What Happened to Balin's Expedition in Moria?

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In the halls of Moria, Balin’s expedition found wealth and success for a time, but it eventually came to a mysterious end. This video endeavours to explore the expedition and answer the questions about it. Thank you all so much for watching, let me know your thoughts about Balin’s expedition in the comments below! As always, a great thanks to the online artists whose visual works made this video possible! If you are one of the artists, please let me know and I will post your name and a link to your work in this description!
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@dannyhuskerjay 4 года назад

“Drums in the deep. We cannot get out, A shadow moves in the dark. We cannot get out. They are coming”! This still gives me chills

@Shatter149 4 года назад

then pippen started making noises.

@dannyhuskerjay 4 года назад

werewarwolf3366 I do prefer the movie noise of the fool lol. It was an accident not him just throwing shit down a well xD

@Ammoguy1 4 года назад

@@Shatter149 Fool of a Took!

@davidknight2104 4 года назад

Yeh it was awesome the fellowship of the ring is a perfect film for me it has everything

@Laki99000 4 года назад

Movie adaptation of Moria was perfect. It always gives me chills.

@RyuFatedWarrior 4 года назад

Never venture into high-level dungeons without putting in the appropriate grind.

@nightsong81 4 года назад

I mean, he helped take down a dragon. He definitely got a lot of XP and some high level gear out of that. He had no idea there was a max level raid boss waiting in there.

@fartkerson 4 года назад

Even guilds with high-level dungeon gear and experience wipe. These guys were playing on hardcore, so even one wipe and they would never be able to attempt the dungeon ever again. Imagine if every high-level dungeon could only be attempted once... There's no video game comparison for Balin's expedition to Moria, because it would be the worst, most frustrating game ever designed. At least in a rogue-like you can start over. Balin's dead. He's not rerolling shit.

@TheVergile 4 года назад

nah, he was well prepared. only mistake was to play first edition

@bjornerlendur4606 4 года назад

@@nightsong81 he didnt get a lot of xp due to raid penalty

@bjornerlendur4606 4 года назад

@@TheVergile yeah it was bugged. They patched it later

@orrointhewise87 4 года назад

"Moria.....you fear to go into those mines. The dwarves delve too greedily You know what they awoke in the darkness of Khazad-dum... Shadow and Flame" I was so sad when I first found out it was Balin's tomb, he was my favorite dwarf in the Hobbit 😭😭😭

@samueldoesthings5108 4 года назад

Yeah its really sad but in the long run it helped out the future dwarves

@marionbaggins 4 года назад

I love Balin Too!!!

@orrointhewise87 4 года назад

@@marionbaggins RIGHT?!?!

@marionbaggins 4 года назад

@@orrointhewise87 Right Hurtful in many ways!!!

@orrointhewise87 4 года назад

@@marionbaggins 😭 Yup My favorite memory of Balin is at the end of the Hobbit when he, Bilbo, and Gandalf were just smoking in Bagend and being friends again Good times 🥰

@saptsagn3697 4 года назад

It must have been really terrifying to live in a colony of Dwarves in Moria, knowing that there were thousands of orcs along with the Watcher in the water and Durin's bane lurking in the shadows....

@Cuban20 2 года назад

Pure insanity more like it. This is the Dwarf version of the Lost Colony at Roanoke

@leah_goldman4299 2 года назад

To be fair even Gandalf thought there was a chance that the Dwarves had been successful and that most of the orcs had been destroyed or scattered after the Battle of Five Armies. But yet...Durin's Bane was a detail that Balin definitely should not have overlooked to say the least!

@TiCFe 4 года назад

I love how tragic and yet inspiring Tolkien's writing is. Though Balin, emboldened by his previous success, undertook a doomed quest, in time the quest he failed was completed by another. It's a nice thought that even when we fail it may lay the ground work for others to succeed.

@RW77777777 4 года назад

I'm a great wingman at the bar

@thevoidlookspretty7079 4 года назад

The Moria situation was one of the most terrifying things I’ve ever read.

@thefremddingeguy6058 4 года назад

I know, and you even feel a connection with some of these dwarves from the Hobbit. What a tragedy....

@thevoidlookspretty7079 4 года назад

The Fremd Dinge Guy No, for me, it was more of the drumming and the dread it out over Frodo but nobody else.

@kirstyfernandes1421 3 года назад

For me, Shelob’s Lair and the Spiders Nest in The Hobbit terrified me - Moria was more panic than fear, it made me anxious.

@NordicJarl27 3 года назад

Is this in the book? If so can you tell me. I'm not that much familiar with the books but I would very much like to read them. I'm also curious about the moria expedition and what happened

@thevoidlookspretty7079 3 года назад

Alphawolfpack101 The Moria expedition was Balin and several dwarves from *The Hobbit* leaving Erebor to retake Moria, the dwarves kingdom that was taken by orcs a couple centuries back. The tale was recounted in *Fellowship*, and is given a lot of detail. The part that spooked me was before that when Frodo could hear a drum for three days but didn’t know what it was and couldn’t do anything about it.

