Ya know Malcador, for a smart dude you really stuffed this one up. At least the Thousand Sons would have found it funny. Grab the Lord of Night and other epic Majorkill mini's here : majorkill.com/ Or enter the forbidden paradise here : www.patreon.com/majorkill
Majorkill; 1) can you please find a way to bring back timmy 2) can you make a what if series about the emperor in our universe. The setting should centre unification, the only difference is our universe. You can choose wjat ever cool war period; napoleon wars, cold war era, the world wars, current state of affairs or roman n greek war periods The catch should be the powers should be caped. The emperor can stil hav super soldiers, but at the level of captain america. And the weapons should be grounded as wel
Leman Russ and his Space Wolves do see themselves as the self-proclaimed "Executioners of the Emperor" and they end up alienating their own allies who wanted nothing to do with them especially at the end of the Horus Heresy. That gave Russ a wake up call to change his Space Marine Legion from self-styled watchdogs to noble barbarian heroes who are always there to help their allies when they're called.
Nah the cover is convincing everyone that they are drunk barbarian brawlers who haven't got a lick of common sense. Meanwhile superpillage fleets for a single chapter that had more available resources than legions in their heyday, apparently have genelabs capable of fixing a gene-flaw in space marines (until magnus screwed it up) and somehow have a presence that seems to cover half the imperium despite only being a single chapter. I mean technically if you want to cover an effective chapter I have to say the Wolves might be sleeper OP with how cost effective they are and ridiculously competent they were in a variety of things you just wouldn't expect from space viking furries. I mean overall effectiveness probably goes to Ultramarines and their successors, or maybe Imperial Fists but that has a lot to do with just how many there are in comparison.
Quick thing: they were the Emperor’s Executioners because they were assigned planets that had resources but population compliance was not worth the time. They weren’t the executioners because of the primarchs or space marine killing, it was because they literally hunted down and killed while cities in a week
@@uriel005 I agree that the Ultramarines are probably on top in terms of cost effectiveness, but certainly not the Imperial Fists. I don't know why, but them and the Blood Angels always seem to have ridiculously high casualties in almost every story, be it official or fanfic. The Space Wolves themselves have also taken a little bit of a beating in the lore since 2018. They went from losing a whole great company during the Fall of Cadia to Uncle Magnus paying a visit to being forced to shift a bunch of their warriors into two newly formed successor chapters. It was not as bad for them as it was for the Blood Angels, but still not a great time. :
@@GodlordBazi Effectiveness not cost effectiveness. As for why the Fists and their successors are up there the Fists have the Black Templars and their crusades overall have been up there as far as useful things Astartes have done. Let alone the fact that the fists and their successors overall are relatively widespread being one of the more stable gene-lines not having the issues of say the blood angels or the wolves just being capped to one larger and possibly closer than the imperium would be comfortable with to small legion sized. Also the Ultramarines and their successors definitely don't top the chart in terms of cost effectiveness. Again overall effectiveness probably but as far as punching above their weight? They are just hurt by being so numerous and having the average pull them down. Also yes the wolves founded a bunch of successors but they also replenished their own ranks.... its not like they just gutted the original chapter and called it a day. Also the successors still operate more or less under Logan at this point withh the whole point of handing out members of the original chapter being to tie the successor's to them. Logan basically does this with Roboute's go-ahead when he asked him in the Dawn of Fire novel if he (Roboute) was going to just trust him with several thousand new astartes and the methods to create more. Roboute's response was just yeah imma trust you. It also kinda ties into how Roboute thinks he might have dropped the ball with splitting the legions up.
It would be cool to see some sort of conversations between the angel and Russ where the angel could boast about the wolves that thought along side of him. Give the cover up a story
Always found it a little funny, rebellion breaks out, and Maclador "I know, I'll send a small squad of marines to watch each one of these demigods" that will stop it from getting worse.
