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"What if Arthas Hadn't Turned Evil?" - (Alternate Warcraft Lore)

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Arthas, the Lich King, the primary antagonist of World of Warcraft's second expansion. You know his story: the former Paladin student of Uther the Lightbringer, whose homeland was ravaged by the undead Scourge. In desperation to save his people, Arthas underwent a journey that cost him the lives of his friends, the love of his life, and even his very own soul. Taking up the runeblade Frostmourne, he became a Death Knight of the very Scourge he sought to destroy, until ultimately surrendering himself to the Frozen Throne entirely, becoming the new Lich King - the leader of the undead seeking to ravage Azeroth.
But what if Arthas had never turned evil? What if he had made different choices throughout his story of Warcraft 3 and became all that he was hoped to be? In this video, we discuss just that topic. What if Arthas had remained a Paladin, a loyal student, and what exactly would that story have looked like for our hero of the Holy Light.
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@SWBGTOC 7 лет назад

We all know Arthas has made the good choice by purging Stratholme and rushing through Northrend. He sacrificed his honor for his people. If only he didn't pick Frostmourne, we could have done it with the mighty power of whosyourdaddy.

@samokovarik891 7 лет назад

SWBGTOC in book even Uther and Jaina knew it is the best choice to purge but they were pussies

@makaramuss 7 лет назад

It was best choose no doubt Not picking frostmourne but sailing to northrend without knowing anyting was mistake! Do you think Arthas claimed sword by his free will? watch cutscanes of warcraft 3 at all of them AFTER landing northrend(by after I mean RIGHT after... moment he standing on it) he started acting weird. If you ask me from that moment on Ner'zhul started effecting him and prepared him to moment of encountering frostmourne. He burn his own ships! But did you notice that scourge tried to hold him back? I belive that ner'zhul thought Arthas is tring to escape northrend that moment after all he cant access his mind without frostmourne just effect him Moment he landed northrend he was slave to Ner'zhul I belive

@omenpl29 7 лет назад

'you're Cheating!'

@Ower8x 7 лет назад

A small notice, Jaina did not know the exact effects of the plague. She left Hearthglen before the tows people turned into undead, so she only knew that the plague was created and spread by the cult of the dammed, and and the goal is to cleanse the land of life, most likely by killing them.

@blaircox5628 7 лет назад

With great power comes responsibility...

@RealmsofPixelation 7 лет назад

What if the Lich King had been turned into Arthas?

@Murphio25 7 лет назад

Oh,.. my,... Arthas!

@Cyno94 7 лет назад

Arthas! Arthas! Arthas!

@wes7706 7 лет назад

azeroth would fall to his pillar of arthas and is arthas strike

@Wowmusicable 7 лет назад

moonknight12579 Don't spoil the story of the next expansion 😄

@mikemoos 7 лет назад

You mean like, Arthas's personality dominating Ner'zhul's?

@Skollshorties 7 лет назад

"Arthas! This whole city must be Arthased!" "How could you even consider that Arthas! There's got to be some other way!" "Damn it Arthas I order you to Arthas this Arthas! Arthas!" "You are not my Arthas yet! Arthas! Nor would I obey that Arthas even if you were!" "Then I must consider this an act of Arthas!" "Arthas!"

@hashiramasenju3246 7 лет назад

Skoll Shorties delet this

@Skollshorties 7 лет назад

Never.

@General12th 7 лет назад

What's that from?

@Skollshorties 7 лет назад

Nixxiom's Arthas video. Years ago.

@General12th 7 лет назад

Thanks! I looked it up, and I laughed so hard!

@k-dash7245 7 лет назад

A more important question is if Arthas heeded Medivh's warning. Synopsis: -Arthas and Jaina lead the humans of Lordaeron/Theramore. Uther does not join because he is bound to the King. -Lordaeron falls regardless because King Terenas refuses to leave. Terenas is eventually killed by undead. -Stratholme is not culled; undead flood from the city. -Uther is not slain; remains alive to keep undead from advancing. -Arthas and Jaina skirmish with the Horde, but eventually become allies thanks to Medivh. -The Human/Horde/Night Elf alliance cross over to Eastern Kingdoms via portal by Medivh to engage the Scourge. -Although they had a strong start due to Andorhal and Stratholme, the Scourge likely does not have frontline leadership the same caliber as a corrupted Arthas, therefore they have suffered many setbacks when trying to advance towards Quel'thalas. -If Uther is still alive, he likely took his remaining forces to Quel'thalas and teamed up with Sylvanas and her rangers. This makes the Scourge take even longer to advance towards Silvermoon. -The united forces crush the scourge. The Scourge never make it to the Sunwell. No Sunwell = no revived Kel'Thuzad = no one to summon the Legion. Forces of good win again!

