What Happened with The Quarry? 

I liked the whole werewolves don’t like water. It was something different. They could have made Silas more visually distinct since he didn’t really look like a white wolf

I thought it was kinda funny that the reasons the werewolves just explode all their skin off was because they couldn't figure out a neat way to have an actual transformation that hasn't been done to death. So instead its a gore explosion. That was neat.

Fun fact: Zach Tinker (Jacob) mentions that at least 20% of the story was cut out due to Covid-19. He also mentions that there were suppose to be more scenes with Jacob and Emma and the writers were afraid that the game will never release. With this information, I believe the story writers had to quickly change the ending with the podcast and remove scenes since the actors had to stop filming due to Covid

It definitely would have been more believable if the Hacketts hadn’t been dealing with the curse for six years, given how things are handled

My biggest complaint with the endings were the lack of the after-game interviews with the characters. I felt like that gave a lot of closure to Until Dawn, and let you see the consequences of your decisions, who is alive, traumatized, etc. The Quarry really needed something like that.

Some things are just a product of their time. Until dawn came out during the telltale era, where all choice based games got the rep of "waking sims where your choices never actually matter". UD subverted those expectations completely, and I also just think it was pretty genius of them to make a choice based game where the core story doesn’t actually change, it’s just the characters who can live or die. It was less effort for them, but the player choices still had consequences which was a rarity at the time. Plus let’s not forget how huge RU-vid gaming was back then, especially in the horror genre, that definitely helped to blow this game up as well. Now that’s not to say that until dawn wouldn’t have been successful if it had been released today, but I do think that back then all the pieces fell into place to make it a phenomenon. When it comes to the quarry, I enjoyed it for what it was. I played it with my friends and we had a good time. But for me personally, the game was a bit too lighthearted. I know that’s probably just what they were going for, but until dawn made a huge impact on me with some of its deeper topics. From the very beginning when the two sisters die, there’s an underlying sense of dread. And Josh’s story in particular was what made the biggest impact on me back then. We witness how traumatized and delusional he became and watch his mental state slowly deteriorate, until he has a breakdown that leads to him either dying or meeting the same fate as his sister. But even after he’s gone, the real threat is still there. Seeing all the surviving characters just utterly distraught and traumatized at the end really made this game memorable. Even if you manage to keep everyone alive, it doesn’t feel like a good ending. What started as a silly and kinda cringy b-horror movie ended like THAT. That’s what I call subversive. Another huge standout for me was the intricate lore about the miners, the sanatorium and the wendigos. That I was really missing in the quarry. Right of the bat I noticed several plotholes and at the end I was left with a ton of unanswered questions which was unfortunate, because again I think the lore in until dawn was nearly perfect, and in this game it’s like they didn’t even really try. The endings were a huge gripe for me as well, I was full on expecting a post credit scene or just some kind of closure for these characters, but it never came. It was very abrupt and just felt super unsatisfying, so overall I don’t think I could’ve gotten nearly as attached to this game as to until dawn, even if I tried. As I said, I like the quarry for what it is, but I truly don’t think that there will EVER be another until dawn. 🌕

My biggest problem with this game is that the story was obvious from the start. Until dawn kept me guessing until very far in the story. But the best part was that choices actually mattered! They really didn't that much in the Until dawn. It was also much more difficult to keep everyone alive in this one. In Until Dawn I got everyone saved the first time. This required few tries.

There is a "theory" that the reason abi didn't even begin to transform, was because she was wearing silver on her clothes which slowed down the transformation and she didn't get a chance to because later kaylee was killed

I actually really enjoyed the game. I find that often we pick entertainment apart too much. It was good, fast fun. I did think that it needed more elaboration on the lore though.

not having max in the game more was the first mistake!!! him and laura were more interesting than everyone else imo

IMO, if it wasn't for Laura and her story I'd dislike this game. She's the saving grace!

