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What happened to the Voodoo Boys? 

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Word on the street about what happened to the Voodoo Boys in Cyberpunk 2077. Maybe we'll learn something more definitive in future.
Other notes:
- Alt discusses the deal but never states that she agreed with the VDBs.
- According to Alt the VDBs could potentially be fighting on the side of 'free AI' so maybe Jean's cousin was lost in some other conflict.
- Jean states rumours so take information with a grain of salt.
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@jinguzu
@jinguzu 2 года назад
"What happened with the voodoobois?" - Tactician shotgun and a bouquet of grenades turned em into fine mist. Also look at this cool coat i got!
@SirPlocks
@SirPlocks 2 года назад
I just punch all their heads into puddles also got a neat coat to
@franzjoseph1837
@franzjoseph1837 2 года назад
@@ArchSight I mean technically Evelyn messed with them. They gave her a simple task to collect the virtue then bring it to them....she ended up biting off more than she could chew
@kami_vega
@kami_vega 2 года назад
@@franzjoseph1837 shhhhhh, i'll take any excuse to handle them for the shit they pulled
@jacobanderson6551
@jacobanderson6551 2 года назад
I nonlethaled them then shot them in the head for double the exp.
@adelkheir
@adelkheir 2 года назад
@@ArchSight There's no arguing that Evelyn screwed up royally with both the voodoos and dex with her trying to convince you to screw him over. She thought that she could outsmart both. Buuut on the other hand the voodoos are the ones who kicked off the whole shitstorm with the relic and preeeetty much turned V's whole life upside down not to mention trying to kill you off TWICE and the death of Jackie. And on top of that they have the gall just the bare cheek to not only not caring about anyone they would screw over but also feel insulted and angry when you call them out on their bullshittery. Yeah, well nobody's going to miss them when they are the ones who get the shit end of the stick.
@Riverboat374
@Riverboat374 2 года назад
I sided with the Voodoo Boys in my first play though. Then they screwed me at the wall. Then I realized the whole thing - Jackie, Evelyn, it was all them. I've murdered them on every play though since.
@MrWongWey
@MrWongWey 2 года назад
Backstabbing someone who solo entire platoon’s of gang members is the dumbest shit you can do.
@svenschwingel8632
@svenschwingel8632 2 года назад
To me, the only thing that separates the Voodoo Boys from the Scavs is their origin. And I don't discriminate when taking out scum.
@Yusuke_Denton
@Yusuke_Denton 2 года назад
In my playthrough I didn't intend to backstab them but Netwatched followed me and Alt killed them all. Happy little accidents.
@DanStaal
@DanStaal 2 года назад
First play through I was 'I keep my word as a merc', so stayed with the contract I'd been hired for. Then the Voodoo boys screwed me over. Now it's Netwatch. He does what he says he'll do - and doesn't hurt you in the process, even if he slipped in a bit extra.
@BraindeadCRY
@BraindeadCRY 2 года назад
Same. The Voodoo Boys get elmiminated with extreme prejudice on all my playthroughs after the first.
@keqet12
@keqet12 2 года назад
I love how they shamelessly put on this better than you act even after lying to you twice. The only acceptable outcome is their total extermination.
@MrViki60
@MrViki60 Год назад
based and redpilled
@Foxxie0kun
@Foxxie0kun 2 года назад
In Night City you've only got two things that matter, your word and your metal. Someone breaks their word to you, you have the moral obligation to show them exactly what your iron, lead, and chrome are good for, chooms.
@Ecliptor.
@Ecliptor. 2 года назад
That's pretty much what happened to Evelyn.
@TheSeventhEnd
@TheSeventhEnd Год назад
@@Ecliptor. I wish I could disagree but you're right. It sucks. She didn't deserve what happened to her.
@KiraSlith
@KiraSlith Год назад
One of the reasons I like Alt and Delemain. Even when they technically hold all the cards, they stick to their word no matter what. Funny how that played out. Seems like even escaping Night City into the net behind the Blackwall is better than sticking around that hellmouth of a city.
@ryszakowy
@ryszakowy 11 месяцев назад
i've got my word and my balls and i don't break either for anyone i never fucked over anyone in my life who didn't had it coming man tony montana would thrive in night city
@Joker2CoLex
@Joker2CoLex 2 года назад
I zeroed all of them for trying to set me up.
@GutsTheStoner
@GutsTheStoner 2 года назад
Then I took placides coat and helped neo in the matrix .hah
@sussy_61
@sussy_61 2 года назад
wait, you can kill them?
@SoftExo
@SoftExo 2 года назад
@@sussy_61 You can side with netwatch, which will fry a bunch of em in the netrunning chairs, or you can play along and draw a gun on Brigitte after you come out of the ice. They try to kill you twice and run their mouths on Evelyn, no surprise when folk wipe out that crypt and church.
@sussy_61
@sussy_61 2 года назад
@@SoftExo i see thanks, spent 400hrs and didnt even think abt this, i hate voodo boys
@gamersanonymous4me131
@gamersanonymous4me131 2 года назад
VooDoo Boyz were bad news, first they are always trying to extort money from people (you get this by opening computers all over NC, and seeing threats to blow your head off if you dont send money to an undisclosed sender-who is a hacker that could do that except the VDBs?), second if you kill the Netwatch agent (which i do because Netwatch is just another controller for the Corps and themselves and then the VDBs fry all the Netwatch agents around the world) and then demand Johnnys removal in exchange for letting VDBs scan your chip from Brigite after you freed her (and were targeted for termination by Placide) she promises to help you get rid of Johnny, but later at the Wall she admits she never had any intention of helping you, so...she lied for her own agenda, and because of all that (expecting you to go beyond the black wall where nobody comes back from) when getting out of the ice bath, I kill all of the VooDoo Boyz and the hierarchy of that syndicate are gone.
@fg09403
@fg09403 2 года назад
wait a minute.... we know that AI Alt "eats" constructs to assimilate their knowledge right? If we look at the way the guy describes AI as a genie/monkey's paw and take that as fact, and we know Brigitte asked for safety, what better way to ensure their safety then to make them a part of her?
