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@keiboman
@keiboman 2 года назад
Hi! I've been watching quite a few videos on DIY solar over the past couple of weeks, and this is one of the best. Very straightforward, thorough, and nicely presented. Thanks for taking the time to do this, I have subscribed and I hope your channel finds success if that's what your goal is. Cheers!
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Mike thank you for the kind words, very appreciated and inspiring.
@andykillary6989
@andykillary6989 2 года назад
Ian is the man! I bought 20 panels from him.
@mikesmith-po8nd
@mikesmith-po8nd 2 года назад
Enjoyed the video. Nice to see someone who has a clue As opposed to so many videos that claim to be a budget build and then end up costing as much as having a contractor do it.
@Smackvttv
@Smackvttv 2 года назад
Living off grid for 15 years now I just upgraded to lifepo4 battery’s At this day in age I would never recommend led acid to anyone they may be cheaper in initial cost but to get the same amount of storage you need 2x more . 100 ah led acid = about 40 ah irl. Don’t buy led acid
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
Hello Smack, this is good advice given all the alternatives now available for Lithium and cold or even Salt battery solutions. Couldn't agree more on storage capacity and discharge rates. Where I live currently, 46 degrees north everyone relies heavily on Lead acid as the temperatures can get really cold (-50), with people living off grid 100% they have no alternative for charging there batteries in the event there is no sun. Of course there is allot of Lead acid batteries available as well on the market, making them a very cheap additional energy source when rebuilding old units.
@harryv6147
@harryv6147 2 года назад
William, great summary video of describing the various component of your solar system. Very organized and clearly presented!!! Great job and very informative!
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
Thank you sir, really nice compliment! Been working on how to improve the videos.
@hozettes
@hozettes 2 года назад
Im impressed with how well organized and researched this was. I learned alot watching this. Thanks
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thank you for the comments, glad it helped.
@coryj1811
@coryj1811 2 года назад
Appreciate the video. Been researching and looking into solar the past 6 months or so and besides the basic maintenance stuff around house I haven't messed with electricity much. Not gonna lie was bit to take in at first but just like with alot of things in life, if you take the time to learn about something you'll understand it more. Plus the help of people like you and others I've found and that share their knowledge and experience. Finally about to take my first step and make some purchases. Thanks again 👍
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thanks for watching and sharing your comments Cory!
@butcher9266
@butcher9266 2 года назад
One of the best and most informative videos. WELL DONE !!!!!!!!
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thank you sir, glad ot helped!
@michaeldomanski2472
@michaeldomanski2472 2 года назад
Informative and a great benefit. Thank you for taking the time to produce this content!
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thank you for the kind words and watching.
@evjedi4061
@evjedi4061 2 года назад
Great job. Very clean very Pacific and to the point. Next time I would explain how doing it yourself makes it easier to troubleshoot if there’s a problem. Pretty obvious but you know.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
-Thanks EV Jedi for the kind remarks and pointers, duels noted as I move forward. "May you be embraced in the force"
@BigHeinen
@BigHeinen 2 года назад
As opposed to being very Atlantic?? Oh My!!
@luckydogfarms
@luckydogfarms 2 года назад
Always learn more when I watch your videos! Thanks, J
@larrymacdonald4241
@larrymacdonald4241 2 года назад
Dual purpose panels, they use water to cool the panels and the hot water can be used for domestic.... sold in California, my idea over 10 years ago...small sail boat wind generators... there is a guy in NJ who gets temps over 100 fahr using a similar system in the winter. LTO cells for battery packs, Daly BMS.... silicone wire, high strand count, high conductivity and less line losses, resistance etc... the larger the wire or multipule strands of smaller wire the less heat and resistance you have. Combining all 3 types of passive energy gives you more options, more reliability more self reliance. Heat is the worst enemy of solar panels... so using water to cool them, makes them last longer.... there is a guy in Aus. who builds tesla type power wall units, he does some nice work...
@Chris-ie9os
@Chris-ie9os 2 года назад
Another place you can cut cost is fuses. Fuses are only required on PV lines if you're paralleling 3 or more strings. 1 or 2 strings do not require over current protection.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thanks for the comments Chris!
@dougsagal5860
@dougsagal5860 2 года назад
Been in solar stuff for35 years = you did very well in your selection sizing etc = should you advance to the green house I would suggest looking at nife batteries tied in so as to use the browns gas/ hho that is a buy produce the can be used to enhance plant and health situations = read up on George wise browns gas
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Hello Doug and thank you for taking the time to share you comments and advise, much appreciated!
@mainerdiy8399
@mainerdiy8399 2 года назад
Thanks for all the excellent, detailed info.
@bigcheese4454
@bigcheese4454 2 года назад
these vids have answered 90% of questions I have had, so thank you for taking the time to make them. 1 question I still have is, I see you have a ground rod for your pv combiner boxes and solar panels. Did you run a ground wire out of your PV combiner bow back to the inverter? or just 2 reds and 2 blacks? If you did run a ground wire where did you terminate it inside? Again thanks
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Hello Big Cheese! Going from the combiner box to the inverter I only ran both DC hot wires, no ground. I did however connect a physical ground to the case of my combiner box directly to a grounding rod at the panels chasis.