There's a lot of 'WHY?!' questions in the game that either aren't answered or are flimsy answers. Like, WHY, if these people are aware of the werewolf situation, aren't the family more careful? They keep Nick in cage at a point, so why can't they cage up the three family werewolves to avoid all death/trouble? Someone told me Kaylee didn't want to be restrained anymore, but, that's telling me she just accepted she'd be loose and could kill innocent people (and this is the same character we are lectured was the 'sweetest kindest person' )

My main issues were: What did they do during the first full moon? it mentions that they were there all summer, and Max turned into a werewolf in the jail cell so that means that everybody was still at camp that night Laura gets her eye injured. Where were all the werewolves that night?? Why don't they just use the perfectly good jail cells either at the station or under the house to hold the infected while there are campers around. There was no reason for Chris to be tied to a beam in their creaky old house. I hated that Kaitlyn absolutely knew that Jacob took the rotor arm from the car- she literally told him what it was, but then she never says anything about it. She just stands there while the car is broken and doesn't say anything. She never confronted him about it even jokingly before anything bad happened in the night. I also thought it was silly that cutting Dylan's arm off had no consequences, he's just fine even though he lost all that blood and had no immediate medical help. Cutting off your entire hand with a rusty old chainsaw in a dirty old cabin can not be good for your immune system.

IMO the biggest problem with this game is that they knew what worked in until dawn and they tried to do those exact things again. The unexpected monster, scary humans surprisingly trying to help the characters etc. That and the characters don´t have nearly enough interaction with eachother as a group. All that said great vid, keep up the great work :)

Dylan carried the game for me, whenever I was getting bored he always brought me back into the story

Until Dawn imo was lightening in a bottle for supermassive. None of their other games in the genre had come close to how good it is. I was expecting this one to be just as good but it wasn’t. It felt so shallow compared to until dawn with some of the same concerns in character development and the endings like you had. I liked the werewolf idea but I think one of the things that made until dawn stand out was the lesser known/used monster wendigo. Werewolves are just generic at this point. Great video and loved your analysis on until dawn and dark pictures.

i do wish for the next game they’ll do something like an actual serial killer instead of a super natural creature being the killer again.

I feel like emma and jacob had so much more potential as characters, especially since their relationship is a more prominent focus in the beginning. I think Jacob being sensitive is interesting for his character trope and could have been flushed out more and given some chance for redemption by allowing him to act more selfless. Emma I also found initially interesting and I thought her character was gonna go in more of a jess direction where she is insecure or something (At least her chase scene with werewolf max was giving major emily vibes, and was super badass). Anyway, really good video!

I think my problem with the Quarry was just that I was... bored. Like the whole time. I can't say why.

at around 26:30 : SAME! I left the cage open on purpose cause I was sure we were going to be chased through there and would be able to trap a werewolf in there, and then nothing happened with that at all It just feels like the gane got released a year before it was finished with tons of stuff cut. Why show the cages in Hackett House as well if you don’t adress why the hell none of the three werewolves that they built them for are locked in there? Why was Chris locked in the cellar and later the attic if you have freaking cages everywhere????

I just hate how so many characters felt sorta…pointless? Like everyone except laura, ryan, and maybe dylan and kaitlin didn’t do much.

29:05 I think in the finale scene Silas was hurt by being hit by the car. So, like Nick in his wolf form escapes after being shot by Abby in the pool house, the werewolves, when hurt, tend to “hide” themselves and be distracted from re-attacking other people. But yeah, I wanted more from this story.

Absolutely agree on wishing there was an option for Laura to cooperate with Travis! I was completely compliant throughout the (imo waaaay too long) flashback, and was rewarded with Laura shooting him even though I didn't take the gun. Then I ended up unintentionally massacring the Hacketts and killing Laura and Ryan in the process, locking myself out of the ENTIRE Silas plotline. I didn’t even know who Caleb was when I shot him! I think Until Dawn did a better job of making sure you got the whole story no matter who made it out alive; like you said, there are enormous holes in The Quarry unless you make specific choice combos and intentionally fail QTEs. Also I'd forgotten about the store! It's such an interesting location to not have come up again. It seems like The Quarry ended up cutting a lot of things, whether for time or to hit a release deadline. 🌓

Until Dawn had characters that I both loved and hated; The Quarry has neither of those. I felt indifferent towards every character in The Quarry and I think that's one of its biggest downfalls. Until Dawn used a lot of stereotypical character personalities and it worked for that game. The Quarry feels like they just tried to take the same personalities and spin them up a little to make new characters. I liked the game, but I don't think it's something I'll ever care to replay.

I remember when I discovered the game, completely going in blind.Travis was so sketchy in the intro, I really thought he was like.. idk a serial killer and while a part of me was like.. Don't listen to the serial killer, I was DEF screaming at my screen: HES CLEARLY KILLING PEOPLE, DO NOT GO TO THE CAMP! Im no hero, I'd have turn back immediately!! (also Max' comment as he's walking in the basement about Evil Dead... yes... you see a person trapped in a basement at night, in the middle of the woods..... FUCK THAT I'm getting the hell outta here!)