@maninacan9780
@maninacan9780 Год назад
That's true, but another part of the deal was for the voodoo boys to help the AI in the coming wars. They wouldn't be much help if they were assimilated into Alt.
@umarthdc
@umarthdc Год назад
My thoughts exactly, that would cover both petitions: safety on the other side of the Blackwall and fight alongside free AIs
@TheLoki7281
@TheLoki7281 Год назад
"they are currently not needet" seems to me to be exactly that. they were assimilated and only exist as data inside of ai alt.
@ozmul5810
@ozmul5810 Год назад
I saw it as, "Ill keep you safe...... From ME!" sort of understanding wile Alt neglected to keep them safe from the other AI.
@ObsidianCrane
@ObsidianCrane 2 года назад
If you let the VDB's be, Placide sends you a message "Watch out for your back" and then the next message is an error "user not found", which suggests something bad happens that Placide sees as a betrayal.
@eliascardenas9104
@eliascardenas9104 2 года назад
Funny i got this msg when i killed all the voodooboys, but knocked out Placide w/ my gorilla arms & let him live. Anyone else try the same ?
@simondemoulin5815
@simondemoulin5815 2 года назад
@@eliascardenas9104 Yup, I did the same think with Placide and receive a message.
@lavrentivs9891
@lavrentivs9891 2 года назад
In my experience the "user not found" usually means that they have blocked you, like the politician's wife does if you tell him the truth.
@ObsidianCrane
@ObsidianCrane 2 года назад
@@lavrentivs9891 it also means they are dead - as is the case with Evie.
@SuicideJade
@SuicideJade 2 года назад
I just did a play through where I let them live and I still got that message from Placide.
@vincerivera9325
@vincerivera9325 Год назад
I think even if Evelyn complied only giving them the Virtu they were still gonna fry her brain such is the fate of a ranyon same in what Placide did to V it seems this is their modus operandi in dealing with outsiders
@donimmortal7692
@donimmortal7692 Год назад
Yup. Can't trust outsider, must tie up all loose end.
@rampage_sl
@rampage_sl Год назад
Exactly.
@KavilusS
@KavilusS 6 месяцев назад
​@@donimmortal7692that is why they ended up dead.
@souliris
@souliris 2 года назад
"This whole situation is bent over, cheeks spread wide" is about how i feel about a lot of choices in the game. CDP really loves those "gray" choices. This feels like the Bloody Baron all over again.
@OSPREY-OF-THE-WEST
@OSPREY-OF-THE-WEST 2 года назад
Hey Samuri that's my line
@Ecliptor.
@Ecliptor. 2 года назад
Yeah. I feel like all games have these "gray" plots, like trying to be relatable to the real world or something. When, in reality, a LOT of things are either black or white. Not everything, but a lot are.
@Wildcard-Jack-47
@Wildcard-Jack-47 2 года назад
@@xenonsan3110 she also took the child they had and verbally abused him long before he started hitting her or did you just forget that part Neither of them were good people it’s both their faults it’s not gaslighting
@taliawtf6944
@taliawtf6944 2 года назад
Well it's not a happy story that's for sure and all through out the game you can see the theme of finality and unavoidable ends. Much like how V is dealing with the fact they can't be saved in the end if you choose to go back to your body. Everything has an end or a death that can't be stopped or avoided, you can only accept it. I rather liked that sort of story as in most RPGs you can get the happy sunny farting rainbow ending being a paragon of justice. V is much more human in that they just want to live, they can't save the world or half the people they care about and they have to accept it in the end or give up and go be with Alt.
@Ecliptor.
@Ecliptor. 2 года назад
@@taliawtf6944 They can save Johnny, tho.
@voinjdv3460
@voinjdv3460 2 года назад
In my playthrough I showed those VD bois who is the real netrunner here and forced Brigitte to commit suicide and burned others brain to a crisp with the short circuit. Poor Placid was first on fire with Overheat and then his synapses were on fire, second after he got controll bullet in head from Comrade's Hammer.... Btw something like that happened to Woodman in clouds. Just don't like massage somebody's ego
@csam9167
@csam9167 Год назад
V as a net runner is fucking terryfing ...
@TrueInvisible
@TrueInvisible Год назад
cyberpunk 2077 character build rule number 1. you never mess with netrunners if you wish to live. you can put a fight a a sandevistan street brawler, you can duel a gunslinger, you can dance with a samurai / ninja. a netrunner is where you never cross the line. they can use a sniper rifle's scope and kill you from an entire street away without laying a finger.. the only people who can mess with netrunners are other netrunners. when your game's mage is walking around with atomic explosion spell, meteor strike, die for me! =shin megami tensei reference=, and can reach you from the west while you stroll in the south, you keep yourself on good sides with them!
@The_Soviet_Cat_2233
@The_Soviet_Cat_2233 Год назад
Not really related, but on my last playthrough I didn't kill woodman during automatic love, but did in Judy's mission later, thing is, he survived and was left unconscious, my game seemed bugged because I couldn't pull out a weapon to kill him while he was unconscious, and while trying to draw one, I accidentally threw a grenade at his body. Poor bastard, all that was left was a mutilated bloody torso beyond all recognition, I tarted laughing at how overkill it seemed to kill him that way.
@blm50881
@blm50881 2 года назад
I wipe them out myself in every playthrough. I hate betrayers. V for vengeance.
@tobiasL1991
@tobiasL1991 2 года назад
Hell yeah, I was so happy to see they aren't some bullshit immortal or something bullshit like that.
@slim420MM
@slim420MM 2 года назад
@Artur RPGamer Evelyn doubled crossed them and her fixer she got what she deserved.
@alamcho
@alamcho 2 года назад
Also, after GIM i always punch Placide in the face, is so satisfying everytime, lol
@Agamemnon-w9x
@Agamemnon-w9x 2 года назад
Screw the Voodoobois. They f'ed over Evelyn, and they were gonna F you over. We are nothing but ranyon to them, so i had no sympathy selling them out. Besides, I wanted to jack Placide for his coat 😆
@Ecliptor.
@Ecliptor. 2 года назад
They're scum but they didn't betray anyone, it was the other way around. Evelyn betrayed them because she was a greedy cunt. What happened to her did suck tho, I'm not downplaying it, but she did it to herself. Same way she was ready to go behind Dex' back, though, that wouldn't be as bad, considering Dex is a rat.
