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What Happens After Death? NT Wright on Heaven, Hell, and Salvation 

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📜 What is the true nature of hell? Can we really be happy in heaven knowing some loved ones might not be there?
🎙️ In this episode of Ask NT Wright Anything, Tom Wright tackles these profound listener questions, offering his perspective on the nature of hell, heaven, and salvation. Tom also explores different theological views, including:
🔥 What does Tom believe about the nature of hell?
🌍 Are annihilationism or universalism valid Christian beliefs?
💔 How can we find joy in heaven if loved ones are absent?
Join Tom as he delves into the complexities of eternal life, justice, and how Christian hope can coexist with the tough questions about hell and salvation. This episode provides clarity on age-old debates around heaven, hell, and the fate of humanity, from one of the world’s leading New Testament scholars.
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About NT (Tom) Wright: Tom Wright is one of the world’s leading New Testament scholars and the author of numerous books including Surprised by Hope, The Day The Revolution Began, Paul: A Biography and most recently Jesus and the Powers. He is senior research fellow at Wycliffe Hall, University of Oxford. Wright is ordained in the Church of England and, among other roles, served as Bishop of Durham between 2003 - 2010. He is much in demand as a lecturer around the world and the author for the bestselling For Everyone commentary series and the New Testament For Everyone Bible translation. Wright is married to Maggie and they have 4 children. As well as being a voracious reader, he loves classical music and opera and enjoys playing the guitar!

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@PatrickAdams-q7r
@PatrickAdams-q7r 3 часа назад
I really appreciate NT's comments on the idea of heaven as our destination after death. This idea is simply not biblical, but I hear Christians say it constantly (I usually bite my tongue). Indeed, our destination is the kingdom of God as the new and reunited heaven and earth.. God himself comes to dwell forever with his people in this kingdom--the earth is where we were created to live forever--this is what was lost in the fall. Christ, the God-man, reunites these two realities.
@ronpalmer1682
@ronpalmer1682 День назад
Why can't the questions be answered directly? The answers sound political. I'm left confused.
@PatrickAdams-q7r
@PatrickAdams-q7r Час назад
How often does Jesus answer questions directly? Didn't the disciples ask him to speak plainly?
@kbrad1267
@kbrad1267 Час назад
I have been studying NT wright for a little bit now and it's almost like that he is afraid to offend the world and ungodly and is very careful not to make a firm stand on any doctrines proclaimed as an absolute truth ,which to me I read it offends Jesus.😢
@Metarig
@Metarig 2 дня назад
The common objection to universal salvation goes like this: "Why assume God will save everyone? That’s just your own wishful thinking projected onto God. You're assuming that everyone has some goodness in them that God will eventually restore. But God is just-He knows who to save and who is beyond salvation." But isn’t this critique also an assumption? On what basis do you believe that some people are beyond salvation? Did God ever say that? In fact, everything we know about God points to the opposite-that He can do whatever He wants, and He has clearly said that He desires to save everyone.
@Outspoken.Humanist
@Outspoken.Humanist 2 дня назад
Everything in religion is an assumption. Everything. You don't truly 'know' anything about God. Theists mistake religious beliefs for factual knowledge and then create dogma and traditions to support those beliefs until everything feels like its real. But there is absolutely no way show that. Then men spend lifetimes arguing obscure points based merely upon opinions debating opinions about beliefs.
@Athabrose
@Athabrose 2 дня назад
Well put. Fellow Universal Restorationist here.
@RKLCan
@RKLCan 2 дня назад
​@@Outspoken.HumanistAll opinions on salvation are opinions. Unless we have an authority. Like God and his word the Bible
@Outspoken.Humanist
@Outspoken.Humanist 2 дня назад
@@RKLCan But that depends entirely upon believing a number of assumptions. That God exists precisely as you imagine and that the bible is God's word. And the only assurance we have of that is, the bible. We have absolutely no way to show either of these assumptions is true and i'm sure you don't question them. But why not? I would also, respectfully, suggest you read the bible a little more critically and you will see that there is no single agreed upon route to salvation, or even a single description or understanding of God.
@runningwithdwarves
@runningwithdwarves 2 дня назад
@@RKLCan "Like God and his word the Bible" which is another assumptive leap and not at all conclusive or provable.
@Hofftimusprime1
@Hofftimusprime1 59 минут назад
His idea of forgiveness reminded me of a the Beatles “the love you take is equal to the love you make”.
@lindalemme8964
@lindalemme8964 День назад
I like NT Wright but I find that he meanders all over the place and never answers the question.
@mervynsykes3482
@mervynsykes3482 2 дня назад
As a child of the 60s .in evangelism we were shown 2 pictures of someone on there death bed,One was surrounded by Angels the other by devils complete with pitchforks,red suits ,etc.,
@rw3452
@rw3452 2 дня назад
What is his answer as it was very waffling and maybe I missed it.
@sdb6757
@sdb6757 День назад
lol, when listening to NT Wright I usually end up knowing less about the topic than when he started.
@chronicmango
@chronicmango День назад
His answer is that Heaven is actually going to be a summation of Earth and Heaven in the new creation, that there is a holding place after death called paradise, and that he believes in some sort of final hell - but he can’t decide between some measure of annhilationism (the imaged ones rejecting their image of God) and eternal conscious torment, but he seems to lean fairly more toward annhilationism, given his reference of Lewis’ talking beasts.
@rw3452
@rw3452 День назад
@@chronicmango thanks so much I was worried someone would reply negatively for asking. I appreciate the time and clarity.