@wyamccor 5 лет назад

Sylvanas windrunner wouldn't have been Warchief. No one would persuade Illidan stormrage to take the power of Gul'Dan skull

@Theaverageazn247 5 лет назад

but then we wouldnt have any other wow than vanilla

@niantica1869 5 лет назад

So then why would Medivh convince Jaina and Arthas to go to Kalimdor in the first place? (Just asking)

@Rebellions 5 лет назад

@@niantica1869 He initially tried to convince Arthas, Jaina was eavesdropping on their conversation. If Arthas had listened she probably would have followed Arthas to Kalimdor because she had also listened in on Medivh when he tried to deliver the warning to Antonidas. There's no doubt in my mind she'd have instantly offered to come with him, likely they would have continued on to Stratholme and brought the plan before Uther, who honestly probably would reject it initially, since he believes the demons are gone. Then Mal'Ganis appears and suddenly Uther re-evaluates his position. What happens from there (to my mind) would be much the same, Arthas still takes the fleet, he just heads to Kalimdor instead of Northrend, this time Uther doesn't try to recall his soldiers, and in fact *he* probably ends up going to Northrend since Mal'Ganis tells them "hey I'll be 'chillin' in Northrend" to exact justice on the demon (because you know, after the orcs pulled that demon shit Lordareon takes that stuff VERY seriously once proof is presented) The real question then becomes "does Mal'Ganis kill Uther, or does Uther win and if so, does he head to Kalimdor to aid the prince, or go back to Lordaeron and get his shit pushed in by Tichondrious?"

@niantica1869 5 лет назад

@@Rebellions No I meant another thing cause the guy said that if Arthas would have listened to Medivh then Uther would have been the one leading the forces in Lordaeron but since he chooses not to cull Stratholme it floods with the undead, meanwhile because Arthas isn't the new Death Knight, the Scourge doesn't have the same skilled leader as he is. Therefore it takes them longer to get to Quel'Thalas . Since Uther is still alive he leads his remaining forces to Quel'Thalas to ally with Slyvannas so that they can stop the Scourge from reviving Kel'Thuzad. Without him, there won't be anyone to summon Archimonde into Azeroth, therefore no Legion invasion. But the question remains, if that was the case then why didn't Medivh just told Arthas and Jaina to go and rendezvous with Uther so they could take on the Scourge in Quel'Thalas? I mean if Uther and Slyvannas' forces alone could take on the Scourge and defeat it, why send Arthas and Jaina to Kalimdor? It would be pretty much useless if the Legion invasion was not to start anyway, because, in the original lore, Thrall and Jaina were called by Medivh to go to Kalimdor to ally with the Night Elves so together they could defeat Archimonde. Which now in this altered lore would be pretty useless because there would be no revived Kel'Thuzad to summon him in Azeroth in the first place.

@samueliwalker 7 лет назад

the mages didnt help the starvation with magic food because reasons.

@yankochoynev652 7 лет назад

typical mages, never bothering to conjure food for the party

@domehammer 7 лет назад

The mages would need to eat as well. The energy to make the food is in the food. Is a good bit in a Knack book where Rhonin is really hungry. He could go and conjure some food but it would be pointless as eating the conjured food would just give him energy he used to conjure it. Can't just create energy from nothing after all.

@ashren5879 7 лет назад

well technically speaking food was conjured with mana, mana is recharged from the atmosphere; the energy of the planet itself. So it actually was possible..

@ibelus 7 лет назад

I think I read somewhere that conjured food is only temporary sustenance, it doesn't really fill you up in the long-term. Might be wrong though.

@randjan8592 7 лет назад

A Knaak book?! Really?!

@Glyjerify 7 лет назад

I really can't take Nixxiom's voice seriously. I always feel like he's two seconds away from memeing

@galsaa0705 7 лет назад

i know right :)) exactly how i felt throughout the entire video

@Fivespark144 6 лет назад

And then.... fucking malfurion

@borisfrlic 6 лет назад

He's a mega nerd

@StankoAx 5 лет назад

6:55 is pretty close to memeing

@McCereal 5 лет назад

In every video I expect there to be ..." fucking malfurion!"

@stormstrider1990 7 лет назад

Purging Stratholme was the only logical thing to do. Even Uther and Jaina knew it, but refused to accept it. I'd say the biggest mistake Arthas did was going to Northrend after Mal'ganis. The moment he picked up Frostmourne was the moment he turned evil. I agree that even if Arthas hadn't turned evil, Lordaeron would still have fallen. Ner'zhul would have found another champion to pick up Frostmourne and the following events would have played out pretty much like in lore, with the exception that Arthas would have died.

@Numsefisk43 6 лет назад

Not necessarily. Arthas barely made it to the Frozen Throne in time. If he had to wait for someone else, there probably wouldn't have been a Lich King.

@ArthasHastingsMenethil 6 лет назад

yep true and trust me during the Purge.... I'd rather let them die than fall into Mal'ganis hand and also... I wasn't really that wise Paladin like Uther I used to be a Warrior under Muradin's training so I had anger issue so yeah...

