The fact that this story didn't focus on Goku and Vegeta is what made it so much better to me, personally. Absolutely fantastic work! It was amazing to see the other characters have their moment and shine, especially Uub.
This story feels a whole lot more fleshed out than other what if stories I've seen, and definitely could be seen as canonical if this were to happen after GT imo.
@@NicLennartz14 Yeah, that's the one of the problems in this what if. There are probably more that we have yet to think of, but Goku Black being able to go ssj5 immediately is a glaring problem.
@@WrathfulSaiyan keep up the good work my man! i used to only watch smugstick, saladsaiyan, and techstarr, because most other youtubers would make unrealistic videos, but all of yours that i’ve seen have been very entertaining and i could see them as canon. great job 🫶
@@WrathfulSaiyan : I did thank you. Though I've been thinking about it Scenarios were Goku was influenced by the red ribbon army, ( Abducted, android, experiment) All those had been done before. However , there is one particularly way it has Never been done before: What-if Goku Willingly joined the Red Ribbon Army; Rise of the Red Ribbon Sayian ( the Red Ribbon Army created the Dragon Ball radar 1st, both Colonel Violet & Silver meet Goku while looking for the dragon balls and convince him to join them. Goku is titled Captain Orange: has Crane School & military training , became a poster boy that rose Commander Red 's self-esteem enough to plan for a different wish on the Dragon Ball, grows a friendship with Eightyer ,Silver, Gevo (Human 16), Vomi (Human 21) ,Violet & Launch. And Maybe Kakarot x Ranfan)
@@TrueLight-zr8ou Thats your own headcannon, dont base your powerscaling on db heroes, its not canon Realisticly ssj4 is posible like ssg but since we dont know we cant say
As someone who thought SSJ5 was like the coolest thing ever as a kid, as well as someone who has never really liked Beerus, that thumbnail goes SO hard
Very nice what if man, a what if idea i got is : What if dragonball AF happened instead of Db super? I feel like exploring the story of Xicor would lead to an amazing what if and you could customize to your future original ideas.
@@WrathfulSaiyan That's not what you had said however, you said they wished for the SSG then utilized the ritual turning Vegeta SSG. Goku isn't around for this ritual/ceremony therefor doesn't receive the prerequisite to obtain it as per cannon rules.
I would like to add some what if suggestions to your list! Your what ifs are great so i wanna suggest some 1. What if EX Fusion from Dragon ball Fusions was Cannon 2. What If Goku had mahoragas adaptability 3. What If Goku Was Half Kryptonian 5. What If Goku Had Friezas Potential 6. What If Goku Stayed In SSG 7. What If Goku Broke His limits 8. What If Goku Achieved SS4 in Cell Saga 9. What If Goku Was a Genus 10. What If Goku Was the Lssj 11. What if goku mastered SSJ3 12. What if goku mastered Kaioken 13. What if goku was immortal 14. What if goku got super zenkais 15. What if vegito was Permanent 16. What if gogeta was permanent 17. What if Gogeta and Vegito were born instead of Goku and vegeta 18. What if goku was majin buus reincarnation (instead of buu getting sealed he dies and gets reincarnated) 19. what if goku fused with porunga instead of shenron in Gt ( this could branch into AF or Super your choice) 20. What if goku had infinite stamina and ki 21. What if goku and kakarott split 22. What if goku attained SSJ5 from the god ritual in BOG (SSJ6 could be introduced in a what if and further) 23. what if goku stayed evil 24. What if goku took over as GOD in BOG 25. What if goku learned ultra ego 26. What if goku learned magic I dont know if you will do any of these but if you will that would be really nice these are some well thought out ideas! Your what ifs are awesome even for a small youtuber. I have been subscribed on my main account since the start ❣❣
Some of these are interesting but most of them are power fantasies because what's fun in what if Goku had infinite ki and stamina and the mahoraga's adaptability is just dumb aswell as the buu reincarnation one
Honestly, I'm only disappointed that we didn't get to see Fused Trunks as that would've been a nice way to show off how much the two Trunks had bonded. Other than that a great story.
you know at the end of GT there'd be way way stronger than super you know from Omega shenron existing the little universe was shaking you know if Omega shinwon didn't die the universe would have ended because of his power that's how strong they were
Aye @@WrathfulSaiyan i have a question: i'm kinda confused about Super Broly appearing in this what if scenario, i mean, isn't Z Broly Canon to the GT? Or is there 2 Broly's in this what if story? Btw, that still was an awesome what if story!