@Humanlink1 4 года назад

Seems the Dwarfs of Middle Earth could never seem to hold on to a place that would seem defensable for long... To be fair a Dragon and a Balrog is poor luck.

@TheVergile 4 года назад

well, compared to the other old races they werent doing too bad. But their numbers had been waning for a long time and they just couldnt keep a homestead as big as moria against any sizable opposition. many dwarven settlements were held much longer than most human or elven ones

@Matteus733 4 года назад

@kirstyfernandes1421 4 года назад

To be fair, Moria was extremely hard to protect and with all the levels, floors, rooms, passages and ways in and out, both made by dwarfs and by Orcs/goblins/trolls over time, it would have been almost impossible to secure the entire place, with the numbers they had. Erebor is similar, it was too vast, with the number of dwarfs they had to protect it, though I do believe that due to Dain’s help and the people of Laketown, along with the Beornings, the dwarfs were able to hold onto it during the War of the Rings.

@allewis4008 4 года назад

Well, sort of. The Dwarves were excellently fortified in the Iron Hills, so much so, the good races were worried the Dwarves were just going to sit the War of the Ring out. Historically, they were in a slow, but steady decline, losing capitals to monsters and the relentless orc invasion.

@kirstyfernandes1421 4 года назад

Al Lewis That seems like it was happening everywhere, Sauron was throwing so many Orcs and goblins and monsters at the strongholds of Men, Elves and Dwarves, that they were all too overwhelmed to help each other. Moria fell because it became overrun with Goblins, Trolls and the Balrog, plus the Watcher in the Water blocked an escape route, Theoden almost didn’t send help to Gondor because of the constant attacks and raids in Rohan by both Saruman and Sauron and the constant flow of overrun of foul creatures and Orcs and fighting in Osgiliath caused Gondor to have to abandon defending it. Even with the powerful magic and skill of the Elven rings of Elrond and Galadriel, Rivendell and Lothlorien were constantly under attack - that is why they were “safe zones” on the journey to rest, but the Ring couldn’t stay there. They were only barely handling their own defences at that moment - Rivendell being only slightly less often attacked, due to it being so far North - they could never handle the onslaught that would occur, if Sauron found out the Ring was there, and without the Ring’s destruction, Sauron would just keep throwing things at them to wear them down, until they were too exhausted and had no magic or Elves left to fight with. And with Saruman no longer blocking Sauron at the Gap of Rohan, it is only a matter of time, before Orcs flooded the North. The ONLY reason that the Hobbits remained as obvious and as peaceful for so long, is because of the Dunedain/Rangers who are the most badass elite fighting group, but even they would only be able to hold off so many for so long, before the Orcs broke through and just murdered the defenceless Hobbits. Sure, the Breelands with the Brandybucks and Tooks might give them a fight, but not by much.

@hannah.lindseyy 4 года назад

I have so many friends who can't stand Tolkien's writing style but they fail to notice that Tolkien was not an author, he was a scholar and his academic style of writing proves that. I am in love with world-building and I feel like Tolkien was the ultimate world-builder.

@couchpotatoe91 4 года назад

I feel the same about George R. R. Martin's writing: People I know mention how dull his writing is compared to other authors when I hand them the book. It's not about that though, it's about the story of the world he's telling.

@nickdentoom1173 4 года назад

World building is arguably more important than the story and writing style.

@TheMicahRussell 4 года назад

I highly recommend Steven Erikson

@gagewireman7298 4 года назад

Even with his more academic style though his poetry and prose can still be beautiful, I got chills the first time I heard the One Rings transcription

@Summersong2262 4 года назад

And yet he chose to present his woolgathering in the form of a fictional novel. Of course he wasn't an author, and his prose and general readability suffered for it. He didn't feel compelled to engage with the reader as a reader.

@mandos8600 4 года назад

"Drums, Drums in the deep" gives me the chills

@bjornerlendur4606 4 года назад

Not me, I hear them every friday because someone decided to open a drumming school right next to the shop.

@bjornerlendur4606 4 года назад

@Mischievous MaleFox was even more chilly in the book

@whynottalklikeapirat 3 года назад

Makes me wanna BOOGIE DOWN!

@esprsjsalvz 4 года назад

"Drums in the deep" I've always been amazed at how he was able to write such epic passages.

@Musicsalife 4 года назад

The best part of Tolkien’s writings is the fact that he built a universe with so much history and background to the point that he even had languages for the differant races. Reading his stories you can’t just put the book down because he’s protagonists are shown with faults thus you can relate to how each character is developing through out the story while at the same time wondering how they will overcome each obstacle. Tolkien put so much effort and thought into his works one can’t help but admire his passion and love of writing. Also I love the videos watch them every Sunday when I get that notification.