@joog0
@joog0 2 года назад
Wow three playthroughs and I had no idea there was a quest associated with the rollercoaster. I'd always just repair it on my own Great video! Excited for what you have coming up next.
@Knobody398
@Knobody398 2 года назад
Yeah same and I played through this game like 10 times
@johnroberts838
@johnroberts838 2 года назад
@@Knobody398 , Same 👍👍👍
@TheMasterblaster32
@TheMasterblaster32 2 года назад
@@Knobody398 love the game 👍
@Yusuke_Denton
@Yusuke_Denton 2 года назад
150 hours and I didn't even know there was a rollercoaster.
@maxmustermann-zx9yq
@maxmustermann-zx9yq 2 года назад
@-- Baptiste -- quest triggers in this game are shit, I did all quests and like 5 gigs never showed, skipping forward doesn't help but after driving around for half an hour one spawned, couldn't be bothered to repeat this for minor gigs though
@Tentacl
@Tentacl 2 года назад
I wholeheartedly think they were underdeveloped due to production issues. In a scenario where netrunning is so inportant, having such a small story in Pacifica and either no longer talk to or kill them all makes no sense.
@hemishrp
@hemishrp Год назад
Pretty sure I heard that everything related to Pacifica was cut short due to, as you said, production issues.
@jace9986
@jace9986 Год назад
Well, we got a continuation of the story for 30 bucks…
@Tentacl
@Tentacl Год назад
@@jace9986 Yup, and frankly I'm kinda excited, specially because it's coming alongside the 2.0 patch with remade perk system.
@hemishrp
@hemishrp Год назад
@@TentaclIs it really worth it though? For 30 bucks? The game is already expensive.
@Tentacl
@Tentacl Год назад
@@hemishrp of course it's a personal decision, but I think so. They said it's gonna be twice the size of blood and wine (dlc for witcher 3), and up until now their DLCs were true expansions with good value proposition. While I can complain a lot about CPRed because of the CP2077 launch, they still never acted in bad faith with monetization, so I'm willing to risk.
@RatAvenue
@RatAvenue 2 года назад
Out of all the factions in cyberpunk I feel like the VDBs have the least content associated with them. All of Pacifica just seems so… unfinished.
@mistercleff8819
@mistercleff8819 Год назад
Cause that’s where the DLC is taking place
@S3Cs4uN8
@S3Cs4uN8 Год назад
Honestly the whole vibe of Pacifica feeling unfinished almost feels on-point for the lore of the area.
@Damar158
@Damar158 Год назад
@@S3Cs4uN8 The mayor declared Pacifica not to be officially part of the city so they don't have to deal with it, so it playing a minor part in the story is appropiate.
@S3Cs4uN8
@S3Cs4uN8 Год назад
@@Damar158 God I love that little tidbit in Rivers questline, Mayor Rhyne's easy trick to lowering crime rates: just say certain districts don't count!
@elimpoluto9952
@elimpoluto9952 2 года назад
Four playthroughs and I've either betrayed the voodoo boys or wiped them out myself, so I've never had to wonder about what happened to them.
@TheRyderShotgunn
@TheRyderShotgunn 2 года назад
Loyalty with loyalty Betrayal with betrayal No Voodoo Boy left standing
@temperspace
@temperspace 2 года назад
The voodoo boys and jefferson quest were the most eerie and interesting, i wish the was more of both
@pest1l3nce
@pest1l3nce 2 года назад
Voodoo boys seemed weak as hell compared to how they are portrayed by other npcs. Just another easily hacked mob.
@chromacypher8409
@chromacypher8409 2 года назад
I took them out in brutal fashion, including Placide. Got a message later to watch my back from Placide... wierd.
@tehhotline4225
@tehhotline4225 2 года назад
He might have just been injured
@Hylanvahr
@Hylanvahr 2 года назад
If you took his head, then that's an interesting bug, or maybe it's an automated message intended to be sent to his killer in the event of his death in order to invoke fear and paranoia as a form of revenge beyond the grave.
@chromacypher8409
@chromacypher8409 2 года назад
@@Hylanvahr I tend to double tap bodies, even if they are down. I sided with the VDB, until after the meeting with the AI. I shot everyone on the way out, double tap, loot, leave. About a game day later he texted me to watch my back. 🤷‍♂️
@Hylanvahr
@Hylanvahr 2 года назад
@@chromacypher8409 That's pretty bizarre. I played that part a couple of days ago with my katana build and chopped Placide to bloody pieces, no text. Might be a bug you found.
@H3LLIS_515
@H3LLIS_515 2 года назад
Me too
@KentonIGuess
@KentonIGuess 2 года назад
Them fools picked the wrong ranyon to betray
@venveng
@venveng 2 года назад
Them calling V common trash is enough reason to betray them all the time.
@jon-umber
@jon-umber 2 года назад
There's no exquisite pleasure throughout the playthrough like there is murdering every single one of the VDBs after they use you and discard you
@SayMy_User_Name
@SayMy_User_Name 2 года назад
I’m on my 4th play through and I’m still coming across things I’ve never seen before, lurks subtle things that u could easily miss the first 1,2,3 times u play lol still getting a ton of enjoyment out of this game and I hope the new patch brings even more content to discover and play through .. such a great game, that
@kami_vega
@kami_vega 2 года назад
so true
@The_Soviet_Cat_2233
@The_Soviet_Cat_2233 Год назад
Same here, on my 4th playthrough, and I still feel like I'm gonna get spoilers
@Psychol-Snooper
@Psychol-Snooper 2 года назад
I just realized NetWatch probably wanted the prototype Relic shard from Evelyn to use Johnny's engram just like the Voodoo Boys except to trap Alt, not ally with her.
@TheSeventhEnd
@TheSeventhEnd Год назад
If they were trying to trap alt, it would only be to stop her from tearing down the blackwall. Gotta remember, the blackwall _is_ an AI. They don't need Alt, they have one bigger than her.
@LinusWilson
@LinusWilson 2 года назад
Man, did they upload their brains or something? That is deep stuff.
