What happens if Steven Seagal fought Van Damme? / Michael Jai White thoughts on Seagal and Van Damme 

'No one ever wins a fight' -Dalton

Stallone's account of this fight is on RU-vid. Stallone said Van Damme was 'too strong' for Seagal.

Viking samurai can't handle anything derogatory said about Steven seagal. 😂😂😂😂

Seagal fans are missing the important part of the story. Seagal ducked him. He carefully avoided the confrontation with JCVD. In other words, he chickened out.

In their prime I think Van Damme will win I'm a fan of both of them Steven seagal is a great martial artist but I think Van Damme will win and plus Van Damme is still training and he still in good shape

Van Damme was training under Chuck Norris for a bit. So that's all i need to know. Van Damme would win.

I believe JCVD would win in the ring and street.

Arguably, sparring is the highest form of training as it teaches numerous skills. Has Seagal ever legitimately sparred someone that wasn’t during an Aikido demonstration? I think that’s the point White was trying to make.

Michael Jai White at least admits Van Damme is a martial artist 😂

I'm sorry 😂 you lost me with Seagal beating Van Damme in a street fight.

Props to White for wearing a Sho Nuff shirt!

Van damme would win easily. Hes not just going to fall down when segal touches him like happens in segals demonstrations.

I couldn't care less who would win in a fight, I love both of them, legends

“Cmon! DJ Vlad is not kicking anyone’s 🫏” 😂

I saw the interview and Steven's response was that he thought the idea of a fight was silly, that he'd win too easily. Van Damme was just getting annoyed that Steven was continuously talking negatively about him. I would have loved to see them fight (as the style of characters that they portrayed), rather than a real fight.

Stallone did talk about it briefly. I don't underestimate anyone, but I think Van Damme would get Steven if they fought. We'll never know though.

I just want to clarify that that story came out way before The Expendables 2 did. So there was not any kind of interest from Stallones or Avi Lerners part to promote Van Damme over Seagal back then. In fact you have a 2008 video on a french tv show where Van Damme explains how it all happened.

I'd choose JVD in a street fight as well. His experience in real fights combined with his speed and athleticism I think would flat out over-come Seagal. (In their prime.) Van Damm's strength in the movie No Retreat No Surrender looked on another level. Now if you're talking about a "fight to the death" sort of street fight, that is a coin-toss. If you mean MMA, KO-street-fight, Muay Thai, etc. Van Damn wins easy!

I'd have to go with Van Damme, unless its a wrestling match or a knife fight.

Both are legends, great video assessment!

Steven Seagal is huge dude so he is not a guy to underestimate of course Van Damme will have to be fast and kick very hard. I'm on Van Damme site any way 💪

Van damn will win.

VAN DAMME 💯!!!!

I saw MJW "spar" Jon Jones. He has a high opinion of himself and he does stammer like a retired fighter but often he is delusional. It is nice to hear someone defend that lunatic Seagal.

I’m from west Africa and over the years I have noticed that most Hollywood actors or American doesn’t like Steven Seagal. Even though many people hate him in America but what they don’t is this, Steven is impacting his knowledge in the generations to come. Presently Seagal is still teaching and touching many lives. I’m not a Steven fan but what draw my attention is how many are criticizing him and saying all kinds of things about him.

Aikido literally requires an opponent to be compliant. I trained in Aikido for years and I had to ALLOW my sensei to complete techniques on me.

Chuck Norris say said about, Bruce Lee, " He has never fought professionally in a ring, I have many times; so that's all I am going to say about that; on the question, Who would win Him or I if We fought " !

I did see the interview with Stallone where he told the story about The challenge from Van Damme to Steven seagal and the story was synonymous with what Van Damme also said about the challenge. Van Damme challenged him and segal disappeared.

You're awesome Viking - but Van Damme drills Steven IMHO. You remember Sheldon Lettich (spelling?) was on your channel and thought something like "Van Damme would put him down pretty easily" and he had experience with both people. Van Damme was in competitions and sparred with world champions and Steven did demonstrations.

