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What Happened To Atomic Amps? 

Ben Fletcher
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A company that makes some fantastic products seems to have disappeared from shops. (certainly in England anyway)
I'm looking for information if anybody has any to give. Please post below and hopefully other people scouring the internet with the same question shall have the answer they seek. Thanks, Ben.

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@trondulseth
@trondulseth Год назад
Seems the Firebox MkII is back in stock, and Tom chimed in on Facebook saying: As I’ve posted in a few other places, the last couple of years have been rough for Atomic. Fortunately, we’re turning a corner and there are some very exciting things happening. We are just about to start beta testing the first of a couple of firmware updates. I look forward to sharing more in the coming weeks.
@BenFletcherGuitar
@BenFletcherGuitar Год назад
I'm not seeing them on a Google search available to buy from stores in the UK just yet, but that's great and thanks for posting this comment. I'll pin it. Cheers, mate.
@trondulseth
@trondulseth Год назад
@@BenFletcherGuitar they where announcing them back in stock and had Black Friday offers. But maybe they only sell them directly from their own website now?
@BenFletcherGuitar
@BenFletcherGuitar Год назад
@@trondulseth Yeh I was thinking that. They wouldn't have to guarantee a certain amount of stock that way. Probably not a bad idea. I think you'd sell fewer products over-all, but your overheads would be less too.
@JasonWright-mc6dz
@JasonWright-mc6dz 4 месяца назад
It’s unfortunate, The only products remaining are the updated Ampli-firebox mkII & The Bass Box.. They were really at the forefront of the digital modeling wave (Pre-Helix/Iridium/Boss IR-200/Neural Dsp etc..) & their fantastic powered monitor/FRFR speaker systems & larger format Amplifire 6 & 12 modeler’s were amazing and ahead of their time. I owned one of the red 4 footswitch Amplifire 6’s awhile back which I sold and replaced w/an Amplifire-Box more my speed ( I’m really not the custom IR, 50+ preset type). I imagine it became extremely difficult to keep up with the volume from Line 6/Boss/Axe-Fx/Kemper/Neural/Strymon to Headrush/Mooer/Joyo/Nux etc.. despite their proven solid reputation..
@BenFletcherGuitar
@BenFletcherGuitar 4 месяца назад
Yes. I've been using the one in this video right up until now, but after 140 gigs a year for however many years I've used it, I seem to have broken the power input and it's creating a bunch of issues. Real pity, because I still enjoy the sound and wouldn't change if I didn't have to. The Tonocracy software is the new direction for Atomic. I would imagine hardware might follow, but Tonex are at the forefront of affordable machine modelling right now, so they're gunna have get on it soon otherwise people will be in that ecosystem. I think Atomic also lack the marketing budget to be competitive with the likes of Strymon. It's a pity because the Firebox in my opinion, had the edge over the Iridium, which didn't really do it for me. Thanks for the comment, Ben.
@michaelhuntley353
@michaelhuntley353 Год назад
Great playing and great tone brother! Thanks for that! I run an AmpliFire 12 that I upgraded to early on from their smaller 2 button box form. One of the most versatile home, recording and travel rigs I’ve used. I would absolutely get another should this one get gone somehow.
@BenFletcherGuitar
@BenFletcherGuitar Год назад
Thank you! The Atomic stuff really is underrated in terms of the sound. I think there were a couple of less than stellar demos on some popular channels early on that did them no favours and people started to look down on them. I still like mine and use it for pretty much 90% of my gigs. Hopefully they'll be back in shops in the future here in the UK. The 12 looks like a beast by the way. Great bit of kit that.
@Ameller48
@Ameller48 Год назад
something amazing about the Atomic is that it has no DSP limit, you can literally leave everything on, but you can't use more than one Drive, technically you can only use 1 effect of each that it offers you in the chain, it's kind of fair but very wide since it offers you up to 3 specific EQ settings and a general one. Apart from a thousand extra things, I think that this is something very innovative for its time. However it's still something I don't like as I would like to be at home and do crazy things like in an HX and be able to mix fuzz + Drives + chorus and make crazy sounds hahaha.
@BenFletcherGuitar
@BenFletcherGuitar Год назад
Making crazy sounds is fun! I didn't know that about the DSP, but then I doubt the type of sounds I use would be too much trouble for any modelling platform. I think this particular Atomic product is a really great simple all in one unit and the effect tweak on the version 2 would be a huge bonus. I don't think it would be that useful by itself if you were in to ambient or abstract type stuff, there's just not that many things to mess with. I'm still not really hearing straight up better sounds though, I really like the basic tones in the Amplifirebox. I agree about the EQ, there are plenty of options in there to suit most people, not to mention the ability to load an IR and change the EQ substantially that way.
@ArmandoVegaTV
@ArmandoVegaTV Год назад
It's crazy Ben. I just scored the Atomic-Firebox for replace my Helix Floor. It's not new, came from a friend. But I would have gladly purchased the new one. Just really hesitant because the company literally went dark.
@BenFletcherGuitar
@BenFletcherGuitar Год назад
I'm sure other people are of the same mind and would more likely buy something, when they're sure things like apps etc are likely to be supported for longer. It's a pity my video's like this one (very niche) don't get more reach, because I might have been able to stir up an answer. Have fun with the new toy!