@PatrickAdams-q7r
@PatrickAdams-q7r 4 часа назад
As a former Protestant who converted to Eastern Orthodoxy over 25 years ago, nothing was more refreshing than Orthodoxy's absolutely profound understanding of who Christ is and what he accomplished (Christology). One's view of eternity hangs on a rock solid Christology. There are several things that I think need mentioning, and I think I would start with the idea of the eternal soul. This idea, as far as I've found, has absolutely no basis in Scripture. Only God is eternal. Period.He can grant us eternal life (which always includes the body, as the Incarnation/resurrection makes clear) through the work of Christ, but it is not innate to humanity--the Tree of Life was taken from us. Christ became that very Tree of Life in a cosmic inversion of the dead tree of the crucifixion and His dead body into the life-giving tree and the fruit of his body as eternal life. This event also includes Christ's destroying of Death AND Hell through his resurrection. I often ask evangelical Christians where hell is if He did in fact destroy it? Did he destroy the power of death and hell or not? I believe many evangelical/Protestant believers have embraced a very distorted and harmful Christology. There is a great deal of fallout from this and much more that could be said about, but I think I'll stop there for now.
@BrysonCole-rl2rj
@BrysonCole-rl2rj 2 часа назад
The destruction of sin and death is yet to come, as evidenced by the fact the Creation is still frustrated (Romans), our loved ones are still dying and Christ’s Kingdom is yet to come on earth as it is in Heaven.
@WPFinlay
@WPFinlay 2 дня назад
Instead of the lengthy theological talk we have here, for me it was simply what Jesus said very clearly about Heaven and Hell in Matthew 25 that led me to reject Him - dividing mankind very clearly into sheep and goats, with endless fire for the goats. I thought to take the problem to a clergyman, and to prepare I wanted to find all the places where Jesus spoke in this way. I sat down with Luke. As I read the Holy Spirit came to me through every word, and the Love of Christ enfolded me. No answer to me about Hell, just the overwhelming presence of the Saviour. I wish big name theologians could convey to us something of this - even though the Hell question is left unanswered, Christ will always triumph for us even in our angry opposition to Him.
@Starchaser63
@Starchaser63 2 дня назад
@@WPFinlay Jesus speaking about heaven and hell in the bible is not evidence....
@katiecugini979
@katiecugini979 День назад
​@Starchaser63 the problem is our English translations have taken 4 different words that have different meanings- sheol, hades, gehenna, and tartarus and translated them all into the word hell. So, be careful when you assume Jesus is speaking about hell. Sometimes Jesus is speaking to the Jews about the upcoming destruction of Jerusalem and the temple and the language he uses could sound like he us speaking of the end of the world.
@s2a1ha1j2a
@s2a1ha1j2a 7 часов назад
I love the distinctions between Hebrew/Christian understandings of soul/life after death and those of Plato. It seems one's conception of soul is the crux of many of these conundrums. Why not ask Dr. Wright about his view of near death experience, which points toward the reality of what he called the Platonic view of the soul: eternal in its nature. Near death experience forms the basis of so many people's faith these days. But if the Hebrew/Christian soul is dependent on the body and needs the gift of eternality from God to continue after death, what of these reports, many of which express certainty of a loving God as the essence of everything?
@museprof
@museprof 16 часов назад
Before watching the video, here's my answer to the question: There are no good people. We are all bad people and we are sending ourselves to hell. God mercifully chooses to save some and take them to heaven instead. (Very Calvinistic, I know.)
@seanpierce9386
@seanpierce9386 2 дня назад
Despite claiming to reject modern reinterpretation, he’s still doing it. In Jesus’s time, it would have been well-understood that he was talking about a new Kingdom of Israel, which only the righteous would be permitted to enter. When Jesus mentions Gehenna, he’s referring to a physical place (look it up). It’s also clear that Jesus himself preached repentance, and a return to righteousness, while Paul introduced salvation through faith. At 17:24, notice how he reframed the second question as though anyone who can’t accept the Gospel has been hurt in some way, and that it’s at least somewhat their fault for refusing to see the good side of Christianity. That’s not the problem, it’s the evidence. This is directly related to the Problem of Divine Hiddenness and the existence of non-resistant nonbelievers. His statement at 19:39 was telling. This is not an answer, it’s an excuse. Without wiping people’s memories, it’s impossible for people to be fully satisfied with Heaven. Here’s a thought: Why not bypass suffering and skip straight to the best possible world? If it’s better than Earth there’s no point in creating Earth at all.
@morriswambugu8292
@morriswambugu8292 2 дня назад
You are right
@user-kv1po2dm5j
@user-kv1po2dm5j День назад
That’s actually a common misconception. The archeological and textual data do not reference Gehenna as a physical place of punishment until about 1,200 years after the composition of the New Testament. Before the New Testament, within the New Testament, and after the New Testament, Gehenna was understood as a postmortem place of divine punishment. I don’t like to make claims by my own authority, so I’ll refer you to Dan McClellan’s video “Was Gehenna a Place for the Punishment of the Living?” which he made two years ago. Edit: I should say that Gehenna was not a burning trash heap in the 1st century.
@seanpierce9386
@seanpierce9386 День назад
@@user-kv1po2dm5j Thank you for the correction. I’ll have to do some more research on that. There must be some reason why it was associated with Hell (or vice versa) but his video didn’t fully clarify that for me.
@Yonen1688
@Yonen1688 День назад
"why not bypass suffering and skip to the best possible world"... This is like spoiling our children with every possible luxury instead of letting them learn how to become responsible adults God doesn't want eternal babies, he made us in his image
@seanpierce9386
@seanpierce9386 День назад
@@Yonen1688 I guess we should let the children play with knives, then. It’s one thing to challenge people and quite another to inflict suffering. Those of us in countries with access to the internet sometimes forget that. In order for your theodicy to work, every bit of suffering would be there to teach us a lesson, and I don’t think that’s the case. After all, there are some people who suffer and never hear the Gospel, in which case they will end up suffering for all eternity in Hell.