@Nereus00 6 лет назад

i don't see why illidan get the gift of redemption but arthas doesn't in the end he also sacrificed himself to defeat the scourge... stupid lore

@rexyz5875 3 года назад

No lich king means undead will freely roam everywhere imagine the mayhem... if you think about it the lich king brings balance by containing the undead

@graddeos Год назад

@@Nereus00 Because Arthas went from a Lawful Good paladin to a Chaotic Evil Death Knight BY CHOICE (being manipulated doesnt diminish the fact that he chose to ignore the curse that Frostmourne would bring), while Illidan has always been a Chaotic Good/Neutral character. I understand that Illidan did some questionable stuff from our PoV, but from his side Illidan has always worked towards defeating the Legion. Its ironic actually. During TBC we went to outland to stop Lord Kazzak's plan of invading Azeroth (after he found a way to reopen the Dark Portal), but after we stopped it, lorewise, we decided to keep exploring Outland to see where the demons were coming from. Now in Outland Illidan was using the Sargerite Keystone to invade legion worlds and obliterate them. One of them was Nathreza ( Dreadlord Planet), where he unleashed so much energy that the planet was reshaped the same way Draenor became Outland. Destroying Nathreza was a serious blow to Kil'Jaeden who sent his legions to lure the Champions of Azeroth to invade Outland and get baited into defeating Illidan. So you see, Illidan was never an evil character. From Warcraft 3 he was Chaotic Good/Neutral with a sole purpose of saving Azeroth, and his beloved Tyrande, from the burning Legion. While being the ruler of outland he never annoyed Azeroth as he promised Malfurion and Tyrande. We however in our ignorance went to his turf and slaughtered him.

@Darkdir 7 лет назад

What if Tyrande chose Illidian instead of Malfurion What if Stonemasons were paid What if Vellen joined Burning Legion.

@vyndalyn9438 6 лет назад

Lukáš Houdek BC wouldn't happen, Onyxia would fail and Varian would have a wife, and we would lose the war of the ancients because velen is as powerful as archimonde and kj

@caramelsoz4272 6 лет назад

If Velen joined the Legion, that meant he would need to undress his silky robes and expose his drooping grandpa titties, because both KJ and Archimonde are bare-chested.

@McCereal 5 лет назад

What if the portal failed to close when those heroes stayed behind the first time, in Outland? What if they were killed before they managed to close it?

@caramelsoz4272 5 лет назад

What if Arthas raped Sylvanas for 3 days straight before killing her and turning her into a banshee? What if Jaina and Thrall made love?

@mryoshiyoshi451 4 года назад

Lukáš Houdek what if Velen joined the Legion instead of Archimonde and Kil’jaeden?

@danielw.8356 7 лет назад

If Arthas married Jania, wouldn't he actually gain a Strong alliance with Kul Tiras, not Dalaran?

@MrMGR1986 6 лет назад

Lord Penguin yes but they were all blind

@martinmillaire5997 6 лет назад

Jaina wasnt well like in kul tiras. She let her father die from fighting orcs. After that, she became quite the eyesore to kul tiras, so she left. (something like that)

@Kaaxe 6 лет назад

I dont think that has happened yet

@Raziieal 6 лет назад

Jaina let fur farther die =fighting orcs way after all this

@TheFlowrider7 6 лет назад

that did not happen here this is before she even met an ork

@98kazer 4 года назад

"What if Arthas Hadn't Turned Evil?" *Got Forcefully turned evil*

@ShadowknightEX 4 года назад

98kazer he was kind of on a slippery slope. Forstmourne definitely played a part in turning him, but he was already doing some stuff not very paladinlike

@98kazer 4 года назад

@@ShadowknightEX just because someone's done something none paladin-like, doesn't mean their already labeled evil. and besides, the video says "what if Arthas hadn't turned Evil?" nothing in the title says: "what if Arthas obeyed the paladin code?"

@ShadowknightEX 4 года назад

98kazer we’ll slaughtering your own people just so they don’t turn into zombies (which didn’t work anyway) isn’t just not paladin like. It’s pretty questionable in general. I am fully aware though that the forces of darkness were working on turning Arthas from the very start though. Malganis and Kel’thuzad were very aware of the Greater plan at work

@98kazer 4 года назад

@@ShadowknightEX | think we misunderstood each other, my comment and previous reply was directed to the Arthas who didn't become evil. yours is directed to Canon Arthas.

@ShadowknightEX 4 года назад

98kazer ahh. I see

@Manualatice 7 лет назад

Strikes me as a bit odd that in this scenario, Terenas kicked the bucket from "stress and old age", whereas in the canon timeline he coped well enough with the news of Stratholme falling, his people turning into zombies, and his son denying his orders to return home/possibly dying on his campaign. If his time simply ran out and he was "fated" to die no matter what, wouldn't the extra bad news from the original timeline speed up that process, not prolong it long enough for him to be reunited with his son?

@mintkasa 7 лет назад

idk after hearing this version, i'm glad arthas purged strathholme

@kombuchas4684 5 лет назад

LOLLLL

@MrOg99 4 года назад

Real talk I agree

@tobyfredson5668 4 года назад

Yes but the only problem was that the entire kingdom fell anyway so i don't really made a difference. He messed everyone up after he became the death night tow I would have to agree this turn of events is much darker in the contex of the story.

@christianpuga9424 4 года назад

@@tobyfredson5668 If arthas hadn't taken up Frostmourne, I don't think the kingdom would've actually fallen. He might die instead when he finally confronts Mal'ganis, or maybe something else would happen, considering Muradin would still be alive if he hadn't taken up Frostmourne let alone choose to find the damn weapon. We'll never know but it's interesting to think about the result.