@SaucyAlfredo
@SaucyAlfredo 2 года назад
Alt gobbled up all the psyches in Mikoshi so it isn't that unlikely she used some kind of soulkiller-like program on the Voodoo boys to bring them onto the net and integrate them into her AI. That is ensuring their safety
@DanStaal
@DanStaal 2 года назад
Agreed - the 'get exactly what you asked for' solution that gets mentioned.
@idonotcarekek
@idonotcarekek 2 года назад
So if merging with an AI is garaunteed survival, would it feel like a bigger prison or will I still have/lose consciousness?
@SaucyAlfredo
@SaucyAlfredo 2 года назад
@@idonotcarekek Don't really know. I think from what alt says that they become a part of her. It isn't actually the person Alt but an AI that uses her as a base and then integrates whatever else it can find to become more powerful. The voodoo boys say there's going to be an AI was on humans and they want to be on the winning side.
@idonotcarekek
@idonotcarekek 2 года назад
@@SaucyAlfredo damn.. I wish I spent more time past the blackwall. It looked so cool on the other side, a whole new word of mysteries..
@SaucyAlfredo
@SaucyAlfredo 2 года назад
@@idonotcarekek I hope it's one of the expansions. They opened up so many plot points and didn't close many. AI, Peralez and Mr.Blue Eyes, Militech war with Arasaka
@josephgrasso2441
@josephgrasso2441 2 года назад
Alt needed Johnny's engram code because its subsystem was written with Relic V2 code, which would be incredibly useful to Alt. Why? With that code Alt could wirelessly take control of a person's body and exist outside cyberspace. Imagine it, so long as the network exists and bodies are connected to it she could ghost into their brains via the net, severe the connection, take control then relocate the body to another sub net access point completely unidentified. Netwatch with all of its power couldnt see Johnny buried inside V's sub systems without a direct link scan like how Viktor could in his shop. So no matter the ending Alt is the true winner of the game. why else would Alt ask the Voodoo bois to organize a heist of the Relic V2 chip? It was always about the chip. Johnny just so happened to be on the chip and V unluckily died with the chip in their head. Now i know thats a no brainer but why would she want the chip? With archival data of all the engrams and Daemons in her system she could amass an army in "IRL" to fight against Saka, Kang, Militech, Governments, and NetWatch. A war on mulidimensional fronts. My theory for this being the plot of future DLCs and god willing a sequel, is supported by the quest involving the mayor where he and his wife are brainwashed by maelstrom orchestrated by what Johnny suspects as a Rogue AI. Just so much lore and i love every second of it.
@DBfan106
@DBfan106 2 года назад
Alt didn't ask them to though. they wanted to because 'when the next ai war comes we want to be on the winning side' bunch of fucks thinking AIs would win a war hands down so they want to jump ship before it even starts. Alt doesn't care, like at all. and all the technology to take over someone is on the Relic itself, it's hardware not software, so unless Alt wanted to make a number of relic copies of herself I doubt that's the case. honestly she really didn't seem to care at ALL about the VDBs, she only cared about Mikoshi.
@josephgrasso2441
@josephgrasso2441 2 года назад
@@DBfan106 well if you think about it ALT wanted to free mikoshi for 2 possible reasons the first so she can liberate more of her kind as she admits to retaining some of her animal like insticts. the second reason being if you think about the sort of people that would be locked away in mikoshi, theyd be very power people who had posed threats to arasaka. And Alt didnt HAVE to ask them they were just in the perfect position to act as her foils to suit her aims. The Hardware is indeed what does the work of the relic but all knowledge of how that hardware works died with Hoffman, so the only way for her to know how it worked 100% were to physically touch it while connected to a vessel holding it.
@DBfan106
@DBfan106 2 года назад
@@josephgrasso2441 Except Hoffman's not dead, and we get the blueprints for the relic from him. she wants the people from Mikoshi, Ok. So? what does that have to do with the VDB's? nothing, she doesn't care about them, because they can't/wont do anything to actually help her. They wouldn't go through the trouble of breaking into Mikoshi or finding Hellman. they just wanted to say to Alt 'We're on your side! not theirs! we're good right?' whereas Alt doesn't care, the only reason Alt helps V is because V can and WILL actually break into Mikoshi.
@zrusit9640
@zrusit9640 2 года назад
If that's the case, that she needs Silverhand's engram, why is there a joice to let Johnny go back to reality in V's body and V going with Alt? Wouldn't Alt just straight up forced Johnny to merge with her?
@_yikesforever
@_yikesforever 2 года назад
Loving these really subtle changes/things that I never discovered in 500 hours. Thanks for the vids!
@PvtSalt
@PvtSalt 2 года назад
I’ve played this game…an embarrassing amount of times & I’ve never seen this. I love that there is still so much I’m finding in the world of NC. Thanks for this!
@godofchaoskhorne5043
@godofchaoskhorne5043 2 года назад
Fml. Missed this cool side mission because I was too eagerly simping for judy knowing I could never romance her. Did all her missions as soon as chapter 2 started. Did a few side missions but mostly ncpd and gigs in between. Can't believe I missed out on a roller coaster with my favorite rockerboy
@jewelsvevo8153
@jewelsvevo8153 2 года назад
Haha simp
@anormalhuman6456
@anormalhuman6456 2 года назад
You can do it afterwards too only the vodo boys won't be there
@chair6703
@chair6703 2 года назад
you can still do it
@JayIceColdD
@JayIceColdD 2 года назад
Placide earned himself a grade A ass-whoopin'.
@olzhas1one755
@olzhas1one755 2 года назад
Could you do a video on the next AI war? "When the time comes" as Alt refers to it? It seems pretty interesting, I wonder if there's any extra info I missed about it
@Apethantos
@Apethantos Год назад
I have 600 hours over 3 playthroughs, and I've never returned there to see this dialogue, thank you.
@KristalBlut
@KristalBlut 2 года назад
In the end, Netwatch are the good guys. Having "Free Ai" run wild will be a nightmare. And the VB caused power outages and make holes into the firewall. Also they are behind the death of Evelyn, so they allways have to die
@Hylanvahr
@Hylanvahr 2 года назад
Netwatch are definitely not the good guys, but that agent you meet likes to make you think he is (he uses smooth talking and the cowboy film in the theater to ease and manipulate your mind... that is how the corpos control the world). Everyone in Cyberpunk is dirty as hell. There's no good guys, not even V.