@acts-me8xr
@acts-me8xr 2 дня назад
Knowing NT wright He probably just gave a 30 minute long nuanced speech and danced around the whole answering of the actual question. Jesus makes it abundantly clear that yes God sends people to hell. I just saved you 32 minutes. 1. Matthew 10:28 "Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell." 2. Matthew 25:41 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.'” 3. Matthew 25:46 "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life." 4. 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 "He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might." 5. Revelation 20:15 "Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire." 6. Mark 9:43 "If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out."
@tedsess3106
@tedsess3106 День назад
Well done.
@barringtonthompsonbedascba7855
I ca not believe NT Wright says Hell is Plato. Satan with red skin and a 3 teeth fork is Greek mythology but not Hell. Hell is all over the New Testament. If we throw out Hell we might as well throw out hom0$€xuality, which these preachers nowadays so badly want to do.
@joshuagarraway1041
@joshuagarraway1041 День назад
🤦🏼‍♂️
@StevenAndre-t9m
@StevenAndre-t9m День назад
AMEN!
@Yonen1688
@Yonen1688 День назад
Counter Point God will judge some by their own conscience (see "EXCUSING" end of v15) Rom 2:14 This is how it works out. Gentiles don’t possess the law as their birthright; but whenever they do what the law says, they are a law for themselves, despite not possessing the law. 15 They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts. Their conscience bears witness as well, and their thoughts will run this way and that, sometimes accusing them and sometimes excusing them, 16 on the day when (according to the gospel I proclaim) God judges all human secrets through Messiah Jesus.
@lawnmowerman716
@lawnmowerman716 День назад
Why do intellectuals refuse to just say “yes, hell is real. The Bible clearly teaches hell is real.” None of this “final loss” nonsense. Hell is real. Jesus believes in it and taught it.
@DIBBY40
@DIBBY40 День назад
Because intellectuals used their intelligence.
@williamoarlock8634
@williamoarlock8634 13 часов назад
The bible is never 'clear' on anything that is why you have all this 'interpretation'.
@benindahl9233
@benindahl9233 10 часов назад
Hell? Jesus taught it and believed? Research Gehenna and its meaning! Not Hell (a pagan concept and actually a pagan word Hel)
@simonbutcher8534
@simonbutcher8534 10 часов назад
@@benindahl9233Matt. 25:46 “And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life”.
@graememonie468
@graememonie468 5 часов назад
Don’t be so stupid. There is no heaven, no hell and no god. Show evidence of hell, show evidence of a god. Religion is absolutely made up nonsense 😅
@WilliamDusing
@WilliamDusing День назад
Have we received an official word on this podcast? Will it just be re-released content from here on out?
@gregormann7
@gregormann7 День назад
Where does the questioner get the idea that there will be no tears in heaven? The fact that God will wipe away all tears presupposes them. Rev 21-22 follow Rev 20, I believe. There will likely be oceans of tears to wipe away. And how long will that take given the pure sincerity of grief that will generate them? Furthermore, when Jesus mentions in the gospel accounts a future moment that will entail “weeping and wailing”-so often wrongly taken to describe some vision of Dante’s inferno-these are always descriptors used to describe the emotional response of tragic loss of that which is loved. The bewailing of grief in regards to OTHERS.
@AndiZ23
@AndiZ23 12 часов назад
Tom Wright has studied and written a lot. But his inability to teach truth in clear short sentences is a sign of spiritual confusion. How different to the New Testament and Jesus' own teaching! Please don't let him confuse you. Praying for God's mercy for this man.
@kbrad1267
@kbrad1267 Час назад
The more I listen to NT wright the more that I believe that he should be a Roman Catholic in his doctrines, most of that was almost in agreement with the Roman Catholic teaching of purgatory and universalism that God will accept all people eventually no matter what religion for God they worshiped in this life after they die... It's quite sad 😢
@normgardner4560
@normgardner4560 День назад
There are no good people, just the saved and the unsaved!
@Wander4self
@Wander4self Час назад
what are you saved from? critical thinking skills?
@MarthaEllen88
@MarthaEllen88 2 дня назад
I am sad how NT has dismissed the case for universal restoration. There are many variations. Including versions which are very biblically based and not 'easy' or cheap grace. Check out Robin Parry in lectures, interviews and on his channel.
@rayleneberryman7673
@rayleneberryman7673 День назад
Brad Jersak’s book “Her Gates are Never Closed” might be an interesting read.
@DIBBY40
@DIBBY40 День назад
It's really the only position that makes sense given a good God.
@Yonen1688
@Yonen1688 День назад
can you at least give a teaser explanation so I don't potentially waste my time
@devinbrooks3927
@devinbrooks3927 6 часов назад
@@Yonen1688 Robin Perrys version of Universal Salvation is basically that there is a Hell, but it's not eternal. And that in the very end of all things, all of creation (including those in hell) will be restored to God. His views are actually pretty interesting, even if you disagree with them.
@martinploughboy988
@martinploughboy988 3 часа назад
@@DIBBY40 A good God must also be just.
@JohnSpencer90
@JohnSpencer90 День назад
The idea of Hell as something other than a place of suffering and pain may not sit well with many modern Christians, who often find satisfaction in the imagery of non-Christians receiving the punishment they deserve. I believe William Lane Craig calls it "the demands of divine justice".
@DIBBY40
@DIBBY40 День назад
You're right. It's very seductive to the dysfunctional ego which loves to be "right". Eternal hell is the ultimate satisfaction for the believer; the eternal " I was right, you were wrong" ego trip. It is devoid of love, although it cannot see it.