@EragonShadelayerGR 4 года назад

@@christianpuga9424 Or he could just not go to Northrend. Or he could have returned from Northrend when he was ordered to.

@NinjaKuma 7 лет назад

Then one morning, as Arthas was barely awake, Jaina lunged her dagger through his heart, and as the lift left his eyes, whispered into his ear; "the Dreadlords send their regards".

@Ethox5000 7 лет назад

Well it's speculated that she died in the bombing of Theramore so that doesn't work

@vladdracula8103 7 лет назад

Just Ethan She's a dreadlord

@NinjaKuma 7 лет назад

Prince Vlad! I'm like your biggest fan!

@meto8876 7 лет назад

mate what the "fuk".. she was never a dread lord, adn it's actually explained in one book that she survived Theramore by being pushed in to a portal

@DieGoetterdaemmerung 6 лет назад

If you look at her entire story I think she had a mental breakdown realising that everything she did in her life to achieve peace only led to her personal suffering. She lost Arthas, her Father, Theramore, also Varian whom she as very close friend with. Despite all efforts for peace she was betrayed over and over again by the Horde or at least members of the Horde. Everything she ever did was in vain, every sacrifice she made was for nothing - so becoming bitter and full of hate is actually a quite a human reaction to me and was something her character needed, just look at Thrall - he is still green Jesus to a point where it's unbearable.

@leonardogabriel955 7 лет назад

At least Jaina gets the D in this version

@courtdawg3895 7 лет назад

Leonardo Gabriel She already got the D in the original version

@BlueberryFundip 7 лет назад

Leonardo Gabriel *"Damnit Moon Moon!!"*

@FluidBarber 7 лет назад

Leonardo Gabriel I like how there are 69 likes on this comment, keep it that way LMAO

@pedrolucan4006 7 лет назад

Jaina and Arthas lost their virginity to each other, it's in the Rise of the Lich King novel

@Rozom 6 лет назад

She got the D the very night before. Read the "Arthas" novel.

@RandyOrlok 7 лет назад

what if uther hadnt betrayed arthas before culling of stratholme...

@Shovelchicken 7 лет назад

warchief ultradeath conan barbarian terminator.... That's actually a lot more interesting, when they inevitably travel north, would they have been able to support each other enough to avoid corruption and take out the scourge?

@MrMGR1986 6 лет назад

Jonah Marx absolutely not. Uther would have been corrupted as well. Nerzhul was way too strong

@cadencef7662 7 лет назад

"To quarantine the entire Arthas will take many Arthases. To screen each Arthas for the Arthas's taint will take months, Arthas." Arthas added.

@raphmaster23 4 года назад

Heh Arthas's taint

@Leo-hr6yy 4 года назад

"To Arthas the entire Arthas will take many Arthases. To Arthas each Arthas for the Arthas's Arthas will take Arthas, Arthas." Arthas added.

@dank_smirk9971 7 лет назад

I think I could wield Frostmourne well, the sword would be to busy arguing with the voices in my head to take me over. 🙃

@eagleflies9515 7 лет назад

Why didn't the mages just conjure food?

@domehammer 7 лет назад

Because you can't just create energy. Conjured food takes the energy you get eating it from the mages casting it. The mages would starve.

@aurelius7160 7 лет назад

Joseph Silver they were lvl 1

@domehammer 7 лет назад

***** I imagine it is more something you use if have a font of power to draw from or are a servant making the food for someone else.

@martinmauras6794 7 лет назад

tell me you people are kidding... its a utility spell for the mmo, not an actual lore spell as far as im concerned, mages dont create things from thin air,they manipular energies, not matter in itself, What is funny though, mages can use portals, why not bring food through one

@TrixAreForKicks 7 лет назад

Joseph Silver mages cook it. they dont just poof it to existance

@QuantaSolace 6 лет назад

I'm kinda surprised that the High Elves of Silvermoon weren't mentioned in this alternate timeline. Surely, the two kingdoms could have kept the Scourge at bay and/or discover the Litch King and his Legion masters?

@Terrrawan 7 лет назад

Yay wake up -> look into youtube -> see a new video from Nixxiom -> Happy Thanks Nixxiom for the new Video

@goblinounours 7 лет назад

*Here's a story that could be funny :* What if Illidan somehow never managed to begin his spell with the Eye of Sargeras in the Ruins of Dalaran. Then the Frozen Throne wouldn't have been cracked. Ner'zhul (and by extension, Arthas) wouldn't have been weakened. Sylvanas would still be under the Lich King's control. Arthas and Kel'thuzad could have easily dispatched the Dread lords Varimathras, Detheroc and Balnazzar. They could have finished the Undercity (which *they* began to create, the Forsakens only took over it and finished it). If you look at the city, you'll notice that it was clearly intended to be a flying necropolis. Now imagine the Necropolis rising from the ground, destroying what is left of the Ruins of Lordaeron. Imagine the Scourge of the Lich King flying above the continents of Azeroth inside such mighty unholy ship. How badass would *that* be ?

@Sardavinaenergy 4 года назад

why do you think that Illidan spell helped to awake Nerzul? He tried to destroy and in every way Arthas and Nerzul unite ( it was his plan to have body at least )

@amazingbob1731 7 лет назад

What if jaina wasn't a dread lord

@Monsteretrope 7 лет назад

That would just be too ridiculous!

