What Happened to KARD - The Biggest Kpop Group Korea Never Heard Of 

I hope we won't have to wait any longer

Yup only three members thoe somin doesn’t she was a bully

@@boraloves7761 wtf? Shut up hater

@@boraloves7761 wtf? Shut up hater

@@martinidirkamaregayares7070 I’m not a hater Bruhh I been stanning kard since debute somin actually did bully her imagen someone bullied u and nobody cares ?????

It's always, *the talented groups with extremely unique concepts= no wins*

A.C.E and Oneus as well

It is true

same here they are my ults and both have no music show wins sadly

Oneus too

Ikr! That's the most perfect timing I believe

Ah a blessing in disguise 😊

@@junebui6765 Something similar to that. Someone surviving a car crash is Glück im Unglück but that’s not a blessing in disguise.

@@junebui6765 nope, a blessing in disguise is just slightly different from "Glück im Unglück"

I think we have a similar saying in Dutch: geluk bij een ongeluk. :)

BM actually went through a really bad breakup, and just wanted to ditch everything - his ex, his traineeship, his life in Korea. Thank goodness the CEO asked him to be patient a while longer. And, like you said, KARD was born. One of the best things DSP ever did, in my opinion.

Yeah, it is noce to have a co-ed group. Lots of co-ed groups have done well over the years in the western markets. They defi itely have the talent. Let's hope they get a win after they reunite!

I think Jiwoo was asked to sing Oh Na Na in her audition and because they liked how well she mixed with the rest she was acepted.

@@belaytriks jiwoo sais she choose to signed with dsp because of oh na na. she want to make that song hers, because she really likes that song

I honestly don't think its a promo thing, I really think its cause they just don't fit whats expected, in vocals, coed and music.

@@cetriyasArtnComicsChannel I agree. I honestly feel that if BM changed his style he would attract even more female fans. He's very American style

@@arain764niara why bother changing for something unknown and jeopardizing what he already has? His fans love him for who he is so I honestly and solidly don’t think he should change just to fit in the Korean perceptions of boy idol. He’s who he is and let him be that way. You can’t get the America vibe out of him, he IS American!

@@khusyaiirie Here is the mic 🎤 Say it louder 🔊

@@khusyaiirie fr he doesn't need to change himself plus the Korean fans when I translate it, they literally love all of em💀💀👌🏽

And they did because of somin bulling Hyun-joo form April

@@boraloves7761 No proof of Somin bullying her

@@lorriwbu they’ll never move past her bullying scandal. people will say to just move on it’s the past but it’s super insensitive because they’re not the one who got bullied and it’s not only traumatizing for hyunjoo but it’s scary because her feelings are being invalidated because a lot of people are like it’s the past just move on they’ve changed. but the trauma is still there. she might have bullied her and there were a lot of lacking inconsistencies with the rest of the april members that didn’t add up and made any sense and that moment she was a part of april so she knows. she either bullied her as well or just didn’t say anything and as a leader that was so insensitive.

@@lorriwbu idk if youve really looked into a lot of articles regarding this issue but i’m aware that not really? if you have then you’d know the lack of consistency of what the rest of the april members said and they’re just going back and forth digging their own graves and saying things that just doesn’t make any sense.

They are popular to Latin countries. It just that Co-Ed Group and Kpop with Western style doesn't fit for Koreans and other asian countries.

they’ll never move past her bullying scandal (somin) people will say to just move on it’s the past but it’s super insensitive because they’re not the one who got bullied and it’s not only traumatizing for hyunjoo but it’s scary because her feelings are being invalidated because a lot of people are like it’s the past just move on they’ve changed. but the trauma is still there. she might have bullied her and there were a lot of lacking inconsistencies with the rest of the april members that didn’t add up and made any sense and that moment she was a part of april so she knows. she either bullied her as well or just didn’t say anything and as a leader that was so insensitive.