I like the characters as concepts, but not in the actual game, and tbh I feel like they never got past the „concept“ stage. In Until Dawn they all are pretty stereotypical as well, but then reveal more depths to that (at least most, arguably that is hard to do for every character with such a big cast and limited time) but this time, I didn’t really care for any of them, cause they never went beyond those three introductory words. There also isn’t really a story happening with them, they’re just slasher fodder- the actual story is Travis and Laura (and Eliza), and they’re the only ones that actually feel like characters. And they’re hardly in the game, even though they ARE the story. I‘m not saying that is 100% true, but it afterwards certainly felt like you could cut out the councellors completely and nothing would change. It doesn’t matter that they stay the night and go out, because Laura would’ve escaped anyway. It’s not stated in any way that the councellors staying caused Chris and his kids to be on the loose. They’re literally just fodder. Even Ryan being there in the end is pointless, why show his relationship with Chris if he can’t reason with him in the end? Why have him kill him if it has no thematic reason? (Maybe it’s just that Ryan was TOO cool and he failed to portray the emotions properly) I liked Ryan at the beginning but as soon as he left with Laura I was like „Why are you even here?“ As if Laura wouldn’t have found a mansion in the woods that is ON THE MAP.That woman patched her own eye up she doesn’t need Ryan guiding her through the woods. I thought the setting is cool and I liked the concept of the story, I just wish they’d flipped the percentages and give us more Laura/Travis and less, but better developed councellors

Ugh this was such a great analysis!! I completely agree with all of your points, esp the one about adding Ryan's sister to the game to develop his character and push home the theme of family!! 🌙

I seem to recall some of the actors stating that COVID interfered with a lot of development for this game.

The reason The Devil in Me has less advanced facial animations than this despite being released after is because this was their prioritized project and The Devil was basically the low budget one of the two, with less assets dedicated to it. Think 10 people working on this and 4 on Devil, with less renders and storing space etc. Also, the solution to this whole scenario would be that Mr Hacket just drove the kids to the hotel in his car, might have needed 2 runs, but you know, still had time.

it upset me on how much they messed up Ryans characterisation, i felt like he was so inconsistent throughout the game and had so much missed potential

I didn't like the camera position when you move the character. I think it's too close. There's only 1 time the camera's position is correct, it's when you play as Abi in the forest.

I haven’t watched the video and I don’t know if it’s about to massively agree with this take but I love the friendship between Ryan and Laura and was one of the few saving graces of this game. Also I liked how with the option to shoot nick, veteran players of until dawn most likely remember the Emily choice and so they don’t shoot, (by veteran choice i mean me, rip abi, thankfully I preordered so I only lost a life and still finished the game with all characters alive). Also i can legitimately see myself being friends with most of the people here as opposed to until dawn where I straight up hated half the characters, Still though Until Dawn > The quarry overall, alright time to watch

I vaguely remember the reason Caleb and Kayleigh were unrestrained that full moon was because the Hacketts were tracking them as werewolves in the hopes the kids would sniff out Silus, or group up with him like a wolf pack. It's an extra layer of tension on why Chris was so stressed about getting the councillors gone, and why the Hacketts wanted to blood them (To stop Caleb and Kayleigh getting distracted hunting them instead of Silas)

I think part of the appeal of until Dawn is the interpersonal drama. Beyond the beginning third of the game they’re not all together and the focus is on hiding. Plus, the guy responsible for the situation is removed from play basically.

I liked this game but the fact you have to go out of your way to mess things up to get the most out of the characters feels really counter productive. It’s also a shame some characters just become near-completely irrelevant after a certain point. Like you said, Emma has her whole thing on the island and then just… does nothing afterwards. She sits in a basement alongside Abby who, also had a tense moment she could die in but because she survived the story just went “???” and decided to lock them away in a basement as their function in the plot had been complete.

A lot of the problems in this game was lack of content, and a lack lustre ending, which is because the game was hit with a brick wall of Covid restrictions, I do really wonder what the game would’ve been like if they paused production and it came out today

Loved this game, I kept everyone alive on the first playthrough and the game felt more flushed out, I wish it was at least double the length

your story improvement ideas are genius (especially with adding ryan’s sister into the mix) you need to rewrite the whole thing omg

My main issue with the game was that god awful ending, like talk about blue balls. There’s no closure for almost the entire cast bar Laura and Ryan. It needed a far meatier ending where we get to see the surviving cast come together again and unite in their hellish night. Also; the majority of the cast loses importance to the plot by the halfway point. Max, Emma, Jacob, Abigail and the dude she likes, just get hugely sidelined by Chapter 7, and there’s still hours left. Then it becomes primarily about Laura and Ryan, with Kaitlyn also getting a nice chunk dedicated to her (which is good as Brenda Song was fantastic). It wasd just such a huge missed opportunity, hopefully they get a bigger budget next time so choices are more meaningful. Let us kill Ryan or Laura off and have super friends Emma and Abigail go to the Hackett House etc.