@8mmkyle865 4 года назад

He honestly wrote the Hobbit and Lotr just to give his world a story! He fiddled with creating a language of his own when he was young (which was the elvish language) and then over the years he kept adding lore and lore. And then one day the idea of the Hobbit came into his head while he was grading papers and he was outlining the story on a student's test! lol

@fantasywind3923 4 года назад

Indeed the complex and grand lore behind this all, language construction etymologies etc., writing systems, but even more amazing is Tolkien's dedication to making his work, which is beyond anything,... you haven't seen anything yet :) just look at that: ""Reluctantly...I had to abandon, under pressure from the 'production department', the 'facsimiles' of the three pages of the Book of Mazarbul, burned tattered and blood-stained, which I had spend much time on producing or forging." Now THAT'S incredible Tolkien making actual physical pages of the Book of Mazarbul (apparently he also did other such works like the letter of Aragorn as king to Samwise and a piece of Bilbo's contract/letter from the Dwarves :). Tolkien even liked drawing scenes from his books, my favorite image he drew was 'Bilbo coming to the huts of raft-elves', very nice artwork by author himself :).

@hughgedney3393 4 года назад

Amen.

@trequor 4 года назад

The language thing is quite unique to Tolkien. Many fantasy authors have tried to replicate it, but with little success. Tolkien was a trained linguist. He studied linguistics for decades and was uniquely qualified to build realistic languages for his fantasy setting

@rittherugger160 4 года назад

Tolkien would make a better DM than even Matt Mercer.

@onlyonewhyphy 4 года назад

The Silmarillion is easily my favourite part Tolkien's work. The stories span so much time and almost always achingly tragic, it's like looking at all the damage and corruption that came before and wondering how it ever be fixed. In fact it couldn't be, and it is a tragic tale, but through out there's tales of heroes and love... but those all end in tragedy too. But it only carries all of its weight because of The Hobbit & Lord of the Rings.

@MenoftheWest 4 года назад

Hey everyone, thank you all so much for the kind and inspiring comments! You all have really mentioned some incredible things about Tolkien's works, and I wish I had more rings to give out! More giveaways will come in the future, and the window of time to enter will be extended with those giveaways! The winner of the giveaway has been chosen, chevin0! They have 24 hours to contact me before I choose another winner! Once again, thank you all so much. I love you all and I'll see you in the next video!

@JohnRutherford205 4 года назад

@Matt R Oh, I definitely second this.

@hudsonball4702 4 года назад

But... but... I only just got the notification of this video 20 minutes ago....

@MenoftheWest 4 года назад

Hudson Ball Oh dang, I’m sorry about that. Not sure why the notification took that long! But still feel free to comment with your answer and I’ll consider it if our winner does not reply within 24 hours! I appreciate ya!

@Feanor_1169 4 года назад

@@hudsonball4702 Same here...

@aaronmatthew7862 4 года назад

That really sucks. I was excited for a chance to win and then feel I got jipped. An hour only? Really? Guess we better not have a life and better sit here refreshing RU-vid just in case. Never mind that my two year old daughter has been in the hospital all week for surgery.

@MrApongAce 4 года назад

My favorite thing about Tolkien’s works is the lesson that we learn from them. I love how you wrap up every video with a moral or lesson to the story.

@samueldoesthings5108 4 года назад

Yes....he is a true story teller

@uncuckableAlpha 4 года назад

I like everything except for the "lesson" or "moral of the story" I appreciate the insight and research that's put into each video but I find the moral lesson to be cringe

@hughgedney3393 4 года назад

Amen.

@jamesbradleysears7188 4 года назад

Oy, if you don't get that Middle Earth Lore is *deeply* rooted in morality, you've barely paid attention.

@paulwagner688 4 года назад

Another lesson from this is that even though the expedition ended in tragedy, you don't know what the outcome will be until you attempt the endeavor. My favorite thing about Tolkien's writing is the immersiveness. You become an absolute part of the universe he creates. You feel what the characters feel. You laugh with them, you cry with them.

@warrenrobertsen2724 4 года назад

I mean, Thorin went out to reclaim Erebor with no plan at all for what to do about the dragon part and that turned out great! ;) Less facetiously, there are some big parallels between the two stories of dwarves reclaiming their homes and being rather optimistic of the result while dismissing any difficulties. I don't know if it's Tolkien knowingly writing a more "grown up" version for Moria, but it sure can be read like one. Also seems like an aspect of dwarven greed. They're going to go get what they want (in this case their old homes) damned be the other cost.

@humantrashball9521 4 года назад

It’s a fine Sunday evening when Men of the West releases a new video.

@shadowofchaos8932 4 года назад

Look forward to it every Sunday

@samueldoesthings5108 4 года назад

Yes sir

@thegreatzakhanarchive310 4 года назад

For me, very early Monday morning

@robertmaniac 4 года назад

It was the perfect way to end a sunday. But now is my perfect way to start a monday morning.

@boktai10 4 года назад

my favorite thing of anything toiken made is the actual universe revolved around how everything was created from the good, and bad, I enjoy how Tokien made my life as a kid inspired of elves, dwarves, orcs, and the likes I am humbled I get to do what I like to enjoy doing D&D related things thanks to him.

@windfish1986 4 года назад

Moria's West gate. I remember tracing by hand the door and it's runes when I was 10 years old and read The Fellowship of the Ring for the first time. I was in total awe and I can still feel that same sensation when I revisit the chapter about Moria.

@Lazarosaliths 4 года назад

Tolkien made a world in which the rest of the world builded on, games ,rpgs ,dnd, and so many movies and series!!! He is the creator!