@@etherealchchan2752 nah u guys just believe anything u read my god. Tell me where’s the confirmed evidence of her and the rest of April bullying? Cuz I assume you’re just believing everything hyunjoo said and out of context clips

@@etherealchchan2752 u act like u were there and know what’s happening. Idk why u kpop fans act like u know the group personally and will just believe anything someone says. Kard is 4 if u don’t like it leave I’m not just gonna believe words and out of context clips like u guys

@@etherealchchan2752 still waiting for confirmed evidence not just he said she said and out of context clips and Koreans are literally still supporting April and finding flaws in hyunjoos stories so that should tell u something

Yeah trueee, I from Italy and I am not a big fan of Kpop but I discovered them yestarday and They are already becomed my favorite group and I am OBSESSED with them

YES! Say it louder to the one's in the back to hear! Lol They don't know we consume K-pop since long ago, cause they can't read our media, while we learn how to read theirs. lol

@@hayashihikari yesssss!!!

totally. i remember they had less than a year since debut and they did concerts in latam lol so cool!

They get forgotten so much. I'm from Europe and I feel like Latin America, eastern Europe and Africa always get forgotten while they have very big fanbases

They havent gotten a win bc u think they only started promoting in music shows like a few comebacks after their debut?

@@btsforever479 What?

@@btsforever479 dafuq ?!

@@strawberyicecube yup😭😭😭

And I'm afraid for them since somin's scandal

I remember him saying that. I think it's a large part of why he got into composing and producing. So KARD wouldn't need to rely on external talent, and could self-produce.

Yeah BM did mention that he made "Dumb Litty" to fit all the members equally. Not a gg or a bg song just... a song. I remember being so proud of him for that lmao.

But they have managed. Their choreos are diferent, the girls get to be sexy and powerful and the boys too

@@bruhjime2675 whoa.. had no idea BM is that much of a beast. Much more respect to him. Hope they get more recognition. They deserve it.

and theyre the only successful co ed group lol^

You & Me is honestly one of their greatest creations 😭😭 There is something about the whole mini album that has such a feel to it and you’re right there are literally no songs to skip over with how good each one is. I still listen to that whole masterpiece to this mf day 😩

She showed so much girl crush potential on Good Girl. I was hoping she would get another chance to showcase her talent while J.Seph was serving in the army.

@@MC-ko2mx She did. Jiwoo was on double trouble and her stage was always fantastic. I really loved all her performances. And a while back, she did a collab with CTO too.

he briefly talked about it on the 27 minute mark of the Get Real Ep.40!

perfectly said : ] there were rumors of a sub-unit with the girls since Enemy was so well received but I think the APRIL scandals might of affected that. We will see!

@@Pollo.a.la.crema. what scandal

@@Pollo.a.la.crema. WAJT R U THE GUY FROM THAT JUBILEE EPISODE OF KPOP FANS LMAO

@@rosy3447 OMG how did you reocognize me 🙈

Stan kard and everglow!

Dreamcatcher as well. Highly depend on international fans.

bro if homeland peps do not accept different music they have to take their music somewhere, where pep really appreciate and love thier art

@@biswajeetpillai1202 the only reason Koreans doesn't like Everglow is because of their company YueHua Entertainment which is a Chinese company and Koreans doesn't like China that much, I am pretty sure when Everglow start releasing songs in Chinese and Japanese, Korea will eventually hop on the wagon + plus it's kinda hypocritical of them because Koreans support WOODZ and Yena from IZ*ONE 💀 and no it's not that Everglow's concepts are bad

Agree the only difference is that eg have a little more recognition and sales but i hope they’ll both attract and gain domestic fans

You have to be more specific than latin america, I recognize brazil as a big place for kpop fans butt I don’t know anything after that

@@kun7288 kpop is very popular in Chile and Peru. In fact twice did a show in Chile in 2018 and Mexico in 2019. iTunes and Spotify are changing the picture. 22 % of Spotify users are in Latin America now, and the numbers are increasing.

