What Happened In The ORIGINAL TIMELINE In Dragon Ball Z? 

Always found it ironic that the last saiyan left was apart of the royal bloodline. Everyone got wiped out but the royal blood lives on. The last remaining of the low class saiyans basically sacrificed himself to keep the royalty alive

My theory is that Trunks from the original timeline destroyed 17 and 18 by using a shutoff device, and that's why he had the time machine set for so early hen Cell killed him. He was going to give it to Bulma, so they'd be ready and avoid the mess all together.

I have always liked the idea of travelling in time to a point where the villain isn't as strong as the one you've originally fought. I can imagine future cell (the one that got killed by trunks) was eager to know what his perfect form looked like, and he didn't even know what his name was at that point.

I have so many questions that Toriyama left unanswered: 1- how come no one told Original Gohan and Trunks about the hyperbolic time chamber? 2- did the androids destroy Kami's look out? 3- what happened to the gravity room that Vegeta trained with?

I always considered Cell’s Timeline to be the “original” version of Future Trunks timeline. Where events of both timelines are the same up until Trunks’ second return from the past. Likewise, the Unseen Timeline can be considered the “original” version of the Main Timeline, were events are the same up until the Androids arrival

I remember in DBZ Budakai 1 on PlayStation 2 there was a special Cell saga(what if) where it showed Cell's very existence on Earth the 4 years early that was talked about in the manga and the anime. It confirmed it was around the Namek Saga when he landed in the main timeline. Bulma, Gohan and Krillin was seen aboarding the space ship while Cell in his semi imperfect state watched them from afar.🙂

So the Unseen Universe (UU) never had to deal with Cell, but they never saw their Future Trunks again. The UU probably had a bad ending too. Without Cell to push them to unlock new power ups and transformations they may not have been strong enough when Buu came around.

One reason why I love that loney archive video where goku teleports inside frieza's spaceship.

Crazy to think that the current timeline is actually just a alternative timeline to the timeline where trunks never got a chance to time travel

Wish there was more backstory on Goku’s fight against Frieza & King Cold. The means of Goku’s arrival on Earth has some conflicting dialogue in the show. Goku tells Trunks that he could’ve used Instant Transmission to make it in time. Yet Trunks says that Goku was due to land 2 hours after Frieza & King Cold. Maybe that’s how it played out in the future timeline, but Trunks’ arrival into the past changes that aspect of the story. The same way Goku catches the heart virus later than expected, as well as how Androids 19 & 20 show up to fight first, instead of 17 & 18.

In the panel at 9:41 Cell said "We could have added Trunks's DNA to the line, but we had enough Saiyan samples." That means from that timeline that Cell came from, Trunks killed Frieza and King Cold and not Goku and so that suggests a timeline before the original timeline. I decided it was easier to call it the Cell timeline. And the timeline before that was the original timeline. This means 3 different future trunks not including the non-canon movies.

Did time travel in Dragonball create a ripple in all the universes that ended up creating fighters that naturally surpass the Gods of Destruction?

Cool Vid, LSM! I always get chills when 17 said he wasn't even using half of his power. Anyway to talk in a DM somewhere?

Honesty I think the dark og timeline which cell came from is showing us how lucky are the z fighters plus showing us what could of happned if if they lost they simply lose everything

I really love these thumbnails on these kind of videos it’s how Ik it’s your videos

The algorithm took me here after not being interested in Dragon Ball in so long and I’m loving all these videos. Could you do a comparison between Z and Kai? Thank you and keep the great content coming!

Cell’s timeline was most likely the original. Trunks went to the past and found a way to shut down the androids when he returned to the future. On his way back to the past he was ambushed by Cell. When Cell travelled back he inadvertently created new past and future timelines. There’re four timelines up to that point in the storyline.

Dudeeee I was just thinking of all this recently. This is such a good video. U gained a fan!

Zamasu didn’t choose the original timeline because Shin is most likely still alive, for whatever reason. Remember, Zamasu looked was looking specifically for a timeline without a God of Destruction, meaning that our Trunks’s timeline was the only one in which Shin died. The others, he either didn’t die or passed his title of Supreme Kai to someone else, before dying.