@tuguldursooyo4685
@tuguldursooyo4685 2 года назад
@@Hylanvahr Yeah everyone has moral compromise, but i guess Netwatch is still better than VB, cuz they at least try keep the net somewhat safe and in order in general instead of total chaos and unknown AIs taking over. There is a saying right? The Devil you know is better than the Devil that you don't know,
@neruba2173
@neruba2173 2 года назад
@@Hylanvahr Judy is good... is so good I still cant wrap my head around how can she still be alive in a world like CP.
@Hylanvahr
@Hylanvahr 2 года назад
@@neruba2173 That's because Judy knows her way around a smart pistol and is a member of the baddest girls in NC, the Moxes.
@davws88
@davws88 2 года назад
Netwatch is the lesser evil.
@ragingtyga
@ragingtyga 2 года назад
I hope the DLC will open more into lore happening with the AI, because there's huge potential there. Johnny touches upon it during the Perales side job conspiracy, but apparently there was a war that involved AIs. The entire reason there is a corpo controlled, Net, and also Netwatch, is not to keep people like the VoodooBoys out from beyond the blackwall, it's to keep those rogue AIs out. We also know that Delamain, the AI taxi service, came from the blackwall. He was just a taxi service, and we got a glimpse of the potential havoc he could cause if he went Rogue. Johnny suspects that AIs were the ones manipulating the minds of the Perales family, then finally there's the Voodoo Boys, who were seeking to escape to the blackwall, in the hope of aligning with the AIs on the other side, believing that a war was coming. Then there's Alt, who presumably is leading them now that she herself is an AI. The one big thing she, and most of them were probably afraid of, is Mikoshi, basically a prison for AIs. If Mikoshi was complete destroyed, and the Corpo net is brought down...man things would get ugly and I'd love to see the game explore that
@Altmer353
@Altmer353 Год назад
For me it is a clearly setup for the future games. Big overarching story, like with Dragon Age. The moment she said that the NET is nearly as unstable as it was prior Blackwall creation i got goosebumps all over my body. I know CYberpunk 2020 and RED lore. If what she says is true there will be complete disaster in the future, some borderline apocalyptic shit for humanity.
@ragingtyga
@ragingtyga Год назад
@@Altmer353 Well now that the DLC is announced, and after the anime, the whole internet suddenly thing CP2077 is a good game (like us players already did), we'll get to see the world more fleshed out.
@donimmortal7692
@donimmortal7692 Год назад
Oh my....so many things wrong with this. So many misconception. - Alt isn't leader of AIs behind the Blackwall. - Mikoshi isn't a prison for AIs, just the victim from Soulkiller. It practically meant nothing to other AIs. - The post-war rogue AI that the Blackwall specifically designed to prevent are far more powerful than Alt (at least before she absorbed Mikoshi). In other words, rogue AI is a tricky plot point to have because it is basically the endgame of this universe.
@ragingtyga
@ragingtyga Год назад
@@donimmortal7692 Rebuttal. - I said PRESUMABLY, Which means I'm guessing. This is based on the statements made by her about what's she's up to beyond the blackwall. - The AI WERE concerned with Mikoshi. It IS a prison, it's literally called that by Alt, Johnny, and others. Mikoshi is not Soulkiller. Soul Killer is what is used to EXTRACT YOUR SOUL (which kills you), and places you INTO Mikoshi. This is literally explained by Johnny's memories and Alt. Alt was initially kidnapped and they used Soul Killer to download her INTO Mikoshi. She then somehow contacts Johnny, prompting his suicide mission to blow up Arasaka Tower. That attack, Freed her and allowed her to flee and hide behind the blackwall, where she is actively plotting for a way to bring down Netwatch, who governs the blackwall, who sole purpose is to keep the AIs OUT. This is why I'm calling her a leader in terms of the fight between Netwatch and the AI. I challenge that the AIs don't care about Mikoshi, because it's proven to be able to Contain an AI, evidence? Alt.
@donimmortal7692
@donimmortal7692 Год назад
@@ragingtyga Outside source aside, Clearly you don't even remember what was said in game. "He then somehow contacts Johnny, prompting his suicide mission to blow up Arasaka Tower." She specifically told him NOT to come for her. If you somehow think this is some kind of reverse psychology then asked yourself if Alt need that kind of thing to get Johnny onboard on bombing Arasaka? "Mikoshi is not Soulkiller" I never said it is. Read again. It was a prison for VICTIMs of Soulkiller, which is it's own brand of Ai. Alt cannot hack it because it has layers of Black ICE specifically made for her, literally said in game. This is no issue for other AIs. Much like how Alt is able to travel across the Blackwall because it wasn't designed to contains her specifically. Also there are no indication that Alt want to takedown NetWatch. So far she only response to them in self-defense. Their relationship is more like that of criminal and police rather than Johnny and Arasaka.
@NiskaMagnusson
@NiskaMagnusson 2 года назад
it's a shame that the VDB's are basically just interactable for one quest or so, with some tiny fragments of side content, it really seemed in the trailers that gangs in general would be more interesting, meanwhile in the VDB base one song just blasts on loop
@ramon4184
@ramon4184 Год назад
This whole interaction between netwatch VDBs and the alt gave me the impression that there's a AI apocalypse coming
@Pendragon667
@Pendragon667 2 года назад
Was just strolling around the other day and did the rollercoaster mission by pure chance In my headcanon those teens would repair the ferris wheel as well and make this neighborhood a better place. Making it a good nice spot in a wretched city.
@abuyousef6224
@abuyousef6224 2 года назад
Is it possible you have enough footage to piece together the 6th Street and Valentinos "Romeo+Juliet" story and what the aftermath is? I seem to recall the leaders of these warring houses, if you will, end up dead or dethroned after what happens to their children but it's been a while since I did a 100% run myself.
@kaidrache2395
@kaidrache2395 2 года назад
For a bunch of net afficionados the Voodoo Boys died pretty fast to my quickhacks. These arrogant bastards die each and every playthrough no changes in the future intended.