@@pepuso like i said latin america is a whole CONTINENT plus mexico🙄 show me chile and peru stats or else I’m going to keep thinking you’re riding on the coattails of brazil😂

siendo yo de México, puedo confirmar jsjs ♡

@@kun7288 bruh, in which world do u live that u think Mexico is not part of Latin America??? There's no plus

they are well treated but not well-promoted. They are a senior grp with Significant presence in world kpop scene. the members are respected withing Kpop industry but They are never sent to kpop idol reality shows. They never been to Weekly Idol , Idol999 , studio choom etc. korean people use these shows to check out new groups. KARD's lack of promo in korea is affecting them man..DSP/RBW NEED to realize that.

idk about them getting all the attention in korea because of the somin bullying scandal as well. people will say to move forward bc it’s the past but for the person who was affected it’s not okay to invalidate their feelings just because some people think it’s okay for them and just be like move on it’s the past. she might have bullied her and there were a lot of lacking inconsistencies with the rest of the april members that didn’t add up and made any sense and that moment she was a part of april so she knows. she either bullied her as well or just didn’t say anything and as a leader that was so insensitive.

Hopefully covid is not as bad and they can promote and go on tour

@@etherealchchan2752 April? How is that group connected to Somin?

@@nankikaur7660 she was an ex member of April

@@etherealchchan2752 Somin was barely around april, she never wanted to be in that group and only was around when nessecary. It's DSP's fault for not giving someone who actually cared and wanted to be in that group the leader role. Plus she also was never mentioned as one of the bullies by Hyunjoo or her brother. So I don't think Somin really knew what was going on in that group.

I dont think they would disband before their contract ends, they make enough money internationally.

they’ll never move past her bullying scandal (somin) people will say to just move on it’s the past but it’s super insensitive because they’re not the one who got bullied and it’s not only traumatizing for hyunjoo but it’s scary because her feelings are being invalidated because a lot of people are like it’s the past just move on they’ve changed. but the trauma is still there. she might have bullied her and there were a lot of lacking inconsistencies with the rest of the april members that didn’t add up and made any sense and that moment she was a part of april so she knows. she either bullied her as well or just didn’t say anything and as a leader that was so insensitive.

@@etherealchchan2752 April members already moved on and DSP is suing for defamation. it was never proven in court and trolls like you continue to spread negativity, this is only a positive place for hiddens please excuse yourself

@@etherealchchan2752 STFU

@@etherealchchan2752 SHUT UP

they’ll never move past her bullying scandal (somin) people will say to just move on it’s the past but it’s super insensitive because they’re not the one who got bullied and it’s not only traumatizing for hyunjoo but it’s scary because her feelings are being invalidated because a lot of people are like it’s the past just move on they’ve changed. but the trauma is still there. she might have bullied her and there were a lot of lacking inconsistencies with the rest of the april members that didn’t add up and made any sense and that moment she was a part of april so she knows. she either bullied her as well or just didn’t say anything and as a leader that was so insensitive.

There is ONE Co-ed group that actually has made it but they are brother-sister - AKMU is the exception

I agree I love KARD a lot I hope they keep going and I really hope to see them win an award ❤

Ahh KOYOTE still exist.. It is one of the first gen coed group

LOOL please your name 😭

I think Korean people always prefer a certain concept for a kpop group. And those groups which are decided to go outside of the concepts (example: Ateez everglow, dreamcatcher etc. Just like you have said) Stays underrated in Korea. But thanks to their international fans who keeps the smiles in their face. (My english is not good)

Add ACE as well man!! Most of my faves be like untapped 😭

I think iKON too

@@paosbookcorner iKON is doing well in korea. love scenario becomes hits, they won daesang in 2018.

the way i stan Kard, DC, Ateez and Everglow 😭

Am from sudan, am not a fan but I definitely love their songs ✨❤️

They are popular among some kpop fans that I know

KARD is barely known where I’m from and my bias is BM. Hope you’re doing well Nathan during this rough time! Don’t feel pressured to make videos when you don’t feel like it, we will wait for you :)

My biases are Jiwoo and BM and I remember going to their last tour in 2019 and it was amazing!

Mine is BM! Y'all should listen to his song 13IVI

Same here

Somin one member of kard bullied a member from April called huyun joo

Wait she bullied hyun-joo from April and nobody cares wow that’s sad

@@kimjunkyu5331 how do we know that? Is there proof?

Not really any proof to prove that

at this point, theres about 6ish months left to wait? its not long

Exactly, @@cetriyasArtnComicsChannel! Maybe add a month or 2 for recording and rehearsal.

Is BM exempt since he's from the States?