@miro0120 7 лет назад

AmazingBob Likes Pie then shes just a crazy bitch

@Beatrixacs300 7 лет назад

Then she might be a pawn of the Old Gods ;)

@MrPapamaci88 7 лет назад

THAT would be far more fun.

@chrisarbour 7 лет назад

That's what i honestly think she is now. Not a dreadlord but a pawn of the old gods.

@sapprine4534 6 лет назад

Things you got teribly wrong: 1. Mal'Ganis resided in Stratholme too around that time 2. The Plague and Corruption are both *completly* different things 3. Only grain can spread the plague 4. Kel'Thuzad was allready killed by arthas just outside of Andorhall *weeks* before the situation at stratholme

@sikhjatt23 Год назад

ACKTHUALLY

@Swatman170 7 лет назад

What if Gul'Dan became a Shaman.

@xFlareLeon 4 года назад

I think he'd let the power corrupt him at one point, the elements would leave him, he'd get pissed off and then Mannoroth would be like "hey"

@HPNomad 7 лет назад

Nixxiom! 2:40 is my old RP guild on Moon Guard. Kul Tiras Marine Corps. And the guy named Kurone is my RL friend Nick. I don't know where you got this picture but it made me so happy.

@Dragnmastralex 4 года назад

the culling of Stratholme was one of my favorite missions during the Lich King expansion.

@Dartanius100 7 лет назад

Alexandros can't catch a fucking break. *Canon* - Murdered by Renault. *Theory* - Murdered by Renault. Should have pulled out, Mograine!

@klararotenmayer7186 7 лет назад

What if i never started playing WoW? I would still have a job 😂

@imptastic9019 7 лет назад

ROFL same

@TalosAcephalos 6 лет назад

You poor bastards

@MrMGR1986 6 лет назад

Facepalm

@tychus8219 5 лет назад

But instead.. you just install csgo cheats on friends PC... klara... :D :D

@readerboi6154 7 лет назад

What if My hot pockets weren't Nazi's.

@jeffreyor2000 7 лет назад

Thomas Muehldorf you're mad

@sucker517 7 лет назад

How could you even consider that?

@hunter9188 7 лет назад

There's got to be some other way!!!

@gekkokkid 7 лет назад

then you couldn't Jew with a vengeance...

@lelouche25 7 лет назад

Thomas Muehldorf would not work too much lore break

@thedarkside7508 6 лет назад

Brilliant writing, very engaging to listen to. The end gave me chills, just because your voice acting is SO good! I swear, if you'd write a book or made an audio book, I'd totally buy it. Great job!

@RazanaArcclaw 7 лет назад

nixxiom they knew the bread spread the corruption before going to stratholme he found out far before stratholme that there was plagued food, and found it even more in hearthglen purging stratholme was the best decision a quick painless death for those inside, instead of risking everything also i wouldent consider arthas turning evil at "the purging of stratholme" that was merciful... he whent evil when he decided to chase to northrend.... so good video but i feel its abit lacking on lore (as you seem to make it seem like they dident know about the plague being in the food before going to stratholme) and full of opinions

@kelsey5065 6 лет назад

Felplague I’m glad I’m not the only one who has thought and felt this way. I always agreed with the Culling of Stratholme.

@gorthaur3800 7 лет назад

Why all of your "What if" videos must end badly?

@ViralVenom 7 лет назад

Tealion Wolfheart he's a death knight.

@FellingDragons 7 лет назад

Because fate is not always kind

@smdrobot 7 лет назад

Tealion Wolfheart cause it's Warcraft, and since the first game, it's always been a heavy victory with heavy loss.

@billypeterson2399 7 лет назад

Because he's an agent of the Infinite Dragonflight.

@randjan8592 7 лет назад

"Times change!"

@apexbedsheet3702 7 лет назад

Arthas got dat puuuuuusay

@xavariusquest4603 7 лет назад

The best alternate history you've done. So very entertaining. Thank you.

@General12th 7 лет назад

More What Ifs! These are amazing! :D

@TheHorreK2 7 лет назад

What if Gallywix would have been chosen as Warchief, after Siege of Orgrimmar? :P

@Rizerr96 7 лет назад

He'd build a wall.

@MrRustyCactus 7 лет назад

And make the gnomes pay for it

@WitherDJ 7 лет назад

couldnt say it better

@JacksonJinn 6 лет назад

I mean the Horde's running out of leaders, and I got good odds on Sylvie dropping before Legion's done.

@allanomaly3488 6 лет назад

JacksonJin BFA proves otherwise lmao

@malthair 7 лет назад

Arthas looks superfat at 5:19

@tickoman273 5 лет назад

he ate all the food so peasants had just the disgusting plagued food left, leading to starvation, to them eating everything to them turning undead to the fall of lorderon to arthas dying in the defense. So his excessive eating killed him, and that's the point of this video. :D

@Zeddikuss 5 лет назад

This was so EPIC! Like reading a short story. Love the parallels. Very well done!!

@bluelpgamers8509 7 лет назад

i really have to say i love these "alternate Warcraft" storys keep up the good work!