@williamoarlock8634
@williamoarlock8634 13 часов назад
@@DIBBY40 But 'dysfunctional ego' is the 'image of god'.
@tedclemens4093
@tedclemens4093 2 дня назад
Add the unforgiving servant story to the one of the rich man pleading for a sponge to soothe his own tongue (Luke 16) sheds light on being judged as we judge (Matt. 7:2). After all, how we judge others explains how we already judge ourselves. An eternity won't provide enough time to flee self-condemnation.
@williamoarlock8634
@williamoarlock8634 13 часов назад
This god should have thought of this before making us in its judgemental 'image'.
@tedclemens4093
@tedclemens4093 6 часов назад
@@williamoarlock8634 He did. The judgmentalism is necessary. (It at least gets us in out of the rain.) But it also gets out of hand. This is what the Gospel (the whole Bible for that matter) addresses. So to the self-condemning God says (at the start), "Your sins are forgiven."
@_2013-2022
@_2013-2022 7 часов назад
What do you want from men who denied imputation of Christ's righteousness? Only one option left-no hell.
@lbjay8914
@lbjay8914 2 дня назад
Yea I think you guys just made quite a few Universalists. Would be fruitful to dive deeper and really put your objections under a microscope.
@IamGrimalkin
@IamGrimalkin 2 дня назад
Justin is a (true) annihilationist, he just doesn't project his views on his guests.
@lbjay8914
@lbjay8914 День назад
@@IamGrimalkin I know, my point was these were terrible arguments for their view and terrible objections to Universalism. Even though I personally am a Universalist, I know they can do better. ESPECIALLY NT Wright.
@walterdaems57
@walterdaems57 5 часов назад
Let me tell you about death. Falling asleep in front of the tv without the waking up. That’s death for you in all its magnificent glory.
@markquigley9730
@markquigley9730 День назад
I was very disappointed with this. Much of it was vague and abstract, often using mythical language, when what I wanted was as clear as possible an explanation of what is really going to happen to us after death. "Heaven" and "Hell" are place names and to understand the issues I think it essential to start by providing an understanding of cosmic geography. The Bible has many terms that imply a cosmic geography. A good example is "Sheol" - Hebrew for the underworld - in the OT. This need not mean what Dante meant by "Hell", but is definitely "down", not up. Similarly Jesus told the repentant thief he would be in "Paradise" with Him after death. Elsewhere we learn Jesus went "down" not up before the resurrection, which at the very least implies Paradise then (maybe not now!) was "down". Paul tells us that he went up to the "third Heaven", which implies there are two other heavens. I could go on... With a bit of time and effort I think it is certainly possible to construct a coherent understanding of cosmic geography from the Bible, so why not do it? It may lack detail, but tells us enough to know quite a lot. Once we have that, then describe what goes on in each place. There is enough to give as a decent idea. Incidentally, I have found modern NDE research very helpful in putting flesh on the Biblical bones to coin a phrase. (See Dr J Steve Miller's excellent books on the subject.) A second disappointment was NTW's implicit acceptance that there are many "good" people, who for understandable reasons don't come to faith before death and who seem ideal material for Heaven. The problem is that according to the Bible there is only one genuinely "good" person (Mar 10:18) and that is Jesus. Only those united with Him and who therefore share in His goodness get to Heaven. It's elementary stuff - the basic gospel - yet NTW didn't say it. Sadly I have lost a lot of respect for him.
@NomadOutOfAfrica
@NomadOutOfAfrica День назад
NT says the meanings of words are slippery. But not as slippery as theology which he just makes up to sit his culture and time. There is no word of god. Every generation makes up it's own meaning. Nothing could be more obvious.
@DianaKathleenBurgess
@DianaKathleenBurgess 6 минут назад
In Revelation we are taught that the beast and the Antichrist will be thrown into the lake of fire and suffer eternally and then those whose names are not written in the book will be thrown in and this will be the second death. Therefore they will be annihilated.
@dynamicloveministries334
@dynamicloveministries334 6 часов назад
Prof Wright states that he believes what Lewis believes, leaning towards annihilationism.
@theresawebb8064
@theresawebb8064 2 дня назад
Jesus spoke more of hell than heaven.also a parable doesn't mention names .he talks of the rich man in hades and Abraham and laxarus in paradise..where jesus took the thief. To paradise. Idk if hell is eternal..or finalized in the lake of fire second death..but i just dont want to find out.. accept jesus because there is no promise of tmr..if good could get u to heaven. We didn't need jesus did we..ty very much
@kentzepick4169
@kentzepick4169 2 дня назад
And he didn’t say much about hell much either. What he did talk about-a lot-was that the Kingdom of God/Heaven was at hand and all the blessings that would flow from that would come too. So, no, hell wasn’t a big part of his preaching. And, by the way, he used the word “Gehenna,” not hell. Gehenna was a garage dump outside Jerusalem, which sometimes would burn and sometimes not. May he intended to mean “hell, but I wouldn’t so eagerly conclude that’s what he meant. Unless you’re eager about sending people to hell.
@katiecugini979
@katiecugini979 День назад
​@@kentzepick4169I can't believe people think Jesus talked more about hell than his coming kingdom.