@@emmakirton Yes

@@emmakirton Yes, I believe so.

they’ll never move past her bullying scandal (somin) people will say to just move on it’s the past but it’s super insensitive because they’re not the one who got bullied and it’s not only traumatizing for hyunjoo but it’s scary because her feelings are being invalidated because a lot of people are like it’s the past just move on they’ve changed. but the trauma is still there. she might have bullied her and there were a lot of lacking inconsistencies with the rest of the april members that didn’t add up and made any sense and that moment she was a part of april so she knows. she either bullied her as well or just didn’t say anything and as a leader that was so insensitive.

@@etherealchchan2752 this aged like milk. 1) DSP challenged it in court and actually won 2)Somin not only cleared her name, she went to Lee Mujin Service to Show the wprld her vocal flare. 3) KARD came back with their most successful comeback ever with RE

They were on a hiatus for almost a year and I was worried that the titkok rumor where "if they didn't receive a music show win, they'll disband" and them actually being MIA worried me that they disbanded. Well have to wait a little more for a comeback unfortunately :(

i think they said something abt not wanting to have a group comeback without J.seph and taking this time to focus on solo activities

But the members are promoting solo like bm.. So i wudnt worry tbh.. They're getting a proper rest

i mean if you think about after tae gets back from the military no one else has to leave since 1. bm is american and 2. jiwoo and somin are female

they would never do it, they gain a lot of money with tours and other events ^^ international fanbase and promotion is what many companies are focusing since it brings more money than only korea market

they’ll never move past her bullying scandal (somin) people will say to just move on it’s the past but it’s super insensitive because they’re not the one who got bullied and it’s not only traumatizing for hyunjoo but it’s scary because her feelings are being invalidated because a lot of people are like it’s the past just move on they’ve changed. but the trauma is still there. she might have bullied her and there were a lot of lacking inconsistencies with the rest of the april members that didn’t add up and made any sense and that moment she was a part of april so she knows. she either bullied her as well or just didn’t say anything and as a leader that was so insensitive.

They are popular to Latin countries. It just that Co-Ed Group and Kpop with Western style doesn't fit for Koreans and other asian countries.

No one wants to support them in Korea because of Somin and her bullying of Hyunjoo

@@Myumefulshut up

@@etherealchchan2752 dude do u have something against somin or u just don't want anyone to move on? And u are spreading false information so plzz stop spamming.

Deukae got two wins last year...kard came very close to winning in multiple shows in RE cb

There were a loooooot of co-ed groups in the 90s. Cool, Roo'Ra, Two Two, Sharp to name a few.

There was one to debut last year but I think they already disbanded

Co-Ed School is another gread co-ed group that I don’t see mentioned often

they’ll never move past her bullying scandal (somin) people will say to just move on it’s the past but it’s super insensitive because they’re not the one who got bullied and it’s not only traumatizing for hyunjoo but it’s scary because her feelings are being invalidated because a lot of people are like it’s the past just move on they’ve changed. but the trauma is still there. she might have bullied her and there were a lot of lacking inconsistencies with the rest of the april members that didn’t add up and made any sense and that moment she was a part of april so she knows. she either bullied her as well or just didn’t say anything and as a leader that was so insensitive.

@@etherealchchan2752 I really don't understand much about this scandal because at the time it happened i had stopped following kpop due to psychological problems :( but i’m sure all parties ended up harming themselves,both those who committed the bullying and those who suffered too…

They are popular to Latin countries. It just that Co-Ed Group and Kpop with Western style doesn't fit for Koreans and other asian countries.

@@sepinofrancis i guess is this too…

might also be because of her past bullying scandal with an april member. she might have bullied her and there were a lot of lacking inconsistencies with the rest of the april members that didn’t add up and made any sense and that moment she was a part of april so she knows. she either bullied her as well or just didn’t say anything and as a leader that was so insensitive.

@@etherealchchan2752 Don't make your fandom look stpid lmao

bro my heart jumped out my chest when i saw the title 🖐😭 i was “what do you mean what happened to kard”

Samee 😭 I got so scared

That’s right!

Which means she was one of Hyunjoo's bullies, yes? WHY is she still in there then?

@@TRaked yes she is one of them

@@TRaked Yall believe everything you see on the internet...