@ghosthound17 3 года назад

He was George Lucas before George Lucas.

@LandStrider23 4 года назад

"There are older and fouler things than Orcs, in the deep places of the world"

@veralenora7368 3 года назад

Things worse than Balrogs? Yes, just rereading The Two Towers , and when Gandolf the White rejoins Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas, I imagined him shuddering as he speaks "Far, far below ... the world is gnawed at by nameless things."

@KororaPenguin 3 месяца назад

@@veralenora7368 The Watcher in the Water is believed to have been one of those nameless things that made it to the surface.

@nicolaslong7020 4 года назад

My first thought is the look on gimlis face when they first found that room.

@jegeization 4 года назад

The Balrog was not part of the orc forces. That Balrog fled and was hiding after Melkor was defeated in one of the great battles of history

@darylshields4365 4 года назад

aye son keep smoking that crack

@SirMcAwesome 4 года назад

Who said he was part of the orc forces?

@jakealter5504 4 года назад

Dan Arterer. The balrog would’ve destroyed the colony on its own

@ferro1398 4 года назад

@@SirMcAwesome "Perhaps he (referring to the Balrog) that slew..."

@chrisk.5964 4 года назад

The orcs worshipped it when they found it in the mines

@nodinitiative 4 года назад

We need a 2-3 hour spin-off movie about this.

@Itzbozo 4 года назад

naruto tricked me sry no it hasn’t

@sethmiller2534 4 года назад

Also my favorite part of Tolkien’s works is how you turn them into such beauty. I live these videos so much!

@Shatter149 4 года назад

" drums drums in the deep. " its like death is calling them. scary

@draven3838 4 года назад

It's a tragedy that he died as such and I surmise that he journeyed to reclaim moria because it's what thorin would have done

@Cloclo.darkarts 4 года назад

I'm so happy to have discovered your channel a few month ago! I love listening to your videos while I work on my demo reel. Thank you for all your research and hard work :)

@admiralnips8294 4 года назад

I can't express enough how much your love for the writings of Tolkien helps me stay true to my own passion. Thank you good friend.

@jxsiah3530 4 года назад

First my internet bad rn I’m in goblin town

@Mungo658 4 года назад

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

@jxsiah3530 4 года назад

goblins quaff and goblins beat goblins laugh and goblins bleat batter jabber whip and hammer hoooooo you go my lad ho ho my lad

@jxsiah3530 4 года назад

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@monk111100 4 года назад

They dug too deep.

@samueldoesthings5108 4 года назад

And to greedily

@TheWartechgaming 4 года назад

@@samueldoesthings5108 you know what they awoke in the darkness of Khazad-dûm

@Lowieiscool 4 года назад

@@TheWartechgaming shadow and flame...

@MrIcaru5 4 года назад

That's what my girlfriend said

@lauralassan325 4 года назад

@@Lowieiscool Let the ring bearer decide

@isaacmartinez7557 4 года назад

This is by far my favorite type of video you’ve created! So many of these “what really happened” moments in Tolkien’s work and who better to delve into it than my main man from the west!

@gregoryflannery7310 4 года назад

Great channel man I look forward to it every week super happy that this channel is around great job keep up the good work !!!👍👍👍

@horseradishroot6114 4 года назад

The most I love about Tolkien i can say are his characters in the books and the clear definition of what good is and what bad is . 🙂

@biskus 4 года назад

I love how deep the lore and world of Tolkien is. Its because of all the care, detail and depth that makes LoTR a fantasy series that stands the test of time.

@zc252 4 года назад

Excellent job! Thank you very much for making this video I'm sure that I speak for many of us out there that always wondered what exactly happened the Balin and his company thank you very much for your detail and your work.

@randyrice7090 4 года назад

Like this new series, hope your do more on it. Been reading Tolkein since I was a kid. I've always enjoyed how many stories like this are in his works- unfinished adventures that allow the reader to wonder about something unrelated to the main story, adding depth to the worksheet created. Keep up the great work Yoysten!

@MenoftheWest 4 года назад

Hey everyone, I really hope you all enjoyed the video! I wanted to address this here since I keep seeing comments about it. From what I can tell in Tolkien’s works, the diphthong “ai” typically makes an “eye” sound, so “Dúnedain” would be pronounced “Dune-eh-dine” and “Dáin” would be “dine”. As for “Óin” and “Glóin” there are competing theories about whether they are pronounced “glow-in” and “oh-in” or some variation of that, as “oi” typically makes an “oy” sound in Tolkien’s works. I’ll try to keep improving my pronunciations as much as I can! www.reddit.com/r/tolkienfans/comments/3vhqai/how_do_you_pronounce_oin_and_gloin/ Thank you for the support!

@ClarinoI 4 года назад

Actually, you have to remember that the languages being used are different. In Khuzdul (the Dwarves' language) the Name Dáin isn't pronounced Dane or Dine, the name would be pronounced Day-in or more probably (due to the accent above the a) Dah-in. Dunedain is a Sindarin word, not Khuzdul, so different language conventions apply.