Laura really held the idiot ball this night. She broke into where Chris had been locked up. Wouldn’t that indicate that maybe, just maybe, he wouldn’t be wandering around? Also, Eliza wanting Silas alive. He’s living feral; is this really the life you want him to have? Is his life more important than it’s quality? Also wonder if Kaylee had gone to uncle Travis, and went with setting hay on fire after they (the cops) came back with an answer she didn’t like.

I honestly loved The Quarry so much.

My main gripe with The Quarry, and the reason why it falls short for me, is the lore. Until Dawn has perfect lore. It doesn't leave you with unanswered questions about the who, what, when, where, and most importantly, the WHY. It's the main reason why I'm drawn back to Until Dawn time and again. The world really feels lived in. Like this world could really exist out there somewhere. The Quarry doesn't do that. Why does Eliza exist? Why is Silas the first werewolf? Why include this history about the Hacketts being rum smugglers and do nothing with it? Why is the setting a quarry and not just a summer camp? The setting has absolutely nothing to do with the story itself and that's a massive missed opportunity.

My biggest disappointment with The Quarry is that the storyline with Dylan's crush on Ryan amounted to nothing. Honestly, why make Dylan the one gay character if it meant nothing? It really feels like they just wanted the diversity brownie points. In a lot of ways, actually- Until Dawn didn't have a gay character, so Dylan is gay! Even though that ultimately has no impact on anything. The one black guy in Until Dawn had some of the least screentime and one of the earliest deaths, so this time Ryan gets to be the big hero! Even though nothing is done with his actual character and story. The one asian girl in Until Dawn was a mean girl, so Kaitlynn gets to be the badass! Even though she doesn't really do anything. Honestly, I really feel like there wasn't enough game in this game. Until Dawn felt like a slasher movie in a lot of ways, but it had enough depth to feel like a GOOD slasher. The Quarry feels like a c-tier slasher movie at best. It could've been so much more, but they barely DID anything with the main cast. Laura is the most consistently compelling character for most people, and she technically isn't even a part of the main cast as we're introduced to them. It's just kind of... Sad. I wish this game were as good as it should've been.

Yeah I could never get into this game compared to until dawn

The quarry is one of my favorite games, and this video is REALLY REALLY GOOD !! I agree with almost everything you said, I have my gripes with the game too, I could go on and on lol. I especially agree with your points about the endings, they were kinda weak all things considered, they aren't the WORST thing ever but the fact there's so many of them kinda brings it down. It makes sense tho, I mean having 186 endings, it's going to be hard to flesh out each and every one to the fullest since there's just SO much that can happen in the game, but the fact the most common endings are just as basic is... odd, you think they'd be able to roughly predict which endings would be the most likely for a new player, and just make those more interesting and fleshed out. And wrap up loose ends in every ending its possible in (ex. Emma and Jacob meeting up again and talking at the end of the game) unless the characters are dead or infected I believe those should be included either way too... the Jacob Emma one can be a bit more iffy since it's situational but there could be, SOMETHING. And I agree with the points of abi and Emma not getting the proper ending to their arcs and a resolution of the nick kiss, since that part of the game is unavoidable. A lot of the beginning stuff is unavoidable so getting more info on the characters and their dynamics, we get SOME of that but not nearly enough to make it memorable. And the QTE's being easy was annoying to me too, I believe there should be an option to make them easy or difficult depending on if you'd want the "best" ending, but have the option to challenge yourself. It would be cool to have QTE combos too, similar to sonic unleashed maybe? I wouldn't want them ALL the time, but some choice moments would make it just that more intense !! Having Ryan be more developed as a character and have more of an arc is something I REALLY wanted but sadly didn't get, he wasn't as interesting as I'd hoped he would be. I'm not a big shipper or anything, but seeing if you chose to have him and Dylan flirt and it going nowhere was REALLY disappointing, especially as a gay man myself. Seeing that representation would have been nice (another thing I notices is the campfire kiss w Ryan, you get a close up if he kissed Kaitlyn, but with Dylan the camera is far away, making me thing they intentionally wanted to "hide" the small sprinkle of queer representation we did get, so that's definitely interesting to think about) And I did NOT like Laura before watching this video, I thought she was awful, especially because she flirted with Ryan many times despite being in a relationship with Max. But after hearing your perspective I've grown to like her a bit more!! The arc of her going from caring to selfish and borderline insane is something I somehow didn't pick up (I was too busy being mad at her lol) so that REALLY helped me appreciate her character more!! She still isn't a favorite but I can't say I hate her anymore! I think every character has their qualities and I don't think I HATE any of them, some are just more enjoyable than others This comment is getting LONG ENOUGH as it is but I LOVE this game and your commentary is basically all my thoughts and gripes put into words, and I would love to potentially rewrite the story to be a little better and more enjoyable!! That would take forever but 👀 it's something I'll consider TLDR; I love the quarry, and I agree with this video very much and it's very good!! It put a lot of my own thoughts into words and was overall a good review of the game and it IS worth watching all the way thru ✨️🌕