@tabbott429
@tabbott429 2 года назад
Im using a 3.5KW setup for backup power, Ive had it set up since 2014. Im still using 24 golfcart lead acid batteries since they were affordable back then at 85$ each. I dont use the system unless the power goes out but 75% of the panels are hooked to grid tie microinverters for lowering the electric bill. Id like to upgrade my batteries in the near future with lithium but I aslo want to move so I will probably just do a new setup at my new place. I will definitely make a rack for the panels instead of roof mount in the future. Thanks for sharing your info
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
Hello TDA and thank you for the sharing your comments! Good advise for newbies.
@philippekuster
@philippekuster 2 года назад
Hey nice to see a new channel on preparedness and homestead. Im from Southern Brazil 🇧🇷 Already subscribed God bless your homestead and work
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Welcome aboard the channel and thank you for the kind words of aspiration!
@thomasbranson7237
@thomasbranson7237 2 года назад
I am in the process of changing my system from a 12 volt to 24 volt at present. Not you got me thinking about going to the next step above that. Thanks, you give me something to think about.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
Thanks Thomas for reaching out, if you're in a house I would most definitely go with a 48v system if you still can and there's not allot of other components needing changing, cheers mate!
@mkonvo
@mkonvo 2 года назад
Just curious, are you using 2x6 or 2x8 for your panel mounting? Planning mine out now. Thanks for all of the great info. I'm in Michigan also but southwestern side.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
I used 2 x 6 for a more rigid strength.
@drax50ish58
@drax50ish58 2 года назад
Very helpful, thanks for sharing this William
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Glad it was helpful Drax!
@IlyaDemidov
@IlyaDemidov 2 года назад
Finally a video on solar station that does look like it was done DIY. I have very similar station and its cost is around 7k USD (I have lead-acid 10 kWh batteries), also bought 7 kW gas generator (2 liters of gas for each 7 kW of energy; up 80 liters of fuel a year). I have Discord channel where I encourage people to go solar. And in the end of the winter I will give results of living in an off grid house with similar video.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thanks for sharing Llya, I'll be having a look at your channel. Living Off Grid has become the new place to be.
@GavinStoneDIY
@GavinStoneDIY 2 года назад
Great video. Would really love to see more about how you constructed the array, and what hardware you used to attach the panels to the superstrut.
@qvrty6
@qvrty6 Год назад
Awesome dude! Great job! I'm following your lead!
@lifeinnorthpolealaska8198
@lifeinnorthpolealaska8198 2 года назад
Awesome, thank you for the details
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- thank you!
@prilep5
@prilep5 2 года назад
Great system and excellent video with text inserts of the important info. I enjoyed every minute you’re very smart man. Subscriber
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thank you for the inspirational comments, this keeps the energies flowing on the positive cables! Happy DIY'ing and welcome to the channel.
@prilep5
@prilep5 2 года назад
@@ahhlifesgood1956 Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
@johnparkerthegimpygardener
@johnparkerthegimpygardener 2 года назад
The place cut you a big break ? They are more than double that now.
@smallshoptalk589
@smallshoptalk589 2 года назад
By the way, I had 2 solar companys talk to me about using MY ROOF to produce electricity just to sell it back to the electric company. No Batteries. Over $50,000.00. But with government credits so it will be lower. Credits not guaranteed, but I still would owe them over 50 Grand. I told them to hit the road.
@bdjm8595
@bdjm8595 2 года назад
Excellent video, thanks for the breakdown !!!
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thank you sir!
@dper1112
@dper1112 2 года назад
You mention upgrades as a benefit to 8 gauge wire, which it is. Another small but real benefit is less transmission loss.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Good point and thanks for sharing.
@donrad
@donrad 2 года назад
The main way to reduce cost is to design the house and lifestyle to use less electrical power. Q: Did you look into whether or not it would be cost effective to have a solar rack that could be manually adjusted to change the panel angle for different seasons?
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
Hi Don - The first sentence you have written is stated perfectly. No I haven't calculated the cost differences as of yet on being able to adjust the panels to follow the sun but I can assure you this is very important topic that needs allot more discussion, the difference is big for people like myself with limited sunlight as opposed to others.
@ryanbeck7166
@ryanbeck7166 2 года назад
Every electrical supply house sells wire by the foot. Also, Home Depot sells wire by the foot. Nice system. 👍
@Scoopy2022
@Scoopy2022 2 года назад
Very cool setup, however, living in Canada as I do, I wouldn't ever consider setting up an offgrid system without some ability to charge your batteries besides solar!! I talked to one older fellow after he had solar installed, and he said in 2013, there was a stretch of 3 months during the winter that he never saw more than 3 days in that entire period that had good clean sunlight!! Thankfully he had a backup generator!!