@muhammadammarrasyid5780
@muhammadammarrasyid5780 10 месяцев назад
Now that the expansion is out, there really is no reason not to screw over the Voodoo Boys, they aren't even scratching the surface when it comes to manipulating or being in good terms with AIs beyond the Blackwall.
@dominikcygan2664
@dominikcygan2664 2 года назад
since i played through the story and waited to finish all the side quests after i never knew there was a quest that i missed out on
@david7522
@david7522 Год назад
What happened to the Voodoo boys? The indirectly hurt Judy. So I had to spend the afternoon picking their pulverised remains out of my gorilla fists.
@cutwir3317
@cutwir3317 2 года назад
I wish voodoo boy’s return. I was hoping they would seek revenge after I killed them or Brigitte returns offering me a job to destroy Netwatch. DLC could really add more I hope.
@Ecliptor.
@Ecliptor. 2 года назад
Maybe they are involved. I doubt it tho, but who knows. Considering the dlc story will most likely be parallel to the plot (since, you know, V just dies)
@QaDri93
@QaDri93 Год назад
I didn’t trust the mofo Placide when he called my Rayfield Guinevere a “scrap metal”
@weshouldchill5694
@weshouldchill5694 2 года назад
"What happened to the VD Boys?" Uh the Headsman go boom lmfao that what happened to them
@venyredun5221
@venyredun5221 2 года назад
So the rollercoaster quest can only be triggered before judy sends you to pacifica and this NPC will be there only if you have done the rollercoaster quest? since i dont remember him sitting there when i would repair the rollercoaster on my own without the quest... Shit, i guess i have to find an excuse to go to pacifica before the main quest sends me -,- thats gonna be hard to pull off in my immerssion focused mind... Shame this quest cant be triggered after you get rid of the animals in GIM.
@kevinescobar370
@kevinescobar370 Год назад
Ya know I was gonna walk away and just continue the story until that lady said that stupid “you’re in my world now” threat and I just can’t help but unload on her everytime I play through that part
@KHaskins23
@KHaskins23 2 года назад
You know, if Pacifica didn't look like a warzone, it would be the most beautiful part of Night City in the game.
@nevilo1
@nevilo1 Год назад
Brigitte: Alt can protect you in her realm. But here and now, you are in mine. ME V: *HAHAHAHAHAhahahaha* ....... *nope* . YOU are in MINE now! *_Draw Shotgun with malicious intent_*
@JP12345
@JP12345 2 года назад
What happened to the voodoo boys? V, V happened
@ThePlatineist
@ThePlatineist 2 года назад
I don't trust Alt looool. She was just as manipulative as Johnny in his younger days. Johnny eventually grew out of it through the positive influence of V but Alt became worse.
@MFenix206
@MFenix206 2 года назад
i would only trust her on the ending where you give Johnny control and he apologizes to her. that is the only encounter where she shows a shred of her old humanity.
@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind
@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind 2 года назад
Everytime I see a bunch of VDB on the street I know I'm going to drop some bodies.
@cristiticu
@cristiticu 2 года назад
Killed thousands of them farming that damn grenade mod.... RATATATATATATATA!!!
@imcryzis
@imcryzis 4 месяца назад
V : what happened to the VDB ? Jean : where did you get that cool coat from ? V : nevermind !
@QrowTheGoat
@QrowTheGoat Год назад
killed em on my first play through and let ‘em slide on my second. Idk seemed like it’d be a waste of bullets and time to slaughter em. Even after what happened to Ev. I walked out the better man.
@kassi420
@kassi420 Год назад
I mean Evelyn did it to herself, she thought she could betray everyone and get away with it… this is the point of Cyberpunk. Everyone has their own schemes and most of the time it gets them killed. Best example, Johnny Silverhand… you can blame Adam Smasher but the reality was Johnny’s fate was his own doing, HE was the one who killed Alt’s human form by disconnecting her from the mainframe before she could return to her body because he’s a clueless idiot. This led him to team up with Morgan Blackhand and Militech to bomb Arasaka for revenge for what happened to Alt (even though it was his own fault that lead to Alt’s “death”) also instead of following the plan he decided to do his own thing and we all know what happened… he also responsible for killing 750,000 people with that premature nuke explosion… good job Johnny…
@johnroberts838
@johnroberts838 2 года назад
Hi OD, Excellent video, ty. Take care mate.
@Martini---
@Martini--- 2 года назад
Don't get me wrong, VDBs are pricks, but i hate CORPOS more than them, so my choice was to let them be, i figured it's better to let your enemies fight eachother, killing two birds with one stone.
@svenschwingel8632
@svenschwingel8632 2 года назад
You can fuck both Arasaka and the Voodoo Boys so it's a win-win
@Hylanvahr
@Hylanvahr 2 года назад
I choose to let the VDBs fry Netwatch and then I start blasting VDBs skulls and have a smoke with Johnny afterwards. Everyone outside in Pacifica are oblivious to what happened. V takes out the trash quietly and no one's the wiser. Less innocent people get hurt, the corpos lose some very valuable netrunners, and the hierarchy of one of the most dangerous gangs in the city gets wrecked. I call that a win.
@Dumascain
@Dumascain 2 года назад
After finding out what they did to Evelyn and what they tried to do to me, I do NOT care one whit what happened to them.
@DBfan106
@DBfan106 2 года назад
I care. because it means I missed a few.
@filipstudeny
@filipstudeny Год назад
"What happened with the voodoobois?" - Little bit of trolling happened
@ScrubbyBubbles
@ScrubbyBubbles Год назад
I eliminated them all for trying to betray me, that's what happened.
@kaisteinbeiss
@kaisteinbeiss 2 года назад
I wonder if the way you interact with the voodoo boys has any impact on the story with the Peralez since Johnny mentioned that he thinks it's a free AI that brainwashes them
@H3LLIS_515
@H3LLIS_515 2 года назад
I let netwatch attack voodoboys then i killed placide and i've got a message from him later in the game saying watch out for your back, or something similar. After that it showed contact deleted
@badfoody
@badfoody 2 года назад
I got pissed off at these guys. But know they protected an entire community of refugees made me sympathetic to them
@maxmustermann-zx9yq
@maxmustermann-zx9yq 2 года назад
They fried Evelyn though, after seeing her arc to its conclusion before meeting them I betrayed them at first chance
@Nomilh
@Nomilh 2 года назад
Fuck sympathy towards the Voodoo boys. How many mercs that came to do gigs there got betrayed by them ? How many other people like Evelyn died after doing business with them ? Their whole way of thinking is "if they're not like us then we use them and dispose of them".