I kept EVERYBODY alive right til the last chapter then i lost about 4 characters in a 10 minute madness. Then realised that most of my mistakes were made way back in chapter 7.

i am absolutely blown away by this video. when you said you only had 1k subs i was FLABBERGASTED??? this is incredibly well done and perfectly organized! thank you for sharing!

31:40 I thought it was suggested that it was daughter of Chris that bite Abby? Since she gets kill no matter what, it means that Abby gets cured with her death...

I love videos like these, because they're able to help me understand some of my problems with a game when I can't find the right words. I love The Quarry but the endings really do feel flat as there's no real satisfying ending to all the characters' subplots. Hopefully Supermassive will see videos like these and use them to make their next game all the better. Great job! 🌕

A few things they could have done to tie Eliza in more is to have her sabotage things around the camp or maybe stage accidents where some of the campers will get hurt or almost go missing on full moons in an attempt to get the camp shut down. Also, someone mentioned this as well but having the traveling show happen more than six years ago would have been better. Can still have the backstory for how the family got cursed and instead have Chris be the one who freed Silas. Or maybe just make it to be more recent. This and just having a more climatic ending than just shooting Silas would have also been better. Maybe even having Eliza attack the player after you shot Silas would have been cool. Would have to establish how to kill a ghost before hand but you can just have Ryan say she can be killed by burning Elizas body or throwing water on her when he talks about the ghost in his podcast. Lara could also find this information when she goes through Travis stuff at the police station.

Maybe this is a weird thing with me but one of MY biggest problems with this game lies with the different outfit sets. In the end neither cell phones nor the podcast are really necessary for the plot to progress. I feel like this games time period should have been more ambiguous. It feels so weird to be wearing the 80s outfit set and not only have to listen to more modern music but also have stuff like cell phones, podcasts and Emma's videos that clash with that vibe. Having the game feel more generic in time period could also open up the possibility of other outfit sets such as a 1970s set. I thought the different outfit sets and filters were really cool, but I get so brought out of the moment by all the modern references.

Was Jacob still covered in blood in the cage or did he wash it off at some point? I'm asking because if he was still covered in blood in the cage, then why was he attacked and killed?

The Quarry is memorable for delivering the worst credit scene I have ever had the displeasure of experiencing. I do not know whose idea it was to have a podcast narrating but it was way to cingey and in bad taste to hear about a brat being so casual about- at best- a murder and - at worst- a massere. If there is ever a sequel to The Quarry, there needs to an option to knock them off

I would have loved even more control and choices in the game and to get an actual ending tailored to choices. What about the relationships? Where was the closure? What happened afterward. Does Emma forgive Jacob or does he decide he doesnt need her? If he changed would he go after her? Could Abi have helped turn Nick back to normal? Does Dylan get to be happy?