@ShawHortonMusic
@ShawHortonMusic День назад
The idea that Jesus “spoke more of hell than heaven” simply isn’t true, and I’m sad the idea hasn’t gone away. By far, the most prominent topic of Christ’s preaching was the Kingdom of God, specifically how that Kingdom is breaking through into our world, which is why he told his disciples to pray that God’s will be done “in earth, as it is in heaven.” Additionally, Christ preached a call to repentance: he taught us a new way to live in THIS lifetime, as members of the family of God. “From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” - Matthew 4:17
@kentzepick4169
@kentzepick4169 23 часа назад
@@ShawHortonMusic Amen
@richardbowker1338
@richardbowker1338 День назад
I don't follow the conclusion of the last poster, NTWs ability to waffle around any subject drives me mad. I think it's because he wants to keep in with as many as possible. So don't say anything definite in simple language. I've still no idea what he believes. But I suspect he really believes in eternal conscious punishment, but like CSL thinks hells not too bad a place. I'm a Universalist, and I admit the difficulties but NTWs casual dismissal is a pity.
@David-zh5is
@David-zh5is День назад
If I could offer my thoughts, In verse 15 Roman 5 Adam thrust the many/all people into death without their permission. 😔 In the same way God’s grace super abounded to the same many/all people without their permission.😃 Remember God‘s grace is not impotent Titus 2:11-12. This proves the receiving in verse 17 is passive in the sense that God brings it about in the many/all people just like the first sin brought about death in the many/all people and then verse 18,19,20,21 just mean what they say. Much love,
@MichaelGreen-hk3mx
@MichaelGreen-hk3mx 13 часов назад
He must get exhausted from all the dancing around the question he does
@bayreuth79
@bayreuth79 День назад
Some people find the end of final loss offensive? Yes, of course. How could one not find it offensive? On the basis of limited knowledge and limited awareness, not to mention finite sins, God allows one to ruin oneself forever? It is just not compatible with the notion that God is love or good or merciful, unless one uses these terms equivocally (as Calvin does). And why would anyone reject God forever? If God is the source and end of all goodness, truth and beauty, we could only reject God as a consequence of a deep seated ignorance. Why would anyone in their right mind knowingly choose misery over infinite happiness and goodness? One would have to be either ignorant or insane and therefore God would have to be less than perfect goodness to permit that. To know God is to want God. How could it be otherwise?
@JoBo301
@JoBo301 День назад
If God is as good as the Christians say he is, and hell is as bad as the Christians say it is, who in their right minds would knowingly chose hell??
@bayreuth79
@bayreuth79 День назад
@@JoBo301 Yes, exactly. You could only choose "hell" under the aspect of the good, in which case you would misperceive it, and so you wouldn't be choosing it. Moreover, you cannot reject God if you fully understand what God means. If God = the true, the good and the beautiful, you cannot reject him as your will is always orientated to them, as even St Thomas Aquinas says. You cannot will evil qua evil.
@say10..
@say10.. 5 часов назад
If God designed a creation which results in people going to hell then God sends people to hell. God is ultimately responsible for EVERYTHING
@Outspoken.Humanist
@Outspoken.Humanist 2 дня назад
Anyone who tells you they know what happens after death is either a liar or a fool. The presupposition here is that Christianity and it's traditions are correct, but that cannot be shown to be true. They are merely beliefs; simple opinions. They might be true but they might equally be untrue and there is absolutely no way to know for certain.
@georgekrats2573
@georgekrats2573 2 дня назад
I know... We have a bible and God explains it all in simple language even a child could know for sure. John 1 . read it.
@Outspoken.Humanist
@Outspoken.Humanist 2 дня назад
@@georgekrats2573 I have read it, cover to cover, many times, for over 40 of my 66 years. I am a student of the bible and religion and I remain unconvinced. But my skepticism isn't the issue. You seem to be simply accepting the bible as true but have you ever looked at it critically or read the work of biblical scholars? Imagine, just for a moment, that the many different authors of the bible were just men, doing their best, and that whilst some of it is useful and some of it deeply disturbing, none of it can be shown to be truth or fact using verifiable evidence. That would not mean God doesn't exist. It wouldn't even mean Jesus was not divine. But it should make you question what you think you know. What I have described is the reality of the bible. It is a collection of very different books by men with different agendas and different views on God. There is not and never has been a single uniform message. What you believe is none of my business, and you may even be right. I can't prove otherwise I only seek to highlight the differences between what we believe and we can know to be fact.
@georgekrats2573
@georgekrats2573 2 дня назад
@@Outspoken.Humanist what is your source of truth? Jesus said I am the Way the Truth and the Life.go to john 1 says the Word was God .then verse 14 it says And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. - Jhn 1:14 KJV the bible is my truth..how about you mr i read the bible for 40 years and still am not convinced. whats the problem? lack of faith? i read the bible through about 2 times a year . i study i go to bible study go to prayer .they even let me preach a couple times. im 62 got saved around 50 years old so i havent studied as much as you but i 100% trust Gods word as truth.
@Outspoken.Humanist
@Outspoken.Humanist День назад
@@georgekrats2573 Truth is something which is in accordance with the facts. Facts are only established through verifiable evidence. You quote Jesus and the gospels as if you are automatically speaking the truth but you have no way to show that. All you are really doing is repeating words written by other men. Words you may believe but which you cannot show to be true.
@georgekrats2573
@georgekrats2573 День назад
@@Outspoken.Humanist thats your loss
@horridhenry9920
@horridhenry9920 День назад
This is like asking what house your going to be in when you go to Hogwarts.
@MarvinAlvarez-fe4fl
@MarvinAlvarez-fe4fl День назад
He is wrong
@istudante
@istudante 12 часов назад
Tell us where he is wrong then
@kbrad1267
@kbrad1267 Час назад
I do believe that NT wright is absolutely wrong about hell and not for sure what he stands for or confirms when it comes to specific doctrines of the Christian faith because it's almost like he's afraid to offend the world and the ungodly. It kind of reminds me of the Pope the way that he speaks because it's hard to nail down exactly what he is confirming
@rochsner23
@rochsner23 День назад
Heaven and Hell is just a framework of the good and evil man has inside him - the internal struggle we all have between the animalistic side of us and the spiritual side of us. Both are evolutionary traits that have evolved for survival.
