What Happened To Indiana Jones And The Dial Of Destiny?! 

As flawed as it may be, Kingdom of the Crystal Skull had a satisfying ending. He married Marion, had a son, and had a happy ending. Dial of Destiny shouldn't have happened or should've been better.

I would have personally preferred a film centered on Indy on an adventure with Short Round and Mutt, as it would feature Indy together with his surrogate son and biological son respectively.

"We need to punch up this script!" "How about removing Marion, and adding a plain woman who keeps talking about how attractive she is! She also writes, making it a twofer!" "Perfect!"

There are only three Indiana Jones movies.

Raiders of the Lost Ark was the first movie I saw without any parents - we were all 10-11 years old and me and six friends all took a 90+ minute bus ride to get to the mall where a theatre was showing the movie. For us at that age it was like an adventure to get there to see what would be a great adventure movie.

Indiana Jones to me will forever be a trilogy of movies released in the 1980s.

Mads Mikkelsen can play a villain role in his sleep and still be menacing.

"No, there were no screenings with bad results. We simply spent a hundred million on reshoots to help support the movie-making community."

Spielberg's Indy 5 script would have reunited Indy with an adult Short Round, as well as more of Marion. We were robbed.

The final budget of this movie was around 348M. Not including marketing.

Honestly, I love ALL of the Indiana Jones movies, even Crystal Skull and Dial of Destiny.

Kathleen Kennedy that's what happened.

Imagine telling someone in 1986 that in 2022 through 2024 there would be a Top Gun part 2, a fifth Indiana Jones, a fifth Ghostbusters, and a fourth Beverly Hills Cop, and they'd all star the actors from the 80s.

KOTCS is the end of Jones’ story for me. It is not as good as those that came before it, but it is an Indiana Jones adventure and no one can deny it follows the formula.

"Creative team" and the name Kathleen Kennedy shouldn't be in the same sentence.

the history channel guy with the Einstein hair has become the face of anything alien/UFO LOL

3 main problems with Diaper of Dysentery 1. Phoebe 2. Waller 3. Bridge

I'm one of those "older theater-goers" (67 right now). My wife and I are happy to go to the theater for good movies ("Top Gun: Maverick", "Sound of Freedom", "Mission Impossible 6")

I still think dial of destiny shouldve been about Mutt and Short Round trying to find a kidnapped Indy

I only watched this on Disney+ earlier this year and its definately the weakest of the five. I mean, the positives: Harrison Ford turns in a good performance (and I wish I'm that fit when I hit 80). John Williams' Score is good, albeit seldomly spectacular (Helenas' Theme is great, though, although it doesnt really fit its character), Phedon Papamichaels' cinematography at least gives the entire thing the right "look", and as flawed as the CGI occasionally is, the intro is actually quite entertaining, at its core a very Indy-esqe mini adventure that has the right amount of energy. And James Mangold's direction is solid, the guy is certainly no amateur. But Helena is annoying and thoroughy unlikeable, the CGI is very hit and miss, Voller is a weak villain with very little presence (despite reliable Mads Mikkelsen really doing the best he can) and Antonio Banderas and John Rys Davies are utterly wasted in their bit parts. But the films biggest problems are... first of all, it just lacks tension, suspense and stakes, it really doesn't feel like there is any danger at all, no real ticking clock-element. It just... happens. And secondly, I dunno _Crystal Skull_ wasn't fantastic, but Indy was still his old self (albeit grumpier and slightly slower) and it ended with a Happy Ending: He married Marion, became Dean at his old University, and had a Son who may or may not inherit the Fedora in the future. _Dial of Destiny_ starts off with Mutt dead, Indy and Marion about to divorce and him being a simple professor at a less-renowned University, surrounded by Students who are bored by him and "collagues" who want his old ass gone. And then he spends the majority of the movie pushed around by an arrogant, backstabbing upstart who is being an asshole most of the time, yet we are supposed to like? And the movie ends at essentially the same point as _Crystal Skull_ did... only with an even older pair minus one son, their Bloodline extinct. Nope. The Original three movies are the only essential ones, but I like to thinj of _Crystal Skull_ as an extended epilogue that ends on a positive note at least. And Cate Blanchett was a great villain.

