What Happens If Man City Get Relegated?

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Manchester City is potentially in relegation-level trouble because of their flagrant breaches of FFP rules, so I wanted to see what that might look like. Huge surprise: it doesn’t end up as bad as some might think. The long contracts for star players and ability to compete in a variety of cup competitions seem to keep Manchester City in tact enough to start launching itself back up the leagues.
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@VillaFanDan92 Год назад

IRL I can't imagine Haaland being like "Yeah, I'll forgo four years of my career to help you get back into the Premier League".

@michaelmamic3686 Год назад

Good thing it won’t happen

@jokafoxy6516 Год назад

@@Asnowny it wont theyll get some points taken away so they cant win the league for a year or 2

@jokafoxy6516 Год назад

@@Asnowny they just wont though....

@jokafoxy6516 Год назад

@@Asnowny Juventus werent relegated for literal match fixing.... im a United fan, i hope they get dissolved as a club, but the FA are pussies theyll give them a slap on the wrist as usual....

@louquole Год назад

Or any of the other players

@jamie7323 Год назад

when people did experiments like this in previous versions of the game i think the problem was that since the team just gets instantly moved down they have the same reputation that they had before so they find it far easier to keep and sign high reputation players than they would in real life

@llSuperSnivyll Год назад

Yeah, I think the 'best' way to simulate it is to put them one division above the intended starting point and give them enough of a points deduction that they will never be able to escape relegation no matter what. Then the players get unhappy, Manchester City's reputation drops... and you have a more plausible scenario. UPDATE: I made an Editor File that puts Manchester City on League Two with a 120 point deduction (two 60 point deductions). They were relegated before December and, after end of season, their first team was almost completely dismantled and its reputation crashed down to 1 star. Only Ederson, Walker, Phillips (all three unhappy), Mahrez, Palmer and Gómez remain. The rest is youngsters or low-profile signings.

@thehildabeast100 Год назад

yeah so like real life

@BlueWoWTaylan Год назад

Wouldn't City have to literally get rid of many of its players to even be fit into the salary rules of League 2 and so on? There is no way Haaland and so on would stay for 3 years at least or accept a 'league 2' wage limit.

@MrJorge3010 Год назад

It's based on revenue, so as long as they keep getting a bunch of money they can spend a bunch of money

@StewartEvans52 Год назад

@@MrJorge3010 They struggle to fill the etihad whilst in the prem,how the heck are they going to fill it in lower leagues?,and if the owners go with "sponsers" then they will be in breach of the rules that got them there in the first place lol

@idantiroche7312 Год назад

They probably would get a pass for that, its not like they can just stop paying the players. If it was irl i believe they would allow them to do that as long as they are on their existing contract, with no contact extensions and definitely no raises. Probably new signings would be problematic

@kimura2176 Год назад

@@idantiroche7312 realistically, they could just add clauses to set their salary at x if they get in a higher league, there are a lot of work around, it justs really how many players are loyal to man city in the end and how many trust man city enough to get into prem fast enough to not get their career stagnated if they sign for them

@alexfielding7191 Год назад

@@MrJorge3010 City wouldn't have the Revenue due to not filling their stadium and no TV money or Prem money

@JoshuaHere Год назад

Realistically they would lose reputation and thus some of their players. Haaland wouldn't stay to play in League Two, doesn't matter how much they pay. Some players will stay, but anyone who wants to be taken serious is going to move to a team who is playing at the highest level.

@gandalf_thegrey Год назад

"anyone who wants to be taken serious is going to move to a team who is playing at the highest level" Untrue. Case in Point: Juventus Turin. Especially: Buffon and his italian NT teammates.

@letniakuchnia6065 Год назад

Juventus have just been in serie b

@dimikdimik918 Год назад

@@gandalf_thegrey Serie B >>>> League 2

@RexOedipus. Год назад

@@gandalf_thegrey really easy to go "we'll back back in ucl inn2 seasons" really hard to tell them "give us 4 years to get back to ucl"

@JoshuaHere Год назад

@@gandalf_thegrey One tier versus three tiers is a big difference. Buffon felt he owed it to Juventus after winning the treble. But I wonder how much players feel they owe to throw away three years of their career for never winning a European trophy with City. Not to forget a ton of players did leave Juventus. Zlatan, Emerson, Zambrotta, Viera, Mutu, Cannavaro, Thuram and Bentivoglio all left. That will be more for City.