@glen4867 4 года назад

My favorite thing about Tolkien's works is the fact that he was a linguist writing an amazing story rather than an author trying to write an amazing story. I think his works are so great because his words can move people, paint pictures in your mind, and make it feel like an actual history rather than just another story.

@corruptangel6793 4 года назад

I get chills thinking about what Balin's company must've felt in their final days. A sense of dispair and terror, but also a sense of pride to die within such a grand place. I can only imagine how ferociously they must've fought.

@sid2112 4 года назад

One of the few channels I'll upvote right up front. Great work dude.

@davide9414 4 года назад

I love Tolkien, because his work allows me to fly to another reality, when I'm sick of this one, and I long for simpler and yet more epic times

@veralenora7368 3 года назад

2019: How do you feel now? The world is in plague, democracy is both threatened and sought throughout the world, vast populations move from danger to hope. These are EPIC TIMES. As for simpler, Tolkien's world was not simple, but there is always the simplicity of knowing and doing what is right, whether in his world or in ours. Be a hero worthy of Tolkien's vision.

@mavajgrt 4 года назад

My favorite thing about Tolkien’s work are the hope they inspire, how even when it seems the world is against you it will all work out if you keep fighting.

@UltramanExplained 3 года назад

Just found this channel and absolutely love it! Thank you for creating it, and, Your amazing work. It's an inspiration.

@theD1STURBEDone 4 года назад

Love this channel. Always great quality content. Keep up the great work!👍🏼

@chevin0 4 года назад

I always love these videos. Mondays are bad, but these start it off right! I think the thing i like best about these stories is the sense of ancient history, and characters (mostly Elves) who witnessed it. like how at the Council of Elrond, they probably met Elves who had seen every one of he runs they visited before and after, but had seen them in their glory. Minas Morgul to the Hobbits is just a place of evil, but to Elrond, he would remember Minas Ithil, not that long ago for him. It always just fascinates me to have young characters feel fear, where the Wise look at a place and feel sadness for what was.

@MenoftheWest 4 года назад

Hey chiven0, thanks for the support and the really wonderful comment! I see exactly what you mean and it is quite incredible to think about the history of Middle-earth and its places through the eyes and minds of different characters. You have won the giveaway! Please contact me on Facebook, Twitter or through email within the next 24 hours with the info listed in the video and description, and I will get you your ring. Thanks! Talk to you soon!

@chevin0 4 года назад

@@MenoftheWest oh sweet, thank you!!

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@riggs105 4 года назад

The art work compliments the analysis so well. Very polished channel you've got here! Lord of the rings lore and mythology is amazing. Great work mate!

@MenoftheWest 4 года назад

Thanks Lee, I really appreciate that, my friend!

@riggs105 4 года назад

Your efforts to bring the mystique and uniqueness of Tolkiens work is highly appreciated and again, top class videos and commentary mate!

@chuck-n-debtaylor7553 4 года назад

Thank you for your in-depth study, and your comprehensive and artful presentations!

@DanielNostalgicBitz 4 года назад

I love your videos i always look forward for the next one i enjoy ur in depth looks and just everything great job keep em coming and il keep on watching and supporting 👌🏼😁

@vampiregirl258 4 года назад

My favorite thing about Mr.Tolkien's work, would have to be that he changed the world of fantasy forever. Not only did he bring new life to it, but he also inspired authors like me to continue his great work. I believe he is the reason we still have fantasy stories in our world today. I want to be a great writer like him someday, but I know I will never surpass him. No one can, and that is what makes his world legendary.

@IronDragon-2143 4 года назад

Obviously Balin made a poor decision going back to Moria.

@samueldoesthings5108 4 года назад

100%

@BenFrayle 4 года назад

Easy to say with the benefit of hindsight. It was far less risky than the expedition to Erebor. There was enormous wealth and an opportunity to resume Dwarven influence in the area.

@IronDragon-2143 4 года назад

@@BenFrayle That is true. Balin couldn't have known about either Durin's Bane or Sauron's return.

@treydixon5399 4 года назад

@@IronDragon-2143 It's been a while, but if I remember Gloin's telling of the tale, there were whispers and suggestions encouraging Balin, too. As if the subtle hand of the Necromancer was involved. One of the things I dearly love about Tolkien is the way he doesn't just force his characters into a path. Balin had decent reasons to try to resettle Moria. Not just greed or pride. Like the way Tolkien treated Denethor(and Peter Jackson didn"t). A great man, great leader, doing his best but eventually falling. I'd like to think that Balin could have successfully restored the place if the rising tide of Sauron-driven evil hadn't swamped him.

@azareloropeza3261 4 года назад

He had no clue THAT was going to happen .....remember how the dwarves behave they hide in the caves ever digging ever searching for riches they don't care about elves or men

@stuartharper5646 4 года назад

I am glad for this channel. It is a peaceful moment do delve further into these great works of literature.

@martinkois7126 4 года назад

I like that every character feels like the main character in their own story, the more you dig into them. This channel helped me see that.

@shadowofchaos8932 4 года назад

Another great video of LOTR lore. Keep up the great work.