@@MekeTrefe-gy3fp i dont think any of the movies are canon to gt i might be wrong tho and im about to watch the video so im too lazy to fact check the claim
@@WrathfulSaiyan one of the best what if I've watched and I've seen some that kept me glued from beginning to end its not often that happens and yours did that for me so I tip my hat off to you
I'm at the point were freiza and cell are revived and im imagining *Frieza and cell stepping off a ship and demanding to know were is Goku* Krillin: look we don't know were he is he could be dead Cell: you mean to tell me we were revived just just for Goku to be possibly dead? Krillin: yep *Krillin gets kicked and almost dies* *Krillin owed counter counts to 40* krillin: oh COME ON (If someone wants I'll continue this some kind of Parel timeline*
@@WrathfulSaiyan imma be honest, the things i didnt like were the mixed transformations and the part where Majuub beat Moro in his best form (when he was equal to blue)
New sub here, you've got lots of potential m8! you need a more signature and slower-paced background song tho, something for the background during conversations. This is straight battle music. Love what you're doing!
In my head cannon I always imagined a conversation between Trunks and Vegeta. Trunks: Hey Dad, am I stronger than you? Vegeta: Ha! What makes you think that? Trunks: Well, you worked really hard, and trained for a really long time to achieve that form with the blue hair. Vegeta: That form is Super Saiyan God Blue. It is incredibly powerful. Trunks: Yeah, well mom was talking something about s cells the other day and how half saiyans have more potential. I can already do Super Saiyan 3, plus I already have blue hair, so....😂
A few what if suggestions: 1) what if the super saiyan forms were evolutions instead of transformations, so like if goku got SS that's his new base and so forth? 2) what if goku were born in U6? 3) what goku and turles were twins?
3. No big deal cause well it's no different than goku and eaditz unless they're both sent to earth. But to make it fair turles should have same pl as goku. Or near it
@@WrathfulSaiyan I know you could do it, and to make a twist to it, to the u6 goku story that is, make him be the only saiyan born with a tail which hasn't been seen in many years, like a recessive trait or something
Man last part vould have gone different like how most of granolah arc went and goku could have remembered the Saiyans and it cluld have gone different. I want a remake of last one 😭 Tbh I like granolah
What If Cell Wasn't Evil?, What If Chichi Had Beast Mode (Ft Chichi Black), What If Future Trunks Found Namek?, What If Bardock Escaped To Vampa?, What If Dragonballs Couldn't Bring Back The Dead?, What If Goku Replaced Beerus As God Of Destruction, What If Vegeta Replaced Beerus As God Of Destruction, What If Buu Was Never Evil?, What If Gokus Pod Was Sent To The Galactic Patrol?(Ft Earth Broly And Paragus), What If Earthling Discovered Gravity Training In Og Dragonball?, What If Videl Never Stopped Training? (Insane Potential Pan), What If Hercule Started Training With Gohan And Videl? , What If Cooler Was Beerus Apprentice Destroyer? What If King Cold Never Discovered Planet Vegeta? ,What If Frieza Raised Broly?, What If Raditz Was An Elite Saiyan?, What If Goku And Raditz Were Born As Elite Saiyans?
Honestly all of this would've been more interesting if Goku had stayed gone, there's some points I don't think make much sense, but bringing Goku back really takes away from potential narrative.
Real, and I think it would’ve been more interesting if the ssj god ritual just didn’t happen, with some people going the ssj4 route and sole fighters figuring out god ki
@@WrathfulSaiyan I don't see how when Vegeta can fulfill his role just fine, as was literally what Vegeta's role was at the end of GT. This undermines that point a lot, I think. Goku passed that guardian of Earth torch to Vegeta for a reason.
Bro you should have let Goku master his jltra instinct with the grand priest and not only that , Goku should have combined his mastered ultra instinct with ssj 5, surpassing Whis.