"We need to punch up this script!" "How about the writer who killed James Bond!" "Perfect!"

This movie should've been called " Grumpy Old Man & The Death of a Dynasty".

‘Indiana Jones and the Spear of Destiny’ is the biggest missed opportunity ever… instead we got ‘dial’ which was terrible.

Phoebe Waller Bridge is beyond unlikable in this movie. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO ROOT FOR HER????

Kathleen Kennedy had a wide on for Phoebe Waller bridge.

Watched "Raiders of The Lost Ark" last night at a Harkins theater in Denver, as part of their Tuesday Night Classics series. LOVED IT!

Indy 4 made more than 79.6 million at the worldwide box office. lol

Dial of Destiny should have gone something like this Indiana became like his father ignored his family and preferred ancient dead people over his family. Mutt is not dead he's still enlisted after the war he opened up his shop reparing bikes something he liked doing (as established in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull) got married started a family. Indiana tried to call him but couldn't too ashamed of himself repeating same mistake his father did. Indiana wants to go back in time to get all those years he wasted of not being there for his son, his wife Marion, and not meeting Matt's son. Jurgen is revealed to be brother of Belloq who wants to finish what brother failed to do look for the Dial of Destiny and use to change time the way he sees fit. Helena is not Indiana Jones goddaugther she's actually his daughter her full name is Helena Sophie Jones and her mother is Willie Scott. Before you say Indiana never had a daughter and I'm making it up nope it was established in the Young Indiana Jones series he has daughter named Sophie and she has two kids also Old Indy mentions he has multiple children. Sophie mother is never mentioned and Mutt was a thing yet till Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Helena is similar to her father going on adventures but she actually takes her kids with her on her adventures and spends time with them. Jurgen is revealed to have killed Oxley after he refused to help him find the Dial of Destiny and his death drove wedge between Indiana and Marion with Indiana being accused of not caring for him which is not the case and Marion wanted to avenge Oxley for being there for her and Mutt. Everything in film remains the same but only difference It's not just Indiana and Helena they are joined by Marion, Spike, Lucy, Sallah, and Short Round for one last adventure. Jurgen dies same way like his brother and Donovan the Dial of Destiny taking away his years. Indiana wants to use the Dial of Destiny to go back get all those lost years he wasted not being there for Marion and Mutt but is told by Marion he can't change the past no matter how many times he tries but before he use it the Dial of Destiny destroys itself unable to remain intact. Film ends with Indiana with Marion going to visit their son Mutt before they knock at the door he turns to Marion says "Sweetheart you were right I can't go back no matter how times I can try I can't change the past. If there is one very important thing i learned you have to live life moving forwards not back this time" then Marion gives Indiana a gentle punch in the face. Instead of Mutt answering the door its little boy named Henry Oxley Jones the fourth after Indiana introduces himself and makes amends with his son. Sallah, Short Round, Helena with her children Spike and Lucy, and Stanforth arrive all invited for cook out and just in time to watch NASA launch Armstrong to the moon being covered on the news by none other than Willie Scott which of course Short Round mentions her history with Indiana and Marion gives him that look of really any more surprises. Indiana puts his hat on his grandson passing of the torch finally and Indiana retires. Idk something like this would have been much better

That DVD OVERLORD has some good inside sources. He has always been right concerning STAR WARS.

I hated the way they treated Indy as a grieving Failure because of Mutts unsurprising dead but John Williams told the fans that he was recording new music for new scenes and ending it confirmed what Mangold was denying and that was the shit show that is the movie. Mangold being in Kennedy's payroll went to say that JW was lying and that in my book it is wrong, to treat the legend that way. This movie is boring from start to finish, for me it doesn't feel like a Indy film and Harrison Ford looks and acts bored the whole film. The fact that they killed Mutt and didn't use Short round tells you how the heads of Lucas Film (Kennedy) don't care about these characters. I always visualize a last adventure where Mutt, Short Round and to some degree a grandchild for Indy set out on one last adventure before retiring with their family forever.

