I think Lisa found out that pieces of history can still be stored in books even when reality is partially overwritten by irminsul. That "fiction" isn't as fictional as people were led to believe, and that is why she takes her duties as a librarian so seriously. Because she is guarding pieces of history that were otherwise overwritten and phased out of reality. So, even though most people see it as taking it easy and mostly slacking off, she is just being more clever to keep from notice about what she really is doing.
there's two things about Lisa that have DRASTICALLY changed how we should look at her with 1) the releases of Alhaitham and Kaveh and 2) Neuvillette's Vision story. 1) We knew she was exceptional at the Akademiya before Sumeru's release, but we now know that Alhaitham and Kaveh both were considered insanely talented geniuses during their time as students. We know from direct interactions how insanely smart and capable they are. And for Lisa to be ABOVE both of them? Is quite frankly mind-blowing. 2) After finishing the Fontaine Archon Quest, we can read in Neuvillette's Vision Story how the Gnoses were made, but also how the *Vision distribution* works. I have a feeling that Lisa found out about the following from his Vision story: "And when one so gifted completed their duty... the gift the gods would receive in return would be more abundant still." I think Lisa discovered what actually happens, and has been laying down low ever since to make sure she 'doesn't complete her duty' and thus doesn't trigger this part of the system.
We should add Faruzan too. Because if Lisa was the most gifted students they've seen since the last 200 years, that would surpass even Faruzan who went lost 100 years ago.
@@faerieinwonderland Faruzan is one of those characters too where I just REALLY want to know more! Unfortunately too, so much of her story seems to be almost entirely lost. I did a coverage of her time trapped within the ruins, but even then, much around this time period, and even the events prior before her time being entrapped, have become hazy... I really hope to see more of her soon though!
Lisa is definitely the prime example of being MUCH more than she likes to bring on... Not only is she incredibly intelligent, and vastly superior in the arts of magic than MOST characters we have encountered, but she is so incredibly powerful, that she can summon LIGHTNING STORMS just for being angry! I would love to see her have a moment where we really get to see her in action! As we also know that she is basically Monstadts mainline defense when something magical or some sort of "strange" issue arrises that reaches above what typical soldiers could be sent for... Again. Her not being a 5 star HURTS... So many characters during the first two major versions really slipped by on having the status they deserved!
At this point we can only make assumptions, but some lore bits might give us some clues. Regarding the type of knowledge she might have come across by studying the Elements with her Vision's help: 1) La Signora was in the same academic department as Lisa and Cyno, she studied some forbidden Elemental arts, and yet it didn't frighten her as much as what Lisa discovered. So we can assume that Lisa's discovery is beyond the "forbidden" tier, i.e it's either about the Truth of Teyvat, Celestia, the Abyss, the Descenders, or outer-Teyvat beings (Skirk, Surtalogi, etc). But whatever it is, it could be enough to mean great destruction or horrible death for those who discover it. 2) Though Lisa has no feat, there's a lore bit about her that should be graded WAAAAY higher than whatever most characters have done so far: Lisa was literally *INVITED* to join the freaking HEXENZIRKLE! Not as someone's apprentice, not as a placeholder for a dead master... she was asked to have her own seat at the table. And, what's more disturbing, she REJECTED them, saying it wasn't her style. Now, we all know that the Hexenzirkle's witches fields of activity are never normal day-to-day fields. The Primordial Human (Gold), the Irminsul (Nicole), Teyvat's Fate (Barbelotte), Teyvat's borders (Alice)... all these fields are in direct touch with the Truth about Teyvat, Celestia and Genshin's cosmogony. So there could be only one reason for Lisa to be directly invited by the Hexenzirkle even though she's so young and got no feats (apart from her thrashing academic records): the Hexenzirkle knows that Lisa discovered something beyond common mortals' understanding; they know it's something about the Truth of Teyvat and it's on the same level of the fields they're all taking care of; they know that whatever Lisa discovered belongs to a field (an aspect of Truth) that none of them are studying or pursuing (hence why they need a new Witch to study it, instead of an apprentice like Mona). Regarding the reason why she left the academy after only two years even though she was at her peak, I've two speculations (both backed up by in-game material): 1) After her frightening discovery, she wanted to lay low. If whatever she found in her research involved Celestia, then maybe she feared that Celestia noticed she found something she shouldn't have. Orobashi's story tells us that Celestia somehow managed to learn about him reading "Before Sun and Moon", and chose to send him attack Inazuma so Raiden would execute him. Maybe Lisa feared something along those lines might happen to her (the gods are supposed to be omniscient, no?), so she decided to retire and give up on her future incredible fame. In her final ascension voiceline, she says she has told us many times she was actively hiding who she is and what she's capable of. But why would she be hiding and from whom she's hiding, she doesn't tell. 2) Maybe she noticed that something was wrong about Azar and the sages a while ago, either knew she couldn't do anything about it or had foreseen that the Dendro Archon would finally decide to act as she would not be really pleased, and so she left before the big thing happened. Lisa says she saw hunger for knowledge drive people crazy, so she didn't want to follow that example. And the Sages plan was nothing short of delusional intellectual gluttony, so maybe that's what she refers to by saying that. Also, Cyno's story says he noticed something was wrong with the Akademiya and the researchers when he became a matra (ie when he geaduated, the same year as Lisa). As smarter and more cunning than him as she is, we could very well picture Lisa noticing something off. The fear her research struck inside her would just be the last push she needed to make her mind up and leave. Sorry if it's so long. And remember it's only speculations based on what I understood from the game and its lore 😊 I edited some grammatical mistakes and added a few words to make it more clear, but there might still be some errors (English isn't my 1st language).