@rosch99
@rosch99 День назад
This, as all theological discussions go, debates points of interest to theology. There's a huge disconnect between theology and how things actually work in the real world. So in reality, history proves that hell doesn't exist. But this evidence is never factored in to any theological discussion i've ever heard. Which, invalidates every theological discussion I've ever heard. Theologians have nothing valid to say about God, life, the meaning of life, and the Afterlife until they honestly address the historicity of hell. I won't hold my breath.
@stuartwebster5821
@stuartwebster5821 День назад
The Christian hope is the resurrection when Jesus returns and the kingdom of God on earth. The bible does not promise living in heaven or going to hell.
@OpenMind4U2C
@OpenMind4U2C 2 дня назад
Did God decide to create humans (knitting them together in their mothers womb)knowing that some of them wouldn't believe that a man rose from the dead thousands of years before they were born. He could have just made the ones that would believe.
@PointingtoJesusChrist
@PointingtoJesusChrist 2 дня назад
No one goes to heaven and hell when we die. All remain in the grave till Jesus comes in His glory. And hell is not an eternal burning fire. Revelation makes it clear that God will rain a brim of fire to destroy Satan and his angels and all whose names were not found in the Lamb's Book of Life. The burning will be for a time and will cleanse and purify the old earth to a new one which will be occupied by the redeemed.
@goblintown
@goblintown 2 дня назад
Agreed but how does this comport with the Lake of Fire being called the second death?
@morriswambugu8292
@morriswambugu8292 2 дня назад
The truths most plainly revealed in the Bible have been involved in doubt and darkness by learned men,with pretence of great wisdom teach that scriptures have a mystical,a secret,spiritual meaning not apparent in the language employed in the Bible. 🇰🇪
@simonskinner1450
@simonskinner1450 2 дня назад
God is available to those that seek him, not everyone has sinned, and they have been denied eternal life by Adam, so they can claim their just rewards if they have faith in Christ.
@keelyemerine-mix1051
@keelyemerine-mix1051 День назад
Friend, all have sinned, all, and we all have fallen short of the glory of God
@simonskinner1450
@simonskinner1450 День назад
@@keelyemerine-mix1051 Do you know the meaning of Romans 3:23? Let me enlighten you. "All" in the Greek is "pas" which is a total incremental in the context, the context is Romans 3:20, about the defining of a sinner. Romans 3:23 is better expressed as "For all that have sinned", as not everyone has sinned which Paul mentions twice in Romans. I have a Ytube video 'Original sin? No. #21 Myths in so-called Christianity', and that point is covered. Christianity only reflects the NT in that it is the false teaching that was warned of by Paul, the subject of my #31 video.
@t.d6379
@t.d6379 11 часов назад
The most Anglican answer to the question of Hell 😂
@DIBBY40
@DIBBY40 День назад
The idea that God would send people to a terrible place because they are slaves, or sick, is a heinous idea. Jesus uses both metaphors to describe sinners. The point is, we are in a terrible place already and need rescuing, not condemning.
@javadhashtroudian5740
@javadhashtroudian5740 2 дня назад
My version of Pascal's wager. Either god exists or doesn't. Assume God exists and is good, all go to heaven. If god does not exist sleep for eternity. So the honest answer is not to believe and be honest to reality (science).
@gideonopyotuadebo2304
@gideonopyotuadebo2304 День назад
BASELESS QUESTION.ANTISCRIPTURAL QUESTION YEHOVAH THE GOOD GOD AND DOER OF GOOD DOES NOT DWELL IN HELL SO HOW CAN HE SEND GOOD PEOPLE TO HELL?
@BrysonCole-rl2rj
@BrysonCole-rl2rj 2 часа назад
Your caps lock is stuck on.
@karl5395
@karl5395 2 дня назад
Unfortunately yet more british theologian waffle opinion without clearly answering the question from the The Word... For example, would have liked to have heard a clear exegetical explainaton of Jesus' assertion : Matthew 25:46 ESV - And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
@johnhammond6423
@johnhammond6423 2 дня назад
Not all of us British are as silly as these theologians.
@bbfire29
@bbfire29 2 дня назад
Am not a believer, but if you are interested in what the typical response to this is it's usually along the lines of "punishment" here being a word that connotes condemnation and deprivation and can either be taken to mean I) unconscious (annihilationism) ii) conscious (traditional "hell") or iii) reversible (various kinds of universalism). "Eternal" here meaning something more like "the constant state of affairs unless something changes" rather than "unchangeable state of affairs".
@tobyroy336
@tobyroy336 2 дня назад
Aren't you asserting that "eternal punishment" is hell? And why is it "waffle"? Doesn't God gift us each with discernment?
@JimKanaris
@JimKanaris 2 дня назад
To answer this it would be important to get some understanding regarding the term "eternal" (aionion in Greek). In the ancient world it doesn't amount to what is often assumed in the English-speaking world. Also, one must get it out of their heads that universalists don't believe in hell or "stations" of post-mortem suffering, if you like, which can last a really long "time". That's simply not true. The caricatures here can be very misleading.
@Athabrose
@Athabrose 2 дня назад
You need to read beyond a modern English translation with heavy theological import. The modern view of hell has to be imported into that scripture to make it work.
@adamgilbert8383
@adamgilbert8383 9 часов назад
This is why I cannot stand NT Wright. He doesn’t answer questions. He tap dances around them to avoid being unpopular. He is a coward.