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I would have thought seeing all his friends and family getting killed by the Androids would have caused Future Gohan to unlock SSJ2 at some point. Maybe if he hadn't knocked out Trunks and Trunks had gotten killed in battle instead of him, it would have pushed him over the edge into SSJ2. 🤔

When you think about it, Dr.Gero creating Cell don't even make sense. If he knew it was gone take that long to create cell and he planned on the androids killing Goku and everybody else, who was Cell supposed to beat?

Even if bulma revives everyone, they’re all dead anyway. Zeno wipes out the universe because there is no Goku to talk him into the universal tournament.

IIRC, Cell states that he needed 4 years to develop from a pupa to his adult self. Thus, if he went back to the time to the year of Trunks's first arrival, he would reach adulthood one year after the Androids came, risking him to lose them if they were defeated in the meantime, defeating the purpose of the time travel. Consequently, the only way to guarantee that he would be able to absorb the Androids and reach perfection, is to travel at least four years before the Androids' first arrival. Therefore, my interperpration is that it was who Cell deliberately set the time machine to one year before Trunks's first coming, not Trunks by accident or mistake.

Here's something I've always wondered. How did the future timeline have enough food for two half-Saiyans to eat? For 17 years. I would think there'd be a massive food shortage...

I must admit I like what you do with your videos cause you show the manga side. Which is the original timeline I think

Glad to see I'm not the only person who has thought of this! Thanks for breaking this down. I feel like this kind of thing needs some kind of graph or chart showing how each timeline played out. I'll spare my fanfic idea I have been thinking about that focuses on all the tertiary characters in this original timeline and share my thoughts regarding canon events and speculation instead. One thing that always bothered me is how Baba never helped. Like seriously she could have brought back Goku, Piccolo, Vegeta, or anyone at any time to help Gohan and Trunks. My headcanon is there is a lot (in)conveniently involved with her ability to temporarily raise the dead and the cyborgs sacked her residence and broke her crystal ball which would have been her spell focus. Gero did a lot of recon after all and finding out all he could about Goku's allies and subconsciously planting them as targets in the cyborgs' subconscious seems like something he'd do. After all the cyborgs killed Korin which eliminated the senzu availability. So perhaps Baba was killed or she took a leaf from Roshi's book and went into hiding, perhaps fleeing into the Otherworld where she would be safe and then just never was able to help. Perhaps the lack of Kami due to Piccolo's death meant she lost an important intermediary to speak with King Yemma to ask to bring someone back? The Oracle Fish prediction is definitely a "oh wow whoops" plot hole. However, I like to think it as something the Oracle Fish definitely had a vision of, only Trunks messing with time screwed up its prediction and it had looked into another timeline. I guess by some convoluted logic Trunks' actions caused a "final timeline" (the main story timeline) where The Battle of Gods actually takes place. There is another plot hole in the fact that Beerus wakes up at a point in time in the main story way before Gohan and Trunks are fighting 17 and 18. At the time Trunks is still in his early teens. We certainly don't see Beerus going to Earth and asking Gohan about Super Saiyan Gods. In this timeline I can only imagine it as Beerus waking up and the oracle Fish saying "my prediction must be off, the Super Saiyan God is not appearing yet" so Beerus just decides to go back to bed for a few more years to wait for something to happen, only to never wake up when Shin is killed by Babidi and Dabura. Unless there was something I missed in DBS and Beerus' lack of appearance in Trunks' timeline was explained? Like we know he faded when Trunks' Supreme Kai was killed but was it ever said why Beerus never showed up before then? OR when Beerus wakes up, Whis says he could only find two pure blooded saiyans left on Vampa (completely disregarding the two relatively weaker half saiyans on a dying Earth). Vegeta proved that god ki can be attained without the ritual so maybe Whis and Beerus just train up Broly for Beerus' destined fight? So Beerus fights Broly, they have a good time, Broly trains with Whis for a while, Beerus goes down for a nap, Earth is completely disregarded, Shin gets himself killed, Beerus and Whis both fade, and Broly and Paragus find themselves stranded and alone again. At least Beerus' island is friendlier than Vampa. Hope there is something to eat there! The date on the time machine being 4 years off... I like the idea that he was setting it to bring a remote back to create a timeline where nothing crazy happens but dang would the gods be even angrier at him for creating more timelines! I really think other than the idea of him falling on the controls when Cell killed him he just didn't finish setting it yet and that was one of his saved points he or Bulma thought of going back to. Perhaps a few different days were bookmarked like when Cell actually arrived, when Freeza lands, or right when Goku starts suffering from the virus. Thinking of how exactly Babidi enacts his plans and who tries to stop him could be a fun story in itself. Perhaps some new heroes could arise. Perhaps Videl and Tao arise as the new strong powers on earth after being at odds and then deciding to work together in an unlikely duo. (Tao killed her father's master after all but a revenge plot was never explored. Also I desperately want to see Majin Tao happen.) Or maybe Jaako brings the galactic police to sort it out. Or maybe Arale just wanders over from Penguin Village and just messes up everything and then ends up becoming Buu's best friend, I could absolutely see Toriyama writing that as a joke. (Then things escalate into a storyline like the DBS main story and she befriends the Omni King too! Could you IMAGINE the mayhem?)