Fans online will fight you to the death if you suggest reshoots happened. “The director said there wasn’t. Stop spreading conspiracy theories!!” The release date got pushed back during production by a year, it cost $300m+, John Williams said they were possibly shooting a new ending, and the ending we got felt like it was written in an afternoon.

Say what you will about Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, but at least you could tell it was directed by an individual. There was enough energy to keep this adventure afloat. Aside from the opening scene, I don't feel the same way about Dial of Destiny. VIDEO REQUEST: WTF happened to The Last Airbender (2010) Please make this video 🙏

the "Temple of Doom" (George Lucas and Steven Spielberg's divorce movie) was the best!

I thought it was entertaining and Ford carried off the old guy version of Jones really well. The action scenes such as chases weren't in Spielberg's class, too confusingly edited but a good ending. It was better than the last one. Mind you the budget seems insane especially in the era of Godzilla Minus One

One thing I noticed about Dial is that it's just too long, but also the audience isn't given any time to just stop and breathe it in. Indy's chased continuously throughout the movie (and caught multiple times, which wears on you), and there aren't any "pauses" where things are just sort of in a stasis or lull so you can drink things in. You feel like you're under the gun the whole time as a viewer. It left out really any sense of amazement or wonder and went straight for the conflict the whole time. And the villains don't even feel unique this time around to make it worth your while--they're not even given an ironic Indy-style death like every other villain the series; they just bite it in a plane crash. On top of that, this time around they lean too far into the aging Indy thing. You started to see the cracks in Kingdom, but it goes overboard here. The sad part is that they did handle this correctly in the Young Indiana Jones bumpers for "Mystery of the Blues"--we had an early-50's aged Indy who was bearded, a bit grayer, but still had that mischievousness to him. They really should have taken a page from "The Dark Knight Returns", and made him a big thicker and bearlike, but still have the same drive as when he was younger. Compare this to Sean Connery--he played older characters but never seemed like his characters were burdened by it. Indy could still be great character in his 60's and 70's if they write him well enough.

It wasn't as bad as the rumors suggested, but there were some questionable decisions made. Including short round would have been a plus, and keeping Indy and Mariam married would have been better. Making him sad and grumpy was also questionable. Everything else was pretty fun to watch. Glad they took out the berating old jokes.

Idea: Mutt was not really KIA but is actually a POW and Indy finds out. He enlists Short Round and Mutt's two twin children (boy and girl) to go on some adventure to find the means to rescue Mutt. Mutt is rescued and Short Round gets to don the fedora to later pass it on to Indy's twin grandchildren who then all have many adventures including finding Atlantis. Could be more movies or a streaming show.

Mangold didn't "set the record straight". He lied.

I think Dial is decent film. Ford does a good job (though I did have to suspend disbelief a bit that a 80-year old man, even one as fit as Ford, can go on big adventures, chases and fights without ending up seriously injured), there's some decent action bits and I liked seeing Marion and Sallah return. That bit where Indy talks about his regrets with Mutt was well done. My issues is that a lot of it feels like Indiana Jones's Greatest Hits. We've got another scene of Indy disguising himself in Nazi uniform, the Nazis as villains, a kid sidekick, a fight aboard a train, a chase through North African streets, a bit with crawling animals (this time eels), Indy & Marion doing their Raiders romantic scene and so on. But this time, they feel like copies of the originals rather than standing alone for this film. I also felt the movie was too long at two and a half hrs. as an Indy movie should be around two hours at most. I didn't hate Helena Shaw like most, yet my issue was how inconsistently written her character was (one minute she's putting Indy in danger, then at the midpoint, she randomly starts helping him). I also felt the rest of the characters were all forgettable. I love Mads Mikkelsen, but felt he was wasted as the villain. Even for all their flaws, Temple of Doom and Crystal Skull had more personality, standout action scenes, some quotable dialogue and engaging characters. Again, I liked things about it and it's not terrible, but given it's the final installment of one of cinema's greatest heroes, I expected a little better.