@araxamasterimidias2522 7 лет назад

+Nixxiom You forgot to think about if the other nations in the Alliance could support Lordaeron. Gilneas, Stromgarde, Kul'Tiras, Stormwind and maybe even the remains of Alterac could have sent aid and maybe formed another Alliance of Lordaeron against the Scourge. Also, Hearthglen and Tyr's Hand didn't fall to the Scourge originally but in your maps appear overrun. Maybe these keeps could have held out and acted as points for survivors and where the nation could launch attacks?. Andorhal could have been taken back as Uther had done before his death, The House of Barov (Caer Darrow) may not have been persuaded to defect now that Arthas hadn't turned over. The High Elves of the North could have lent their aid in assisting the Humans in detecting the plague, and worked in conjunction with the Kirin Tor to create the Undead-Harming Magic that the Kirin Tor had created in WC3 during Dalaran's Siege. But this is all just my opinion, if Arthas had chosen to do a quarantine instead, I think the Scourge wouldn't have had a chance, problem is, Ner'Zul had the ability to see future events, and so his plans were fool-proof to succeed.

@arnoldshpitz1030 7 лет назад

Nice to see you arax

@jacktheman7489 7 лет назад

Ye boi.

@fildariusv7045 7 лет назад

Araxamas Terimidias well actually Gilneas won't help

@jacktheman7489 7 лет назад

Gilneas wouldn't do anything for Lordaeron itself but they'd still be aware of the undead plague

@DominionSorcerer 7 лет назад

Stormwind would most definately have sent aid to Lordaeron, as would Kul'Tiras, as Arthas' marriage to Jaina would for all intents and purposes have secured an alliance between the two kingdoms rather than securing more aid from the mages of Dalaran. But Gilneas was walled off, Alterac in ruins, and Stromgarde was busy with the events that would eventually lead to Thoras' assassination at the hands of Galen. Quel'Thalas was just about as walled off as Gilneas without a literal wall at their border, and they barely paid any attention to anything happening in Lordaeron, except for the priests they sent early on in the Warcraft 3 campaign to research the so called rumours of a plague, and the House of Barov had already joined the Cult of the Damned long before Arthas even considered sailing to Northrend. So all in all, while Lordaeron would definately have held out longer, it would have fallen sooner or later. And I personally doubt quarantining Stratholme would never have been fully succesfull unless he had planned for it in advance before going there, so Lordaeron would eventually have to face an army of undead made up from the population of one of its largest cities.

@KingCarva 7 лет назад

would arthas go all ebon blade tho? geez i think this alternate history could have a part two. what about the elves? would the undead move south? would dalaran fall? I NEED PART TWO DANGIT

@lore9395 7 лет назад

Well, damn! That was pretty engrossing tale-weaving. You really should continue with a part 2.

@mancamiatipoola 7 лет назад

And this is why i love Nixxion! You sir are a remarkable story teller. Thank you for your contribution to the Warcraft universe!

@Kraquerman 7 лет назад

Then perhaps the Falcons would've won the Super Bowl... nah

@sucker517 7 лет назад

Are you mad

@MeanOldLady 7 лет назад

No one gives a shit. It's the same damned sports game that happens every year by assholes who are way overpaid.

@kdvn1 7 лет назад

Lord Birdwood preach! way overpaid 😬

@jackdubs25 7 лет назад

Actually lots of people give a shit M Salvaresh

@eutrophiabarton7456 6 лет назад

Lord Birdwood hahah lol! Tooo soon

@paolovital3751 7 лет назад

that pic during 5:27 was from a wc3 custom map called "The Scourge of Lordaeron Enhanced" right?

@hashiramasenju3246 7 лет назад

Really thoroughly enjoying these. Please never stop, this stuff makes my inner geek happy

@maxenmontclair5707 Год назад

That's one of my screenshots on Moon Guard from back in 2010 at 2:39! The guilds present are... We held a RP campaign to retake Andorhal in RP-PvE!

@emeraldcrusade5016 7 лет назад

So maybe Arthas was right after all to purge Strathome....................................... goddammit uther!

@Sxinx_ 7 лет назад

Isnt this already wrong? Basically instantly Mal'ganis or some other dreadlord shows up and starts teleporting the plague ridden citizens to where ever they are taken. So considering that wouldnt Mal'ganis have already taken the citizens before uther and arthas could help the citizens. I might be wrong since it has been awhile since warcraft 3 but im just asking.

@Marconius6 4 года назад

I guess the Elves were just chilling this whole time? Thanks, Sylvanas.

@williamp.5253 6 лет назад

Absolute top quality. I enjoyed watching this very much. Thank you for making it.

@pravian3 7 лет назад

I think this is your best alternative history video you've ever made.

@lordedge9068 7 лет назад

The people were better off with Ranauld than with Arthas, since the exact same events occurred, but Uther lived, the high elves never became the blood elves, and Jaina had a child

@alphasquadleaderb9859 7 лет назад

Bomb_Boy567 and you wouldnt even know who is that sluty ranger general.

@Aerophina 7 лет назад

Love these types of videos. I do believe that the purging of Strathome was justified. Although if it wasn't Arthas it would've been someone else to take Frostmourne. If only they could've purged Stratholme and left it at that.