Hmm that guy called Erebus named after one of the Greek primordial deities who was the personification of darkness and shadow, brother-husband of Nyx and son of Chaos, seems like a real swell guy guess we may as well go home our work is done
If Vulkan and the salamanders had a watchpack, I bet they would just had a mighty hug, then shared mugs of Mjod , cus the moment the space wolves arrived at Prometheus, they would be like "Wait, why are we here again?"
on one hand the watch pack assained to watch salamanders was all a humongous waste of time and it amounted to nothing more than paranoied idiocy. second only to the pointless monitering of the imperial fists but on the other. i'll bet the other space wolves must be feeling enviously butthurt that they didn't join in the party that the dragon bois whole heartedly welcome the pack.
honestly I would like to see some more team ups between the two chapters. the only " specialized legions" that remained loyal out of the three there were, and the only astartes that don't have their old lives wiped from their minds during psycho-indoctrination. they are two of my favorites and it just seems like fun would be had and more innocent populations would be saved
Video idea : lore on the different ages of the imperium, lore on Ork gargants, list of every squig type, list of titan legions and knight houses, space marines squads, lore on the codex astartes, the imperial navy
Man how are you gonna leave out that bludbrother got Guilliman so drunk he slept in the next day with a hangover. Probably the only space marines to ever get drunk with another legions primarch.
Tbh Star Wars Lore channels started dying not because they have a lack of lore content (I would even go as far as to say that Star Wars has mor elore content than WH40k) but because disney decided to put the old Expanded universe under the guillotine and supplement it with less and worse lore in 9 out of 10 cases.
sad thing is that the older fan base would eat that shit up honestly the Expanded universe of starwars is a gold mine of kick ass stories its almost like they are afraid to do stuff not already done in the movies or shows also think they are aiming too much at the younger generations when the real money spenders and hardcore fans are the older generations
@@whitejack9032 to be honest starwars was always considered "woke" the whole prequel trilogy like look at the motherfucking Ewoks in T.E.S.B but what got me was them using the same rewashed plot out of about 5 of the 9 movies it was them drying to destroy a massive planet killing weapon they have all this lore and dont use it
@@gannonfrank Yes, there were always elements that were like this in every movie, but George Lucas haven’t discarded good characters and stories for them.
Would love to have some lore about the Watch Pack that got sent to the First Legion. You can bet that when the Lion learned he was going to have to play host to a bunch of Space Wolves, he would be less than pleased.
Just finished The First Heretic last night and from what I saw Big E sent 15 Custodes to the Word Bearers after Menarchia. They stayed with the legion for 49 years but were separated between the 3 expedition fleets under Lorgar
I hate a LOT of the writing for Raven Guard during the Horus Debacle. It felt very very grimderp, like the writers just overly trying to make them edgy (and resulting in Marines that were super cringe and retarded) and trying to hard to give them a sad heavy backdrop. It's funny that one of Majorkills favorite moments (when Corvus sucks a word bearers ship into the warp, via his translation wake, without gellar field on) is in one of my least favorite HH books, Deliverance Lost. I love that moment in the book as well, but I feel like the rest of the book is some of the worst space marine/legion lore writing ever.
Well, a spoiler warning here The Raven Guard raptors were pretty justified because the SW revealed their wulfen curse and the raptors immediately said, "oh cool we're alike!" But the SW called them abominations and mutants while saying the wulfen are actually perfectly normal and a gift of fenris. The SWs WERE going to say some shit about Corvus and the raptors had no choice but to silence them
As a thousand-sons simp, I always like to see these damned ones get wrecked. Although a part of me wants to see them reconcile and be buddies again, and strike out against mortarion and the Death Guard who were basically the ones responsible for their feud to begin with.
Feel so bad for those assigned to the Raven Guard, what a rotten luck and sad ending, but to be fair almost each one mentioned in this video can claim to have a fate as tragic.
I'm not a big fan of the Wolves at all. But man, if the leader of Watch Pack Bludbruder isnt a badass I don't know who is. Besides his Primarch and Bjorn, Fafnir Bludbruder is genuinely one of the only few Wolves I respect.