my main problem with the game is that the counselors are all pretty likeable but… most of them don’t do anything edit: also the lack of memorable deaths really puts a stick in the mud for me. Until Dawn had a plethora of memorable deaths for its characters so this game’s death scenes just amount to mauling and then the characters ragdolls just sucks imo

i just absolutely love this game, it’s clear a lot is missing tho due to covid and cut content. it’s a real shame bc this would’ve been an amazing game if they got more time to complete the game fully. a proper ending would’ve been great too involving all the characters working together as a team and to really wrap up those relationships and development. chapter 7 with laura also should’ve been split into sections throughout the earlier chapters or even cut down in size just a little as it’s such a chore during a replay and i don’t find it all that interesting. a lot of the characters kinda fall off and disappear once chapter 7 begins (mainly abi, nick, emma and jacob) which is a shame as everyone deserves almost equal screen/play time in my opinion. but yeah i love the game and i think it’s so fun it just feels kinda empty and not complete at parts. still an overall good game but it’s hard to sometimes overlook some of the problems it has. ALSO i love how u mentioned the until dawn basement scene!!!! like this game seriously needed all of the characters to interact with each other a WHOLE lot more. just thinking of all the missed opportunities makes me so sad. still i can’t express how much i love this game and it’s characters.

It was a great(if simple) story killed by it's medium. Most decisions you make don't feel impactful to the events of the story, and it didn't feel like it impacted the core story. The more you explored, the less freedom you felt you had. If they gave you more freedom to change the plot and adapt that around the story, it would have been a much better game. As it is, it was basically a mini-series and the players were on rails.

My biggest gripe about this game are the male characters (excluding Dillian). They're all a bunch of bumbling idiots, emasculated or just flat out boring/forgettable. House of Ashes nailed the characters the best since Until Dawn. And yes, Mike is our guy. What do y'all think?

37:19 Idk what happened in your playthrough but in mine if there was the slightest bit of red, you’re done. And for me, I tried letting the timer run out, BUT HE CAME BACK

🌕 amazing video, raghh. I completely agree with all the points you've made!! Especially the issues/questions with the story

🌕 great analysis, IMO laura's storyline was the only thing keeping me in this game lol. Would love to see you do Life is Strange soon!

🌕 I don't like horror at all usually, but I enjoyed watching a playthrough of this game (I didn't play it myself though). There is a lot in this video that I wasn't aware of, since the playthrough I watched managed to get almost everyone killed at the first opportunity (not intentionally, mind you).

I feel like them wanting to make their games heavily multiplayer and multiple play through based is what has ruined their games. I don’t fully remember if Until Dawn originally came out as multiplayer but I do know that most RU-vidrs who played it just got the opportunity to play all characters in one play through. The issue with things being multiplayer based is that if people end up not playing a certain character they basically miss a whole section of the game. I also just overall think they can’t make games like this without making them long, they’re making it way too short and they don’t get the opportunity to flesh out the majority of the characters.

and happy early birthday! october babies have to stick together so i’ll subscribe! i hope you have a great birthday and great video💜

this video got recommended to me 9 days late but im still here for it :D edit: looks like you hit your 1k sub goal, congrats! also, happy birthday!

🌕 Hbd Queen!! Just found your channel today luv it!!! Xxx

I absolutely LOVE werewolf games, movies, books, etc. This game got me excited but as it played out it was just too easy to predict and disappointing. The “werewolf” design was my biggest flaw, they just look like copy and paste versions of the “Canima” from Teen Wolf. I also thought the dialogue was interesting but went over the top at times which took me out of it. The first 30 minutes were SO AMAZING, after that the story felt like it was just trying to explain itself the whole time and it lost so much momentum that I didn’t really care who made it by the end. Overall, I’m definitely glad it got made, it just didn’t improve much from Until Dawn and I’d still say Until Dawn has a much bigger impact on me

Love the game, wish they would have played around with the water more. There was the sign that said stay out of the water so i thought maybe the monster came from the water lol. I jokingly called them Merwolfs before i learned the sign was unrelated.

I watched my friend play this game and I went in completely blind. I got so excited seeing Ted Rami because I didn’t expect him to be there and I almost never see him in anything any more. I made so many Chet Kaminski/ Joxer jokes that my friend had to pause the game and ask me to stop 😭

When I first played The Quarry it hooked me and I loved it so much I ended up playing it 4 more times over the course of a week. The first 2 playthroughs were fun (sans Laura's portions, to me they felt longer than they should've been but I'm a little impatient) and even though I enjoyed the others the more I played the more frustrated I got with how little my choices/actions affected anything. I still have a lot of love for The Quarry (it was my first horror game and it still has things to love about it), it always feels like such wasted potential and honestly a little unfinished

Imagine if Abi got bit and the outcome was that she shoved Nick away really good. And/or there was an option to never get Nick turned and there was a reverse situation with her and Nick.

