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What Happened to Digi-Burst? (Digimon TCG Analysis) 

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@ceiis2013
@ceiis2013 Год назад
Bandai does a survey for every set and for everyone I put "Don't forget about Digi-Burst."
@PS-th9jc
@PS-th9jc Год назад
Digi-Burst was just discarded because the loss of evolution sources would imply a huge payoff given that inherited effects are the core of the game pretty much. They carry a lot of value, ie the mechanic is prone to powercreep more than any other in the game (even nowadays). The matchup vs Blue would also be unplayable due to their source ripping playstyle if Digi-Burst became a core gameplay mechanic in a given deck. I would say you're pretty spot on. The mechanics was rather interesting but it unfortunately conflicted with many core aspects that were already established since the beginning of the game.
@TasteOfVictory
@TasteOfVictory Год назад
Small corrections. I showed Royal Nuts at 2:13 as an example of a Digi-Burst support card and didn't catch it was actually digisoprtion. My bad idk how I totally missed that lol. Thank you to top purple player Tesero for pointing it out! BT5 MetalGaru also only works on digivolving which I completely forgot. The theory is still supported by the promo burst BWG but I'm really sorry for making that mistake lol! Gonna have friends preview the videos from now on before posting. 😅
@shadowofdimentio4618
@shadowofdimentio4618 Год назад
There's a chance green might continue the mechanic and make it semi-exclusive similar to raid, since all the bt14 green insects seem to have no inheritable. it might be a fun way to take insects as a whole to make them stick out more
@andrewsheiman8574
@andrewsheiman8574 Год назад
1. On Digiburst weakening Black. This is only true if Digiburst is used in all colors. Clearly they designed the mechanic to be a mostly Green effect, which would just lead to lopsided matchups when some archetypes face off: the way EVERY card game works. 2. It strengthens Blue. See above, this just leads to some archetypes having stronger matchups. As long as digiburst is designed to mostly be in one color or archetype, this shouldn't matter. 3. Yeah, this makes sense. Man, X-Antibody really just messes up a lot of this game, doesn't it? It even makes de-digivolve weaker since the targeted digimon won't lose as many levels. I don't know, it seems like if Bandai just kept Digiburst as a Green-centric effect (or just its own archetype), it wouldn't be that bad. It's a really cool mechanic, and it sucks that it's been forgotten. Unlike mechanics that get abandoned in other TCGs, I don't think Digiburst is problematic. I'd like to see it make a return.
@PatVX1
@PatVX1 Год назад
I'd like to see some support for Yellow Rasenmon at some point. The deck is long powercrept as far as I can tell but I really like Rasenmon and it's line, so some support to make it a bit more relevant again someday would be cool.
@Leonardovideogoes
@Leonardovideogoes Год назад
they just gave up on digibust
@josephrobertson5445
@josephrobertson5445 Год назад
I mean I will note there was an honorary digiburst archetype after all the ones you mentioned. Bagra Army. They were just designed intentionally somewhat parasitic, and didn't use the digiburst keyword, instead just using the text without the keyword. Which really points to the keyword having been fully killed. Because otherwise it'd be extremely simple to word the big ones as digibursting.
@ridwana4037
@ridwana4037 Год назад
12:28 " (Game) mechanics come and go" *8 days later Blossommon, one of the only meta relevant card that uses digi burst got restricted. Proving that Bandai tried to move off of the old mechanics HE IS THE MESSIAH!!
@xbot02
@xbot02 Год назад
Glad you made this, cuz no one EVER talks about it, and I'm always wondering why the mechanic fizzled out lol
@Leonardovideogoes
@Leonardovideogoes Год назад
so digibust was thrown out because of the black
@Avdocado
@Avdocado Год назад
Funny you made this cuz this randomly crossed my mind today and if anyone has made a video on it yet🤣 in you we trust❤
@MrNovascar
@MrNovascar Год назад
One more reason could be that they might got feedback that the mechanic was not well received. There is a rather famous game design talk with a lead designer from MtG. He talked about a card, that could increase its stats by discarding cards from your hand. Balance wise, the card was perfect. Good enough to be considered for many players, but also not oppressive. Why was it not well received? Because players want to USE THEIR CARDS! Not throw them away to play with a single buffed card and nothing else.
