The main reason Gandalf wanted the rest of the fellowship to run away. Gandalf didn’t want to share the experience points. From the battle with the Balrog.
I like to think that the two Maiar threw insults as well as swords and whips whilst fighting (I mean it's a long time to go without talking) and the Balrog would call him Olorin and Gandalf actually knew this thing from ages past.
"The True Mission" is a necessity! Well done, and thank you! 😄 Leaving Frodo to his own fate must have been one of the hardest things Gandalf ever *had* to do...
I think Peter Jackson's portrayal of Gandalf's return was as well done as it could be, considering that he was limited to the information given in the trilogy itself. If he had been allowed to use information from Unfinished Tales and other sources, I think the entire trilogy would have been improved... but what was produced was the best it could have been, I think.
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I was angry and disappointed not to see Tom Bombadil and Arwen instead of Glorfindel when i first watched the movie but he did worst to Gandalf. Humiliated by Saruman, Not mentioning he fought the full company of Nazgul a night long. Portraying him as a puny old man against a human witch, who would be killed by a hobbit (with an elven weapon) and a girl in a few minutes. No i dont think Jackson did any better with Gandalf as he did with Galadriel and Celeborn.
@ yeah as great as the movies are, Jackson didn't do that great of a job at showing the characters as they are, I guess Sam is the one that is truly accurate? (although he PJ also kind of butchered the dynamic of Frodo/Gollum/Sam as well
I think the movies did a fantastic job and was even more impressed with the extended cut versions. The amount of fan art and theories make it seem like I am reading the books and watching the movies again for the first time. Cheers.
I would have loved to seen a bit more of Gandalf’s battle against the Balrog in the movie as well as a bit more backstory on the Balrogs. I have read LOTR and The Silmarillion but it would have been nice for those who haven’t read the books. Other than that I loved Peter Jackson’s opening scene in Two Towers with Gandalf fighting the Balrog, epic.
The casting of Gandalf for the trilogy was perfection. I read the Ring of Power trilogy when it first appeared in paperback and I could not put it down. I am now in my 70's and still feel that reading this magical creation of Tolkien's one of the greatest gifts to me in my life as an avid reader.
Not a trilogy :) Read it on the first page. Just one book, split into 6 books, in 3 volumes. Tolkien resented the idea of people calling it a trilogy, as he writes there himself (I’ve the 50th anniversary edition from HarperCollins). Otherwise agree on all points!
I must thank you. I've read and listened to LOTR more times than I can count and I never picked up that it was Gsndalf instructing Frodo to take the ring off on Amon Hen while he, Gandalf, was literally spiritually battling with Sauron. Again, thanks so much for that insight as it isn't often I learn something new about this trilogy.
When Gandalf, a Maia wrapped in a bodily form, says he “laid naked” for sometime with his thought wandering and so on… *Can he be referring NOT to his clothes, but to his bodily form, his human wrap?* Maybe he laid at the top of those Mountains as a spirit of light, a shinning spot like some fallen star, until he was rewrapped into his new bodily form (which was indeed “light as a swan feather” to Gwaihir’s grip)
"Durin's Bane" (the Balrog's name according to the dwarves) indeed had a good end for one such he was. Peter Jackson could have done a movie on Gandalf alone. Some those battles and trial wold have been worth watching. The Battle and fall of "Durin's Bane" woud have been a great opening scene. THE TRUE MISSION!
Jackson did a pretty damn good job with this take on the original word. He really stuck with it almost word for word. I saw a behind the scenes where Ian and Jackson are telling each other, "You shall not pass" because it was a bit over the top. It was great to see them going back and forth "You ....." good stuff I think!
This video came out at the most perfect time for me, after watching you guys for years and reading LOTR lore online, I finally started reading the books. Just finished Fellowship, starting Two Towers today 👏
I always wondered how they fought after landing in the water and how they got to the peak. Did they just keep walking in a straight line whilst occasionally tapping swords?
I think Peter Jackson did a magnificent job considering there is SO much to tell. He had to pick and chose the scenes that would align with the entire story being in movie form. It seems like there should be a seperate film just for the scenes that are important would be shared. You could not do this in the Lord of the Rings movies themselves and keep the continuity of the whole completion of it throughout till the end at the Return of the King
When the Balrog had its fire quenched and became a "thing of slime, and stronger than a strangling snake", it was actually in a relatively weak state. The fire that it wields is what gives and restores its power.
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Definitely enjoyed the details on the story of Gandalf! Thank you! And yes, definitely I would have loved to see it included in the movie. So why not a movie on Gandalf from beginning to end?