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Hello Kevin and thank you for commenting. I would agree with your recommendations, those living in the northern climates where snow or rainfall, conditions are high causing literally causing "sun outs", having either extra panels, and a few more batteries than you're normal solar setup is recommended. If you have the luxury to do so, a backup wind generator would also be ideal if you're 100% off grid. The luxury of Hydro probably isn't an option unless you have a fast enough current where the river doesn't freeze and or you have the space to put the turbine low enough in the water table where it won't freeze.
@Gunns57
@Gunns57 2 года назад
Very good video. I like your system.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thank you Mike!
@kameljoe21
@kameljoe21 2 года назад
If you plan to add more panels I would just go with getting something like a midnight charge controller if you do not need more inverter space. Adding another array or 2 is always easy. Did you run the wires in conduit? if you did then it might be easy to sting in a few more lines for new arrays. You can never have enough solar. Winter time is one when having extra panels really pays off. In the summer it really helps as well because you can turn on another ac unit and not feel guilty about it. The all in one inverters are nice. I like the MPP solar ones because of their higher voltage rating. 450v for one of their battery-less inverter. Also you can only make them battery less if they are ran as single units. Though there is not a larger unit out there. I would like to find a unit that is 20kw inverter with 30kw of solar and can be battery-less. As the current way my home is set up adding in a few kw all in one battery less inverter if futile. With the battery less you can also back them up with the grid which is great for those who want to cut their day time electric cost by larger margins. This could also be the means of running air conditioners with out the extra monthly cost, running electric heat with out the extra cost.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thanks for weighing in William and offering good advise for myself and others, most solar enthusiast would agree I'm sure that you just can't have enough panels, especially those in the areas where sunlight is a higher priced commodity! I was also at a tossup between MPP Solar and Growatt, the only deciding factor for me was that these smaller growatt series are perfect for the greenhouse, while being scalable for my trial period In-House until the Climate controlled greenhouse has been built. Battery-less option inverters are a great option to have available.
@jimanddiana4103
@jimanddiana4103 2 года назад
Very helpful. Thanks for sharing what you did.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Glad it was helpful Jim and Diana!
@therealpeterburke
@therealpeterburke 2 года назад
the wire now costs $966 per 500 ft 8 gauge reel at Menards. Copper prices are off the charts
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Like everything else these days, inflation is off the charts and continuing.
@richardpayne9640
@richardpayne9640 2 года назад
wow! great information Thank you for sharing
@upnorthandpersonal
@upnorthandpersonal 2 года назад
I've got a 10kW solar system coupled with a 28kWh LiFePO4 DIY battery with BMS. The system includes 2x100A charge controller and a 6kW low frequency inverter. Together with all wiring, and my DIY ground mounts the total cost of the system was
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- That sounds like a really nice system and at a great price, was planning myself to DIY the next round of batteries. What did you use for the BMS?
@upnorthandpersonal
@upnorthandpersonal 2 года назад
@@ahhlifesgood1956 JK BMS. It's a 2x16 280Ah cell battery pack, so 2x that BMS. It's been running for almost two years now without issues. I'll probably double the capacity this year.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
@@upnorthandpersonal - Thanks for sharing, I'm in the market myself for backup BMS to my EG4'z and for expansion of my current system
@upnorthandpersonal
@upnorthandpersonal 2 года назад
@@ahhlifesgood1956 No problem. Are you on Will Prowse's forum? If not, I would recommend dropping by there :)
@harrisidiens564
@harrisidiens564 2 года назад
Gyll look really good
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thanks for commenting Harris, the EG4's (supposedly GYLL) work great, it's only the BMS speaking to the Inverters that is the issue for myself. Thankfully the BMS of the EG4's is good enough to allow AMPS in or OUT intelligently enough where the inverters help is not needed. My plan is to install an additional BMS between inverters and batteries as a backup prior to expansion.
@brandongroth4569
@brandongroth4569 2 года назад
Very interesting. Do you have a estimate of how much research, buying, and installing hours you did? I know that installers typically charge about 10k-20k for a system, but then you are paying someone else to have the equipment, shopping, and knowledge to install for you. Everyone values their time different, but it might be good to explain how much effort goes into doing something like this.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Hello Brandon, that is a very good point to address as the research time involved consumes many hours, days and weeks for those not familiar with how these systems work, under what conditions and what your energy needs might be. I couldn't tell you how much time I've vested, been very enjoyable to this point thus far.
@bobturner6516
@bobturner6516 2 года назад
great video, but I think it would even better if you gave examples or demonstrate what you can run or power with your set up such as appliances, furnace etc.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Sounds like a great video, pushing the system to the limits and see how well it'll perform without being connected to the Grid. I'll do that at the point of moving it to the greenhouse in the event something goes "haywire", Thanks Bob
@ssoffshore5111
@ssoffshore5111 2 года назад
Nice job! It looks like you're running the 24v batteries in a 48v configuration. I noticed these are easier to get and a little cheaper as well. Any regrets with not using the 48v models?