@midtwilightblue 4 года назад

Wait. I’m actually watching this within moments of the video being uploaded and not years later!!? Holy shnikies!!! Long live LOTR and The Hobbit 😆♥️

@stevanisag 4 года назад

I love every time you do a video on the dwarves of tolkien's work. Baruk Khazad!

@joshuad5300 4 года назад

this was awesome! really look forward to the future videos in this new series!

@Chaos.Kraken 4 года назад

My favorite part of Tolkien's world is the work he put into the lore and extensive world building. It just makes the whole experience more immersive.

@teddygrizz 4 года назад

You're pronouncing Oin and Gloin wrong. It's not "Owin" and "Glowin", "Oyn" and "Gloyn".

@Masterfighterx 3 года назад

Balin too..

@Yand_Durinul 3 года назад

And Fundin.

@Yand_Durinul 3 года назад

And Dain.

@Fatal_N_Felony 3 года назад

took me a second to realize who he was talking about lol

@mojosbigsticks 3 года назад

My understanding was Tolkien meant them to be O'in and Glo'in, pronounced like the traditional Celtic name Owen. However, with the popularity of the films, your pronunciation has become the more common.

@CrimznRaven 4 года назад

Thank you very much for this video! Always wanted this.

@brutal-noodle 4 года назад

The history of middle earth is so in depth, that’s probably my favorite part of his writings. Thanks for another great video!

@federicaesu8580 4 года назад

The thing I most like in Tolkien works is that there’s always hope even in the darkest times and that there is good in the world that is still worth fighting for

@aaronnantz2289 2 года назад

Yea the lord of the rings and hobbit shows that even though things got bad and then worse people stood by each other and saved the world. And in the end good won sauron was defeated for good everyine went back to their lives but were completly different as when they first started thier journey,s.

@Bringmeoneofthosechickens 4 года назад

My favorite part of Tolkiens world is how immersive it is. No matter what stress you face in life you can turn on LOTR original trilogy extended edition or open the book and get lost in middle earth.

@onetwothreefourfive12345 4 года назад

Sandor Clegane ye its amazing. I love that

@WhiteWave3 4 года назад

What I love about talking is writings are the messages he put in them which are still relevant today. He put his life experiences in and made them real which is evident in that they are still so loved and relevant today. Ultimately I love that he made a magical, absorbing world that is so engaging. I can never get enough of it. I always want to know more.

@hoo7797 Год назад

The Mines of Moria are such a frightening place. When I read the books, the silent ambience of the caverns, the slight sound of Gollum following the Fellowship, the account of the Mazarbul book, and the drums in the deep kept me up at night, legitimately. I actually became really afraid of Gollum and the Nazgûl after reading Fellowship of the Ring, and couldn't bear to even look at a picture of Gollum without getting chills. I'm well past that now, but looking back at the dread that the Mines of Moria gave me, I don't want to imagine how horrible must Gimli have felt, kneeling by the tomb of his father's cousin while he hears the tale of how his uncle and many other kinsmen of his were slain, trapped, pretty much staring at death in the face knowing that they were doomed and there was nothing they could do about it. It is so horrifying and dark, but I think it makes Galadriel's kindness towards Gimli in Lothlórien all the more meaningful to him, which makes his respectful love towards her even more pure and thankful.

@jstrahan2 4 года назад

"What Happened to Balin's Expedition in Moria?" It failed. They all died.

@snakeplissken1933 4 года назад

Lesson: Dwarves shouldn't play D&D with that low roll stats.

@marckrieger3277 4 года назад

They shouldn't enter a dungeopn without a wizard.

@mangot589 4 года назад

I don’t know🤔. We had one that got an arm taken off by a devouring bag, but still was valuable. Of course, we always had to protect them a bit more.😂. We never put him in the front after that. Too bad too, because we kinda made him the tank.

@darksageasura5805 4 года назад

Man oh man i love this lore! Great video as always!

@TomLentz 4 года назад

Love your videos and learning about the world of Tolkein. I kinda came at it sideways through LOTRO and love your references to it.

@jamicerda6981 4 года назад

This is devastating, even more so when I just finished reading the hobbit.

@fiddleback1568 3 года назад

Why?

@jordanmanley9172 4 года назад

Man, this is giving me some strong Dwarf Fortress vibes

@levelearthhanifa9121 4 года назад

Excellent video! I just subscribed :) And those rings are the best!!!

@logictotalwar1201 4 года назад

i love the pics and the narration, the video is really cool!, the lotro pics are always epic

@alexandercarder2281 4 года назад

I believe that the drums in the deep and what the fellowship heard were Not physically being drummed by huge trolls etc but where supernatural and of dark magic, conjured by the Balrogs presence. Gimly asked Gandalf when Gandalf had to sit down on the steps “did you meet the beater of the drums?” “Im not sure, what it was I could not tell, but was suddenly faced with something I have not met before. It laid hold of the great iron ring and then it perceived me and my spell. The counter spell was terrible, it almost broke me. The door 🚪 burst in pieces and something dark as a cloud blotted our all light. The wall and ceiling have way. I am afraid that balin is buried deep and perhaps something else is buried too”.