Keep it up, Joe! Love your content! Plus, I love the historical elements of Indiana Jones movies.

Indy fan for decades but i liked it. Wasn't amazing but it surprised me pleasantly

Indiana Jones finished with The Last Crusade! 🙌🏻 One of the best films ever!

I’m just glad people are reevaluating KOTCS. It’s flawed yes, but it still feels like an Indy movie

Glasgow, Italy. Nice one guys.

"Subverting our expectations ". The Ruin Johnson playbook.

Never seen Dial, never will.

I liked last crusade cause of sean connery

People are sick and tired of seeing new directors crapping on our heroes. Complain about Crystal Skull made a lot of money. Now they have Jones as a terrible, falling apart who needs a strong hateful woman to tell him he has been wrong.

How good was Indy 1? My girlfriend and I held hands while watching it. At the end of the movie, our hands ached from gripping so tightly.

Kingdom skull was the first movie I about walked out of if not for my buddy. I wouldn't piss on dial if it were on fire and it was..

$97 million in 1986 is $239 million today because of inflation. Still outrageously expensive, but to be fair...

Great video!

The ending was reshot.

Overlord was right.

The part in the movie where they mow down Roman soldiers with a machine gun had me laughing out loud

Yeah, how do the movies that Phoebe Waller Bridge “fixes” do at the box office?

"Crystal skulls, which many think are alien in nature." Then they show the goofy dude from Ancient Aliens. Buddy, he thinks everything is from aliens.

I know people disliked Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull, which Spielberg directed, but I would have been interested in seeing him direct Dial Of Destiny. It could have turned out better

I like Crystal Skull a hell of a lot more than most, and I’m really sad that Dial of Destiny robbed Indiana Jones of his happy ending. It just made him sad and jaded, and the film itself didn’t do much for me either. Many of the characters are forgettable, and even though Mads Mikklesen has some good ideas behind him, none of it really stands out much. I can’t remember most of the characters’ names. I really liked the flashback sequence at the beginning, but most of the stuff aside from the ending was ok but not spectacular.

What went wrong? Walt Disney Co.

It's the new alchemy, as Mangold is changed to Manlead.

After watching Dial of Destiny i left the theater in total shock and disbelief. I had high hopes, that it would at least be a little bit better than Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. To me Dial of Destiny is a low effort sacrilege. It's like they didn't even try to live up to the original 80's installments magic, trying to cash in on the name Indiana Jones alone. Is it really that hard to glorify an old hero of times passed? Top Gun: Maverick did it... why can't Disney?

I know Indy 4 is generally derided, but I enjoyed the interplay between Indy, Marion, and Mutt

The Director is right, the concept isn't that absurd. What the film lacks to be on par with its predecessors is that slightly horror and disturbing element that was there in every film

The one thing about the first 3 movies that drew people in was they faced the question of religion and long standing stories that had been around for 1000 years. the crystal skull and dial of destiny have no basis in history. Had they went for something like the spear that pierced Christ's side or some other legend from a religion then things would have went a lot better. Those things have affected people either by word or by life choices. A time machine, while fanciful , has never affected anyone or changed anyone's life.

I flocked to see the Indiana Jones 4 movie, and I was excited about parts of it and parts of it. I really did not like I do not want to see this last one. It's like a friend that has cancer. He's about to die, and you don't want to see it happen.

Price tag was actually 327 million which is worse.