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
Thank you for the review and words of encouragement, kindly appreciated! I purchased the 24v originally for my greenhouse, the need being for lower voltage ranges at 12v. If I could go back I would've purchased the 48v batteries from the beginning, it only makes sense when all other equipment is running on 48v, not to mention the BMS of the 24v batteries doesn't match with the Growatt inverters communication correctly.
@TimBee100
@TimBee100 2 года назад
I skipped over a bit of the video. Is that enough power to run your entire household or do you still need to be connected to the grid?
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Hello Time Bee, yes the system does provide enough electricity to power my house entirely, but of course you need to be very conscious of the amounts of loads you're using or demanding of the system and if the sun will shine ro replenishthe batteries. I would recommend a minimum of a 10000 watt system for a house, I only have 6000 watts currently.
@douglashilton4048
@douglashilton4048 2 года назад
I have 4350 watt Solar, with a 6000 watt growatt inverter (240 volt split phase)and 3 - 48 volt eg4 batteries (15.3KW) .. all on a 40' motor home.
@ne1cup
@ne1cup 2 года назад
good job ,looks very professional , I enjoyed your video
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thank you sir
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 2 года назад
Could you make a video walkaround of your pressure treated solar array setup? I've been wanting to do something like that and yours is the most efficient and well designed I've seen anywhere based on this short video. Wood may not last 30 years and so people poo-poo it but most solar installs only make it about 10 anyway before theft, hail, moving, etc so that makes sense to me. I was also thinking of using superstrut but am unclear on how those Ubolts fit in and such. Thanks for the video!
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- I'll make a more detailed walk around on the solar rack, thanks for asking.
@andrewyates5548
@andrewyates5548 2 года назад
I know you already did it the way you did it but just a money saving fyi for you for future projects, Instead of buying way more wiring than you need just buy one roll of white that will cover all the distance you need and label the connected ends with black or whatever color electrical tape. The color only has to be correct for the first foot after each connection.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thank you Andrew for the advise as it's very true and the 1000' foot rolls are less expensive than the 500'.
@TheWadetube
@TheWadetube 2 года назад
Signature Solar has solar panels for 40 to 43 cents per watt on the low end and averages around 50 cents per watt. The cheapest battery is 24 volt at `100 amp hours or 2.4 kilowatt hours for $500. Two for me was $1,000 dollars for a 5 kilowatt hour pack. I spent about 3,600 dollars for 7 kilowatts of panels each being 370 watts. My dad and I split up 33 panels, 14 for him and 19 for me. His inverter was 1250 dollars and he also got a 5,000 watthour battery pack for a thousand dollars. Together we spent over 9,330$ and I don't have my inverter picked out yet but I will probably get the same as his, a grow watt 6000 watt system and I will put 16 panels on it ,two series of 8 in parallel connections to keep the voltage down and the amps to about 16 to 18 amps. When finished this system will have cost me over 5 thousand dollars and I will upgrade it later with more batteries and I will also have 3 panels left over to run a separate small system of 3,000 watts with a simple inverter and 3 or four lead acid batteries. Two systems so I can avoid total shutdowns if there is a problem.
@electricandlspower
@electricandlspower 2 года назад
Great video. Thanks for doing a full overview of the system.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
Thanks EV, appreciate the kind comments!
@jeffmichael113
@jeffmichael113 2 года назад
Hi! I checked out pricing for the panels and batteries at the website you mentioned, and the prices are much more expensive (almost double). Did the prices jump up since you purchased yours or was there an error there. FYI I did price those panels in bulk (pallet pricing). Please let me know. Thanks, great video!
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
Wow!!! The prices I quoted were pretty close to right on. I bought a pallet (25 panels) one year ago for $2000 including shipping. I can only imagine the prices have went up with all the political issues these days, along with inflation
@hortensejones5213
@hortensejones5213 2 года назад
I must say great video but can i ask some question. Between mono and poly , solar panels..any of these two type can be connected in series. How would you calculate the wire needed from the solar panels from rooftop to your growat inverter, am considering to install a 3600w solar system and 3000w inverter....i would need the calculation for the size wire from inverter to battery bank. How many battery it would require for an off grid system? I see you install a breaker box in this video which a great idea.. can i ask a question on that..for instance install a breaker box too. How would u calculate the size wire for the output current, coming from the inverter to the breaker box.. For instant there is a 2 (40amp breaker install) what type wire should be connect to those 2 amps. And there is 1 (15amp breaker) what type wire should be connected to that... Can you please explain so i can understand..and if you any video ..that can help , i would appreciate that too
@MaximeDulude
@MaximeDulude 2 года назад
I think that it could be a good video if you could let us know what s your plan with solar + greenhouse. Are you trying to be self sufficient as possible? What are your upcoming goals?
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Great idea for an up and coming video, thank you!
@aearnest
@aearnest 2 года назад
how did you run the wire from the panels to the house ? did you bury it and did you have to put in a conduit?
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
Yes I buried the cable in electrical conduit.
@rklauco
@rklauco 2 года назад
I don't understand one thing. The Growatt supports up to 4.5kW of solar, but you have 7.5kW array. Does it mean that by having 2 of the inverters, you also doubled the solar capacity it can handle?