@MrMac1219
@MrMac1219 Год назад
I think Digi Burst is still here... sort of, now its just a non keyword archetype effect. Bagra Army functions pretty similarly except the Burst happens in a "counter" window and the inherited effects don't have to be trashed by Burst specifically. Too bad the strategy is seriously weak right now, it definitely needs some more variety in the inherited effects and a second functional tamer.
@batzgameguru
@batzgameguru Год назад
Herculeskabuterimon has gotten me a top 10 at a regional :(
@XmortoxX1990
@XmortoxX1990 Год назад
Hi! New to the game here. It's sad I won't try Digi-burst as it looks like a great mechanic. It reminds me of XYZ monster in Yu-Gi-Oh. It makes of sense the theories for the mechanic being scrapped.
@TasteOfVictory
@TasteOfVictory Год назад
Welcome to the game I hope you have fun learning the decks!
@XmortoxX1990
@XmortoxX1990 Год назад
@@TasteOfVictory I do, but I haven't fully integrated. I looked to my local LGS but sadly none play or sell Digimon cards, only Pokemon and Magic. So until I find one I am just playing in online simulators. So far, Imperialdramon, Examon and Machinedramon are the decks I'm looking forward. Not inerested into meta viabiliy for now, just want to play with some of my favorite Digimons
@Hulavuta
@Hulavuta Год назад
@@XmortoxX1990 those decks are all decently meta relevant anyway so you're fine!
@XmortoxX1990
@XmortoxX1990 Год назад
@@Hulavuta oh really? Then even better
@plutonash2545
@plutonash2545 Год назад
​@@Hulavuta "Machinedramon decently meta" ...
@samanderson1188
@samanderson1188 10 месяцев назад
For me its gotta be 2 things that made them rethink 1-the introduction of same level evolution cards introduced in set 9 which can let players abuse Digi-burst effects unless they make them all once per turns which then cripples them cause an effect intended to be used twice suddenly can either be used once or more than twice (hence breaking it). 2-inhertibles started to become a must especially since BT6 when archetypes started to properly form and you needed certain pieces for your gameplan cause before BT6 everyone ran some vanillas at the level 4 and/or level 5 slot due to their cheap evo cost. Do I think Digi-Burst can come back, yes but it would have to be designed differently as in Digi-burst cards with different levels being mentioned in the text and the effect would have to be worth it. Digi-Burst decks can have the niche of being able to run efficient vanillas and then going into a powerful digimon before your opponent. Sounds quite like a green I know. But the trade off here is that these digimon are major glass cannons cause once they’re out of steam they become vanillas.
@TheDrnknSpartan
@TheDrnknSpartan Год назад
Nicely done, very imformative
@RaveDX
@RaveDX Год назад
Don't care if Digiburst comes back honestly. I just want Rasenmon support.
@filipepereira2130
@filipepereira2130 Год назад
Of course need warp digivolve and main tamer and give. Effect of each digi burst effect digimon gain 1 sec +
@ExoStormer
@ExoStormer Год назад
I honestly hope they bring digi-burst back in some form. I think that if they wanted to create a strong deck that would work to a slow the recent explosive metas, something like bt5 green would be great. I also think it would be a cool strategy for a control deck to digi-burst out an ace card and pass the turn while debuffing the opponent with a stun or dp minus. I really think the mechanic isn't a lost cause (especially with the possibility of a card that can digi-burst at counter timing) and I hope that it makes a return. It doesn't even need to be meta defining, but something that gives interesting effects that makes up for its weaknesses and bad match ups.