@sirbillius 7 лет назад

I would also love it if later down the line Arthas takes Darion's place as Highlord of the Ebon Blade.

@k01dsv 7 лет назад

Didn't the aspect of time already cover this? Arthas doesn't become the Lich King. We never discover Yog Saron. We all die, because Yoggy gets too massive :) Pretty sure that's why the Culling of Stratholme instance exist :D

@marajade2224 7 лет назад

So.... in other words...... arthas = prevents world collapse.

@thehermit8723 7 лет назад

Uther will be an interesting add, but you left out Antonidas Nixxiom. After seeing all this destruction he would believe Medivh's warning and joined them to the journey to Kalimdor.

@Marshmallowcookie 5 лет назад

I honestly love this "what if" situation and what you thought would happen but I think you forgot about Jaina being the daughter of Grand Admiral Daelin Proudmoore. Sure he showed up late, but he chased after her. And seeing as they didn't flee to Kalimdor his forces would instead land on the shores of Lordaeron, sending the might of kul tiras seeing as his daughter is now Queen of Lordaeron. But still great

@lpitkootkek1583 7 лет назад

If Arthas never turned evil that epic Cinematic at the end of every ICC Raid and the epic line of his Father would have never existed.

@dumeei 7 лет назад

doesn't really matter that much, and tbh having arthas restoring lordaeron instead of that banshee bitch would be more pleasant to my eyes.

@MaryJane-wk1ni 7 лет назад

Straight up. Lordaeron is the best kingdom and it sucks Banshee bitch sits on the throne and Arthas's sister is too priesty to even want to take it back.

@alphasquadleaderb9859 7 лет назад

Akhilesh P totaly agree. I wouldve rather seen her in Hell with Arthas. Arthas rules!

@alphasquadleaderb9859 7 лет назад

Dank Memes #makeLordearongreatagain

@EasyTecTalk 6 лет назад

Mary Jane and now Calia is dead and risen in undeath by alonsus and anduin

@Necroionutwiz 7 лет назад

.....I don't see Tirion Fordring anywhere ....

@caboose.20 7 лет назад

Necro Katalinsky and why would he? was exiled after the Second War

@Necroionutwiz 7 лет назад

I see

@legend131000 7 лет назад

Darion aswell.

@Necroionutwiz 7 лет назад

LegenDarius13 they were slacking off dont worry

@bruhfunnies3441 6 лет назад

Ionut Catalin It's because he was holding a grim destiny in his hands. But it was not his own.

@auryn7755 7 лет назад

YES, ANOTHER ONE KEEP FUCKING MAKING THESE Edit, just finished watching: Holy fuck that ending was fucking amazing, this, is fucking amazing, you, are fucking amazing Nixxiom!

@BenjtheMan 7 лет назад

F***! It's eerie how your alternate endings are so plausible!

@samuellanda9139 7 лет назад

I really like nixxioms storytelling voice :D

@horner385 7 лет назад

Well I wouldn't have my Troll DK

@rainbo1475 7 лет назад

My favorite kind of alternate timeline stories are ones that hold the idea of "destiny". Where the details may shift but the outcome will always be the same, as it was meant to be. Great job Nixxiom!

@bstriant 7 лет назад

Amazing story of what could be. It just shows even more how tragic Arthas' fate was.

@alimirza2973 7 лет назад

that story had many problems

@jaycevdeva3632 7 лет назад

This would have made a much more interesting expansion than "bla bla something something of Draenor".

@BobbleWorld 6 лет назад

I'd love to see an alternate history expansion based around this idea, it'd be rad to see and would make the Caverns of Time much more relevant to the game.

@williamsmith6324 Год назад

Guards at the screenings: Your clean, your clean move along, you're cle-wait a moment sir. Um sir come with us over here to this "magical cleansing booth" We'll deal with you shortly.

@bremwynn9090 7 лет назад

You didn't mention Quel'Thalas at all?

@mave13th 7 лет назад

These Alternate Warcraft stories are really good for sleeping

@Gunz12121212 7 лет назад

I can really tell you want to be an author, I really like your writing! You form a really vivid picture in my mind, good job!

@Nethros 7 лет назад

...Excellent storytelling matey. The last words were haunting.

@truetothefayth9611 7 лет назад

Please do a part 2 soon

@makaramuss 7 лет назад

Story makes sense but what you did is ... ugh... same thing? I mean we know it allready since medivh told it . You were supposed to make arthas lead his people to kalimdor Story was supposed to be "what if arthas listened medivh"

@calendil 5 лет назад

Renault said: "I ain't no fear no curse!"

@94Lich 7 лет назад

Good storytelling I enjoyed it very much. Keep it up Nixx!

@kxox7233 7 лет назад

What if eredars never accpeted fel pact?

@patrickbuckley7259 7 лет назад

Why is it that I find this more interesting than Arthas's actual story?