This was extremely good! How about being that Goku is so powerful that he spars with Daishinkan and thinks he no longer is needed as a protector (which is a ridiculous mindset, now having knowledge of the multiverse and other dimensions that can harbor threats), that he spends his life in the Dragon Dimension or visiting The Omni King by also including his wife Chi-Chi by easily having her restored to the prime of her youth eternally and made immortal ( Dragons in there realm, Grand Priest. Super Dragon Ball wish etc.. ..), and spend his ageless eternally" retired" status with his #1 supporter that he neglected, abandoned and left with no provisions ( never taking on the responsibilities of a man, husband or father)?!? If he can become so Broken & OP that he can't participate in The Tournament of Power, he should use this time to not just spend with Chi-Chi, but also visit and resurrect Raditz, Bardock and Gine!! IJS 🤷🏿♂️
@@WrathfulSaiyan np man this one was really enjoyable to listen too love the scenario choices and everything only thing I would of done was keep ssj5 and ui separate but who am I to judge or say anything anyways keep up the good work
Ssj4 is stronger then ssjblue espicially in this what if since ssj4 would get boosted by ssjgod by millions because in BoG goku wasn't confident to a hypothetical ssj3 vegeto ti beat beerus but when he got a false god ritual he was sure of it then he got a full ritual so ssjgod is millions of time multiplier like 10 to 20 million time multiplier ssj4 at first would be the combination of the great ape and the maximum normal ssj saiyans have accessed to so golden great ape is 4k multiplier and goku was destroy baby Vegeta 2 who was demolishing ssj3 goku in his quote in quote base and golden great ape vegeta got 1000x more blutz wave then normal so golden great ape baby vegeta is 1000 stronger then ssj3 since vegeta should be able to have accessed to that now I cant fully explain how ssj4 full multiplier is but go to official divine for more indepth of ssj4
your plan was to get another subscriber?? it worked... also i leave this idea: what if frieza was sent to earth?? (the idea is king cold gets overthrown by another member of the family(you know who) and he sends frieza as far away as he can to save him, of course goku would arrive too later on)
How would goku and freiza come back with the dragon ball if they died in hell. Cause goku told vegeta in the buu ark if he was destroyed while he’s already dead he couldn’t be brought back and ceased to exist .
If goku obtain two transformations above super sayian 4 how come in this this what if he was only showing super sayian 5 and not the form above it and what was the second form goku obtained after super sayian 5 and why didn’t he use it It in the fight against beerus in the granola arc in this what if weren’t they in safer reality reveal that power above super sayian 5 34:29 1:11:38
vegeta cant get a dub even in an what if yall killing me with this shit this hate is unreal they clashed and bro went flying nad how did they not pass jiren yet i call bull shit
correct me if im wrong but if goku shook entire universe clashing with beerus in god form, 10 year time skip vegeta's base power should be billions trillions times larger then that of a goku, and that entices a question of why didnt SSGSSJ4 vegeta with a massive base power boost didnt just overwhelm beerus's suppressed power? Vegeta is not goku, he doesnt suppress his power, he goes all out from the start. Beerus should ne WAAAAAY more strained and WAYYY more impressed by vegeta's power
It’s hard to power scale gt, I mean no doubt they would be stronger than everyone at the start of super cause of the time skip but during those years it was peaceful until the events of gt so I don’t see them getting that much stronger during those years
- What If Goku Can Adapt Like Mahoraga - What If Goku Was Half Kryptonian - What If Goku Had Timeskip - What If Goku Had Friezas Potential - What If Goku Stayed In SSG - What If Goku Broke His limiter (Saitama) - What If Goku Achieved SS4 in Cell Saga - What If Goku Was Intellectual - What If Goku Was Lssj
What if Vegeta was Black? I MEANT LIKE A VEGETA BLACK INSTEAD OF KAKAROT!!! I realized how bad the title sounds... I think Kakarot is rubbing off on me.
it is not funny at all. all of you have started changing the english language and repeat the same illiterate pronouncements, the fucking verb is ASK NOT AXE,same with other words. so axes him her etc. is asks him or her. the ''ALL OF YOU" is even for famous persons rappers,actors,tv personas,etc. i do not enjoy this thing!it gets on my nervs. this way all of you going about the language it will only result to a Babel tower.do you understand? and it is not even my language. but this is a global phenomenon!do you know who haven't changed their language? my language has changed more of every other in the world.and my language 🇬🇷 is the 2/3 of english. it may seem funny but it is not at all. so articulate the words properly. the only thing i acknowledge about you and credit to you is that you replied,but i want to see now if you are able to answer the serious question i posed in this message. this is geopolitics,culture and way of thinking referring. so do not think is simple or i do it to cause frustration to you,but to save the generations that are and will be. i want you to understand this.
@whateverwhatever4476 keep axing (not asking) yourselves why you talk like this and what the implications are...and if correcting someone is being toxic fine. better be toxic rather than speaking like an illiterate person pronouncing words the wrong way and to top it all off being a woke cult mushroom. happy?