Michael is a lifelong Seagal fan and he's too afraid to admit it.

Why can't you get seagal for an interview and help him get back in shape so enough is enough . I dream for another seagal hit

Guys, Steven Seagal is in his early 70's, Jean Claude is in his early 60's. At this point who cares. Now, in 1989 or 90, 91 imo in a spur of the moment surprise Street fight, I think Seagal would win. In a point oriented Karate match or some kind of Kickboxing match maybe Van Damme. Seriously though, quite a few people said don't let Seagal get ahold of your wrist/hand, even Luke Rockhold, an actual ((fighter))

The thing is, Sensei Seagal considers himself a warrior. He just has that samurai mentality. That's old school and of course most of the "new kids" from the MMA gyms think it's ridiculous. But. The man doesn't have to prove himself. All these rumors about beef between movie stars just create more celebrity attention and video views. You have to remember - the man is always armed. Always! He's probably even wearing a bulletproof vest under his big shirt, a gun and maybe more. You shouldn't attack someone like that on principle. Or would you attack an ex-bodyguard, an ex-policeman or another close combat professional? His Aikido techniques are only part of the deadly fighting repertoire he has mastered. He has trained all his life, not to prove himself in an Octagon or on the mats. In real life, there are no referees or brave bystanders who can always save you. Like any professional with tactical close combat skills, he wants to end the fight as quickly as possible. Not fencing around, as in boxing, but incapacitating the opponent as quickly as possible. Every professional knows that the longer the fight lasts, the more things can go wrong. So why take the risk? And anyway, what would have happened if he had seriously injured JCVD in the bar? Maybe both movie careers would have ended immediately. The MMA pros can't just fight anyone on the street. After all, it's a career and a lot of money. MMA is also a kind of show business. Or do you have to solve every provocation immediately with violence? This isn't the schoolyard. So Seagal reacted sensibly and didn't take the situation seriously. If JCVD actually challenged him, then he was probably drunk and not so brave the next day. Or it's an age-old show business rumor trick. And don't forget that Seagal said in an interview that he'll take any challenge, but only if there's no money involved, no witnesses and no cameras. One on one, somewhere where you're alone. Why won't anyone join in? ...

Seagal actually did talk about it on an episode of Lawman, so it definitely happened

There’s a reason why MJW is a direct to DVD star 😂

I made a video on this topic and I love Segal and Van Damme but it actual fight Van Damme would win hands down.

Your Nuclear bomb analogy was perfect.

Respect the guy opinion. He’s clearly a Steven Seagull fan. 😂

What a decent Narrative with someone with an open mind that dictakes reality instead of the blind following the blind.

Put it this way... IF you talk negative about someone consistently as STEVEN SEAGAL did to Van Damme the 1st thing a REAL trash talker who is ACTUALLY a fighter would do is prove it... instead he acted as a humble fighter.... How can someone be both Humble and cocky at the same time... Truth is right there that he's mostly just talk and I love his old movies... none of his new ones because he becomes invincible and untouchable so there is really no action

I saw Stallone tell the story it’s real

There was documentary I watched years ago with seagal he was with his teacher and said they used to get challenged all the time in Japan

Put my money on Jean-Claude Van Damme

Viking samurai Personally i think van damme & segal both have great on-screen presence who cares who would win at the end of the day it was more about who was more popular at the time i couldent choose they both made some good movies in the 80s & 90s

Great video!! According to Michael, he is the only one that knows how to fight in Hollywood.

"Steven sagaul is like a nuclear bomb" and " It's better if he didn't fight anyone"? 😂 You were channeling Napoleon dynamite right there.

