I retired last year with 30 years of law enforcement and was able to buy both of the Remington 700s from my agency. Love them both equally!
@raybates3119
@raybates3119 2 года назад
@@danielmatthews3420 Nice! I finally retired last month. 31 years to the day. Here's to many years of you enjoying those rifles!
@TheDirksAaron
@TheDirksAaron 3 года назад
I am using a factory loading from Winchester (Deer Season XP 150gr) in a Remington 700 SPS varmint in .308. Compared to the other factory loads I tested it was significantly more accurate and the recoil is noticeably lighter. I have yet to handload anything for it so I'm sure there is room for improvement. That being said it was 1moa or better if the dummy behind the gun did his job. It nice to see guys very local to my area with such amazing content keep it up!
@marvinbrock960
@marvinbrock960 2 года назад
I’ve used the Deer Season XP in 300 BO, .308 win, 270 win, and 7mm REM Mag.. easily sub-MOA in every gun! Being apprehensive, due to the cheaper price vs other brands, I made sure and shoot enough to rule out “good days”.. man… that is the BEST, as in most consistent and accurate, factory load I’ve ever used. Federal blue box was my go-to for seeing if a rifle wanted to shoot or not. The XP is a tender bullet but it shoots amazingly well. Dropped a nice 7 pt 3 years ago with the 300 BO 150 grain version, 80 yards, broke both shoulders and found the bullet in the offside shoulder, still fairly intact. Impressive. The 140 in the 7RM is a laser beam!
@ryewaldman2214
@ryewaldman2214 3 года назад
TL;DR - downloading the muzzle velocity to simulate long range impacts fails to account for the angular velocity at impact, which may affect expansion dynamics, and at low velocities there may be insufficient angular moment for stability in long, high BC bullets that are typically used for long distance shooting. DISCUSSION: Unfortunately it is not as simple as taking the same rifle and "downloading" the charges for lower velocity to emulate long range impacts. If you follow along in ballistics literature you will come across the discussion regarding stability factors, twist rate, velocity, and rotational velocity. You have two issues: 1) the rotational velocity (RPM) will be different in a bullet launched with a "fast" muzzle velocity (MV), but that has slowed at distance due to wind drag to say 1800 fps (a typical minimum 'expansion' velocity for hunting bullets) compared to a "downloaded " bullet launched at the slow MV to emulate the at-distance velocity. The reason is that the bullet's angular velocity at the muzzle given by AV = MV * (12 [in/ft] / TR), where AV is the angular velocity in RPS (revolutions per second), MV is the muzzle velocity in feet per second, and TR is the rifle's twist rate in inches per rotation. Because of this relationship, it is clear that the bullet's initial angular velocity is directly proportional to its muzzle velocity. What makes this a complication for this test is that the forward velocity of the bullet is degraded rapidly due to wave drag (supersonic flight), form drag, and skin friction, while the rotational velocity of the bullet is only mildly degraded from skin friction. Therefore, even at distance, the angular velocity of the bullet stays close to its muzzle angular velocity. Hence, in the experiment of "simulating distance via low MV" will produce a bullet that is at different angular velocity at impact than that of the true long distance bullet. Lower angular velocity means that the forces contributing to expansion of the bullet will be different. In a spinning body, the internal centrifugal stresses are proportional to the SQUARE of the angular velocity. We do a thought exercise of comparing the size of the stresses on a lead bullet at terminal impact velocity of 1800 fps with some angular velocities corresponding to an 1800 fps MV, a 2700 fps MV (e.g., 6.5 CM), and a 3000 fps MV (e.g., 6.5 PRC), here, the bullet radius, R, is relevant to the centrifugal stress, which is R=1/2 * 0.264 inches if we are sticking with a 6.5 cartridge thought experiment. Let's assume a barrel twist of 1 in 8" (i.e., 1 twist in 2/3 of a foot). The relevant stresses are: stresses due to impact in meat (a water-like density material): Fn = 0.5 * (density) * Vt^2, here Vt is the terminal velocity of 1800 fps. Density is a 1000 kg/m^3 and 1800 fps is about 550 m/s, therefore, the stresses due to impact are something like 150 MPa. The centrifugal stresses are due to the spinning lead (density is about 11x that of water): Fc = 0.5 *(density) * (2*pi * AV)^2 * R^2. If we plug in some of our numbers, we can look at how big the centrifugal stresses are and how they change relative to the MV. Since we know