@DBfan106
@DBfan106 2 года назад
I agree that I did feel some sympathy, but then I found out that they call anyone who works with them who isn't born a VDB 'ranyon' dish rag. something to be used and thrown away. all sympathy goes out the window when you treat people like that.
@mandu6665
@mandu6665 2 года назад
@@maxmustermann-zx9yq Evelyn was playing waaaaay out of her league. She was a fool.
@mandu6665
@mandu6665 2 года назад
@@DBfan106 They're a group of immigrants cut off from NC. They gotta do what they gotta do to survive.
@HorusHeresy1982
@HorusHeresy1982 3 месяца назад
She probably absorbed them like she does Mikoshi. They'll be safe that way. Alt at that point is just a sentient version of Soul Killer.
@michaelmorrigan614
@michaelmorrigan614 Год назад
I think Jack Nicholson’s Joker put it in simpler terms…they “got a little hot under the collar” lol seriously though, the thought of Alt frying them directly after they try to betray V, and Johnny’s subsequent approval of them being oft, has pretty much meant that’s the only path I have ever chosen. It’s so much more…Night City…than the alternative
@crusnik_0014
@crusnik_0014 2 года назад
I let that corpro dude track them down, but before escaping I non-leathaly took the main dude out. Several days later I get a text from him saying 'to watch my back'. Before 1.5 update nothing has happened. Even after 1.5 update nothing has happened.
@wesley_rueda
@wesley_rueda 2 года назад
Thanx for this video mate, i never have seen that dialogue before and its amazing the answers both if you side or not with voodoo boys, what happen if you wipe out voodoo boys and talk with the rollercoaster guy after killing his cousin ?
@OneDragon
@OneDragon 2 года назад
Jean's response is the same if you wipe the VDB out or spare them.
@Dogtles
@Dogtles Год назад
Damn I never knew about the quest to repair the roller coaster. I know you can do it yourself, but I wish they'd add it back in once the animals are dealt with
@lobbyrobby
@lobbyrobby 2 года назад
I'm pausing this video to go ride a roller-coaster! Edit: I'm back. That was fun.
@seymssogood
@seymssogood 11 месяцев назад
I side with the VDBs everytime as there's no way my V would ally with a corpo guy from Netwatch, if V is already so anti-corpo. I don't even wait for the conversation with Bryce to be complete. He gets put down every time. I can deal with the VDBs double crossing as it's all part of life in NC. They have their own set of anti-corpo priorities and I can respect that. I just leave them be, no problem. While I can see Evelyn's desire to escape her life as a doll, I have no love for Evelyn at all. She lack the self awareness to realise that was out of her depth, betrayed most of the people she was working with, and tried to turn V against the fixer. She had one simple job; to record the virtu. If she'd kept her mouth shut about her knowledge of the Relic, and done that one job, she would still be alive. The VDBs would have no reason to spike her as, to them, she wouldn't have known what they were after.
@Gountah
@Gountah 9 месяцев назад
VDB would have kill her anyway as they kill every ranyon that work for them, and correct me if i’m wrong but i didn’t find anything that suggest VDB knew Evelyn’s plan to cut them off the deal
@tuetensuppe6399
@tuetensuppe6399 2 года назад
this is just my theory but i think the guy was right when he said AI´s give you what you wish for. I think the voodoo boys became part of Alt in the same way as the souls in mikoshi. they are save behind the wall and will help the AI´s, just not how they thought it would turn out
@DoubleK0802
@DoubleK0802 Год назад
Well if you want to know what happened to them just ask Placide. I heard he just went unconscious one moment and then just woke up to see all his friends' corpses at his feet. Very strange. Darn tragedy.
@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind
@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind 2 года назад
What happend to them? ANGRY V HAPPENED TO THEM. They killed Evelyn so V grilled the VDB.
@ThePartisan13
@ThePartisan13 2 года назад
I'm just starting my third playthrough and I was going to do this side quest to get this dialogue for later, and then I realized that I could really give a flying motherfuck about the voodooboys considering I'm going to wipe them out either way.
@zrusit9640
@zrusit9640 2 года назад
In my third playthrought, I just emerged from the tub naked, poped tactical camo, pulled out mantis blades and just left them in pieces, lol
@jonnekallu1627
@jonnekallu1627 Год назад
"what happened to the voodoo boys" Well in my first play trough I meant to come back and kill them all but forgot. In my second play trough I killed them all.
@weeble4749
@weeble4749 Год назад
You didn't need a 9 minute video. I can just tell you right here. Comrades hammer. 60+ copies of Ozob's nose. Legendary Sandivistan and a legendary monowire.
@joelando9485
@joelando9485 2 года назад
That pacifica song in loop omg. Ratatata alesia ratatata. I hear ot in my nightmares while running from the las mission boxer.
@mat.phoenix
@mat.phoenix 2 года назад
😂😂😂 Too true... That looping reggae is a nightmare
@thewiseass895
@thewiseass895 Год назад
I saw what they did to Evelyn at Clouds, definitely siding with Netwatch in every playthrough
@jacobhederstrom8198
@jacobhederstrom8198 Год назад
i have always sided with netwatch for the simple reason that they are the cause of my current predicament and the death of jackie and the suffering, state and eventual death of evelyn, and i realised that them getting fried by alt is the most painful way for them to die. i say that since i belive they die the same way as tbug, described by her friend as getting stabbed by a hundred thousand knives. a suffering well deserved in the mind of my charachter.