The problem with The Dial of Destiny it suspended all reality and belief after the CIA killed his teacher friends and coworkers. When prior films did this Indy was either or taken hostage. Those situations gave writers a way out from one situation to the other and in a feasible way pushes the story along. So the death of the innocent. Wether its a sidekick (one of the reason I never really got into James Bond, was the killing off of his random assistants and side kicks). Although forced casual deaths were forgiven by the audience because Indy couldn’t help it, if he was kidnapped (Raiders of the Lost Ark) or if he was running for his life (Temple of Doom). But on Dial of Destiny Indy doesn’t reflect, wince or even try to recognize the CIA killed his innocent coworkers. Once the story abandoned Indy’s everyday retired professor plot point. The movie lost gravitas, and it seemed like a parody of Indiana especially in the Antonio Bandera middle of the ocean sailor. I feel asleep during that part, i actually forgot it happened until a rewatch. There was too much exposition in the Indiana Jones retiring professor sequence. Also making he CIA the enemy who’s secretly being used by an ex-Nazi…..too far fetched. This felt like 4 movie in one. Clunked together in one movie. The last crusade almost fell into this trap but it flowed smoothly due to the Indiana & father relationship. Dial of destiny did not hsve one major plot push it along. The entire time the audience is asked to suspend all belief and let the movie pay off. The ending felt put together it didnt flow from anything within the movie before. It assumes the audience knows Marion and their past (which is not bad….but it assumes too much). Crystalk Skull didn’t work because the villain had zero gravitas also treating Indiana Jones like a government agent when he was always the outsider proved to the fans that the filmmaker had no idea who Indiana Joses was or is….they were trying to rewrite the Indiana Jones folklore (I’d keep going on about Crystal Skull but this was a Dial of Destiny posting.😊)

The fact the Spielberg backed out of Dial of Destiny keeps me from watching it. I don't even want to give it a chance.

Short Round 2.0 was a misfire.

For myself, Indiana Jones ended with the last crusade. I have never watched the last two and I probably never will.

I noticed that you didn't mention when discussing alternate ending the fact that Karen Allen has stated in interviews that she wasn't in the final film at all. That she was brought in later during re-shoots and that Mangold has admitted to there being an alternate ending that was not included as extras on home media. Which does mean he did lie about never shooting an alternate ending.

There are 3 Indiana Jones movies, no more no less

Once they added Waller-Bridge, the movie was doomed. If there were a re-edited version of the movie, where her role was somehow reduced greatly, you could have a good movie. Especially if there were more Karen Allen instead. Ultimately, I agree with Bumbray. The franchise should have ended with "Last Crusade", where they literally ride off into the sunset. And yes, there will be further attempts to "reboot" or "re-imagine" Indy. Similar to Margot Robbie wanting to become Captain Jack Sparrow in the next "Pirates" movie.

No one wants to see an aging hero because it makes them feel vulnerable. I for one was glad to see the reality of the impact Indy had gone through in his life and the toll it took on his life.

I liked Dial Of Destiny simply because it had all the Indiana Jones elements. Such a vibe

I just came from the Indiana Jones Sub Reddit, where criticising this film is apparently a crime. The toxic positivity there about this movie is astounding. Don’t understand why people can’t accept that other people don’t have to like the same things they do. It’s completely fine to dislike this film, and talk about it. Just as it’s fine to enjoy it, and talk about that too. I thought it was a poor send off for the character. I wanted to see Indiana Jones, kicking arse for the last time. But instead what we got was some unlikable character, stealing the limelight, always having the final say, never really being wrong. And Indy just doesn’t do much in this film. It’s almost like he was a side character in his own film.

They stupidly decided to film it...and that's after they read the script. Thats what happened to this movie

I wish Mangold made a movie about that 1969 NYC. It was the most vibrant part of the movie, and it was supposed to show Indy as a sad sack.

Imagine if they Brought Short Round back, and then before the credits, they revisit the scene where Shia was about to try to put on the hat, only this time, it's SRhort Round, and he tries to hand it to Indy and Indy says "Keep it"

Disney and DEI/ESG cancer happened to it

You got a "downvote" from me for omitting that the final ending was redone AFTER the referenced OverlordDVD "Phoebe dons hat' rumors were posted, as John Williams himself has stated. Quit throwing your integrity away..