that angular velocity is going to be directly proportional to MV, we can see that the centrifugal stresses will vary in proportion to the square of the MV. at 1800 fps MV, we have an angular velocity of about 2700 rotations per second and using appropriate units in our Fc formula, we can see that the centrifugal stresses will be on the order of 18 MPa. This is more than 10% of the impact stresses, so it is a non-negligible contribution to the stress state acting on a bullet undergoing impact. an MV of 2700 fps generates an angular velocity 1.5x that of an 1800 fps MV, therefore, the centrifugal stresses at this angular velocity are 1.5^2 x more (2.25 X) which is a little over 40 MPa. an MV of 3000 fps generates an angular velocity 5/3 x that of the 1800 fps MV, and correspondingly a 2.8x larger centrifugal stress, which is a little over 50 MPa. As you can see, centrifugal stresses in terminal impacts at distance can have stresses approaching 25% -- 33% of those due to the impact velocity alone, and those centrifugal stresses could be missing by 60% from a low MV simulated shot. The copper jacket is holding the bullet together. The thinner the jacket (e.g., like in match bullets) the weaker the bullet is against centrifugal forces and therefore the more affected its expansion performance will be by the specifics of is angular velocity. The reason a lot of high velocity, thin-jacketed varmint bullets can "grenade" off of a piece of grass is that the ultra-high velocities generate ultra-high centrifugal forces that the bullet is just barely able to hold itself together against the rotational forces - especially in fast twist rate barrels. Even at long distances, the bullets are still rotating extremely fast that they easily expand/explode readily at the slightest impact. 2) Stability. The long distance bullets that are of interest for the "long range, low velocity impact" tests are typically pushing to the limit of the stability for the twist rates used in the rifles to shoot them. By shooting a low MV, the angular velocity of the bullet may be insufficient to prevent tumbling. It doesn't do any good to simulate a long distance shot with a bullet impacting sideways into the test gelatin.
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
Great write up! We have actually discussed this, that it's very difficult to truly simulate the long range impact at short ranges. Slowing the velocity is only part of the equation, but it may be all that we can actually do. Whenever possible I'm going to pop in with bullets that were actually recovered from game at various ranges, I've managed to collect quite a few over the years. That should help folks with bullet selection.
@TomD1999
@TomD1999 3 года назад
A 30BR, a wildcat round based on the 308 but with about a .5'' shortened case, shooting around 34 grains of 4198 or VV 130 will push a 118 grain .308 bullet at very close to 3000FPS. But the kicker is that the accuracy is astonishing up to 300 yards. Custom rifles chambered in 30BR commonly shoot 100 yard groups in the 0.10" (one tenth of an inch) range and less. Competition level barrel life is 3000+ rounds but most of us have spare barrels laying around that we can install in 15 minutes or so. I use LE Wilson dies and an arbor press but have to "bump" the shoulder every 5th round or so. We use exclusively Lapua brass, Fed 205M and can wear out a barrel with 100 pieces of brass though the brass has to be trimmed to length now and again.
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
You sir, are in that rarified class of serious benchrest shooters! Thank you so much for your input! I was a competitor in NRA across-the-course matches, 600 yard prone matches (not F class, sling stabilized), and some practical/tactical matches before PRS was a thing. Neck injuries keep me from shooting prone anymore. :( I've heard of that 118 grain bullet you use... Fellow named Elzie Scott turned me on to the arbor press and Wilson dies long ago. At one point he held the championship for "Hunter Benchrest" and I am forever grateful for his mentorship.
@jasonbroom7147
@jasonbroom7147 3 года назад
I load those same 125gr BT's over a reduced charge of H4895 in my wife's 30-'06 (03A3). She's taken half a dozen deer with those loads, which run around 2,600fps. Recoil is about like a 243 and we keep the distance down to 200 yards or so.
@fratus-p-fratson4433
@fratus-p-fratson4433 2 года назад
I’m here in Australia, and I load 110grain Hornady vmax bullet for my 308 with 46.6 grains of ADI AR2219 leaving the muzzle at 3232 FPS. I have taken a lot of fallow deer with this load, and as me and my mate say it keeps to the zero steps taken program. I have also used it to take a lot of foxes.