Yes she did bully her !! And nobody cares I saw the videos

they’ll never move past her bullying scandal (somin) people will say to just move on it’s the past but it’s super insensitive because they’re not the one who got bullied and it’s not only traumatizing for hyunjoo but it’s scary because her feelings are being invalidated because a lot of people are like it’s the past just move on they’ve changed. but the trauma is still there. she might have bullied her and there were a lot of lacking inconsistencies with the rest of the april members that didn’t add up and made any sense and that moment she was a part of april so she knows. she either bullied her as well or just didn’t say anything and as a leader that was so insensitive.

@@etherealchchan2752 I didn’t know somin was part of it too, she left April pretty early and I’m not sure she even properly debuted with them but I didn’t know she was still part of the scandal

@@lunacxx1330 The bullying apparently goes back to the predebut days which means somin was involved but just hasn't been doing it as long as the others. Even though nothing has been proved yet she's still being named as one of the bullies.

@@etherealchchan2752this person it's just spamming all the comments with this >< what Somin did to you to you hate her sm? stop being a bully when you don't even know what actually happened. You're just doing exactly what you're judging her for

@@etherealchchan2752 she was in the group for 2 month. *2 month* even before debut she was with the company for 5-6 months. She was not even ment to debut with April. Do u think all the members just start sat around one day and started bulling hyunjoo from day 1? No. It happened much later. And bulling starts from 1 and others follow it slowly. What hyunjoo faced was really terrible but let's not involve people who were not even present. Hyunjoo has not said anything about somin. But she has mentioned other members. Y do u think? If a victim finally gets the courage to confront the abusers, she is going to expose everyone and not sheild anyone. Just like the recent Mina aoa case. She also mentioned other members but not the ones that left. Most of the time the people who leave are not involved and are on the victim side. Y would a leader leave if she was so comfortable? Bullies like being with their victims because they start power tripping. She was the leader, it would have been very easy for her to cover bullying and take part in it. She would not leave. It's not logical at all.

Alas, wins are not determined by the company. I'd be ready to sue the entire industry for not taking more risks and making groups like these more of the norm. DSP could be doing more to help them, especially with the trouble they are having elsewhere with their groups. When BM said that their latest comeback was crucial because of company finances, that broke my heart because that just shouldn't be. The pandemic hit everyone hard, but if any group is pandemic-proof it's these guys. You have amazing potential on your hands. Get them on a Zoom call with their international fans and figure it out. But ultimately I've decided that k-pop companies are mostly trash, mismanage all of their talent, and if any groups are successful, it's because of the group themselves and despite their company. Here's hoping that KARD can persevere.

DSP is a kinda shady company, and I wonder if the company can do a better job but time will tell

Maybe you and Hyunjoo can team up.

Don't sue DSP, sue MSnake and its comrades

@@missright9159 The entire kpop industry is either a gamble if you're a small company or a free win based on superficial popularity if you're a big company. The stories of "good promotion and hard work leads to success" are SO RARE the only one I can think about is Mamamoo. Everybody else is just getting free fame without doing shit (Aespa) or working their ass off and eating dirt (Dreamcatcher, KARD, etc.) Most of this has very little to do with marketing or budget or talent, it's either a group with a free advantage from a big company's already established popularity, or something that people just magically happen to relate to at the moment (Weeekly's After School, the return of Brave Girls, etc.), was ROlling bad in the past and good today? No it's the same song, but because there's a social media push people jump on the band wagon. Apply the same logic to any group that starts off a step ahead because of reasons unrelated to their actual release and you get this weird storm of "undeserved" fame that they would NEVER HAVE if they were part of a company that didn't live rent free in knetz head.

omg u stan kard and loona 😭

@@sofia-ow8fq hell yeah since there song don't recall

DREAMCATCHER FINALLY GOT THEIR FIRST WIN

@@Cat-er4ss oh yes 😭 now we need one for KARD!

almost almost..got third places in The Show back to back 2 weeks as well as Third place on show champion. DSP gotta make timing better..of course kard can't win when competeing against BTS and Twice We lose in the live and pre voting....because Once and Army are such huge fanbases..even if 10% of them votes its more than enough to defeat us

Why is so difficult to get co ed groups to work

I know and they're songs are really good. I was so excited for 'You' cause I loved 'Drum' so much