@ArmandoVegaTV
@ArmandoVegaTV Год назад
@@BenFletcherGuitar Very true. It's not just about the box when it comes to this kind of evolving tech. You need support and updates, or it will die. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on RU-vid, I found your video with organic search. Good luck with all!
@BenFletcherGuitar
@BenFletcherGuitar Год назад
@@ArmandoVegaTV Exactly that. I actually made another video that nobody saw (ha!) about something very similar to this issue, but with an ecological spin on it. Basically saying that we create vast amounts of waste hardware when the software is no longer compatible. It's here, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-03KvEOZEIHQ.html if you're interested. That's good to know about the reach, thanks, for your comment, always appreciated. Ben.
@ArmandoVegaTV
@ArmandoVegaTV Год назад
@@BenFletcherGuitar What a great topic. I'll check it out at lunch today. I shared your other two videos with friends that have the Ampli-fire Box. They also enjoyed it.
@BenFletcherGuitar
@BenFletcherGuitar Год назад
@@ArmandoVegaTV Thanks man, much appreciated!
@georgebarry8640
@georgebarry8640 8 месяцев назад
I'e used the firebox..and was VERY impressed. It wasn't as usable live as I liked (only 2 footswitches) so i returned it within a week or two..no hassle return from the company direct. Jace was the support guy..and he made it easy. I hope Tom King stays in the game...if it comes down to quality...there's no one near him at this price point.
@BenFletcherGuitar
@BenFletcherGuitar 8 месяцев назад
Interestingly they're doing machine modelling now (like NAM or Kemper), software based at the moment it seems. They do make great sounding products and I feel like their stuff got a bit over-looked. I can totally understand wanting a bit more flexibility than this though. For me I only need two sounds, clean and dirty, but I pair it with external effects since there's nothing you can do to change the internal settings on a gig. Anyway, good news is they're still around and working on new things.
@Scott__C
@Scott__C Год назад
The 6 and 12 seem to not be sold out still. Hoping there's a new version coming out because I think they don't get enough attention. To me, the sounds are as good as anything else.
@BenFletcherGuitar
@BenFletcherGuitar Год назад
Interesting. I liked the compact form factor of this model and agree the sounds stand up well. I believe most things are available direct from their website including the new version of this one. I hope they recover, or maybe they're happy with the new business model, it might work better for them? Cheers, Ben.
@kentGrey
@kentGrey 4 месяца назад
From what I've seen Atomic is having a lot more problems than just getting on the shelves. As of about 6 months ago people started reporting problems with getting refunds. They were also not getting responses to calls or emails. Only way one RU-vidr got his refund was by threatening to take them to court. Others report almost a year waiting for refunds to no avail. If I were going to guess what the issue is, it would be that Rob Chapman is now "involved". I'll leave it to all of you to research all the dastardly things he's done. The list is way too long to list here.
@christianwalsh7082
@christianwalsh7082 2 года назад
No idea. Happy to help haha
@BenFletcherGuitar
@BenFletcherGuitar 2 года назад
Cheers, mate. I knew I could count on you!
@bentlight04
@bentlight04 10 месяцев назад
I’d like to know too. I can’t get in contact with Tom King for “support “ . I’ve emailed him numerous times
@BenFletcherGuitar
@BenFletcherGuitar 10 месяцев назад
They're back and they've been developing a software modelling and capture system. It got released about two weeks ago. It's called Tonocracy. I haven't checked it out yet.
@bentlight04
@bentlight04 10 месяцев назад
@@BenFletcherGuitar ok awesome. Thanks for the reply
@BenFletcherGuitar
@BenFletcherGuitar 10 месяцев назад
@@bentlight04 No worries.
@graemero5532
@graemero5532 2 года назад
I know nothing about Atomic and a great many other things. 🤔 Had my new Quilter Aviator Cub about a week now and it's frickin awesome. 😁 Well chuffed. 😁
@BenFletcherGuitar
@BenFletcherGuitar 2 года назад
I also know very little about a great many things, but Google usually has the answer! The Aviator looks killer. I like the simplicity. Particularly that they've assigned an input for each of the voicings. That's a neat way of doing it and very much plays in to that video I made the other week about not needing an app for the hardware. Also like the top mounted effects loop. I wish more companies did that, it just makes sense. Like you said, solid state makes more sense if you're not playing loud too, because frankly unless you use some kind of attenuator, valve has to be at a pretty unreasonable volume before it starts to soften up a bit. I've got my valve amp on ebay right now, chancing it with the price a bit, but hoping to buy an extra few minutes electricity with it...haha!
@graemero5532
@graemero5532 2 года назад
@@BenFletcherGuitar Also picked up a "Y cable adapter" so I can mix the three voices. Although I have only tried that once, I am living on the "tweed" voice right now. Using the gain & limiter knobs in conjunction to control rasp/grit is great too. As i said, Chuffed 😊 Not even felt the need to put a pedal into it, just guitar, lead, amp, joy 😊
@BenFletcherGuitar
@BenFletcherGuitar 2 года назад
@@graemero5532 Manual amp blending, that's a neat feature. I wonder if there's a way you could use a volume pedal or something to alter how much of each amp you wanted blended? That could be interesting. I could live without lots of things, but delay...I don't know. I went cold turkey on compression a year or so ago and I don't think I could go through that hell again!
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