@Tophet1
@Tophet1 3 года назад
Thank you, thank you, thank you for listening to our feedback on testing at realistic hunting ranges.
@robsciuk729
@robsciuk729 3 года назад
I've loaded 155 Palma match bullets to very good effect for stretching a .308 out "a bit farther than normal". Powder was Varget, primers were Federal, and I'd have to go look up my data for the powder weight, because I will NOT do that from memory. Pretty reliable load, and after turning necks, and sorting brass etc. etc. I found that by simply seating the bullet twice, even with "standard" dies, and rotating the case 90 degrees between seating strokes, the runout was reduced to a very respectable .001 or less. I've used various presses, including a Dillon 550 (one round at a time), and an RCBS rock chucker ... thanks for the video!
@MrHuntermikey
@MrHuntermikey 3 года назад
Thank You for all your service Guy.
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
Thanks! :)
@chuckschillingvideos
@chuckschillingvideos 3 года назад
Varget and .308 are a match made in heaven.
@anselmcaddell9580
@anselmcaddell9580 2 года назад
I'm trying out some D.R.T. 135 grains with 40 gn of AR-Comp. Sub moa thus far
@valkry007
@valkry007 9 месяцев назад
yup
@nelsondoan8271
@nelsondoan8271 6 месяцев назад
Years ago, using the same bullet out of a .308 M14 at about the same velocity, a top load of 748 shot sub half inch for 5 shots. Loaded 100 rounds and shot a timed long range steel match. It was great to 600 yards, after that I couldn’t pick up the impacts. We did well, it was a team match. First and last time I fired that load, moved on in calibers. But it was a great experience. Some of the new ball powders with temperature insensitivity might do well and load easier.
@cdruss3460
@cdruss3460 3 года назад
Great video! Awesome to discuss the versatility of an old workhorse rifle like that one. Thanks for sharing!
@DanielBoone337
@DanielBoone337 3 года назад
Bullet technology has improved a lot over the years... Now and days you can get extremely heavy duty lightweight bullets that you can turn the velocity up on them and they hold together instead of fragmenting on impact. My wife and mom really don't like hard bucking cartridges and sense me and my dad both shot Creedmoors already buying 2 more Creedmoors and loading everyone up with a 100 or 120gr Barnes TTSX is what I do and everyone shooting the same bullet it makes loading hunting ammo for everyone a lot easier. I'm getting between 3100-3300fps with an all copper 6.5mm bullet so it's extremely flat shooting, very little recoil, and with the really high weight retention of an all copper bullet we're still getting great penetration. If I remember right I've only recovered 3 or 4 bullets and they were the 100gr bullets but they still retained almost 100% of their original weight. Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
There is a lot to be said for the performance of the Barnes TTSX, Nosler E Tip, Hornady GMX and the other unleaded bullets. I anticipate testing more of those in the future. Some hunters have to use them because of where they hunt, others choose to for the wonderful on-game performance. We are living in an era with amazingly good hunting bullets available.
@DanielBoone337
@DanielBoone337 3 года назад
@@guyminer3168 I've always been a fan of bonded bullets and still am but when I tried monolithic bullets for the first time in 6.5 Grendel on a thermal hog hunt I was getting complete pass throughs at 200ish yards with the 100gr TTSX on 150 lb hogs I had to start exploring my options with other cartridges. They can be a little finicky with accuracy, a touch on the pricey side and not going to have those really high BC numbers but none of that is a deal killer for me. They're not for everyone but most people I know who put in the effort to getting them to shoot good dont really hunt with anything else now. Take care brother!!!
@aeroderek
@aeroderek 3 года назад
Re: lethality of lighter bullets. My dad shot many deer over the years with either a 22-250 +55gr nosler BT or a 30-06 +~180 gr rem bronze tip. Every one of the 250 fell in their tracks. Several of the - 06 dripped for a long run. Granted this was a long time ago and one man's experience
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
Good info, thanks! Ya, a small high velocity bullet can work well. I wonder if those 180 gr Remington bullets weren't opening up quickly enough to drop the deer right away?