I never saw ANYTHING WRONG with having a darker theme for "Temple"....and if I have any criticism of "Last Crusade" it is that at times it's TOO light-hearted, comical and throwaway. It's precisely that "good vs. evil" dynamic of "The Temple of Doom" (plus the fact that it's an AWESOME film!) that makes it my FAVOURITE of the entire franchise.... In fact "Temple" itself has the PERFECT BALANCE between comedy and seriousness....

Dial of Destiny bothered me so much. I loved the part where they did the time travel thing. I HATED that she wouldn't just let him stay there. Like, what an ending that would have been. We never would have needed a follow-up movie

It made Crystal Skull look good. Which should be impossible. It is corporate cynicism and greed congealed.

(long comment as I talk about a few things from the video) _starts talking about Overlord DVD posting a video about bad test screenings_ Oh man I remember that channel, stumbled across one of their Star Wars videos a couple of years back and it felt like I was listening to a cult leader. O_o Don't remember the topic but it was some response to something Disney/LucasFilm did with Star Wars. The way they phrased their sentences combined with the extremely calm and almost assertive tone did not sit well with me at all. He called for fans to band together against something like a boycott or maybe it was to complain/spam about the leadership at the company. Left a couple of minutes in because I legitimately felt like I was somewhere I shouldn't be, it was the first & last time I got that feeling from a RU-vid video. Somehow, I'm not surprised that the rumors about the test screenings came from that channel. Anyways in regards to the movie itself: I said this on another RU-vid video but I place a lot of the blame on the marketing as well as just Harrison Ford being so old by this point. Leading up to Crystal Skull there was a massive push to bring the series back into relevancy especially for the next generation. The Star Wars Prequels just finished so a lot of people had their eyes on Indiana Jones for a variety of reasons. Lego sets for the series were now being made along with a video game retelling the stories which allowed a ton of kids (myself included) to get into the series. There were Halloween Costumes, cheap fedoras and toys like fake whips. This movie had standard marketing, there was no push to make the series big again so the only reason to see the movie is if you're already a fan, and there was no cultural drive to become a fan. It was just some old character getting a new movie. I mean no disrespect when I say this but Harrison Ford's age also played a part. In Crystal Skull he pretty much looked the same but with grey hair. He's clearly older but also clearly the same guy so any kid that likes Indiana Jones still recognized him in the role. Compare that to this movie where he looks like a grandpa and even kids would think he's too old for the role, assuming they recognize him without being told it's the same guy. This is only a problem because the budget was so huge that they needed the younger generation to see the movie. If it only cost 100M or less than it would've been fine. The movie itself was fine and Harrison is still great in the role but it took too long to get made. Would've done better a decade ago when the franchise was still relevant.

They could always make a film about The Adventures of Short Round, im sure he has had his own share of adventures over the years away from Indiana Jones

@18:14 "standing ovation" = literally 1 guy clapping

"A random RU-vidr" is an interesting way to describe Doomock xD

What happened.....The same thing that's happened to Star Wars....Disney

They’ll do a prequel and really put all of this to bed… like a corpse being wrapped in a mattress

Harrison Ford shafted his characters and fans in Indiana Jones and Star Wars all for the money.

21:00 Unforseen? Not in many circles of youtube and the internet my friend….

This video is an inspiration for new exploits and discoveries! Just incredibly cool! 💪🌟

"Here at JoBlo we do our research!" And in the next sentence mispronounces the Cannes Film Festival - one of the most famous and important film festivals in the world. But sure, JoBlo is American, so their way is the right way. Excellent researching, guys! Way to know your subject!

@10:51, much like literally everything else, hardly constitutes "time travel".

TL;DW - no Spielberg, KK self-insert, treating Indy like crap. Indy 5 did to Indy 4 what "Alien 3" did to Aliens (pooped on the fans)

I couldn’t even finish this movie. So sad. 😭

88% audience score on rotten tomatoes. Its good.

23min???? Surely this be three parter series to cover this cluster f***!!!