@digiwatchtcg7625
@digiwatchtcg7625 Год назад
Pretty good video. I get how they did it. I mean, grandis still terrorizes with DB but i think its good they move forward and re-design concepts
@ChaosFlame13
@ChaosFlame13 Год назад
wait, I'm confused with the black metalgarurumon in that deck you showed near the end. I'm pretty sure the when digivolving effect was only allowed to activate once.
@TasteOfVictory
@TasteOfVictory Год назад
You're correct. That part was conceptual. Looks like I just picked the wrong card to show case it because I forgot it's when digivolving! The theory is still supported by the BWG promo at least. Welp, now I wish I focused on that card more whoops lol. Thank you for catching that.
@grapujuicu
@grapujuicu Год назад
it was the best otk deck i've ever played i cant believe bandai target banned me like that
@beatscreeper8406
@beatscreeper8406 Год назад
i mean tbh makes sense, with how good inherited skills are now and blue can just remove so much and that strong cards need certain amount
@TealVelvet
@TealVelvet Год назад
My personal take on digiburst is that it could be updated, but there needs to be an archetype dedicated to it with at least 2, if not all of the following: • 2- colors so you are not limited to the tool set of only one color. • Jogress access so you can double your stack to burst away • Reduce the cost of the burst to 1 for regular effects, 2 for good ones, and 3 for op ones, but just a few of those, maybe only in the level 6-7 • Make the effects on the digimon good or busted, but give them no inheritables at all, if they have one that will alter the balance of the card and we won't get a worthy effect for the burst. Atm, my mind goes to the Red Purple imperial line, as an already established archtype to add burst to, since they already can evolve from the discard and have recovery from it too, with access to jogress and 2 colors, it's already half way there for a cool burst archetype.
@metascrub285
@metascrub285 Год назад
I think there should be a Rosemon deck that is fully dedicated to it. The burst modes promote using lots of the main tamers to use them but Yoshi's old tamer is digibust related and alot of the old support is dated so you really only run the new Yoshi support while the other saver decks can run both their tamer cards.
@dabbingpengun1758
@dabbingpengun1758 Год назад
You could've also added jogress/Dna digivolution here since they basically double the sources like X-antibody. Could you also imagine if we got those for imperial?
@JDReC100
@JDReC100 Год назад
*maniacal laughing*
@dorugoramon0518
@dorugoramon0518 Год назад
Shame it hasnt gottren much support considering how cool it is as a concept. All it needs is some protection from blue and a good enough payoff (but not as broken grankuwagamon) and it would probably see more play. Especially such a shame how little support herissmon got despite how big his role was in the games.
@DogmaDraws
@DogmaDraws Год назад
Great vid tasty
@captonfrost
@captonfrost Год назад
I'm gonna digibust watching this video
@IcarusOOT
@IcarusOOT Год назад
Completely unrelated to video, but I hope one day we get a dedicated Wormmon deck, basically with a focus on Wormmon and Stingmon without Veemon and Imperialdramon. As cool as Imperialdramon is, Wormmon is my absolute favorite digimon and I'd love a viable deck with just Wormmon's main line (or something close)
@nutkicker12
@nutkicker12 Год назад
I think the only way you get that is if they make a bancho theme/partially themed set with banchostingmon.
@IcarusOOT
@IcarusOOT Год назад
@@nutkicker12 I mean, I'm down for another BanchoStingmon deck, though a new digimon that fits in the line could be possible, they've made new digimon via the game before so
@nutkicker12
@nutkicker12 Год назад
@@IcarusOOT but banchosting does act as a nice parallel to veemons standalone veedra line. path of the royal knight vs the path of the bancho. tho that would mean if they did make a new digi just for a solo line it would be a new champion(which will still have stingmon in name) and/or ultimate to further seperate from imperial.