My issue was we never got to really know the characters their storylines we was unfinished Laura was the most interesting and we didn’t know what happen to the characters after the game

First time viewer but I enjoyed this deep dive great work! Travis was my favorite character but I totally agree I wish they’d fleshed him out more!🌕

Jacob is my favorite character in the game, but yea they definitely needed more of his remorse and growth. Nick and Max were my other two favorites and it just sucks how little they both get to do. Nick is basically out of the story by chapter 4 and I wish we could’ve gotten more with him. Max was a scene stealer who got 3 minutes of gameplay, he absolutely deserved more time in the spotlight.

I think that where The Quarry succeeds more than the other games is the theme and the cinematography. The colors, the pure 80's energy of a gore-fest summer camp horror movie, the werewolves? The whole thing felt very classic. But where it fell flat for some people I think was being too obvious in some areas and too vague in others, as well as making a lot of the plot points feel pretty contrived. Like, why doesn't the summer camp end/start with like a week of padding between full moons? How did they manage the full moons while kids were AT camp, other than the "lodge slumber party", when the lodge was shown to be unsafe anyway? Honestly, I think the vast majority of the story could have been solved if they'd just said it was the Hackett's first time being werewolves or something. Cut the extra bit with Ryan and Laura at their giant house and instead have the entire cast find out about Silas at the same time. Idk. It's still a lot of fun though, and probably my favorite in the series.

I found the quarry cast super unlikable compared to Until Dawn. And Emily was my favorite in until dawn EDIT: But the game was fun, just not as fun for repeat play through s for me. The Final Girl ending is cool though

i’ve personally never heard of the quarry before despite loving until dawn when it came out but you did a phenomenal job with this video! it’s so rare to find fellow female video essayists on youtube so it was an instant sub for me! can’t wait to see what you do next!

i dont like how the werewolves look in this tbh, its to humanoid for me, gave ghoul or zombie rather then wolf 💀 the transformation was fun tho

I really enjoyed the game BUT I agree there were a number of misses near/at the conclusion of the story. The reward for a perfect run is the least eventful and least satisfying ending. Just feels like they ran out of time.

🌕 I can’t believe you left out “ninety one one”

Man, I loved Until Dawn, and I got The Quarry day one and it was honestly so fucking horrible, the second I beat it, I deleted it. What a fuckin unbelievable drop in quality.

happy early birthday!

I love Laura and Max so much, they saved the game for me!🌑

My only gripe with it was that it was too self aware of itself. I would've liked it if it took itself a bit more seriously.

I didn’t vibe with it tbh. the werewolf design felt like discount wendigos and the lack of a real ending annoyed me

I think chapter 7 was to long and most of the time when I replay it puts me off I think it should have just been Laura talking in the pool house and have a choice come up and say the things that happened in the prison and it could have had a choice saying if she shot travis or not I also think everybody should have been able to become a werewolf and have an ending where everyone turns so the game would end early I think instead of the dead/alive thing they should have done the police interviews and have the counsellors traumatised and crying and have an extra chapter where the survivors are in prison and they have to be good to get out early instead of the podcast other than those things I absolutely love this game

Great analysis. I do agree with a lot of it. I do have some thoughts though. 6:25 - I never really noticed many glitches in previous playthroughs other than Ryan's eyes seem to be stuck looking to the left while talking to Laura in the pool house and some cutscenes will have the audio play before the actual scene and then the audio jumps back to match up. 9:22 - I think maybe the amount of content the developers either cut out or cut short could be ruled down to rushing for the release date...I'm not saying it's a valid reason per-se but COVID would have had something to do with it. 20:08 - Yeah Eliza is only happy when you kill the Hacketts and allow Silas to live 20:45 - You can get all councillors infected - in fact there is even a trophy/achievement for it but Abi is the only one that doesn't turn because she was bitten by Kaylee who is later killed by Laura. Ok there's also Kaitlyn that doesn't turn but that's just because she can only be infected in the junkyard 21:45 - if you play it right you can have Jacob confess to Emma about sabotaging the van - but I do agree that scene should have been towards the end when everyone else is around or something. 25:28 - Laura only killed Kaylee because she mistook her for Chris Hackett. She's just trying to cure Max 29:05 - ok I'll give you the Abi one I was skeptical on that too.. unless you get her bitten beforehand, because if you get a character - like Jacob for instance, bitten before he's captured them leave him in the cage later on then werewolf Nick won't attack and eat him when the doors open, it will just walk out. it's like they can smell the infection or something and never attack never attack one of their own. When approaching Silas at the end, yes, he was just attacking the car but was also run over, so he was probably waiting to heal from the injuries. Remember Travis pointed out spotting Blood before heading into the woods. 31:04 - Nick's attack was more severe than Abi's. Nick had cuts from head to toe with a noticeable bite on his leg and most likely other places too - they just weren't shown. Abi however, if she does get bitten is only on the neck/shoulder, imo because Nick's attack was more severe it accelerated his transformation - other than pushing Bobby away Neither of them show any noticeable changes until Chapter 6 in the pool house, Nick may have attitude moments here and there but doesn't show any physical changes until the pool house scene. But Kaylee is already dead at that point so Abi is no longer infected. 31:21 - Nick is Bitten by Caleb, Silas doesn't appear until Ryan and Dylan are in the radio hut. Maybe Jedidiah was shooting at Caleb and Bobby was shooting at Kaylee. Remember the werewolf flees and Bobby immediately tries to see if Abi is infected but when she runs away he goes to get Nick. 1:05:38 - The Body in the lake is the reason they didn't want anyone swimming in the lake. And it's quite far down and if it's not found unless Jacob stumbles across it while trying to retrieve the rotor arm. I'm not trying to degrade the video or anything I really did enjoy It and respect the work you put into it. These are just my opinions