@ozkiwioutdoors
@ozkiwioutdoors 3 года назад
125gn accubonds great load out to 300 yards on red deer here in nz super light recoil and very hard hitting
@Matt-ze2xc
@Matt-ze2xc Год назад
Yay NZ I'm from kaimais ranges north island and Ur comment all I needed to here I Wana put em thru 16inch tikka on bush stags an open tops to 300yards but still shoot flattish I'm not a range finder guy my eye good enuf an let rip. I use my .222 all time an destroy the reds with 55grn crimps home loads drops em on spot bot just want the 308 for quick front end shots in roar faith
@robbiek5oh
@robbiek5oh 3 года назад
Ballistic gel test 165 partition in decreasing velocities so we can make a call on max range for game; same test for a Barnes would be awesome
@barryw5911
@barryw5911 3 года назад
Ruger Scout 18.5 inch barrel. 130 Barnes TTSX projectile, 46 grains ADI 8208 powder (Australia) 2950 FPS, same load with 125 Nosler BT gives 3000fps, same pt of impact at 100 metres.
@EdAb
@EdAb 2 года назад
I think I have the same rifle (18.7"). What's the longest range you've taken animals with these? More importantly, at what velocity do you find 'full' expansion becoming a problem with the TTSXs?
@fluffy10mmjeepguy92
@fluffy10mmjeepguy92 3 года назад
I have been putting off getting in to reloading now i am going to get a single press for 308 and 338 lapua..... Love the versatility of the 308...
@elliotbernstein8755
@elliotbernstein8755 2 года назад
Loading for grand child,130 Barnes ttsx ,50 grains Tac. 3/4 moa .great load, easy shooting
@guyminer2384
@guyminer2384 2 года назад
Nice. :) Great bullet.
@CHenry1951
@CHenry1951 3 года назад
I've had a 308 since 1971 and still use hunting but have only used 150 & 168 maybe time for some Barnes 130
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
That's the next light bullet I want to try in my 308, a 130 grain TTSX Barnes...
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 3 года назад
Great video. Appreciate & enjoy these. I considered a load like this from my 308 for my young son to hunt deer this year. But it is so large & heavy(Rem 700 vssf 26") so I got a Ruger American Compact in 243. But this is great encouragement for the 308 shooters.
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
The 243 is a great little hunting cartridge! Best of luck to you and your son on your hunt.
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 3 года назад
@@guyminer3168 Thank you. Very much appreciated. Happy hunting to you as well.
@michaeldunn150
@michaeldunn150 3 года назад
My go to hunting gun is my Remington 7400 308win... I love that gun....... I haven't reload any ammo for it yet..... maybe in the near future.
@VitoBb1978
@VitoBb1978 2 года назад
This shows the versatility of the beloved 308 Winchester, I’ve great hand-loads for my Savage model 10 (Law Enforcement) with Nosler 165 BT, 168 Gr SMK’s. Going to be testing the 147 Gr FMJ-BT’s as well as the 175 Gr SMK’s .
@charlesmullins3238
@charlesmullins3238 Год назад
I’ve been loadin a yr for my dd5v3 and 46gr of h4350 puts the 147s n the milkjug cap size groups…I use them and 20oz caps to decide if I like one..175smk are king and I used alpha brass for some…mostly just factory brass I keep reusin..
@neillmurchison5329
@neillmurchison5329 3 года назад
130 Barnes. TTSX 46 Grains IMR 4064. OAL 2.775. Work with the OAL and grains and you may have found a good combination.
@hardball107
@hardball107 3 года назад
Long story short I'm an old National Match Shooter. Back when we moved from Garands to M1a's I developed a 125gr. load for the 200 & 300 yard course of fire. It was 44.2gr of Win 748 under a Sierra 125gr soft point, WLR primer in Winchester brass. I used my M1a for hunting with those loads and it did a fine job, most times DRT. So for my friends with bolt guns I started loading the same combo but stepped up the charge to 49gr of 748 for around 3100fps. It was just more of a good thing, lighter recoiling and dropped deer like a laser beam. Nowadays I substituted a Nosler 125grBT or Partition for the Speer soft point with fantastic results. Watch your brass and weigh it. Winchester is the lightest by 10gr, the rest fall in the middle except for the Federal, the're 20gr heavier than everything else. I always segregate them. I also do the same thing with 30/06 using CCI primers, Hornady brass, 125 gr Nosler Partition or the Mk319 130gr SOST bullet over 52gr of RE15 for just over 3100fps, a starting load no less. The expansion and performance of the Nosler bullets is impressive and all loads shoot to 1 moa, sometimes better.