@ajprop99 Год назад

I think this does show the limits of fm in terms of player ambition here as whilst some players would stay and promotion would absolutely be guaranteed for all 3 seasons, 3 years is a long time for players at their peak or tail end of their career and they would leave immediately

@Avioto Год назад

Not to mention the investors who I assume would rather invest in a Premier League club.

@robreid8577 Год назад

I guess there is a scenario where they'd loan out their top players to some European heavyweights on 2 year loans, by which time (assuming back to back promotions) they'd be into the Championship by the time they're back and either send them out on loan for another year or have them play to guarantee a return to the Prem. Have a sneaking suspicion there are rules on the number of players you can loan out in any one season though (thanks to the Chelsea loan army lol) which might scupper how many top players they could actually loan out like this.

@n1troni Год назад

@@robreid8577 well they could sell them to their feeder clubs. If im not wrong they have new york, melbourne, yokohama,girona, lommel sk. ANd just buy them back in 2-3 years

@Leosch633 Год назад

You should have decreased their reputation and probably given them some fines (By giving them a negative bank accounts). That would have been more realistic. This way they would have been forced to sell their top players and those players would have also wanted to leave (because of lower reputation). But still it was a fun video.

@bundesautobahn7 Год назад

Something similar happened with Rangers FC in Scotland, but for different reasons. Their parent company entered administration and liquidated, they were forced relegated to the fourth tier of Scottish football leagues (aka the Third Division) for the 2012/13 season, but made it back to the Scottish Premier League by the end of the 2015/16 season. But unlike your scenario with Man City, it took them until 2021 to win the SPL again.

@doublejumpvideogames.... Год назад

Dead club

@callumstephens2879 Год назад

I think one thing that FM won’t account for other than Haaland not hanging around is players like De Bruyne and many many other City players who are at the stage of their career where they can’t afford 3 years of lower league football just to get back in the prem and will most likely want a move away in order to make use of those dwindling years they have in their careers

@KDFilms99 Год назад

I think a better experiment is you drop them to the National Conference outside of the pyramid and sell off all the senior players and only leave u21 and under. Still a good thought experiment and good video as always.

@agroyav Год назад

Everyone knows deep down, that man city will probably escape any punishment. Or maybe the least damaging punishment. Lets move on from this topic.

@Woudo010 Год назад

Not really realistic this simulation as City wouldnt be able to spend that kind of money irl.

@minichalvo9818 Год назад

cause of FFP yea

@tombardsley3081 Год назад

They would since they make more money than all of those league 2 clubs even with removing the oil backing

@UltrasGaming90 Год назад

I know this was for the news happening but I’d love to see Zealand do this to all the leagues with dominating teams

@thenorseguy2495 Год назад

I’m sure Man City will be back in a few years if they get relegated. But I can’t imagine all the stars to stay

@minichalvo9818 Год назад

They got to compete in the most important of all: Papa John's Pizza Hut Dominoes Trophy What an honour

@thegreathadoken6808 Год назад

It's a big joke until your team somehow manages to get to the final even though they played nothing but squad players and youth prospects, and now you have a Wembley day out. Then you take it serious.

@minichalvo9818 Год назад

@@thegreathadoken6808 exactly whenever i am managing a team in league 1 or league 2 i always play my backups and somehow make a deep run

@NJTRAF Год назад

IRL if this happened (it won’t) then City would sell all the star players, of course, but they have a ton of young players they might be able to keep hold of by offering guaranteed game time like Rico Lewis, Cole Palmer, Harwood-Bellis, Liam Delap, Zak Steffen, Tommy Doyle & Luke Mbete, plus by selling those big name players they’d have resources available to them to bring in players (if no transfer ban)

@bigbadge12 Год назад

loving your dedication to the forward madison jersey!! make sure you scan the QR code during the season and buy somebody a beer!

@macario8836 Год назад

Signed Olivier Boscagli in my FM20 save when I still was in Portuguese 2nd tier. Got promoted in that season and Boscagli proceeded to be A BEAST in those 2 PT Tiers! Also, pretty sure TomFM would NOT love to see it (as he always says) Lincoln City get rekt by ManCity in that 1st season's cup...

@chrisneale1599 Год назад

the time machine animation sketch was the best thing I have ever seen! Ever... Like in my entire life!