I love Michael Jai White but he does sometimes give contradicting statements especially related to JCVD and Seagal. We would never have the truth about which one of them will win in a fight but we will never stop discussing this topic even after they are gone. I think in the future, all action stars should have this in their contract when they are signing up in a hollywood action movie starring as a fighter / martial artist, that they will have to prove themselves in a couple of UFC matches. This could actually be beneficial for both the movies and the star, unless he / she loses. 😄

About the party at Stallones house where Van Damme challenged Seagal i had heard about it in the tabloids many years before there ever was an Expendable movie so its not a new story :) Also Stallone did an official Q&A on StalloneZone where he talked about the party and the Van Damme Vs Seagal thing. But i dont belive i have ever seen a clip interview where we hear Stallone talk about it?

David Carradine once fought a ROOSTER and got choked out, didn’t end well.😂😂😂😂 sorry I had to, rip D.C

I like your video and like seagal and van damme very much but I think you are giving seagal a little too much credit for his fighting ability because aikido doesn’t have competitions and we never saw him pressure test what he knows. Not that i don’t think that he could fight.

Personally I'm not a fighter per say , but I've been in street fights and you use whatever you have body wise to win , head, hands, legs and feet. So I would have to give the edge to Van Damme cause I've never seen Seagal ever use anything but his hands and that can only go for so long . But I guess we'll never really know .

People ignore the fact that Seagal also has a 4th Dan in Karate. If you combine karate and aikido you have a functional standup system. Add sone takedown defense and you're good against all but the most skilled grappler. And, Seagal is huge. Way bigger than the rest of these guys. I think JVCD has always been more fit and that matters in a fight, but there is a difference between thinking Seagal is an ass, and thinking he can't fight. One is an opinion, the other just ain't so.

Thats cool that Van Damme was sparring with him and Dae Han. Not too long ago Simon Rhee liked my comment on one of his posts. I quoted Dae Han i said "HOOSTON!". And he liked it 😁. That was cool.

I think Van Dam would have won if they had fought. Seagal im sure with his size, understanding, and practice of leverage and joint manipulation could hurt people.

There is something i dont undestand about MJV…if he is a black belt in kyokushin…then he must have competed in kyokushin tournaments to even get a black belt? And look at the latest sparring videos of Van Damme doing light sparring against mma fighter Cody Garbrandt…Van Damme has much better timing compared to MJV🤷‍♂️ And there is lots of photos and articles from Van Dammes fighting career, even one ore two photos from where he is knocked down in the ring… Where are the evidence from MJV fighting? There is only one video I could find from some point fight tournament in the late 80s or early 90s🤷‍♂️

Anymore insight into John Little? Did you talk to John Paul Daily yet? One of Tommy Carruthers instructors?

Hi Viking, where will I be able to watch The Last Kumite?

I’m not gonna say Seagal isn’t a martial artist because of his background in Japan. But against Van Damme in his prime I don’t think he stands a chance. Van Damme was the kick boxing champion of Belgium. At the end of the day the one with the most fighting skill has a much better chance of winning.

That was a diss bro, to say Vlad would beat Seagal is super disrespectful. I'm sure Aikdo isn't the only thing Steven knows, I wouldn't be shocked if he knew Jits or Judo as well. Imo JCVD would win based on the explosive kicks I've seen on screen and if he trains his hands, hed be a good kickboxer

I have a lot of experience training in different styles of both Karate and Aikido. I understand if David worked out with Mr. Freeman he was probably impressed. If you train enough with anyone in Aikido you will learn that it's almost impossible to get most of the techniques to work on someone like a boxer, kickboxer, Karateka, or anything like that. The techniques can definitely be effective on untrained or people who have little training. Segal would not be putting Van Damme in joint locks like he said. Segal would have to rely more heavily on his Goju and whatever else he's trained in. I think Van Damme would take Segal but you never know. Segal trained in more than just Aikido and Aikido does help when trained in other arts. Michael Jai White has fought in knockdown tournaments also so he does know about people trying to knock him out. His main style is Kyokushin. If you trained in Kyokushin and fought in knockdown tournaments then you know

The first account came from Stallone when he had done some interview for a website I can't remember. But this might have been around 2006 when Rocky Balboa came out.