@@boredmulti6821 it's because companies dont want to risk the fact members of the opposite gender could start a dating rumor. I think Co - Ed school had a dating rumor and that's probably why companies dont risk debuing a one of a kind group

@@reicords thats what I think is so strange, since fans be shipping memembers or people from other groups regardless

@@boredmulti6821 For one, it’s hard to always connect with the members of a group. Most of these groups predominantly have female fan bases that either find the girls to be relatable or the guys to be attractive. By having a co-ed group, you’re breaking that because it only further promotes shipping/dating rumors and the girls can’t imagine the guys falling in love with them. This makes the women in the group seem like a threat. And from the male fan perspective, a lot of guys don’t like supporting women (they’re definitely missing out though). So, they’re ok supporting groups like EXO, NCT, Monsta X, TXT, etc, But groups like Blackpink, Twice, Red Velvet, or men who aren’t afraid to show their feminine side like BTS are considered “bad” and you look “uncool” if you support them. Because of this, co-ed groups aren’t supported because of both the female members being present and the male members not exhibiting toxic masculinity. Because of issues like this, these groups can’t follow the conventional marketing tactics to get them publicity. They could try strategies like what Cube did with Troublemaker (in that, I mean acting like there’s romantic interests within the group). But that usually fails pretty badly. Personally, I think that a co-ed group would work really well with a lot of members. There was this group called “In10sity” on the X Factor USA and they were a co-ed group with 10 members. They gave off the feel of just being a bunch of friends making music together. That’s very relatable and can be marketed. By having these groups of only 4 members (2 of each sex), it honestly looks like an over glorified double date. I think that companies need to start making these groups with 6-12 members.

they’ll never move past her bullying scandal (somin) people will say to just move on it’s the past but it’s super insensitive because they’re not the one who got bullied and it’s not only traumatizing for hyunjoo but it’s scary because her feelings are being invalidated because a lot of people are like it’s the past just move on they’ve changed. but the trauma is still there. she might have bullied her and there were a lot of lacking inconsistencies with the rest of the april members that didn’t add up and made any sense and that moment she was a part of april so she knows. she either bullied her as well or just didn’t say anything and as a leader that was so insensitive.

Jiwoo is doing a lot of modeling gigs I think.

Waiting?

@@faizanahammed8138 lol

Waiting* sorry it auto corrected me

Nathen I think you forgot mentioned that somin bullied Hyun-joo from April

@@boraloves7761 what??

your comment aged like a fine wine.. check out ring the alarm

they’ll never move past her bullying scandal (somin) people will say to just move on it’s the past but it’s super insensitive because they’re not the one who got bullied and it’s not only traumatizing for hyunjoo but it’s scary because her feelings are being invalidated because a lot of people are like it’s the past just move on they’ve changed. but the trauma is still there. she might have bullied her and there were a lot of lacking inconsistencies with the rest of the april members that didn’t add up and made any sense and that moment she was a part of april so she knows. she either bullied her as well or just didn’t say anything and as a leader that was so insensitive.

BM has also be working extremely hard behind the scenes getting future music and samples produced.

they’ll never move past her bullying scandal (somin) people will say to just move on it’s the past but it’s super insensitive because they’re not the one who got bullied and it’s not only traumatizing for hyunjoo but it’s scary because her feelings are being invalidated because a lot of people are like it’s the past just move on they’ve changed. but the trauma is still there. she might have bullied her and there were a lot of lacking inconsistencies with the rest of the april members that didn’t add up and made any sense and that moment she was a part of april so she knows. she either bullied her as well or just didn’t say anything and as a leader that was so insensitive.

@@etherealchchan2752 are you just spamming the comments lol

@@elg2931 yeah i don’t have time to comment the same thing or interpret it differently. i just want to spread the word since people are always wondering why in korea they’re not getting recognition.

@@etherealchchan2752 no, you are just spamming. KARD didn’t receive recognition in Korea even before the unresolved scandal. Korean netizens immediately lashed out whenever there is a bullying scandal but pay no attention to co-Ed or artists when they don’t have any scandals. Also, there were so many inconsistencies and factors that made it super difficult with the case. We just all hope everything was resolved

Same here!