WHAT A GREAT VIDEO!

First, I gotta say that it's so cool to find somebody else with the same birthday lol. In terms of the video, I agree with this game being underwhelming, shame since it had lots of potential

Excellent video 🌕

I didn’t like that just about everything that came out of their mouths was a joke

Happy early birthday! 😍😍😍🥳🎊🎉🎁🕯🍾🥂🍰🎂🎈

i enjoyed the quarry quite a bit, but ill be the first to complain about it lol. there were so many good opportunities to make it incredible. thank you so much for this deep dive!

you should totally livestream the next supermassive game!

What’s your thoughts on the new game that there doing set in the DBD universe

I remember watching Quarry then Until Dawn when someone streamed those. And there's a major difference in characters that probably is the reason why Quarry ones lack development or depth. In Until Dawn, pretty much all characters except Sam start out as assholes (or if they don't start as ones, they quickly develop into them), to the point that players might be glad that some of them died. Like, from streamer and chat there was no care that Jessica got abducted, no care that Emily fell, no care that Matt disappeared, no care for Josh after the reveal, no care for Ashley after she killed Chris, but also no care that Chris got killed. Literally Matt survived to the ending because Emily was considered so obnoxious that streamer preffered to not save her. The only character people grew on was Mike and Sam was still the favorite. In Quarry most characters (with exception of Emma and Jacob) are instantly likeable instead, which makes it more tense to try to save them during the game. That only grows and even Emma and Jacob become more likeable as the game progresses, same with Travis who is at first portrayed as villain. Not to mention that while in Until Dawn the characters behave like they could easily leave others to die (and some do), in Quarry they work together and are willing to risk themselves for each other to survive. Probably because of those reasons I prefer Quarry. On a side note, the similar thing happens in Dark Pictures between Little Hope (where characters are unbearable that make it challenging to want to save them) and House of Ashes (where characters are a team and they don't want to leave anyone behind, to the point that it might cost one character a life). Like, altruism and teamwork for me are way more pleasant to watch that constant fights (and I bet not just me).

i really hoped that with a cast of 5 campers, they would like flesh out them?, give them more background or interactions with eachother, i get that in until dawn we have 8 heros, but we get to know very well maybe 4 or 5 of them (mike,sam,emily,chris & ashley) but yeah nick got like ten lines. yes this game was somewhat lackluster tbh, but nothing compared to little hope, that one is dead last

I would have loved it if the game put in a feature that The evidence found by a character will be lost if this character dies. Something i would have loved is if the group got the chance to come together during the night and share everything they got to know about their current situation.

Yeah the werewolf transformation is definitely one of my favorite aspects of this game 🙌 I've never played either game-I don't have the consoles and I don't really play too many games in general--but I loooooove watching people play them. I've watched multiple playthroughs of both, but definitely more videos as a whole for Until Dawn. I remember feeling a little bit of disappointment about The Quarry but I had seriously JUST binged so much UD shit cause I just thought it was so unbelievably good, it was a hard act to follow. But I mean, saying TQ isn't AS good as UD isn't any real insult, huh. On top of the transformation I've never been huge on werewolves but these are some of my favorites I've seen :)

The reason Abby never turns is because Laura kills Katie who is the wolf who bit Abby, thus ending that line of curses before it takes place Edit: Should really finish the video before commenting haha