Haha this is the never ending debate, I would vote for Van Damme BUT doesn't mean Seagal can't win. In my opinion the most important thing is the mindset, the warrior spirit, and I'm pretty sure Seagal's got it. Someone who spars usually has the advantage however, being unpredictable is very very dangerous. So there's no definite answer to this kind of "Who will win" type of question, yeah X can beat Y but, could X beat Y in 10 out of 10 fights?

Listen … skill set means nothing. When I was younger got in a lot of trouble… fights etc. Guy who’s supposed be a 8th Dan taekwondo guy and long story short because I had a lot more street fights I destroyed this guy to put it mildly. Not a keyboard warrior or nothing like that. Sorry but I’m not giving ANYONE my hand for a wrist lock or anything like that. Van Dam would smoke him. Can’t train for getting punched hard in the face and smiling while getting mad and going after him. Sorry dude … Steve has no chance against a lot of people. Belts are only good for holding up your pants if the fight is not in you.

VS as a lifetime martial artists like yourself i respect la way you talk about the legends. MJW talking about how he could beat Randy Coutoure is REDICOUSE

Van Damme ran his mouth in the late nineties (usually under the influence of cocaine) and was generally considered to be a bit of a mess in this period, The Chuck Zito incident springs to mind

The only reason I think Seagal would stand a chance against Van Damme is because of his size advantage. But you'd better believe that Van Damme has better range because of his kicks. (And I don't mean the fancy flying kicks he does in the movies; I mean very practical kicks like low kicks and front kicks and side kicks.) I'd put my money on Van Damme because none of the evidence shows me Seagal can counter powerful strikes from a trained kickboxer or MMA guy.

Then he says but jcvd is not a fighter lmao mjw keeps getting more delusional by the day

Stallone witnessed it

That would have been an awesome flight to watch in their prime, but current day Seagal wouldn't have the cardio to last in a fight that wasn't ended right away.

MjW is becoming so full of shit, he might be Segal's protege. I remember when V S interviewed him an mjw back tracked his comments

Stallone has an interview on RU-vid where he says atleast the part at his house was true and that Segal wanted no part of JCVD. Stallone said he would win because he's way too strong for Segal. I always loved all their movies so idk why so many hate on Segal.

3:27 the pause 😂. you made him look possessed

I have heard Stallone talk about the story I wanna say it was on Howard stern show

I like both van damme and seagal. Both are two of my favourite action stars. Stallone, Arnold and Dolph are up there, too.

I like both Actors. But i think Seagal could beat van Damme. Seagal is a master in his art plus Aikido has deadly moves.

I don't care about Van Damme, Seagal, etc I like it!! PS: Nobody is perfect!

I think seagal may have beat van dam back in the day not because of martial arts ability but because he is actual big guy

Seagal's training, especially combined with his size, looks excellent for taking down untrained thugs. He probably was one of the toughest guys in the street when he taught in Japan. But athletic, trained strikers are a different kettle of fish. They're not going to stand around and let you grab them or do anything to them. They're just going to hit you at lightning speed. And a lot of them know how to grapple, too (e.g. the MMA and Muay Thai guys).

Chuck zito knocked van damme out

I fully understand what you are talking about.Steven has sade that he has fighting all his life and trained all his life and he are a high level fighter and martial artist.Van Damme is way smaller and he telegraphs many of his kicks.I think Seagal would sweep his leg or throw him on the ground in seconds.when i was a kid i would say Van Damme but steven got a big presence and seems werry intelligent.to use your opponents energy against them are werry positive in a fight.I am a ittle bit disapointed too that Michael are crapping on Seagal cause Michael are also a great martial artist and should know that its all about the person not the style.

There is not ONE other martial artist in Hollywood that has the credentials Seagal has. Bruce Lee doesn't count. He was a unique genius. But Seagal had better traditional belt recognition. In Japan.