A possible way the story could go, the namekians still exist with dragonballs. If Bulma finds out Trunks dies and If theres no threat to stop her from building up the tech anymore I could see her trying to find and go to new namek and wish everyone back at that point. King kai could also possibly help, it's a bit weird he never got involved anyway, especially with Goku being dead and being able to direct his attention there.

I've been saying that we need a 12 or 24 episode series of these timelines. Gohan growing up in that future all those 13 years worth of story to tell. Of course we know how it ends but the in between would be nice. His struggles through out the years, when he first turned super saiyan. Also if Bulma was so smart, why didn't she get some of Gohan's genetic material to have more saiyans around? How she gets the genetic material I'll leave to your imagination. But seriously she could have other women and herself birth more saiyans or take his blood and go the cloning rout. Dropped the ball there Bulma.

15:36 I remember reading in the DBS manga that Zamasu(now Goku black) specifically chose Future Trunks' timeline after being implied that he went through different timelines searching for the perfect timeline to go to and the reason why he chose Future Trunks' timeline was due to the supreme Kai dying in the fight against Babidi and Dabura, therefore killing Beerus as well, so there's no God of Destruction and angel to stop him from laying the groundwork for his goals (due to the angels being decommissioned and must wait for a new GoD to be appointed and they cannot act independently unless it was an order from the supreme priest or zeno himself)

Something I've always wondered, (Since Super retconned this in) How do the oracle Fish's prophesy's work in relationship to time travel. We know that the main timeline isn't really the original timeline, since it is only in the state that it is in thanks to trunks coming back and helping them out during the Android Saga. So if Trunks never showed up, Goku would be dead, and that means no Super Saiyan God right? So what about The oracle Fish's prediction that Beerus would fight a Super Saiyan God? How is this prediction compatible, when you consider that the only way this outcome could come about is if Trunks meddled with the timeline in the first place. So what about the original Timeline, What happens to the Beerus? Did he just wake up and get mad when there was no Super Saiyan God? (And if you really think about it. Shouldn't he have still visited Earth even in the Original Timeline.) It just seems like the oracle fish's prediction could only work if you take time travel into account. But then its still weird because The oracle fish made that prediction 39 years ago. Thats farther back in time than even cell went back in time. Meaning that the oracle fish's prediction should exist in all Timeline's. Yet the successful outcome of the prediction is only possible in one timeline.

The only reason I can vie that Bulma didn't use the Namekian DBs is because the space ship may be destroyed by the androids because the threat was so great.

Instead of constructing a device to deactivate 2 androids Bulma invented freaking time travel! This women really loves it the hard way xD

I think it was implied that the “unseen timeline” is sort of the same as cell’s timeline, where cell’s future trunks succeeded in helping the past, came back to his time to defeat the androids, and ambushed future trunks as he was going to the past for whatever reason

Beerus was still alive in the OG timeline. Beerus scared off Zamasu.

Whatever happened to Chichi in this timeline??? I thought it would have been cool if they had shown Chichi in the Goku Black arc

In Shin Budokai: Another Road, I'm pretty sure Babidi actually DOES come to Earth to attempt to resurrect Buu.

but the thing is the dragon ball wiki says in the original timeline a trunks from an unknown timeline came and killed frieze not goku but that doesnt make sense then that would mean the original timeline isnt original so the dragon ball wiki is definetly wrong abt tht

Hits wood ..... when you realize the goku we originally watched from dragon ball to the frieza fight died 🤯🤯🤯

Am I just now seeing the parallel between Gohan as well as Vegeta knocking out trunks to sacrifice themselves🤯

Future Trunks's timeline is just so depressing. Not only did Goku die of a heart virus but all the Z fighters and Vegeta perished too at the hands of the androids. This is that same timeline that Zamasu eventually came to wipe out right in Super???