One thing I've always wondered, is that if Bilbo was using the ring from when he found it, was Sauron aware of it moving about the world again? Especially if he's in Dol Guldur at the time. Ok, he wouldn't have had time to act on it because he was about to be booted out, but I still wonder.
Sauron put a great deal of his native power into the One Ring in order to gain mastery of the lesser rings (including the eleven which he never touched nor saw), this resulted in his not knowing the location of the ring. Even when Frodo and Sam were in Mordor on the way to Mount Doom, and only became aware when Frodo declared himself while the ring was at full power since it had returned to the place of its making.
@gotmilkforme Sauron only never touched the three Elven rings. He had a hand in the making of the others. Read the the book and pay attention next time.
@@bendream544 “Therefore the Three remained unsullied, for they were forged by Celebrimbor alone, and the hand of Sauron had never touched them. Silmarillion - Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age.
I thought that Peter Jackson did a remarkable job of depicting this battle. When I was a kid reading the books, over and over, I ALWAYS jumped ahead from the Bridge of Kazad-Dum chapter in Fellowship to the White Rider chapter in Two Towers.
Would LOVE having a "wall sized" Poster of the 5 Astarti that you briefly showed. Would be happy to pay shipping and printing and for your time. Thank You!!
Good work Broken Sword! You have no idea how much this inspires me! I realise, hearing such a careful reconstruction of what seemed a blurred chase, this is not a one-off event, rather a sort of Robert Bly or Jungian myth, the sort of bete noir clash of dualities that is a sort of universal experience where we mortals are brushed with a reminder of out True Mission. I don't pretend to know what this is, looking forward to that video. As this one was instrumental in insight through careful quotation of the actual book text, I shall hunt up my old American knock-off paperback edition and hunt around for more quotes about our true mission as... well we aren't all wizards in life I'm sure. But all the same I'm quite sure we all play a role in a grand drama, quite similar as to the inner life of wizards, in some sense, knocking about with demons in personal underworlds. Anyway, this video inspired me to write 11 stanzas about the Bridge of Khazed-Dum, and your forthcoming videos may yet inspire more... I shall subscribe.
A movie should be made of the journey of the two blue wizards it be interesting to imagine there own missions and obstacles and what is beyond middle earth
Growing up with the film Trilogy as my primary introduction to the world of Middle Earth, I personally prefer you shall not pass. It's just such an iconic line that I cannot help but actually yell it myself whenever I watch the movies
Beautiful artwork, I also liked the Balrog in the film but I feel like the book only describes a being that fits through a large door and wielding evil magic
In the entire genre of fantasy, the claim in this video that the showdown between Gandalf and the Balrog is the greatest of all is subjective. I thought the fight between aslan and the white witch of narnia was good too - i'll never forget the phrase 'dispair and die' as the white witch plunges the dagger into Aslan. I've often wondered what would've happened if Aslan had turned up at Minas Tirith and confronted the witch king. Also, there's Watership Down and Efrafa or even the challenge just to survive against the elil - 'can you run? I think not'. But Tolkien produced a lot more work and much more detail than the other two regarding his fantasy world. Hats off to him. The video asks the question what do we think about how Jackson handled this section of loftrs? I havent seen the movies for a while, but from memory, jackson did ok.
What I never understood was why, if Gandalf had been tended by Galadriel and then decided to meet up with Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli, did he then act confused and like he didn't remember them or even who he was when he did meet up with them? Never made sense.
Had to add another thought: Gandalf died going off quest in order to save the quest and rid Middle-earth of a lingering First Age demon that was a magnitude of Power greater than anything still living in Middle-earth. I believe God found that Gandalf using his full strength was not only warranted but necessary for the completion of their quest. It wasnt the first or last time Eru Illvator intervened during the the Quest of the Ring!!
As a child, I called it The Razing of the Shire. Because Sharkey (Saruman) had "razed" and destroyed much of the Shire, but also Frodo, Samwise, Merridoc, and Pippin "raised" the Shire up against the forces of Saruman. Hence the double meaning.
@@Rebelrocker69 Merridoc+Pippin saying come on 2 will be enough, Gandalf knew beforehand and finally Sharkey saying to frodo you have become wise halfling,and cruel,not Hobbit but Halfling.
As CGI get becomes more expanded, movies such as this can be supplimented by expanding the actions of all characters within a purely CGI domain. New law regarding character rights (aka Actor Rights) will have to be produced, ultimately to get signed away for a fee.