@lyustra732
@lyustra732 Год назад
Im on my first playthrough got tired of them trying to play me for a fool even when i tried to stay loyal to them soon as my player woke up out the deep-net, a whole bunch of unpinned grenades came out of nowhere and all the voodoo boys just disappeared 🤷‍♂️
@dxdxdxdxdxd7125
@dxdxdxdxdxd7125 Год назад
oh i know exactly what happened to the VDB *reloading my Dying Night pistol*
@IGI_Media
@IGI_Media 2 года назад
Fun Fact - If you visit the G.I.M. after this portion of the story line is complete, a new clan has infiltrated the GIM
@JariahxSynn
@JariahxSynn Год назад
Huh, I never got the roller coaster quest first time around. Lucky I haven't done voodoo boys quest yet on my current run.
@qtar1984
@qtar1984 Год назад
Alt may have allowed them to continue existing as personality subroutines within herself. They still exist as conscious beings. But are no longer independent ones. The same probably happens to the engrams she takes from Mikoshi.
@ozmul5810
@ozmul5810 Год назад
So in either case they get the short end of the stick. Either the Ai (something that doesn't think nor operate on the same level they do) Consume them, or they got lost in the black wall. Assuming that Alt kept her end of the bargain, I do not see the AI keeping true to it. The way the Blackwall is described thorough the game, going there is like traveling theru the Warp without a Gellar Field. Yeah one of the Chaos gods might tell you they will keep you safe, but the other ones might not comply. In short. Alt was saying I'll keep you safe.... From me! That or Netwatch finally deals with them once and for all. I think it would have been nice to have access to a net Runner Voodoo boys ending. With you ending as some sort of Cyber Saint like figure. Would add a new level to the quest were you meet the mysterious Monk.
@unavailable.mp4
@unavailable.mp4 2 года назад
I had no idea that judys mission closed the rollercoaster side mission
@maklarus
@maklarus Год назад
IF you take out most of the VB without killing them and let netwatch frie them you can sneak up to placide and take him out without killing him later on he will message you watch your back
@BigRell91
@BigRell91 2 года назад
What happened to them u asked wellll go ask alt she will tell you 😏😏
@pudgyfolds2186
@pudgyfolds2186 2 года назад
I clapped all their cheeks. For Evelyn
@OriginalLictre
@OriginalLictre Год назад
In future playthroughs, the only reason I might not side with Netwatch would be so that I could roam Pacifica myself, applying lots of evolutionary pressure to a gang that would happily turn traitor to the rest of the Human race when or if rogue AIs decide to take action. The VDBs want to be on the side of the AIs, because they have no faith in humanity to survive. If I were to go into Pacifica, start walking past one of their beach parties, and they're smart enough to not pull weapons, they live another day. If they pull iron, they can eat lead, quickhacks, and monowire. delivered by the camouflaged spectre of vengeance.
@Neru619
@Neru619 2 года назад
I didn't trust the Voodoo Boys from the very start. All 4 of my playthroughs I've massacred all of them in the last mission. To me they come off as an underground terrorist group.
@kassi420
@kassi420 Год назад
Everyone’s a terrorist in Cyberpunk especially the dude in you mind who killed 750,000 people in Night City when he nuked Arasaka Tower
@OriginalLictre
@OriginalLictre Год назад
More specifically, they're knowingly intending to be traitors to the human species if or when the next conflict with rogue AIs happen.
@BarakIII
@BarakIII 2 года назад
In one of my play throughs I had V wipe them out because of their betrayal. I mean they did kill V afterall and she had no intentions of letting them get away with that. Especially Placide.
@TheKnightDrag0n
@TheKnightDrag0n 11 месяцев назад
They tried to fuck over the wrong choom, that's what happened.
@clarencewalters338
@clarencewalters338 Год назад
If you believe Jean, and his skepticism regarding AI; you may come to a horrifying conclusion, that what Alt means by promising them safe Voyage beyond the Blackwall the same way she does for V and the Mikoshi constructs, integrating them into herself. Exactly what they asked for in a sick and twisted kind of way.
@JacobSeed_2018
@JacobSeed_2018 Год назад
More than likely she takes them to the safe zone she created for victims of SoulKiller, like herself. It’s called “Shangri-La” and it’s in the Hong Kong servers, after the human population was wiped out by a bio plague during one of the corporate wars. Alt worked with other AI’s and Kang Tao to create it in the 2040-2050’s. Alts not an enemy. She’s more neutral than any other character throughout the game. People only assume she has nefarious intentions because she’s an AI now, but you have to remember that deep inside she’s still Alt Cunningham, regardless of what she says. Her (dependent) reactions to Johnny’s apology in the Rogue ending are proof of this.
@clarencewalters338
@clarencewalters338 Год назад
@@JacobSeed_2018 I've never heard of the Ghost Cities referred to as ShangriLa. Also making massive assumptions the AI we meet is Alt pretending not to be Alt for emotional reasons, when it's far more likely V's first assertion about Alt was right and that Alt's engram(or at least the piece we meet in the net) was captured by Netwatch or eaten by other AI behind the wall and the entity we meet is being entirely honest, they aren't Alt and they just use her Engrammatic data.
@JacobSeed_2018
@JacobSeed_2018 Год назад
Certain pieces of lore inside and outside of the game refer to the SoulKiller Ghost Town as Shangri-La. But does it really matter? What matters is that it exists. It’s not an “assumption” when the game basically throws it in your face. Did you even read what I said, or did you just skim through it and say “no” lol The “she’s just an engram” argument is negligible. Both Johnny and V are engrams . V was killed by Dex, the relic “revived” him then starts to overwrite what is left of him. Their original consciousness no longer exists, just the engrams. It’s the same case for Alt, only difference is she’s been running around the Blackwall for 50 years dealing with god knows what. 50 years changes people and things. That’s why Alt is so different from her original human form, she had to accept she was no longer a human or she’d go completely insane. And where’d you even come up with the “Netwatch captured and ate up Alt”? There’s literally nothing in the game or any of the lore to even suggest that as a possibility.
@davidanderson5259
@davidanderson5259 2 года назад
Played through this game twice and apparently there's a great deal going on that I just didn't understand. Oh well...that's what replays are for.
@grumpybollox7949
@grumpybollox7949 2 года назад
great content mate
@MICROKNIGHT3000
@MICROKNIGHT3000 Год назад
What if you scan the vodoo boys to get their names, find the cousin, kill everyone except her?
@ADH_Addy
@ADH_Addy Год назад
There is so much in this game that can be missed. Oh man. So fing cool.
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