What if GT is part of the unseen timeline? It picks up after the end of Z but also given what we've seen in Super, doesn't follow the whole Gods of Destruction being introduced, but does have Trunks that looks like original future Trunks and not the one shows in Super.

I always stuck to the shutdown device idea because whether or not Trunks was surprised by Cell, had he trained in the HTC he'd have been more than a match for base form Cell.

Could you imagine goku just sitting back while someone else beats Frieza and he's not even curious about it or scared and bulma didn't tell trunks goku could use instant transmission

I always thought cell has reprogram the time machine to go a year before Frieza arrive

I wonder if the original Trunks set up the Time Machine to go back 3 years before to stop Gero from building the Androids. Like Trunks was going to stop Gero from kidnapping Lapis and Lazuli and turning them into 17 and 18.

On the original timeline bulma completely has the ability to make a spaceship and go to namek if there is nothing left for her on earth.

Original Timeline = Future Timeline [all of them are gone except Trunks] Cell's Timeline = Future Timeline [Androids has been destroyed by Trunks, Trunks has been killed] Goku's Timeline = Current Timeline [Everyone's alive and well]

Diggin that Yu Yu Hakusho poster

Dang, last time i was this early i became a father 👀

The original death of Trunks is pretty straight forward. With no Cell in the past, Trunks helped defeat the androids then went back in time to defeat them in his timeline. Cell then blind sighted him with move lists from the Z warriors he had no idea of. Was probably solar flared and then grabbed by Cell. When Cell went to the past and made a new timeline, Trunks second visit witnessed Cell, then the events of Vegeta and him training and getting stronger and the Cell games, lead to him returning and killing Cell

I like the idea that after Future Trunks' timeline got erased, he and Mai could live in Cell's timeline.

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I think after losing his son, Bulma will never let it go like that, she will search for some solution so I think she will come up with the plan to go on new names and get the dragon ball

There is a fan made story/manga that tells you what happens if Cell won but from Trunks' timelines point of view called Dragon Ball New Hope, don't think the original timeline events would be too much different

Nice video, but I've still got unanswered questions on this topic, like for example who created Future Trunks' timeline? Because the original timeline was the one that Cell came from, where he killed that Trunks. But what about the Future Trunks that went out to Super? What event caused that timeline?

I've heard people talk about a possible 5th timeline. When cell is recounting the different cells in his makeup he mentions a future trunks from his timeline that managed to beat frieza & KC but they didn't need more saiyan dna from him. This is weird because it should have been goku beating them in cell's timeline and it kinda brings into question how that timeline turned out so bad. It's likely a plothole, but technically it would make this "timeline 5" where this random version of trunks is from the true "original timeline".

It's sad if you think about it the time-line were goku died from the heart virus is the goku we followed since he was a baby. But i don't know if that time-line is still around considering the fact that zeno was planning to erase low leveled universes.

I'd actually always thought the dead Trunks was a mistake in the series. And it's shown again with Super and the Time Rings. There are 3 rings. One for the original timeline, one for the timeline Trunks created, and then one for the timeline that Zamasu created. So where is the ring for the reality where Trunks died? So there should be a 4th ring for the timeline Cell created after killing his version of Trunks. I'll argue this even further by saying that there are 3 Trunkses in the series. The one that came back in time, the one in our timeline, and then the dead Trunks. And then even further proof; Future Trunks goes back to his original timeline and kills cell in that timeline. So there are also 3 cells. The Cell in Gero's lab in our timeline that they kill before it is born, the Cell who killed the 3rd Trunks who came back, became perfect and was defeated by Gohan, and then Future Cell from the same timeline as Future Trunks, who dies in his Imperfect Stage. In conclusion, there are actually 4 timelines, 3 Trunkses and 3 cells, and Toriyama just never, ever addressed the Dead Trunks/Perfect Cell timeline ever again. It just vanished

Every time someone made a new timeline, Gero added another sub-basement lab to build another set of androids.