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
Hi Robert, the array on paper is capable of 7.5 kw but it never reaches 100% rated capabilities, at best I get close to 6kw but for only a second or two but normally bouncing between from 4kw to 5.5kw on the peak performance. Most solar panels from what I here never reach full capability of performance, pending the multitude of conditions and variables of course. As is the case where I'm at, were farther from the sun and the angle right now I believe is around 14% above the horizon, making intensity minimal. At best peak performance I reach almost 95% capacity of each inverter for a second, almost total capacity of 3000w (3kw) each inverter. So almost full capacity of just under 6kw of power from both PV arrays when the sun is peaking at it's best, no obstructions, clouds and tracking angles are exactly perfect. Which is RARELY the case when you have a stationary solar rack. Now if this system were in the desert or closer to the equator I would imagine the array would be slightly to large for 2 inverters that can only handle 6kw, these measurements need to be taken by each person pending location on the planet. Its also a good thing to not be peaking the full capability of your equipment, the lighter the load on your inverters I would imagine the more optimal they'll perform over the long-haul.
@miketanner1920
@miketanner1920 2 года назад
Thank you for the great info brother Have a great day God bless Just saying
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- And thank you Mike for the kind words, brothers we are!
@GregHassler
@GregHassler 2 года назад
I have a 17kW, 50-panel (340 watt panels) grid-tied microinverter system that was installed by a local solar contractor last year for $20,000. No batteries yet. I thought it was a pretty good deal.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thanks for sharing Greg, sounds like you have a powerful system at a very reasonable price.
@RedandAprilOff-Grid
@RedandAprilOff-Grid 2 года назад
Nice! Our 6,400 Watt system was around $7,000.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
Very nice to hear, extremely affordable for plenty of power.
@RedandAprilOff-Grid
@RedandAprilOff-Grid 2 года назад
@@ahhlifesgood1956 It was a challenge. We ordered the major components and batteries from Alibaba.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
@@RedandAprilOff-Grid - Good information, how long did you have to wait for merchandise when ordering direct from Alibaba? I looked into ordering direct myself but shipping was outrageous for heavy items, unless you order an entire container for me the cost difference wasn't feasible.
@RedandAprilOff-Grid
@RedandAprilOff-Grid 2 года назад
@@ahhlifesgood1956 We ordered everything in December of 2020 before all of the shipping issues and delays. It was a pretty large order because we also ordered the components for 2 more systems for family, so that helped bring the price down too. It took about 6 weeks to get everything in. We have a video on our channel about the system and components.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
@@RedandAprilOff-Grid - Thanks for sharing, I like your video on laying out the house direction trying to find due south!
@finpainter1
@finpainter1 2 года назад
Nice set up. Did you apply for your gov. rebate..?
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thanks for the comments Fin, I haven't applied for the credits as I plan to use them as tax write offs, though the credits is a nice option.
@mikedoingmikethings702
@mikedoingmikethings702 2 года назад
Little money for me is $5 bucks LOL Great video sir!!!
@navyretired230
@navyretired230 2 года назад
Very good price. Congrats. My DIY 31 panel 12KW roof mount system cost me $17k. I could of shaved off 45-7k if I knew about buying bulk panels. Thanks for sharing
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thank you for the comments and sharing as well, valuable information for the viewers. 12kw is a descent size system, especially being that it's roof mounted.
@geraldkoth654
@geraldkoth654 2 года назад
A very good summary of your system and costs. Providing why and where you purchased helps too. On another channel some folks with similar KW as you used some ingenuity to make tilting panel holders. They can follow the best angle for capturing sunshine and only adjust four times a year. Check the Life Uncontained channel. From my knothole I think you could run another top horizontal and some hinges and or risers at the bottom horizontal. Then all you would need are arcs of metal with a central cutout that can be bolted to the "vertical" struts at any angle you choose. Min and Max will depend on your latitude. To make it even more simple, you would just have holes in a plate that give you the four or more angles you choose. Just propping it up and laying it down.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
Hello Gerald and thanks for sharing your comments, the horizontal hinged system you're referring to is exactly what I'm thinking of doing for the additional racks of panels in the future. I'm not to concerned on the East-West swivel as, those adjustments would need to be done daily if you don't have it automated, but I do want to harness the Up-Down pitch, like you said you could adjust it 4 times a year and really gain allot of extra sunlight from the angel differences accomplished. I think allot of folks under estimate how much more energy you can harness with a tilt system in areas that don't' have the sun shinning 99% of the time like the Midwest.
@terrywinningham5405
@terrywinningham5405 2 года назад
Very informative, hopefully the battery options will improve and hopefully pricing comes down.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Hello sir, thank you for the comments!
@mr-andre
@mr-andre 2 года назад
Thank you for the break down.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Very welcome Andre, thank you for watching.