Cool to see a reaction video to some of the things these people say. I think Steven Seagal gets a bad rap because he doesn't do all the fancy kicking and his weight gain but being able to do all those kicks doesn't mean he can't fight and his techniques are more for real life situations, not to just show off ability.

I heard that story WAY before Expendables ever came out. Im talking at least 10yrs before.

Despite all the b******* around him, he is and Aikido master and is well-versed in many karate styles as well.

Even Bruce Lee doesn't need to fight! It was just enough to see his body and some ultra speed punch and kicks. Then you know that he can fight and kick many ass*s. Seagal is good just in Aikido on short range. Van Damme would crush his head with long distance kicks. And look at Van Damme body (in ''90 and now)! Seagal had just an ordinary body! 100% Van Damme wins anytime, anyhow!

Oh, easy, a head kick knockout.” 😛💯☺️

You've quickly become one of my favorite youtubers for your defense of Seagal. Imo he's one of the first example of being canceled. You've debunked a lot of these tales assassinating his character. Obviously he's 70 years old now and some of his newer movies are silly, but the guy was about as elite as a martial artist could get. It's silly for guys like Michael to say a normal guy like vlad could beat Seagal. Personally if this whole fight story is true and Seagal ducked him, it was probably so he didn't break any of Van Damnes limbs and get sued destroying his acting career lmao. Keep up the good work!

Seagal with his master: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-v61YxXPCUss.html His master confirmed at second 55 that they had some real fights while Seagal was in Japan!!!

Van Damme would win 40 years ago..and today..He fights,defends,stronger physique,more agile.. This is all speculation on my part though.

11:06 im sure Van Damn and Seagal can defend themselves if need be, but if they should face of i think the person who spars under pressure would have the advantage.

MJW is so full of himself. Has he ever admitted that someone could beat him unquestionably? He always adds the “He could beat me….. but I was a beginner.” He always insinuates he could beat these guys when they are at their prime.

I’ve been saying there’s a lot of BS in this industry when it comes to these guys. Not saying they can’t handle themselves. But! There are some serious holes in some of these rumors

“he sparred me”…. a man who wears a kyokushin gi and belt but never competed in kyokushin. Kyokushin is based in truth and reality. He fails on that part but the organisation he is in has a bit of a reputation for finances

Aikido is a deflecting, redirecting and disarming Martial Art, Aikido was the refinement of the Samurai's hand to hand combat Jujitsu which also used Aikido's Dynamic Sphere but focused on the stand up grappling not ground but again Aikido does have Grappling hand and finger locks, their training also develops very good reflexes due to the one hit with the sword and you're dead attitude, lots of Kendo training and disarming training, Aikido is just not effective in Combat sports, The Dynamic Sphere is not effective against a Grappler or a Wrestler or even a trained Boxer, there are always level to all of this, Lyoto Machida is the perfect example of truly being a Master of your Art and making it work against all odds he made Karate Work, He swept the UFC with Shotokan Karate but it was his skills that were next level and undeniable, Shogun Rua was the one who finally figured him out and KOed him in the Rematch

I don't hate Seagal, but he ain't beating MJW or JCVD.

I saw some of this interview.

It’s like my step father who was a bad ass street fight told me. Never be worried about fighting a big guy. Be concerned about a little guy that wants to fight you. As big guys scare and intimidate where shorter guys have to fight. As a young guy I had many fight it was never the big guys that that where the best fighter. Also he thought me to fight as a child. Then I learned do martial arts for years that I was thought martial arts by him.

I’m gonna let you know right now if you go to Chuck Norris interviews talking about Van Damme I think that’s good enough if Chuck Norris, the world, champion and kickboxing and martial arts is saying bandanna is legit and the man can punch and kick and his credentials check out talk Norris said I think that’s good enough

I'm sure it was one of those "not a big deal" moments but when someone mentions the 2 Stallone says "oh yea by the way this one time"

Michael is a cool guy, but he is definitely full of himself He genuinely thinks he can compete with Jon Jones 😂