How different would the history of trunks timeline have been if Goten was there? Toriyama probably didn’t think of him yet but looking at it goten had to have been conceived around 3 months after Frieza’s arrival since he is about a year younger. The only reason why he wouldnt exist is that agony died with 3months after Frieza arriving. More so, the androids won’t appear for another 2 years therefore goten would be 2 and trunks 3 assuming holy didn’t die 3 months after Friezas arrival.

Never understood how gero wouldve added trunks' dna to cell when cell comes from the original timeline where trunks never went back

If I'm not mistaken, Cell set the time machine for a few years earlier because he had to revert into an egg to fit inside the time machine, and those years would allow him to evolve back to his full body right around the time where the Androids were created/activated. The timelines are in fact much easier to explain: TM1 - Goku dies from the heart disease, the androids kill the Z fighters except for Gohan and Trunks, Gohan eventually dies fighting the androids, future Trunks travels twice to the past, first to give Goku the medicine (in TM3), then to help the Z fighters against the androids (again in TM3), then returns to the future to kill the androids and Cell. TM2 - Very similar to TM1, except that the androids were killed by Gohan and/or Trunks in this timeline, so Cell killed Trunks so he can use his time machine to travel to the past (in TM3). TM3 - exactly how we saw in the anime: Trunks arrives from TM1 to give Goku the medicine, and Cell arrives from TM2 a few years earlier to evolve from egg to humanoid, right around the time where the androids were activated.

Ironically Cell's Timeline is the most peaceful timeline. Frieza is dead. The heroes are dead. Trunks is killed by Cell. Cell leaves to a time before trunks was supposed to give the Z fighters the shut down switch Blueprints. There are no high power levels to check for on Earth to revive Fat Buu. I'm pretty sure the multiverse is safe since there is no reason for Zamasu to start project Zero Mortals. Sure universe 7 at some point or another will probably get wrecked by someone behind the scenes unless Yajirobe and Mai can talk to Bulma to find a way to contact New Namek to use their Dragon Balls. But there is only a slim chance that someone in universe 7 can cause enough problems to get the attention of the Kais in the first place. At least the heroes who died in battle can ask King Kai to check on things by using his powers at least once a week or month for every year. I mean come on don't heroes who die in battle get the privilege to train and speak to King Kai but can also check on the state of Universe 7?

I think how the kakarot history of trunks dlc also has trunks deal with the dabora and babidi and that stuff is how I choose to think that happens in his timeline. It was a neat little non canon part that I thought really worked.

I swear I already watched this one.

The Dragon balls cannot wish anyone back that died over a year beforehand. None of the characters could be wished back, and that is something that's never been retconned by any of the Dragon balls as far as I can remember including the namekian ones.

NGL, I actually need a graph explaining how the timelines branch and when do characters go back and so on, becouse I didn't know the time traveling shennanigans had this much complexity.

Wait A minute I completely forgot about cells, timeline why didn’t they send future trunks to that timeline that we never saw instead of the timeline where he was sent and now he’s just a duplicate it would’ve made way more sense to have sent him to a timeline where he had already died.

Lovely

"i'll do a whole video explaining time travel in the future" laughingstock media confirmed for time traveler??

I believe cell had human dna from krillin and tien. Krillin and Tien were 2 of the strongest beings on earth with both being stronger than vegeta was when his dna was first gathered (which was the saiyan saga) during the time frieza’s and cold’s dna was gathered. It just strength wise would make more sense. I also think the trunks from the timeline cell is from had a remote and hadn’t trained because if he had trained cell would not have been as dismissive of vegeta grade 2. He would have known this as the power trunks possessed as he could sense and had been watching trunks he killed.

So uh I remember Super had like 5 or 6 rings for the timelines. So 1: OG timeline, 2: timeline og timeline trunks saved, 3: main timeline and 4: trunks timeline ver 2 which gets erased later, 5: GT timeline? Since this is at a moment when they claimed there was no new time rings that had appeared unless it was still somehow the timeline Zamasu created by stealing Goku's body and travelling to future. So that's like 5 or 6 canon timelines and then there is Trunks timeline version 3 that Whis created. Including that its 6-7 canon timelines. I dun remember if they added a 7th ring to the box or a 6th. If 6th that would mean after all that GT ain't canon whatsoever.

You should do a what if with Majin Androids. With no Z-Fighters left, Babidi would have to control 17 & 18 and use their infinite energy to slowly power Buu's sphere.