@sdb6757
@sdb6757 День назад
If my child rejected me, hated me, even tried to kill me, I would punish them but never ever torture him or her in fire for all eternity. The medieval idea of hell is absurd. This is a god claiming to be loving and forgiving, but is a cruel being not worthy of my worship. I am more loving and forgiving than this god.
@billwalton4571
@billwalton4571 День назад
You cant have a God without a deterrent, people just become emboldened to do wrong.
@andrewsamoah5165
@andrewsamoah5165 День назад
I think such simple analogy ignores the fact that humans are not at par with God and punishment can be in many different way. Some parents reject their stubborn kids and cut them off, some parents will give their children up when they commit heinous crime, so your analogy is not entirely correct. We have the cannanites burning their own children what happened?
@DIBBY40
@DIBBY40 День назад
Andrew, the point SBD is making is that God is so far beyond us in goodness and love. Surely it would mean that human parenting at it's best wouldn't be better than what God is capable of?
@majose7787
@majose7787 День назад
You're ignoring the fact that a perfectly loving God needs to be perfectly just. You can't have love without justice. Apathy towards evil is evil in and of itself. Hell always feels "horrible" or unloving to people who have a weak understanding of love.
@sdb6757
@sdb6757 День назад
@@majose7787 torturing a person in fire for eternity that you created sinful in the first place is not justice, it’s insanity.
@DerekHowden
@DerekHowden День назад
Faith in the Bible is not faith in God as it creates an image of God within your mind and heart and an image of God is not God even if it were in the highest resolution, which the Bible is most certainly not, it will never be God. Jesus came to the people who were already living in hell and showed them the way out of their darkness we now call depression. He showed that God was within and that if you are willing to give up your life including all your preconceptions, wants and judgement of other people in an honest act of surrender and wait and do nothing but wait and do not give up, sitting with your old life just wanting it to go away. Wait in faith that within you is God that you can not see nor imagine where it is but seek and ask and out of the blue when you least expect it your darkness and depression will fall away and Love, Joy and peace will flow into your life. Nobody know's the hour or the day it comes but when it does you will see a new heaven and a new life.
@rodmitchell8576
@rodmitchell8576 День назад
Wright is getting worse and worse theologically. Hell is clearly taught by Jesus.
@El_Paracleto
@El_Paracleto 4 часа назад
John 5:29 +++
@svenskbibel
@svenskbibel День назад
This was a mixture of truth and lies. But it is sadly obvious that he deviates from classical Christian beliefs when it comes to hell. And he often mentions Plato, and that is often a warning bell that you are on the wrong track when it comes to hell. He also talks fast, so it's not easy for everyone to catch all his weirdness. Thumbs down.
@cesarpintes3213
@cesarpintes3213 13 часов назад
@according to Jesus no one is good
@revbillwalker
@revbillwalker День назад
N.T Wrong...
@simonskinner1450
@simonskinner1450 2 дня назад
I am a Praeterist and Hell has been destroyed in the lake of fire, Johns gospel was written after AD70 and is witness to the new covenant, everyone must perish in the grave except those that are baptised with the Spirit for their soul to go to heaven as 1 Corinthians 15, that those that remain in Christ else they are back in Adam and perish with the remainder. It is Futurism that developed from the 2nd century onwards that Hell remains, it does not as Revelation predicted for AD70, and was confirmed in Johns gospel. There are many false teachings in Christianity, and why I have a Ytube video series 'Myths in so-called Christianity' for NT truth, it is for those who do want to go to heaven to watch my videos.
@IamGrimalkin
@IamGrimalkin 2 дня назад
Tom is a preterist but not a full one. What do you think of a *partial* preterism that says that *some* of the future predictions came with the destruction of the temple, but neverthless Jesus is still coming back to judge the world?
@simonskinner1450
@simonskinner1450 2 дня назад
@@IamGrimalkin Not true to the NT. Tom is partially everything, but fully nothing. Not completely his fault, but I tried a few years ago to help him by email with Justification, and all he could say was to buy his book. I did and he admitted one day he would like to find out about Justification, well the answer is in my Ytube video series 'Myths in so-called Christianity'. If Tom knew the proper reading of Romans he would know Justification, and if he read John's gospel properly he would know it is witness to the Messiah, and all things fulfilled.
@markmarais4554
@markmarais4554 2 дня назад
How sad that answers couldn't be provided plainly. Since Hell is real, love is warning people of this fact. Those in the burning building might not like the warning, but it would be unloving to remain silent or question if there is a fire.
@polarisnorth4875
@polarisnorth4875 2 дня назад
Name 1 piece of evidence for hell then we'll talk 😊
@cre8509
@cre8509 2 дня назад
Jesus mentioned it clearly.
@iks9120
@iks9120 2 дня назад
​@@cre8509Buddha wouldn't agree. If we talk about Islam..Muslim heaven looks very different from Christian heaven. Also, thousands of other gods (who are all very real to some other cultures) wouldn't agree with any. A big mess mate!
@jrw585jxc
@jrw585jxc 2 дня назад
Ugh shut up. Stupid argument. Stop asking for implicit physical evidence for philosophical questions. Try a little bit.
@jrw585jxc
@jrw585jxc 2 дня назад
@@iks9120actually Buddha would likely agree with Jesus’ inherent messages. I imagine Buddha would undoubtedly reject interpretation of Jesus as it is seen today.
@iks9120
@iks9120 2 дня назад
@@jrw585jxc Agreeing with messages or with philosophy of religion is not a synonym for believing that the religion is true. I do agree with Christian values, but I don't believe that they came from Christian or any god. I do believe that it is good to do good, but I don't believe that heaven exists. Same goes for Buddha and Jesus.