@matthewmason8982 Год назад

I’ve been waiting for someone to do this. Shame all the players didn’t jump ship like would happen in real life. Is it possible to make all the players hate City so that they all leave and the hierarchy *have* to make some clever buys and replace Pep?

@finnsaunders4789 Год назад

Aren't there talks of a 5-year transfer ban? You should have implemented that as well.

@casteri Год назад

Tom Leggosaurus once again providing a masterpiece of an animation

@jameshoward-white2288 Год назад

Nathan Young-Coombes was the highest scorer in League 1 for my Wrexham team. He's a great loanee for lower league teams.

@TheRainbowThief 10 дней назад

Realise this is an old video and nobody else will care. But much respect for being the first time I've heard an American pronounce Yeovil correctly.

@benthorpe178 Год назад

That guy that scored for notts county is on 30 goals this season, he scored a hattrick yesterday and is currently out scoring haaland, I should know, I’m a season ticket holder at notts county, you’ll probably know the team were fighting with at the top of the national league, Wrexham🤣

@memestagram4028 Год назад

Even when Man City relegated, Bernardo Silva still can't leave.

@Tomrey8 Год назад

Hey Zealand! Would love to get some tips on Training Units for developing youngsters. Unable to find a clear answer and been looking all night! Thank you wise guru

@natetay2142 Год назад

Keep up the great content

@McCully96 Год назад

You know Zealand's a real one when he says premier league instead of premeer league

@adamaviation6236 Год назад

This is what exposure does to people as an American living in Asia when I go back home people always point out how I say premier haha

@samitdavid995 Год назад

I don’t think loyalty exists in football anymore

@dancrew6721 Год назад

Yeah, these are the situations where FM is not very realistic... that whole team would be gone in the first 18 months.

@wownaldal Год назад

Zealand when is the network save coming??

@davidpark8643 Год назад

I created a DB recently which moved the Old Firm to League 2. Surprisingly Notts County took points off both of them too...whilst also being bottom of the league 🤷

@jonpaul3868 Год назад

Man, that new money is the new threat in the up coming years in EPL

@owensheach5181 Год назад

This happened to rangers irl and same happened they got back to back promotions to the championship took them a couple of seasons to get out of there and now there back playing in the champions league

@Gia1911Logous Год назад

The first season in the prem is basically what if gundogan didn't score that goal

@rujveld7881 Год назад

I dont know if its been mentioned but if they get relegated from the Prem then the Football League has already said that they will not be admitted to the League, which means Man City would have to drop out of the leagues to the National League. even though i think they will more then likely just get a point deductions.

@prof.seismitoad3384 Год назад

Should have used the editor to put everyone's moral at basically none unless the player came from the youth team

@tylerdavis716 Год назад

2:45 Barfie would be proud

@eddsirr Год назад

They’d struggle in L1 winning all them games with fatigue - they’d have players away on international breaks and so games postponed, Europa league match days are often on EFL midweek games too. When would they play all these games?!?!

@GIBBO4182 Год назад

Q. What happens if Man City get relegated A. They’ll get promoted

@youtubeperson3111 Год назад

End of video

@GIBBO4182 Год назад

@@youtubeperson3111 😂😂😂

@nigelduckworth4419 Год назад

I don't think relegation is an issue. The vast majority of the Premier league charges are relatively minor matters. For instance, the remuneration of Mancini or that of Toure. If the thrust of the allegations is that City were able to spend far more money than they earned and therefore built the team unlawfully, then that aspect of the case has already been the subject of the CAS judgement when of course they were acquitted, 2012 excepted. So we are actually talking about very little money in the context of their total spend on players of one billion pounds. In other words, the money not declared has given them little monetary advantage.

@TheRadPlayer Год назад

Should have gone into the pre-game editor to change the ownership type away from Foreground.

@FakhruddinS Год назад

If this does happen, does that mean 4 teams go up?

@dylanward1597 Год назад

it took me 5 days to finally understand the new champions league format

@danielfersbeanto7942 Год назад

Help me I am still looking how to set pick guidelines so my U23 and U18 managers rotating the players prioritizing the one that low in match sharpness. Help

@augustonembungu6721 Год назад

He's wearing a Forward Madison FC shirt😭

@TheBenkic1991 Год назад

what suplements do you use for chest hair?