@@OljeiKhan No. We only like them when they're not ravaging dogs who kill things all the time. Even other Astartes and civillians and then laugh about it :/
@@ironduke5058 read prospero burns, it might change your mind. theyre aware of their role as executioners and do whatever is asked of them but they dont enjoy murder for its own sake.
@@javik1929 Prospero burns is exactly the book I'm talking about lol. There's this scene where a squad of Wolves are on their way down to the planet and the squad lead is giving the Marines a talk, telling them that what they're about to do isn't something to be done lightly and such. He couldn't hold his smurk and then the whole squad started busting out laughing like it was funny. At that point i was like cmon Then there was another scene where one of the Thousand Sons comes to this same squad leader to surrender and is willing to stop fighting because he didn't know wtf was going on. The wolf then proceeds to put a plasma shot through his chest and his last words were "Why Wolf? You're being a fool". So no, Prospero burns won't help lol, they're animals. The only acception being their Primarch (sometimes)
Aside from their loyalties they're also considered the Emperor's Executioners. Space marines who are more than willing and capable of killing other space marines. Which was incredibly difficult to conceive of up until the Heresy kicked off
So, on the one hand... "Malcador, how do you know that Leman's Legion will not turn traitor?" "He is a Good Boy." Leman with a ball in his mouth in the background, making happy wolf noises And on the other... I can only imagine the face of a Space Wolf being told that his squad is allowed to kill a Primarch if he turns traitor. Oh Shit does not even begin to cover it.
@@xinzhao2748 dude, enough! how about Logan Grimnar Vs Angron? huh? yeah you forgot that didn't you. not even a god level primarch and did pretty much the same thing as Sanguinius!
So the Chaos Marines got their codex and some lore tid bits. Umm I think the Alpha Legion got confirmed loyalists because how the feth do they have agents everywhere, have stable uncorrupted geneseed, and rarely take massive losses but somehow the Black Legion has more despite their "mighty tactical mastery" of throwing as many people into a meat grinder top knot first. I don't care if most renegades go to them because what that's like what at 100 guys cause it doesn't exactly happen often or instantly.
I’d argue with your beginning point that Star Wars has less content than war hammer. At least when it comes to the old expanded universe, there’s literally thousands of books and comics and games. Of course Disney killed all that. Don’t worry I’ll put this here before anyone replies with it 🤓
It would be interesting to see the other watch packs on traitor legions and see what they delt with like the watch pack on the thousand sons would probably be put in a doctor strange kind of battle where reality becomes heretical, to battle Emperor's children in a heretical game of guitar hero, to playing a normal game of Warhammer with Perturabo and his Iron Warriors
I’d like to see a video (if there is one by this or another creator please let me know) on Russ’ attempt to kill Horus. It’s one of the more confusing things in HH for me, as it seems really stupid and reckless but maybe it actually did help? But surely having Russ and the wolves at terra would have been best strategy? And how was this act viewed by his brothers?
the Wolves fight Different, they move to take the head off the snake. they aren't really defenders waiting for an enemy to come to them. and as far as they knew it was a good plan. I'm sure Russ felt it was the best move right up until he had Plunged his spear into Horus's chest and he didn't die because of warpy daemon fuckery. if whatever unknown powers had not kept Horus alive unnaturally then the Heresy would have come off the rails right there and Russ would be the big hero of the war. but, you know, plot armor
I thought that the watch packs were more trip wires, rather than anything productive. They were not able to kill the primarch, but when they stopped reporting in the Malcador would know that something is up
Corvus: oh wow a watch pack i must be so loyal and trusted by the emperor that I wouldn’t need such a thing. Raven guard who murdered the watch pack shuffles to the back of the line
I always found the whole watchpackthing really odd and pointless; as if a squad of Wolves would be able to take out a Primarch with his Legion all around him. Really wish GW had made an effort to try to make the Horus Heresy books more consistent and coherent.