@2fox4jesusfox84
@2fox4jesusfox84 2 дня назад
I listened for a bit and got the heck away from this video. There is nothing but confusion and doubt that will come from listening to this. Instead, read what Jesus says about hell, which is very clear.
@katiecugini979
@katiecugini979 2 дня назад
the Hebrew and Greek words Sheol, Hades, Gehenna, and Tartarus are often translated as "hell" in English translations of the Bible. However, these translations don't capture the true meaning of the words. So we read the word hell and assume that is what it is talking about and many times it is not speaking of the period after the final judgement
@georgekrats2573
@georgekrats2573 2 дня назад
Catholicism is a works based false religion.. you are saved by grace thru faith.
@amoy3508
@amoy3508 День назад
Faith without works is dead from the book of James.
@georgekrats2573
@georgekrats2573 День назад
@@amoy3508 that verse has nothing to do with salvation
@georgekrats2573
@georgekrats2573 День назад
@@amoy3508 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: - Eph 2:8 KJV Not of works, lest any man should boast. - Eph 2:9 KJV
@amoy3508
@amoy3508 День назад
@@georgekrats2573 You have to read the NT in its entirety. It all applies.
@amoy3508
@amoy3508 День назад
@@georgekrats2573 You still have to serve God by works. Build up your crown.
@arewakowako9024
@arewakowako9024 2 дня назад
Your explanation about heaven and hell is rather convoluted and anti-Bible. Jesus talked about hell more than he did about heaven. Ambigous, heretical and very disappointing. Taking from both sides but not committed to either heaven or hell. Very sad.
@Athabrose
@Athabrose 2 дня назад
Yea the ol Jesus talked about hell more than heaven trope. That’s simply not true. Jesus definitely talked about Gehenna and sheol that are mistranslated into hell. Also, you have to import your modern view of hell into the text to make it work which is incorrect. If you want to be biblical you may want to look into what Jesus actually said and meant within a deeper reading beyond the English translation.
@byrondickens
@byrondickens 2 дня назад
What's sad is that you are completely blinded by your own dogmas pounded into your head by people with no reading comprehension skills.
@apotropoxyz6685
@apotropoxyz6685 День назад
The Christian creator-god is deeply evil. It created the human soul, a set of rules applying to human thoughts and behaviors, and sends some of them to an eternity of torture for having used their free will. And who created free will and installed it into humans? The creator god. And did this creator god know ahead of time that some of these souls would be tortured for all eternity? Yes. And while alive, does this god demands his followers be grateful to it and love it unconditionally? Yes, again. Is there another top-pantheon god in any other religion who is even remotely close to the Yahweh’s odium? No. Here’s the good news. Yahweh, and all the other gods, do not exist. We imagined them into existence, and we can think them away.
@TedSalt
@TedSalt 3 часа назад
I'm sorry. What happens after death? Nothing. This is all there is. Jesus was a failed apocalyptic prophet. Jesus and Paul expected the kingdom in their lifetime. They were wrong.
@SpareHeadOne-o2r
@SpareHeadOne-o2r День назад
All People Will Repent But Some Will Repent When Under The Earth Revelation 5 13 And I heard every created thing which is in heaven, or on the earth, or under the earth, or on the sea, and all the things in them, saying, “To Him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be the blessing, the honor, the glory, and the dominion forever and ever.” 14 And the four living creatures were saying, “Amen.” And the elders fell down and worshiped. Psalm 22 29 All the fattened ones of the earth will eat and worship, All those who go down to the dust will kneel before Him, Even he who cannot keep his soul alive. Philippians 2 10 at the name of Jesus every knee will bow, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. 1 Corinthians 12 3 No one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit. John 4:24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” Luke 12:8 “Now I say to you, everyone who confesses Me before people, the Son of Man will also confess him before the angels of God Romans 10:9-10 if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation 1 John 2:23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.
@christiansmakingmusic777
@christiansmakingmusic777 День назад
Another intellectual deconstructive his own soul on camera. Jesus dais, “do not fear men who can only kill the body and afterward can do nothing to you, rather fear God, who having killed you can torment both body and soul in hell.”
@JonathanCLacy
@JonathanCLacy День назад
Naaaa this ain't it. Repent and turn to Jesus or you will be judged at the resurrection.
@carlharmeling512
@carlharmeling512 16 часов назад
Hell is where sin is burned away and the soul of man is set free.
@peterkerruish8136
@peterkerruish8136 2 дня назад
I had ticked Like but at the 20minute mark your guest started ranting on about the eucharist, breaking of bread Rubbish - It was then your soft spoken guest revealed himself as a Nutcase!.
@peterkerruish8136
@peterkerruish8136 2 дня назад
And then I ticked the other.
@keelyemerine-mix1051
@keelyemerine-mix1051 День назад
You might want to consider that whether you agree with him or not, NT Wright is considered one of the most foremost Christian biblical Scholars of our day and most surely has earned the respect you deny him. You might want to rethink the attitude, because millions have been edified and brought closer to Christ through his work.
@grumylynn
@grumylynn 2 дня назад
There is no heaven or hell.
@fransclements5879
@fransclements5879 2 дня назад
How do you know
@MrKeen445
@MrKeen445 2 дня назад
​@fransclements5879 cuz no evidence.... womp womp
@romanumeralz
@romanumeralz 2 дня назад
Errrgh❗️ WRONG‼️
@cre8509
@cre8509 2 дня назад
You’re going to find out otherwise. Please open your heart to the Creator. ❤
@gerry343
@gerry343 2 дня назад
I tend to agree with you, but we have absolutely no proof either way.
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