@callumstephens2879 Год назад

The fact UEFA are getting away with these awful changes and no one is stopping them despite their lies and inconsistencies is honestly so sad

@DarthQueefious Год назад

I need that Papa John's Treble

@GarkKahn Год назад

Truth be told man city has this problem almost every year And every time the result is the same, we still have them on premier and champions like nothing happened

@ManLikeBredz Год назад

I know this isn't related to the video, but I'm new to football manager and I'm pretty confused on how to handle the game, I'm in season 1 as Brentford and we had a pretty strong start but now we have gone 7 games only scoring a point, any help would be amazing.

@piersonjamesa Год назад

see the fm subreddit or the fm forums, you can find a ton of info there,

@therealbando Год назад

Is it worth getting FM23 right now?

@rostermaan1321 Год назад

yes

@riswandhamaulana9690 Год назад

Zealand... i have question... why gk who plays against my team always get high rating almost 7.5 everygame... ??

@Dante-mr3rz Год назад

Haaland being loyal? Highly unlikely.

@LordWay Год назад

Sam Gallagher was in my sister's year at secondary school.

@alexfielding7191 Год назад

The funny thing is that none of the players that stayed in the sim would actually stay if City were relegated to the Championship let alone League 2. Should do this again but strip them of the likes of Haaland, Mahrez, Silva, Rodri, Ederson, Gundogan and Grealish at the very least.

@paul_md9785 Год назад

Guys... I cried in FM23. I am playing on PS5. I started my carreer as Bayern Coach. They are my Favorite Club. I bought Bellingham, Havertz, great Talents and won the Leauge every year with ease. But until 2026, I have never won the Championsleague. It wasnt even close once! So I left them. 6 months Later, I Signed for Hertha Bsc. A Club I like. In my first year I made really really good lones and free transfers. So we won the conference Leauge. I Finished 5. 1 point Behind? You guessed it.. Bayern! The next year I made more transfers. Ran through Group stage of Europa leauge. And we were always on the step to first place. We did not win 2 of Our last 4 games. So the very secure champions Leauge Spot was in huge danger. Leipzig and Dortmund had to play against bottom teams. And me?? Bayern hahaha. Who had won the Leauge already. So Leipzig and Dortmund win with ease. Until the 70th Minute it was still 0-0. When Nicolas Gonzales(goat) came and scored!! In the 74th Minute. And I prayed to god. And we had done it. We could have lost everything but got everything. I cried because I was so proud. Yes I am german. Sorry for this English language Love you guys

@lilbaz8073 Год назад

Thing is if they lose the case they will probably be forced to lose their sponsors. So will have to find new ones in league 2.

@Chubby126 Год назад

Salford vs city can’t wait

@bdelsouza Год назад

the thing is: none of those players would stay to play league 2. none of them. not even the subs.

@piekielnieszczerypodcast3828 Год назад

This just shows FM is not realistic with those things at all. Young players would want out immidiately if City got relegated not to waste 4 years of their careers so players like Foden, Haaland, Akanji, Ederson, Lewis, Ake, Rodri, Alvarez, even Bernardo would all be gone the first chance they get not to mention Pep who's already hinting at leaving at the end of his current deal so the club would be in shreds with no pulling power aside from the obscene amounts of money and the Football League squad limitations in play. They would never go back up in 4 years winning a ton of silverware along the way and that's the beauty of it.

@jamgooandyou Год назад

They wouldn't get relegated, PL will only void Man Citys result at the end of the season and a huge fine, possibly the biggest in history... £200+ million I would think.

@bricekimball5206 Год назад

Umm, everyone one of their big name players would leave in the summer if they went to league 2. This is stupid.

@dodgydpad Год назад

Zealand this wouldnt be how it happens. There is a wage cap in League 2 and 1. Also these leagues have to accept them into there league, which wont happen. If they get relegated, they will be going down to the Vanarama, and its pretty much a given that they will have a transfer embargo. Probably 2-3 years.

@mumblingmercian3386 Год назад

Lets be frank, if this happens the Sheik will leave. All the money will be gone. Of course with their facilities in place they’ll probably make it back to the PL eventually.

@grobariza Год назад

i still think if they go down theyll join Ligue 1 and PSG dominance

@user-ro8sr9bu6m 6 месяцев назад

This video is now popular😂

@Liristis007 Год назад

Cmon Bristol! You could've won that game!