@colinstace1758
@colinstace1758 2 года назад
What do you estimate the pay back time ? And how long do the batteries last ? Looks like a pretty neat install 👍🙂
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thank you for the comments - I just answered another viewer on this and have added to your additional question on battery time: "Great question, savings or return on solar investment wouldn't be until after the 7 - 20 year mark for most people, depending largely on size (cost) of your investments and if you use tax credits to write off your investment. My system will pay for itself in 3 years, if I use the tax credits. The option that I have backup utility to me in the event there is no Power is without price."... Battery Discharge rates will depend on how much electricity you consume and for how ling you'll need it. These time variables can differ immensely, as well as the costs can get astronomical with battery banks, very fast. As for how long the batteries last, well the manufactures says 7000 cycles (apprx. 15 yrs) at 80% discharge. Whether these numbers ring true, we wont know until they've been on the market long enough.
@leifhietala8074
@leifhietala8074 2 года назад
To help put this kind of info in perspective, count up how many kilowatt-hours you've produced with your system. Divide that by your total expenditure to put your outlay in the same framework as what on-grid electricity consumers pay: money per kilowatt-hour. While it's early days it'll look like a terrible comparison and you've thrown your money at a losing proposition, but unlike ratepayers - like myself - your spending is pretty much done. Every kilowatt-hour you generate without spending more money works to the good. The longer it lasts, the more affordable your system looks until eventually it becomes pretty obvious that your way is the best way: it costs a hell of a lot up front, and is cheaper every day after that.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Hello Leif and thank you for taking the time to share your insights. Solar to me really comes down to the question of "if you need it," if you need it well then the cost is justifiable. In truth we really don't need electricity but we've conditioned ourselves to think we do, therefore we spend most time and money more often than not on luxuries we never needed at all. Cheers
@ruudfalun
@ruudfalun 2 года назад
Nice video! One remark, two questions. Remark: your batteries have a total of 20 kWh (not kW). Questions: What is the maximal output of the 4 batteries combined (in kW). Is this limited by the batteries or by the Growatt inverters?
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 Год назад
Each battery is Lithium Iron Phosphate battery 25.6V (24V) 5.12kWh with 200AH internal, combined I have 4 x this.
@douglashilton4048
@douglashilton4048 2 года назад
What's your reasoning for using 4 - 24volt batteries that I can see you wired 2 in series then paralleled them to make 48 volts. Why didn't you buy 48 volt batteries to begin with?
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- At the time of purchase I could only get the 24v, I would recommend using 48v batteries with a 48v system if you have the option.
@henrylee8092
@henrylee8092 2 года назад
William been watching a lot of videos on solar systems and have gotten bids thru energysage. Debating whether to DIY or Quoted Installed. My main question is where you an electrician prior or learned on your own with reading and YT? So your system produces up to 7.5 KW but your inverter combined could handle only 6KW. Would the excess damage the inverter?
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Hello Henry and thank you for writing. I have not had any official electrical training, allot of reading, questions to freinds who know about electricity and watching allot of videos before proceeding. My original plan was to hire an electrician to help in the design, have a professional revision during installation and then a final check, all while doing the work myself. In the end I felt confident enough in my work to continue without hiring anyone. This system is capable of 6kw, in summer I don't reach max capacity due to the angle of panels, but in winter I do given reach max given the reflection from snow. The inverters automatically are only allowing in the max capacity of electricity, never shutting down, maintaining at pr near the max capacity.
@bobcole3852
@bobcole3852 2 года назад
Great job, on installation and the video. One question, do you have 2pole breakers in the panel from grid to supply inverters or are you off grid? And, what size breakers are you using to send power from inverters to panel? Assume a one pole 20amp... Thanks for doing the video, again, great job and I subbed to see what else you're doing
@denisshavaliev1849
@denisshavaliev1849 2 года назад
It would be interesting to see solar panels efficiency to understand how much power you can get in reality versus information given in data sheet
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Sounds like a great video on efficacy of the panels, capabilities, costs and time, thank you Denis for your comments.
@1quickdub
@1quickdub 2 года назад
That is a lot of power for the money, especially considering you went with Lithiums. Great work!
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- thank you for the comments sir, yes I'm surprised myself at the cost and amount of electricity one can produce daily.
@Off-Grid
@Off-Grid 2 года назад
Nice layout. Wish we had gone with another brand. We did Schneider.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thanks Journey, was a joy implementing this system. We'll have to see how the Growatt and EG4's do overtime!
@MichaelWaiteMusic
@MichaelWaiteMusic 2 года назад
Thanks for putting this video up. It’s been helpful. I’m a fellow DIY Yooper over by Big Bay, planning on building something similar.
@xiaowei1
@xiaowei1 2 года назад
That was very cheap given you are in the US. In Australia, it cost me about $8,000 ($5,765 US) to have a 13.2kw system installed on my roof (2 x 6.6 half cell systems, with 5kw inverters for each system). I do not have a battery set up though, and a 20kw system would cost well over $20,000 ($14,413 US) here as tehre are no government subsidies for batteries yet.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thanks for sharing neighbor, the price you paid is relatively inexpensive factoring installation costs, other viewers have been much higher in comparison. I hope all is well in the land down under mate!