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
Yes! I've shot the 308 (in a bolt rifle) on across the course matches and in 600 yard prone competition as well as in some less formal practical/tactical competitions. I thought that these light/fast 308 Winchester loads needed some exposure. They've performed well for many of us.
@longsnipz
@longsnipz 3 года назад
I have a Springfield armory M1A National match. Absolutely love it. Learned the irons up to 800yrds before I upgraded to the Springfield armory gen 4 scope mount and got a scope.... she loves 149gr 7.62-51 NATO and my 168gr match loads, haven't tried my light 110 and 125gr loads I have for my bolt rifle... think I'll run a couple through her to see if the rifling will stabilize them.
@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594
@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594 3 года назад
I began shooting 130 gr. Hornady bullets and 48.5 gr. (?) of Win. 748 out of my Remington 788 back in 1980. This load was recognized in the book, "American Bulleted Cartridges". Excellent load.
@hardball107
@hardball107 3 года назад
@@jeffallen3382 The RE15 load is for bolt guns, IMHO RE15 is way to slow for the Garand. My personal favorite load for my Garand is the 150gr. Hornady fmj, any LR primer and 46 gr. of H4895. It's a CMP Service Grade M1, 1942 Springfield with a new stock and a barrel dated 1955 and with that load it shoots moa believe it or not and that load is a direct replacement for the M2 Ball. When I switch to the 125's I use IMR 4064 just because they seem to group a little tighter with that powder/bullet combo. I definitely hit the jackpot with that rifle and loads.
@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594
@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594 3 года назад
Actually, ... IF I recall correctly 130 gr. bullet over 748 @ approximately 3200 fps was initially what Winchester marketed to the government in the 7.62 x 51. I believe Win748 was specifically designed for the .308 .
@matthewblumenthal804
@matthewblumenthal804 3 года назад
I don't know squat yet, but your videos are always educational and I appreciate them!
@chadtaylor3351
@chadtaylor3351 2 года назад
My daughter has a lot of experience with the 125 grain Nosler BT in both .300 Savage and .308 Win. While I can reload for both cartridges I've pretty much stuck to factory ammunition in these rifles, mainly because my daughter just doesnt shoot a lot of volume. The .300 Savage load was from Double Tap ammunition and it averaged 3050 fps from her M700 Classic rifle. That load accounted for around 15 white tail deer in Oklahoma and three pronghorn in Colorado. She started shooting this rifle at 11 years old, and we used the 125 grain for recoil reasons. At 15 I put together a Howa Alpine rifle in .308 for her. I tried some Nosler factory ammunition with the 125 grain to start her out shooting. Going to the Alpine shaved a little over two pounds of weight from her .300 Savage. So again recoil factored in, and the 125 grain bullet was a great starter. It shot so well that I bought a case of ammunition for her. So with the .308 Win and the 125 grain Nosler BT at 19 years old she has three mule deer bucks, another 15 or so white tail, and one cow elk under her belt. One of the mule deer was a bit of a fiasco, but that was poor shot placement by my daughter. The bullet is a little too light for elk as well, while her shot placement was good for the first shot the bullet performance wasn't. It took far too many follow up shots with bad angles to anchor the elk, and the bullet just didn't have the mass to penetrate deep enough. I also have some experience with the 130 grain TTSX out of my 18" suppressed .308 Win with a MV of 2900 fps on elk. It will break the front shoulders on a bull elk, but doesn't create enough trauma to kill the elk. I shot my bull at 260 yards, and while I had no real issues I do feel I needed more velocity for better results.
@guyminer2384
@guyminer2384 2 года назад
Thanks for that terrific report!
@chadtaylor3351
@chadtaylor3351 2 года назад
Thanks Guy, don't you hang out on the Nosler forums from time to time?
@guyminer2384
@guyminer2384 2 года назад
@@chadtaylor3351 - I sure do! :)
@chadtaylor3351
@chadtaylor3351 2 года назад
👍 I definitely like your posts over there as well. I'm just not very active on the forums much anymore.
@ASGundogs
@ASGundogs 3 года назад
I use 110g Nosler’s in my 20” Steyr Scout with H335 and they do 3050fps very accurately 👌🏻 Perfect for foxes and head shooting small game and deer at sensible ranges.