@jakeoppelt1792 4 года назад

I would’ve loved a flashback in the movies about the crusade.

@Gwilfawe 4 года назад

I am truly looking forward to this series of videos. Thank you my good sir.

@johnnybravo2905 4 года назад

good job, as always, thanks for such good content!

@sethmiller2534 4 года назад

Hello my good sir. My man among boys, my thundering voice among the squeaks of normal men. You greater my knowledge so very well, and my heart is joyous when you post. Thank you so much, this video is excellent

@MenoftheWest 4 года назад

Thank you so much, my friend! Your comments get more poetic each week haha!

@johnroche7541 4 года назад

@@MenoftheWest I have recently came across this channel and you are a God send to Tolkein devotees. You do so much Herculean work in bringing the history of Middle Earth to life. It would be great if Peter Jackson made a movie about Ballin's expedition to Moria using the same actors from The Hobbit. Obviously there would be no original Tolkein dialogue but you would have an original Tolkein plot which high quality screen writer's could work around. As a fan of Tolkein I always thought Peter Jackson would make more movies from the rich history of Middle Earth. Tolkein left a wealth of material to work from and with Middle Earth's rich history they would rival both The Hobbit and LOTR in terms of stories and plot's. Wishing you success in all your future enterprises and endeavours.

@MenoftheWest 4 года назад

John Roche Thank you, my friend! I really appreciate that, it means a lot!

@benjaminmcclelland2464 4 года назад

Video idea: what did aragorn do about the orcs when he became king?

@aviz5044 4 года назад

Finally, Thorin III or his son retook Moria and established themselves there. Later at 4th age they closed the gates of its kingdom to live inside the mointains away from humans

@aviz5044 4 года назад

Aragorn rebuilt the Kingdom of Arnor and had many wars against the sourtheners and easterlings (hordes of Rhûn, Khand and Harad), winning and subjugating them. He reconstructed the kingdoms of Gondor and Arnor, and he fought against the hordes I said before with Rohan (with king Eomer and his son too)

@visionist7 4 года назад

Roasted them on a BBQ

@Thouse_Muchachos 4 года назад

@@aviz5044 also the capital of the Reunited Kingdom became Annúminas, Minas Morgul was cleanesed ,after the departure of Gandalf, but he pronounced that no one would live there for 10 years because of the evil that still endured there, but im guessing he recontructed Minas Ithil after those 10 years. Osgiliath was recontructed and Ithilien was populated again. The Shire remained independent BUT King Elessar made sure no man would enter there (so im guessing he reconquered the whole region around the Shire). Also a guy told me this theory (which i find kinda dumb) where he made a peace treaty with some orcs and gave them land in Mordor.....that does not sound probable to me (but i might be wrong) If i was mistaken in something please correct me, i just want to know more about the lore

@shawnparshall1165 4 года назад

@@Thouse_Muchachos well said, if I remember correct Aragorn gave the land around the sea of nurn to the men who were enslaved as farmers so they could build themselves up and live good lives; so far as the orcs go they primarily fled in to the mountains and hid from the other races, the orcs of Moria were eventually destroyed by Durin the VII

@LostwithoutCoffee 4 года назад

First video I’ve watched and I already love this channel.

@alexdiviney6225 4 года назад

Wanted to know about this for ages! Thanks a lot!

@grtbgf 4 года назад

Nothing makes my day like an opportunity to yell "Fool of a took!" at my friend when he screws something up. Tolkien is my life.

@TexasViking_INFP-t_5w4 4 года назад

My sister says that to me alot

@azzamalmarzouq9522 4 года назад

The proper way to say it would be ... Fool of a "insert mother's family name"

@VSO_Gun_Channel 4 года назад

Easily captivating

@nelsonr1467 3 года назад

Weird finding you here.

@VSO_Gun_Channel 3 года назад

@@nelsonr1467 huge LOTR fan. One day I hope to complete the Silmarillion but I’m going to have to make a flow chart for that shit

@paapiii8501 4 года назад

Geest video! Everything that happend to/in moria is soo interesting! Love the content!

@marionbaggins 4 года назад

Man, watching and reading that scene in Fellowship was soo tense!!! Thanks for the video Mellon...Marion Baggins Out Voting... P.s One of my many favorite things about Tolkien's works is...Excluding you make great videos about it every week... No not just that, it's he makes some of my favorite relatable and realist characters such as Samwise Gamgee!!!

@TheSaneHatter 4 года назад

I’m sorry that I missed the contest, but it’s taken me long enough just to get to this video: my Mom is visiting, and RU-vid-binging has to be put on hold.