@brunoandrespadillanavarro8923 6 лет назад

Patrick Buckley arthas story contained until frozen throne is interesting... in WoW just becomes another final boss to gang up and kill... because in WoW they just kinda develope good guys

@chrisseger2346 5 лет назад

@@brunoandrespadillanavarro8923 I don't think they expected this sort of longevity. I'm willing to bet some of the original members, what little there are at least, really regret killing off some of those cooler antagonists so early on. They did bring Illidan back... Only to technically kill him off again, but as an anti-hero. Blizz doesn't seem to have any qualms over retconning their own material, maybe we'll see Arthas again in retail. I'm sure he'd be a total crap character in a total crap plot, because WoW is now total crap, but I'd prefer seeing him again over whatever new crap they crap out. Crap.

@mrcteddy20 4 года назад

Random thought but I think Nixxiom would be a good Dungeons and Dragons DM, being able to tell a good story and such, definitely would like to see cameos like Moo Cluck and the Level 58 DK.

@Bravebird9 7 лет назад

Darn you death knight soothing my enraged heart with your sweet dulcet voice.

@blackheavymetalman 7 лет назад

as some one who dont even know the original lore. is this entire video an alternate universe or does it start with canon and diverge later?

@gatrien7617 7 лет назад

It starts to become Fanon at Stratholme. In lore, Arthas wanted to purge the city. Half his forces, Uther, and Jaina all left him after that. After culling Stratholme, Arthas took Lordaeron's fleet to Northrend where he found Frostmourne, Killed Mal'Ganis, betrayed his men, and then returned to Lordaeron to kill his dad and bring about the Fall of Lordaeron. (There's more to it, but I recommend reading "Arthas: Rise of the Lich King" for his story. Written by Christie Golden, it's an amazing read.

@blackheavymetalman 7 лет назад

Beredric i will look into that. thank you

@TrixAreForKicks 7 лет назад

what if jaina did get pragnent after thier one nighter

@redgokudera 6 лет назад

"The Bastard of Lordaeron" Sounds sick

@mirorih2TheTrueFinnmarkWierdo 7 лет назад

Right after I wake up, this is published. Thanks, Nixxiom. Your videos is one of the best for waking up^^ Aaaand the video is over. I want to hear more of your voice, good Nixxiom :(

@General12th 7 лет назад

Just watch all his alternate videos in a playlist!

@greenelf444 7 лет назад

I feel like uther would have stayed and help lead the people while arthas trying to bring hope to his people would ride south planning to help forge the unnamed sword and that the Kirin tor and high elves would help keep the areas around the eastern borders of lordaeron safe after seeing all the damage that had been done to the area. It seems like a very long time passes before the fall of lordaeron in the scenario and that opens up chances for other races and factions to help. But still loved it like all your other theories

@LinkLich 7 лет назад

meanwhile mal'ganis is......................

@imptastic9019 7 лет назад

yay, I can go to sleep listening to your voice :3

@ChrisWood808 6 лет назад

My god man, that was brilliant. RU-vid just kinda auto played ya.. great story.. i need MORE

@soulkillareaper3253 7 лет назад

nixxiom i love your story telling, mainly because of your voice. not only is it relaxing but it makes it seem so real. you should really replace nobbles job and speak some really lore to us!!

@lsdcat2016 7 лет назад

His lore is so awesome and interesting. Don't ruin this for me. :x

@jasonvoorhees8542 7 лет назад

Solution:Have Mages in the HUNDREDS go into Stratholme. Solution 2:Make conjured food and water. 3:PROFIT.

@williamcortelyou9072 7 месяцев назад

There is an old WC3 map that actually had an amazing what if storyline scenario. It was a lot kinda map, about what if the orcs won the second war. Gul'Dan is the replacement undead lord, having successfully gotten the eye of sargaras, Thrall rules the rules one of the sacked kingdoms, going by Goel or something, the legion is pissed, and needs the remnants of the dark horde to summon them, and Arthas is fighting Guldan in Lorderon area. GulDan owns quelthalas, and sylvanas is a refuge along with the elf's. If arthas and sylvanas both get to lvl 8 they get married and get a huge buff when close to each other. The game was very well done. I think it's called Glory of the Horde?

@skaguls 6 лет назад

Wonderfully told, I wish you would narrate entire books.

@GrandPaladinTyrux 7 лет назад

good shit

@Kairos_Akuma 7 лет назад

What I dont and probably never understand is the fact: "There is a Blade....its Powerful, lets take it." "Dude....this thing is cursed..." "Lets take it anways." why not like "Its cursed....lets pick it up with cloth or something like that so it cant touch us"

@tronn333 6 лет назад

Arthas wore gloves, and that didn't really help

@seanxi 6 лет назад

Legendary weapons are soul bound.

@RRRanTVPianoMusic 6 лет назад

so they are bound to the one who placed the weapon there?

@-Morde 7 лет назад

hell yeah, i love these alternate reality videos.

@princearthasmenethil1525 5 лет назад

You are much more serious in this video than the others. Brilliant work I really enjoyed it!

@viniciussbenz4301 7 лет назад

Instead of purging the city, they just could have asked who ate the bread and who didn't

@badfoody 7 лет назад

Darth Vin lol will you admit you did it? knowing theyd kill you?

@subratafreelancewriter8504 6 лет назад

there is no need to tell them. Just tell them they need medication and take them somewhere else where you can kill them. This however can lead to a civil unrest though .