@sealsrx7252
@sealsrx7252 3 года назад
I just got the ssg04 in 308 and I just started reloading 175 SMK with H335 (my first time reloading ever) I did a load development with 38, 38.5, 39, 39.5 and 40 gn of H335. The best group was with 39gn 5 shot group 1inch @ 100 meters. Unfortunately my chronograph run out of battery and couldn’t get any velocity readings. But I’m very impressed with this rifle and that 1-12 twist Cold hammer forged barrel.
@matthew488
@matthew488 3 года назад
I used to do a load for my Tikka M55 308, 20in barrel. I used a 71gr Hornady 32cal pistol bullet run through a sizer die from .311 to .307. With a compressed load of Accurate 2200 I was getting 10 shot sub moa groups average velocity of 3980FPS. Always wished I had a longer barrel to get a more complete powder burn and higher velocity.
@ExpatriotSilencers
@ExpatriotSilencers 3 года назад
I've been using a nearly identical load in my 20" barrelled Savage Precision Carbine for years. 49.5gr of Varget and 125gr Nosler Ballistic Tip runs 3100 fps for me and produces consistent 5/8" 5-shot groups. I've shot this little bullet out to 700 yds regularly with excellent results.
@samdeyton5449
@samdeyton5449 2 года назад
When you say excellent results out to 700 yards, are you speaking in terms of accuracy or also in terms of terminal performance on game?
@diggernash1
@diggernash1 Год назад
125 grain ABs and 130 ttsx are in my brass. I did retire my Abolt after last season though; replaced with a Howa super lite after almost 40 years of faithful service. It will still go to the woods occasionally for nostalgia.
@conservativesniperhunter7439
@conservativesniperhunter7439 3 года назад
I love my bone stock Remington 700 Police Model . It shoots 1/2 inch clover leaf 5 shot groups @100 yards with 42.8gr Australian AR2206H powder and 168gr Hornady A-Max bullets . I’ll be swapping out the HS Precision stock for an MDT Chassis next week .
@GTRSniper1
@GTRSniper1 3 года назад
Mate I have the Remington vsf in 308 heavy varmint barrel and it always shot moa. 2 years ago dropped it into an mdt lss xl gen 2 as well as a trigger tech trigger and dropped it from moa to under half moa instantly.... You won't regret it...
@jokiejokes
@jokiejokes Год назад
love it works great. just the right size
@GetMeThere1
@GetMeThere1 Год назад
As a young man in the middle 1970s I killed HUNDREDS of deer with a Steyr SSG 308 loaded with 110 gr. Sierra varmint bullets. My dad owned a deer preserve, and he seriously needed to reduce his herd size. I made hot loads with those flat-base bullets and -- with the help of a set trigger on that rifle -- I made head shots out to 200 yards. Super accurate and flat shooting over that distance. The deer heads exploded literally like they had hand grenades in them (and I was happy to use my shooting and reloading skills -- and pretty high class equipment for the time: I also had one of the first Kahles scopes imported into the US at that time), to maximize humane treatment for the animals. They never knew what hit them.
@ericstrabel
@ericstrabel 3 года назад
I've used the 130 ttsx on a ~300 lb grizzly while caribou hunting and it did a fantastic job. Entered a front shoulder and exited near the off side hip. Fast kill. I used TAC referencing Barnes' data. I think their max load says above 3100 fps.
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
I have no doubt about the capability of that 130 grain Barnes TTSX! And yes, it'll do 3,100+ fps pretty easily. Hoping to do another article & video on that bullet as well. I found some at a local gunshop and snapped 'em up. :)
@SaskLongbow
@SaskLongbow 2 года назад
Such a humble guy.
@kevingeary1472
@kevingeary1472 Год назад
308 with a 130 TTSX is an awesome match! It will punch straight through a deer or elk. Shot placement is more important due to less expansion but at 130 grains you should be able to achieve 3100-3200 fps. My preference is to keep impact velocity above 2000 fps. Frontline Rejects has a very good video on this bullet and it's expansion properties in 308.
@slowpoke2122
@slowpoke2122 3 года назад
Keep up the great stuff. This video kicked me off of the fence about my future gun build. Alot of info in a short period. Now im jonesing for the green machine in action with the various loads.