@tjsanfilippo1606 4 года назад

I discovered Tolkien shortly after discovering 'Dungeons & Dragons' in the 1980's- These books were not only a fantastic trip into unapologetic escapism but also contained a 'realism' that was lacking in all of the fantasy literature I had been exposed to up to that point.. Suspension of disbelief is something easily attained by anyone with enough imagination but with Tolkien you were inundated into a living, breathing world complete with 'real' locations and histories so grand and well thought out that even today, and even centuries to come we can discuss and theorycraft and learn together as we uncover layers upon layers upon layers of 'meat'- Tolkien spans the chasm of generations and can read as a mere tale or studied with scholarly care. Children know of the tale of Bilbo Baggins and can delight in its simplistic storytelling of a grand adventure and as one grows older, one can delve deeper into this world with LOTR or the Simarillian...I go back to these books often and can see everything through new eyes and my own life has changed. One single sentence from these books can become a quest in itself to learn more- I still wish we knew more of what happened in the Dungeons of the necromancer among many other things.... All I know is that Tolkien created something that has grown into and touched every single facet of society- Even the normies who would never pick up a book (more less a book a fantasy) have had opinions formed and interests peaked through words and tales that they may not know even exist- Tolkien would be quite amused by all of this, I believe.

@TheTexasStranger 4 года назад

The one thing I love about these works is the open ended nature in which their written. It leave a lot to the imagination, but keeps enough detail to give you a good idea of the events. It really is reminiscent of our own historical writings and how many parts of it are lost, leaving us to fill in the blanks of what could have been. Also, I think it opens the door for great content to be created, giving creators the framework to take some license with the details of timelines, while still holding to the core themes. All those missing pages are opportunities for those true and respectful fans to create great stories and content, without having to break the lore.

@Grimnir1666 4 года назад

I'll never not love these lore videos. Mazing as always :D

@polloleche7719 4 года назад

The one thing I wish most of Tolkien's writings is that I wanted to read more about the Dwarf race. They are by far the most interesting to me. It's a shame it never happened...

@tylersoto7465 3 года назад

If you love dwaves so much read about Warhammer 40k it's really good

@greywolf2362 4 года назад

I find anything about the dwarfs very fascinating. I think Balins expedition was doomed from the start, due to the orcs and the balrog, if one didn't end the expedition I think the other would have.

@THSisAcreativeNAME 4 года назад

I've always loved how deep the lore goes. From just reading the Hobbit to diving deep into the appendices of Lord of the Rings and family trees in the Silmarillion, Tolkien made an incredibly deep and fascinating universe to get lost in. There's always something new to discover

@therealdarkwhale7977 4 года назад

I think my favourite part of Tolkien’s legendarium is most probably the races. I love the depth and stories behind all of them. Great videos! I’d love to hear more tales of the mighty dwarves in this channel if possible as they are the race I find I know the least about.

@glennross85 4 года назад

Just thinking about Moria makes me claustrophobic.

@Presbiter 4 года назад

see and i get chills of heights...the stairs...those fucking stairs^^

@GhurdD 4 года назад

if they had taken it for a few years wouldn’t they have gotten more dwarfs to begin turning it back into a home and populating it.

@carlosgonzalez8810 4 года назад

Love this new series of videos.. will answer a lot of questions we all might have on the LOTR lore

@vladimirortega5846 4 года назад

I have always loved how in all of Tolkien’s story there is always a very deep learning to be had. You are the only person I have known with the passion to show us this wonderful misc stories from the LoTR story. I hope I win the give away i have always loved the ring and since being little I’ve been trying to get a good copy of the one ring 🙏🏽

@thefremddingeguy6058 4 года назад

Now I wonder what would've happened if Balin and his company knew that Thror's ring had been given to Thrain. Would Balin and his company still have gone to Moria and settled there?

@timonsolus 3 года назад

Good question. I would say, probably yes. Gimli said at the Council of Elrond: “Indeed, I may now reveal that it was partly in hope of finding that ring that Balin went away.” Which suggests that Balin regarded Thror’s Ring as a possible bonus, not as the main objective of the expedition.

@joeperez3520 4 года назад

How many dwarves took part in this expedition? I can't imagine it succeeding with less than several thousand taking part.

@lonniecraig5186 4 года назад

My best guess is that it wouldn't have been many more than a couple of thousand, probably less. The reasons are likely because: 1) The Dwarves never seemed to me, based on little I know, to be a very populous people. Given the low birth rate and the fact that some of the Dwarven women were not interested in marriage and children, the Dwarves couldn't have had a high population. (For the record, I think I remember reading this in one of the appendices to The Return of the King; you might want to double-check me on this) 2) You are only a few years removed from the Battle of the Five Armies, where many Dwarven warriors were killed. So combine a low-population race with a portion of their kind being killed in a major battle, and I can't see there being a large number of Dwarves going to Moria. Just my opinion but it could be the case.

@ProtomanButCallMeBlues 4 года назад

Probably took who he could get. I assume only a few hundred considering they had some good initial success clearing holds and tunnels, but Sauron coming out of retirement and the orcs going on steroids and actually organizing was not expected, and from then on they were on the defensive.

@joeperez3520 4 года назад

@@ProtomanButCallMeBlues Not planning for the unexpected is never a good thing.

@ProtomanButCallMeBlues 4 года назад

@@joeperez3520 Well, there were some things they just couldn't plan for. Not being able to get Dains sponsorship and support probably hurt them enough so they didnt have what enough to plan for what they wanted, not to mention what they didnt expect

@joeperez3520 4 года назад

Protoman Must agree. 👍