@IcarusOOT
@IcarusOOT Год назад
@@nutkicker12 I mean yeah, It does fit perfectly as a standalone, I just think a whole new line would be neat. Sorta like how Veemon's standalone is Veedramon, while it's jogress line is ExVeemon Wormmon could have its own Veedramon and Stingmon be it's "ExVeemon" Either way I'll still love my wormy lil guy, I just want a nice lil proper deck dedicated to him instead of being good support for another or a tech card
@nutkicker12
@nutkicker12 Год назад
@@IcarusOOT i feel for ya there. i have similar feelings with HiAndromon. where his line has been made as machinedramon support with no sign of hiandromon being able to be his own thing (the only hiandro in the game is a vanilla 12k from bt2, and the new one coming is a starter deck companion mega with blocker and 8 or less play cost deleter effect when digivolving).
@2saisai
@2saisai Год назад
the background of wargreymon VS black wargreymon. Is there a paly mat version of it?
@Yamiperlife
@Yamiperlife Год назад
Qué genial video
@masterlinktm
@masterlinktm Год назад
I think digiburst comes back. It would completely fit into the counter timing effects coming into the game now.
@Salty010
@Salty010 Год назад
4:26 yeah i experience that loyal play black color set try all type easily brick among all deck, keep loosing non stop since its most slowest deck among all, hard to counter almost all deck… finally at set 9 finally black xantibody getting its own meta deck 😥 and that time back to back i obliterate everybody with my alphamon deck all those frustrating playing my fav set color…😢
@garylasorella7997
@garylasorella7997 Год назад
Outside of the grandkuwaga line digiburst just didnt do much. I just assumed they dropped because of that
@johndowney6923
@johndowney6923 Год назад
Makes perfect sense. To bad the other commenters didnt watch the video lol
@raymondliew9918
@raymondliew9918 Год назад
It became a youtube channel
@DigiBurst
@DigiBurst Год назад
Feeling very attacked right now 😅😅
@PkmJZ
@PkmJZ Год назад
Digi burst should be a thing it can definitely counter black Digi burst option
@qwefg3
@qwefg3 Год назад
Black is a bit weak as it has Right now two main decks. Alphamon who was a good deck... By also stealing cards from the dorumon line. Black war greymon... Which stole a lot of red cards to buff itself and red stealing those cards to also buff itself. Digibust while a neat concept just didn't have enough value to compete with the other keywords... Made a bit worse due to the x-evolution cards adding more to the digibust buff.
@7095Sean
@7095Sean Год назад
Digisoption disappeared as well. Though based Grandis is the only deck actually using digi burst
@Blank-ho7di
@Blank-ho7di Год назад
I had to pause at 5:06 because that machinedramon was just too atrocious to ignore
@codenamexelda
@codenamexelda Год назад
It wasnt meta enough to survive, surely this skill didnt peak did it?
@MisoraRyuu0921
@MisoraRyuu0921 Год назад
Grandis is the only deck that reminds people digiburst exists lol
@Salty010
@Salty010 Год назад
The funny stuff only grandis digiburst still most relevant even bt13 😂😂😂
@Cybershroom
@Cybershroom Год назад
yeah it speaks volumes how Black only really has few builds that work, at least D-Brigade is still really fun, consider it a blessing.
@jkromes20
@jkromes20 Год назад
I honestly hate x antibody. Feels like any deck with it is always busted. Nothing like digivolving 5 times fir 3 memory lol
@bobothehobo4158
@bobothehobo4158 Год назад
Simple - Progression of the game. I do feel that Digi-Burst would be one of the best ways to introduce more opponent's turn interaction instead of the broken AF ACE mechanic. You could simply have an [Opponent's Turn] to interact with them on their turn, it costs 0 memory to do and doesnt introduce any new mechanics to the game.
@MrOzono
@MrOzono Год назад
Mhh... Counter digi-burst?
@WHboiYT
@WHboiYT Год назад
Put simply, digiburst sucked. I think the only way theyd make it viable again is if they were (oppononents turn) effects.
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