@tracyg1
@tracyg1 2 года назад
Love this mix... I have a 125gr Nosler load that is wicked on hogs...
@DaOzMan0608
@DaOzMan0608 5 месяцев назад
Seeing a gun that has actually worked against bipedal targets is mumbling. Great video guys, I'm getting closer and closer to hand loading. Thanks for the motivation.
@chevyon37s
@chevyon37s 3 года назад
I’ve shot that same 125gr .308 Nosler BT and Varget in my .308 definitely cuts down the recoil! Haven’t gotten the greatest accuracy with it, but on par with other 150 and 165/8gr bullets in the .308
@jackbuendgen389
@jackbuendgen389 3 года назад
Dang! That'd also be a pretty nice pronghorn load!
@Trigg6978
@Trigg6978 3 года назад
I would like to see the gel test with the 125 gr BT, but definitely want to see some content on that 130 gr ttsx.
@Mac11700
@Mac11700 2 года назад
Yes please...👍👍👍
@tylarhaugan7908
@tylarhaugan7908 2 года назад
I love the 130 ttsx, the 125 accubond works to
@Trigg6978
@Trigg6978 2 года назад
@@tylarhaugan7908 oh thanks. I completely forgot they made an accubond that light for 30 cal. I'll have to try it when I find some.
@donaldindividual-1
@donaldindividual-1 3 года назад
I found my .308 load with the Barnes 130 grain TTSX 10 years ago. Recipe Barnes 130 ttsx Lapua brass 46.3 Imr8208 well under book max. CCI200 Enjoy
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
That bullet has a well deserved reputation for excellent performance on game.
@donaldindividual-1
@donaldindividual-1 3 года назад
The Nosler 125’s and Speer 125’s same load for Varmints. But the Barnes, nothing has ever taken a step after being shot, DRT.
@mdk777s6
@mdk777s6 3 года назад
This load is straight out of Nosler's #9 reloading manual! 50 gr is the most accurate load! Nothing new here! Nosler's manual is always spot on!
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
And that's exactly where I got the load - right from Nosler! I've been shooting their bullets since the 1970's and have taken most of my deer & larger animals with Noslers of one sort or another. Good stuff!
@mdk777s6
@mdk777s6 3 года назад
@@guyminer3168 Well i must say, thank you for sharing and bringing light to a load many would be Leary of! Keep them coming sir! Thank you for your service to the community!
@reconrc1787
@reconrc1787 3 года назад
For a flat, fast shooting 308 try the 110gr Barnes TTSX. They are what I use. I'll post my load data when I get back to the bench. They are zingging and punch right through whitetail. They hold together like a champ. For varmints I use the Vmax 110gr pills I load for 300BO. The 110 Vmax bullets also shoot lights out. I'm running these in 1 x 10 twist 308 barrels. On another note I do have some of the 85gr copper bullets from Maker Bullets. One day I'll get the time to see how they do in 308 as well.
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
Ya, I bought a box of Barnes TTSX 130's and want to try them...
@reconrc1787
@reconrc1787 3 года назад
@@guyminer3168 also look at cavity back bullets. They do help when trying to seat bullets on large charges of powder. Cavity back makes some great lead free bullets.
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
@@reconrc1787 - I'll check 'em out. Thanks!
@reconrc1787
@reconrc1787 3 года назад
@@guyminer3168 I still haven't had a chance to check my load data info but I use AA2200 powder with cci large rife match primers and federal GMM brass. AA2000 works extremely well in 308 with light bullets. If I remember right I was right about 50.5grs and its a great throwing powder.
@orr89rocz
@orr89rocz 7 месяцев назад
Basically any barnes ttsx light for caliber load is a good fast lighter recoil setup. I run the 160 in 338 win mag and its awesome. 120 in a 7mm-08 also shoots well, couldnt find any 110’s. 300 in my 458 win. All shoot great
@vincentrhea8723
@vincentrhea8723 3 года назад
I picked up an FN 308 several years ago. It shoots like a dream. I'll give that load a try. Maybe I can tighten up the group a little.
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
I've gotten roughly 1/4" groups with it. The lighter recoil helps, as do the Wilson Dies I'm using. I've also completely blown some groups... Sigh..