Thank god someone else gets the back up empire wasn’t heresy….it was the only play with the info available an was most importantly when new info came Out it was immediately dismantled an help was sent with all due haste to terra
“…. Diplomats of Russ” Well that’s a bit of an oxymoron now isn’t it, the galaxy would look much different if the Space Wolves and Russ knew that diplomacy was
I dont know he can be pretty diplomatic when he want's to be "The Wolf King paused. He swallowed. He seemed to be considering his next words. ‘That’s not why I’m talking to you now. I’m talking to you because I hope you’ll listen. I’m talking to you as the personal courtesy extended from one brother to another. What is about to happen should not be happening. You know I do not want this. You know it tears my heart to commit against you, and it breaks the very soul of our father to place his sons in opposition. But you have done this. You have brought this. You have brought this action.’ Russ swallowed again. He looked down at the deck, though he was still directing his words at Hawser. Hawser stood numb, shaking, rooted to the spot. ‘We gave you every chance, Magnus. We indulged your learning, we gave you room to explore. When we became fearful of where those explorations were leading you, and how they might endanger everything we value, we told you of our concerns. The Council at Nikaea, that was supposed to be a moment of reconciliation. You swore you would renounce the cunning arts. You swore! You swore you would abide by our father’s ruling!’ His voice dropped to a whisper. ‘You did not. You have proved your intent to ignore the Ruling of Nikaea beyond all doubt. So this is on you. You must have known our father’s hands would be tied. He would have no other option than to turn to me to issue sanction.’ Russ looked up into Hawser’s eyes. ‘This is a courtesy, then. From brother to brother. A grace period I would extend to no other enemy. Settle your affairs. Evacuate the civilians from your cities. Deactivate your defence systems. Bring yourself and your Thousand Sons out into the open, and prepare to surrender to me upon my arrival. Please, Magnus. The Wolves of Fenris have been unleashed upon you. Only you have the power to make the consequences bloodless.’ He rose to his feet. ‘Please, Magnus. Please.’ "
Maybe actually read the books, the whole point of leeman is that he's a man masquerading as a beast, while the lion is the opposite, the savages are the lion, horus and guilliman, they just hide it most of the time. Leeman is closer to rogal than he is to angron. In fact I'd go as far as to say that leeman is the most well adjusted and calm primarch along with khan, corvus and vulkan.
The rubric marines are basically regular space marines that have, for lack of a better term, undergone “biotransference”. As in, they’re basically soul dust trapped in suits of armour that can never really die. They’re pretty hard to kill as far as marines go, but when they are brought down all the dust spills out everywhere. Gal Vorback were the first large scale unit of Possessed CSM, and were unleashed on Isstvan 5. Basically, Konrad took one look at them and (in my opinion) instantly regretted stepping in to save Lorgar from Corax.
A few lines from some of the books and short stories say that The Emperor and Malcador planned on the heresy happening, I'm curious as to which sides they had originally thought would be loyal vs traitor.
I think Loyalist Sanguinus Horus Lion Corvus Magnus Dorn Ferrus Russ Traitor Jaghatai Gulliman Konrad Angron Lorgar Perty (?) Not Sure Those 2 primarchs Fulgrim
Can we get a video on the nuance of how the seperate races/factions think or interact with eachother beyond just fighting. Like how Eldar and tau interact, the philosophy the Necron has on the ork, how khorn followers view the tyrannids, ect...
Can you talk about how Russ took the spear of the Emperor to intercept Horus and the confrontation and fight with them both and how Horus says Russ was better than him at fighting or good enough to beat him and kill Horus after they spoke for a while then what happened next was crazy
Kudos MajorKill, you really aren’t talking shit when you say you’re not going to run out of lore ideas. Really love the vids man. Please look into this Old Ones created humanity thing, time lines for that seem sus to me because it should have happened after the war in heaven. If so for what purpose