She definitely learned something that would greatly improve and enhance the research the hexinzircle are doing. And whatever *that* is, is why she left and chooses to guard fictional books as a librarian. She became as strong as those witches and her knowledge is just as useful. If her leaving was primarily discovering what dottore was doing and the whole Nahida situation, i feel hoyo wouldve added an unlockable voiceline for sumeru’s archon quest. Whatever she knows, whatever power she tapped into, far exceeds anything we already know. It wouldn’t be a spoiler to tell us she found out irminsil is broken as heck because we already know that. So whatever hoyo is holding off on, is something that, for story reasons, can’t be talked about yet as its too premature. For eg; we learn more about nicole after we already experience something to do with her field. So she gives us some sub information to the information we’ve already acquired. The same how we learn a little more of rhein and her work after coming across more of her dead/synthetic/monster children. Weird how we know more of those faceless witches abilities more than we know lisa’s abilities. Its most likely because we have yet to come across info that lies in her field of expertise. Which has to tie into why she left since she wont even use it. Edit; just adding onto the conversation, I think your points are very good.
@@The1andonlysharpshooter regarding the Akademiya, I didn't include Il Dottore because such an interaction between the two of them would have surely been already spoken about in-game. That's why I only focused on the Sages' part of the matter. As a brilliant student, she would obviously interact with them on a daily basis, so that's why I think she could've noticed something. Regarding her abilities, we've only clues on them, but those clues point to the fact that she's way more powerful than your average Vison holder. Mona is powerful enough to beat Fatui directly assigned to Scara, and yet she's still an apprentice. While Lisa is a full-fledged Witch, so she's way stronger than her. From Mona's voicelines, from La Signora's lore, and from her own story, we know that as a Witch she doesn't actually need a Vision to control the Elements, even though a Vision makes it easier. She can create multiple (count in the hundreds at least) magical trackers for her books, and she can sense and track said books from extremely far (known from her quest) to prevent them from being stolen. Besides, we learn in her quest that her control over Electro is much more powerful and concentrated than what an Abyss mage is used to see (remember there are Electro lectors and Abyss mages). It's even backed up in gameplay, since her Elemental Skill has the highest scaling in the whole game (the last time I checked at least, dunno if Yelan or Navia surpassed her since then). But all that only tells us that she's capable of more than she shows, but Hoyo doesn't go any further. If we really are to come back to Mond at the end of our journey, maybe that's when most Mond's characters will really show what they're capable of.
@@nicolas._.2294 thank you! It's been on my mind for a while, like "Why are there so many powerhouses in Mond (Lisa, Klee, Diluc, Kaeya, Jean, Eula, Alice, Mona, Albedo) and yet there's so little info about them, just like their god?" and "How does new lore info apply to old characters?"
@@joyhammer3148 I agree she’s strong, my point wasn’t to refute that. My point was to enhance that point specifically ^ which is why I compared her to elites (the witches) and not just mere vision holders. As for the locked dialogue option I brought up, I never said it had to be Dottore but simply something to do with sumeru and the akademiya or anything the sages did. A lot of characters have these locked dialogues that cant be heard until after a chapter but it’s not always character specific but just quest specific. Kind of like Neuvillette’s about claiming back his authority. Which is why I said I doubt her leaving was prompted specifically by anything the akademiya did. And whatever it was is still very unknown to us the traveller. As we, discover things about powerful characters, by experiencing their field of expertise for ourselves first. Or indirectly follow their story. Whichever comes first. Edit; and this isn’t to say she somehow did *not* find out what they were up to, I’m saying there is still a possibility that wasn’t what drove her to leave. She might’ve thought they were crazy but it wasn’t the driving force to compel her to leave. If it was, she would’ve told us by now through an unlocked dialogue. It would reference the sages and whatnot. Considering she is literally as powerful or even more as the witches, the way we will discover more about this and her capabilities will undoubtedly be through indirectly meddling in her expertise. Where she will then help us. Similar to when her books were stolen. Hope you understand what I was trying to get across.
Now that we know how visions are granted, Lisa may have discovered it too. Understanding that having vision is a Greek gift. The power that the allogen gains, doubles the power that Celestia has over Teyvat. Plus, she may have discovered what Azar and the sages were doing to Nahida. Because Shouki no Kami certainly wasn't built overnight. Dottore should have been working with them for several years.
0:46 YES. She deserve be 5* I'm really Lisa's stan and i need more info about her. She is really powerful and i really impressed how on the start of the game when Mondstadt faced disasters for Jean was enough to calm down Lisa's words what she is here and will do everything in her powers. It's one of reasons why I think what Lisa Minci alone was pretty able to deal with crisis. She have power, but she don't want to use it. But save Mondstadt, this beautiful paradise of freedom, it's what could make her to do it
Hi SekaiSamurai I love this video about Lisa I think that you maybe right about Lisa seeing something so terrible it changed her mind to who she is today Keep up the good work SekaiSamurai 👍 ✌&🤘
I'm doing great @@sekaisamurai Thank you for all the lore videos you make ❤ I hope one day you make a lore video about Dehya and how she got her vision as well
i definitely think it has more to do with these couple things. 1: neuvillette confirmed that visions don't come from the archons, but from Celestia. 2: this makes it seem more like Celestia realized the danger lisa posed, and did everything they could to slip her a vision at the right time before she learned the truth about them, so now she's under their control. 3: mona's line about lisa explains a lot. "A Tempus Fugit... The constellation derives its name from the hourglass, and stands for knowledge and time - or rather, the trade-off between them. As each grain of sand falls down, a moment of time - of life, even, dies for good. To stop the unrelenting flow of sand, one would have to turn the hourglass on its side. But once the sand comes to rest, it remains motionless forever... Hmm, maybe "becomes lazy" is more accurate than "comes to rest," in this case."