LMFAO omg !! I never thought of Cell creating a loop of sucking up more androids going back in time 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 like becoming super dee duper perfect cell?

So Gero built the androids to hunt down Goku. But with Goku dead, Gohan is the next best choice for his revenge. But the Androids went rogue and killed him and wanted to turn Earth into their playground since they were completely free to do whatever they wanted. What if there was a timeline where the Androids killed Trunks? Then Cell Absorbs them? Cell could replace Frieza as Beerus' destroyer candidate since he had Frieza do his job for him while he slept. And if Cell refuses, he gets Hakai'd.

All timelines except the main one are doomed. Either buu awakens and runs riot, or Moro breaks out of prison and goes planet hopping, or Zeno decides there are too many universes like in the manga and wipes out the lower ranked ones.

Mike you should On ironically cover how the legend of Zelda timeline works in lol.

yes

I wish there was a cannon part where he dyed his hair purple to help hide his identity instead of it just being an error

The fan manga Dragon Ball Multiverse explored a scenario where Cell didn't exist during the android saga > ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4fmJdZGbLMM.html

Cell saga is the epitome of "Dont think about it" Its actually terribly written but the highs are so high that people give it a pass

The whole concept and overall vibe of time travel is so dark, sad and serious.. This entire arc was easily the best of DBZ

Trunks didn’t go super Sayian until after Gohan died

They Never Explained why Trunks and Bulma Never Looked for New Namek and Used their Dragon Balls to Wish Everyone Back to Life.

one question, i don't know if you already talk about, but majinbu in the original timeline? we don't have any info about it (leaving the fact that majinbu was created later by toryama))

They should have a cell come back from another dimension and finding a doctor to give him upgrades..

I had thought about this at one point but didn't think about it again until I started seeing videos of that "original" timeline. As far as the question of what happened after "original" timeline - Bulma contacting the new planet Namek? Unlikely. That timeline is actually depressing to think about lol. The end of Cell is the spiritual ending for me, so I don't even entertain the other ideas. My only thought is that Bulma just took whoever was alive and rebuilt.

The whole thing is kind of a contradiction. Once Trunks left his original timeline where everyone was dead, there should have been no way for him to get back. After defeating Perfect Cell, going into the future would have been the future of that timeline. Not sure why this is never gotten right in movies and shows.

We were following the same timeline since the beginning. We never saw the "original" timeline. In that sense, Trunk is the only one from the first timeline, and all of the cast is from the "newest" one

i like to believe bulma went to new namek and revived everyone

Base form cell was such a bad ass and intimidating character.

so the one thing I am curious about... with Goku dead before the android even appeared, Vegeta supposedly not having ssj, and everyone weaker because they weren't warned about the androids coming... who killed android 20 and forced Gero to awaken 17 and 18? or maybe 20 never existed, goku was long dead so Gero didn't need to continue making androids. 16 didn't exist in the future so maybe he started scrapping them now that goku was dead and during that process activated 17 and 18. pure head canon but I've always wondered what kick started the events in the original timeline. I also imagine that first City got destroyed and they learn about it afterwards. without Trunks warning they wouldn't be there and no energy from the androids would mean they couldn't intervene.

7:06 Right here is where I was always lost as a kid lol. I just gave up and started running with it at this point. I still don't FULLY grasp this part of DBZ time travel 7:41

I'm a little confused. I would really like your video explaining all the time lines and all the versions of Cell and Trunks. I've seen others' videos on this subject, but they still weren't very clear. A diagram showing all the versions of both of them would really help to clear this all up once and for all.

15:50 He Didint Traveled To Cell-TimeLine Because Beerus Was Still Alive, Opposed To Trunks-TimeLine Where Shin Was Died During The Battle Against Babidi And Dabura

The most important we should be asking is where is launch in all these timelines?

Finally … a lot of confusion about this topic especailly with newer fans

Technically That Isnt The "Original TimeLine" But The One That Gowazu/Zamazu Mentions Since It Predates The Cell TineLine By Almost 1000 Years

I really need to know if before Super. Where there just 4 timelines, or 5. For the longest Time I thought there were just 4 timelines. Main, Cell, Unseen, and trunks. But recently I've seen some people come out with a 5 timeline theory. (I think Plague of Gripes was one of the guys with a 5 timeline theory but I've seen others.) So, which is it. And what's the main difference between 5 timeline theory and 4 timeline theory.