@leandraaraya5648
@leandraaraya5648 2 года назад
Excellent video!!! Very good job, easy to understand with all the comments.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
Thank you very much!
@cowboymcq6711
@cowboymcq6711 2 года назад
How much was the pallet of panels ?
@johnfitbyfaithnet
@johnfitbyfaithnet 2 года назад
Does the inverter have a charge controller?
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
These inverters have built in charge controllers, very nice option with these growatts.
@MrLibertyLane
@MrLibertyLane 2 года назад
Thank you! Very informative!
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- My pleasure Jim, glad it was helpful.
@willowoodherbals
@willowoodherbals 2 года назад
thanks for mentioning if you are using them totally off grid to use the 5000 series, I am having difficulty finding info on doing my own off grid cabin full time living. too many videos only address part time usage.. for smallest split heat pump & smallest fridge 6 to 9 cubic ft.. doing this in 2022... with the hopes of not going without electric
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Hello Jaded Willowood, they're many variables that need to be considered when looking to go fully off grid with ONLY solar and battery as your power source. First I would recommend a generator as a backup in any event, secondly the design of your system will depend on how much electricity you will need and use on a daily basis, along with your locations amount of sunlight availability during the calendar year. Once determined you'll need to consider how many days you'll need to have battery backup reserve providing electricity in the event you don't have any sunshine to charge your batteries. At a minimum you should calculate 3 days, I would prefer 5 days, but batteries can be very expensive when looking to store large amounts of electricity.
@scruffy4647
@scruffy4647 2 года назад
Really eye opening video. I am planning a 9kw install. Aside from outages, what are the advantages for using batteries. My system is going to be grid tie. Not worried about outages.
@benjones8977
@benjones8977 2 года назад
I’m wondering how 200 A on four batteries gives you 20 kW? I have eight Battle Born Batteries and this gives me a total of 9600 WH. That’s 9.6 kW.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Hi Ben, when speaking in 24volt batteries which is what I have not by choice at the time of purchase, so at 48v it'd be 10k amps as you suggest.
@paulfry7378
@paulfry7378 2 года назад
Great video! I'm subscribing. How much per month are you saving, and how much do you charge to come to Minneapolis and put it together? LOL 😂😂
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thanks for the comments Paul, I'm saving on average roughly $200 a month in electric costs. Albeit the best part being is that I'm not dependent on the grid if something should go wrong or electric prices start to match that of inflation. Having that next level of independence is gratifying. I can be contacted directly if you go to the "About" page on my channel, I can point you in the right direction if you're serious about installing a system.
@dice468
@dice468 2 года назад
Thanks
@Mripoststupidstuff
@Mripoststupidstuff 2 года назад
Dude your set up is 20x the size of mine, lol. I have 2x 24v panels on a single controller, going to 2 truck batteries. That powers a 24volt inverter. Off that I can run a small fridge, and charge my laptops. I have a single panel on a car battery to run the 12volt Car Stereo and the lights. If I ever get around to cleaning the place up I might do a video about it. :)
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Hello Rowen, sounds like a nice start to your system! I've seen a few of these guys put there systems on Dolly's when there smaller, yet very powerful, making it portable and more versatile for alternative applications.
@ianmburke
@ianmburke 2 года назад
Great walk through and production on the video, subbed, and will be referencing this in the coming months when I take on my own diy solar project very similarly. Keep up the great content
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Thanks Ian for the kind words, I hope the video helps as you move forward!
@TheFatman819
@TheFatman819 2 года назад
Why do you need quick disconnects when you can shut each of the Batteries? It dosent hurt anything, where did you get your U bolts to connect the super strut
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Happy Holidays Tony, good question on the Quick Disconnects, in principal they're not needed I added them for convenience and if for some reason I have an issue at the batteries there is another means to cut the current. I actually plan to put in place DC breakers at that same point of the disconnect for added protection.. The U Bolts for rear leaf springs on cars I used for the super struts I ordered online at I beleive NAPA, they're a third of the price than those made for the super strut connectors.
@topeye4202
@topeye4202 Год назад
If you build the batteries by your self, which is quite easy, they cost less than half ($2500/20kWh) My 14kWh (16pcs 280Ah Lifepo4) battery + JK smart BMS (balance current 2A, 200A load) + 5A active balancer (+ his voltage detection controller to activate just above 3,4 Volts) + offline monitor was in total $1750.-
@walktheline21
@walktheline21 2 года назад
Great video. I'm sure i can find this somewhere else, but you promoted the concept of batteries or wind/water to generate power at night. However, with what you presented, can this feed into your existing power? i.e. feed into the grid or do net-credits for not using anything from the grid? I cannot process that without batteries this would be around $4K for me if I just went with panels...
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
This system could feed into my grid but I chose to run it entirely independent so when I transfer the system to my greenhouse I should have the bugs worked out. Which I'm happy to report, the bugs have been minimal.
@houseofancients
@houseofancients 2 года назад
hows your system running, and did you ever get in contact with ss about the comms ?