@blackfalcon1324 Год назад

The real question is if they impose a transfer embargo.

@yvesnelissen6374 Год назад

What happens is a great fm save so let’s go 😂

@chriscaporali6535 Год назад

I have my save for FM24….saving Man City…that would be a fun save…..Issa nissa

@H4RVE7 Год назад

Imagine the tv rights money pouring into the English lower leagues if the happen in real life

@iambicpentakill971 Год назад

I guess, but boy are those going to be boring games.

@gandalf_thegrey Год назад

Haaland: *"should have signed for Real..."* *sad face*

@GFSagredo Год назад

Only in Italy they have the balls to relegate teams for wrongdoings. Nothing will happen. In Spain they even caught Barça paying the refs; all already forgotten, nobody speaks about it. PSG is essentially backed by the French govt. and they can doctor the books as much as they want. Shameful.

@dominik-- Год назад

i wish people would do those scenarios on real sim not "fast" one.

@julianandrefredriksen5848 Год назад

I saw liverpool and arsenal get double relegated in my noleague to prem with kettering

@jacobdaboss8413 10 месяцев назад

What a coincidence. Just the other day I told my friend that I thought Man City should be relegated far enough down the divisions that the players would consider to leave thus scatter the team that City cheated their way to so much silverware with. Personally I think it's the only way for them to serve their crimes and it should also deter others from trying to imitate He didn't understand though. 😅

@Patrick61804 Год назад

I thought winning the league cup got you into the conference league

@Beastmode_Jr. Год назад

Do a quick video where you put Christian Atsu into the ManCity Squad and let him win the Premier League and donate all of the money the video makes towards Türkiye to raise awareness

@Murphinator-gx5on Год назад

Why were Notts County and Wrexham in L2?

@themilkywayuniverse6962 Год назад

9:44 Pretty much all of the Americas 😂😂😂

@grokopf142 Год назад

Man City u21s beat us in the papa johns this season already so the full team would've been something lmao

@tidyyy Год назад

you know fm can't handle things like this happening 😂 it's too static, the players aren't staying to play league 2 irl. kdb is like 30, he ain't rounding off his career by winning league 2... I actually made a better database on fm20 where city were relegated to the national league with 90% of their players manually moved on appropriately and FC United took their place in the prem. fun playing either, but it's still a procession for city to waltz up the leagues

@Snookbone Год назад

League Two is not the bottom of the English pyramid.

@danielbacon5135 Год назад

Did you make sure to remove pep as manager as he would leave if they were cheating

@SpaceExplorer Год назад

Papa Johns Trophy for you

@doublejumpvideogames.... Год назад

Be like returning home

@kieronparr3403 Год назад

The bottom of the pyramid is league 10. That's the bottom of the EFL

@danmcdivitt Год назад

FA cup and Papa John's don't have groups

@DarthQueefious Год назад

I'm a City fan and part of me would love to be booted out. Players would leave, of course, but we'd be back in 3 years and will have had one hell of a laugh along the way

@EdeniosOnline Год назад

2 other guys?!?! You don't know who matias zaracho is??? He was a fantastic cheap signing on fm 21!

@JacobHeldt Год назад

answer: they play The Championship next season ! - next tonic ;)

@itslydiabxtch Год назад

Funny how they lost to Notts County in the sim when they drew against Forest IRL

@Aboleom Год назад

This won't happen though, if they are relegated, there's no way they can pay the salaries of their players etc, so most will leave. They won't have nearly as easy of a time as you picture in the beginning here, at least not if they're actually following the rules this time :D Most players will leave, if nothing else to be able to play Champions League and high tier football, they won't be satisfied with helping a cheating club going back up, it will be like it was with Juventus, a few loyal players might stay, but most will leave

@aakarmamtora3470 Год назад

Real life isn't FM so let's hope they suffer the consequences IF they're guilty and rot.

@Deehydrate Год назад

Did you seriously just call 31 tear old Stefan Ortega young?

@victorkreig6089 Год назад

There is no way they go undefeated in League 1 that's just not happening Also there is no way in hell Pep would stay as he's a checkbook baby who can't manage at a club that isn't already at the top Also there is no way United would ever drop all the way to 9th, no amount of wishful thinking would ever see them go that far again