@vincentrhea8723
@vincentrhea8723 3 года назад
@@guyminer3168 probably should separate the brass to seperat makers. But I only use the load's for hunting.
@JRMny-nl4ut
@JRMny-nl4ut 3 года назад
I love the 308. Hammered a 500lb elk at 483 yrds.
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
That's a nice long shot!
@derrickbunn9686
@derrickbunn9686 3 года назад
Used a similar load for ages - using Hornady 125 spire point and AR 2206. in a BSA Majestic.
@paulvenn4447
@paulvenn4447 3 года назад
That handshake!
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
LOL! Gavin and I have been friends for a long time. I was surprised by the handshake. He's a good man, doing good things. We don't rehearse the videos, we just do them. :)
@SteveMcMahon-z4b
@SteveMcMahon-z4b Год назад
Hi. I has a significant projectile failure with Hdy 130g SST. Basically exploded on a deer shoulder at 120yards. It damaged and lead shot a lot of meat. I found, on special, some 110 grain Barnes TSX. 50GN of 8208 and they work a treat on Chital dear. Accurate and flat shooting out of my 16" barrelled scout at 3100fps. No meat damage to talk of and great through and through penetration. I've since tried the 110 TTSX through a 22 inch barrel for 3350 fps with great accuracy but no game shot as yet.
@livingintheLight.
@livingintheLight. 3 года назад
I have a couple of fast 308s. 243 and 22-250
@captaincripple7218
@captaincripple7218 3 года назад
As a Michigan hunter 90% of my shots are under 300 yards 308 is my go to deer rifle. Max charge of varget under a 150gr Hornady soft point and they don’t take another step! 5 shots group under 1/2 moa so head shots on does are no sweat.
@shootingatshadow
@shootingatshadow 3 года назад
What's your velocity with that setup?
@captaincripple7218
@captaincripple7218 3 года назад
@@shootingatshadow 2820 out of a 20” barrel
@shootingatshadow
@shootingatshadow 3 года назад
@@captaincripple7218 wow
@TheChampionp
@TheChampionp 3 года назад
47.5 grains of benchmark, Rem 9-1/2 primer and Sierra 125 pro hunter in federal GMM brass 3082 FPS
@edwardhoward4708
@edwardhoward4708 2 года назад
I think you all are right, I need to load my own cartridges. I have a .308 carbine and really only want to hunt deer and pigs on the east coast. I need to load a smallish BTSP bullet with just the right powder to burn it all before the bullet exits the 16” barrel at the max velocity I can get.
@ronnieskata9002
@ronnieskata9002 3 года назад
I run 110gr ttsx at 1000 m/s with n530 powder in my 308s...works well on everything from roedeer to moose!
@bc30cal99
@bc30cal99 3 года назад
Excellent video sir. Hello to Guy Miner from north of the medicine line!
@guyminer3168
@guyminer3168 3 года назад
Thanks!
@williammccaslin8527
@williammccaslin8527 3 года назад
Thx for the vid, it was interesting to say the least
@justinvandee2008
@justinvandee2008 3 года назад
I picked up 2000 pcs of Brass so loaded up 500 rounds using 125gr loads to form to my chamber. I found max then backed off so I could shoot them in winter and summer. Which was fine cause at about 1.5 gr reduced they shot even better. Cheers
@michaelsanbornsniper8231
@michaelsanbornsniper8231 3 года назад
Excellent video! As a mil Sniper and Instructor I found this fantastic!
@guyminer2384
@guyminer2384 2 года назад
Thanks!
@bobsmyself
@bobsmyself 2 года назад
Best show and best technical information for load development! Thx
@CARLPHILLY
@CARLPHILLY 2 года назад
I just started loading 125 grain Nosler Accubond for my 308 win. I'm getting very good accuracy, I'm going to try them on whitetail deer. I've shot 130 grain Winchester silver tips in my 270 win. and have taken many deer with them, so fast smaller bullets is what I'm used to.
@rotisseriebear5394
@rotisseriebear5394 3 года назад
Thanks for another great video.
@peterschmidt2849
@peterschmidt2849 2 года назад
The 125 Nosler is pretty awesome 😎🇺🇸
@barryiwashita6352
@barryiwashita6352 2 года назад
Had great success with the 125 BT’s to lower recoil and gain FPS on my XP-100 and being a XP …dam accurate 👍🏼
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