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Hello House of Ancients, I gave up on the comms. issue for the moment. My system is working flawlessy, amazing performance in winter with the added sun reflection off the snow, averaging between 12 and 32 kwh daily as compared with summer it was around 10 to 20kwh daily. Cheers
@webguyz1
@webguyz1 Год назад
How long did it take to build the ground mount system?
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 Год назад
It's a fairly quick build, probably 4 full days from digging holes,pouring concrete, structure build and mounting panels. Wiring the panels and installing combiner boxes more time was needed but also relatively quick.
@wkinne1
@wkinne1 2 года назад
Grats, best video I've seen on this topic. As a noob I have a question: Why only 6k of inverter ( 2 @ 3K each ) for 7.5K of solar panels? Why 1.5K short/ TIA
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Hello Wayne - This setup is actually for the greenhouse I'm building and a test model prior to making the design around how we can control climate most affordably in these northern areas. The original idea was thought around 120v only, 1 inverter using 12 panels. That lead to an immediate expansion after realizing how little energy 3kw is daily when connecting to electric heaters, given amounts of daily sun intensity. The only difference in the plan now for the greenhouse heating is to rely more heavily on geo thermal heating and use the passive solar to only power max. 120v fans, with minor heating elements for heating underground water tubing. I will upgrade the house Inverters to 2, 5000 min. Inverters and add a minimum of 36 panels 300+ watts.
@wkinne1
@wkinne1 2 года назад
​@@ahhlifesgood1956 I live in Michigan between 43 and 44 degrees North, so I am seeing cold weather too. I am curious as to what tubing you will be burying 15 ft deep for geo thermal, diameter and type. The thin corrugated black stuff similar to drain field pipe would crush?
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
@@wkinne1 - Hello neighbor! I haven't taken a decisive direction on the exact material I'm planning to use for the underground tubing but I am leaning towards the rigid perforated tubing, I think it's 6" in diameter? Depending upon what's below the earth in your area you'll need to plan according from for frost lines, water drainage, depth and length needed for the amount of air you plan to exchange. In my case I'm going to need to dig even deeper than my tubing, creating an escape area and drainage for excess water, given our proximity to allot of water in these areas. I'd image we'll be using rocks of different sizing, plastic and sand as the fillers, to what levels, I have no idea at this point. Once known that'll play into the type of tubing we can use or not for the project.
@larryferguson3387
@larryferguson3387 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
Thanks for watching Larry!
@williamwilliam728
@williamwilliam728 2 года назад
Aside from the battery cost, which I am sure you have your reasons for the overkill storage...that's a reasonable cost for such a big amount of electricity capability. We pay on average $200/month so you can see if with your battery cost we'd be running free in less than 5 years. Awsome break down William!
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Hello William, if you do add solar be sure to plan according to your consumption of electricity needs and then the rule of thumb is to have a 3 day surplus. Honestly for me, depending of course on needs I think a 10kw, system with a 30kw storage system in the northwest is necessary for running your average households, then again I consume allot of electricity. This amount greatly depends on if your conscious or not in your consumption needs. Now in the desert of California you could probably get away with 5kw PV and 10kw battery bank, given the amount of continuous sun. In the end for me it's been worth the small investment for the added stability I have of being Off grid should the time come to be.
@prowebber1
@prowebber1 2 года назад
Great video! Could you please tell us (or do a video) about how you wired your panels, ie. how how many in series/parallel, open volts/amps, max volts/amps, etc.? I'm wondering because I want to buy the exact same Growatt 3000 ES model inverters but the manual says only 18A max solar input and it looks like you have more in parallel that exceed 18A. Also how does the cold weather affect your panel voltage? Does the voltage exceed VOC on really cold mornings? Thanks!
@talquinbiker
@talquinbiker 2 года назад
Wow that's a real good price on those solar panels. Did you buy them used or are they new? And what's the website? Question: I've got a 100 watt solar panel feeding into a 12/24v controller w/ auto reset that feeds to a deep cycle 12v marine battery and then to my lights of my home biz sign. It seems to work temp. Do you have any suggestions? Maybe I need to use a different battery? I have 2 of these batteries that I have changed out and still get issue.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Cheers mate - I bought my panels from Ian over at watts247, great guy. In regards to your issue have you tried connecting both those 12v batteries in parallel and trying them together on your system? In short to me it sounds like your loads are probably higher than the current provided.
@OW...
@OW... 2 года назад
Great info thanks..
@the-papaw
@the-papaw 2 года назад
Great video, great info. Do you run off-grid or grid tie?
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Hello sir, I run off both. When the inverters or battery's cannot provide the electricity needed the Grid comes on automatically to compensate any additional power needs. Very nice system, I'm very happy with it in general.
@DaleLClay
@DaleLClay 2 года назад
Great video, thanks for making it.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
Thank you Dale!
@l0gic23
@l0gic23 2 года назад
One of the best vids of this type. +1 sub. Keep it up.
@ahhlifesgood1956
@ahhlifesgood1956 2 года назад
- Excellent inspiration, thank you sir!
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