@@WrathfulSaiyan Goku shouldn't unlock ssj4 so early it doesn't make sense. He also shouldn't have mystic considering he isn't a half Saiyan that form would be useless. You should have had them master ssj3 then Goku get his potential unlocked which he would never want because he would feel like he didn't achieve the power on his own but that should give him ssj4. It should be only a unique transformation to him. Goku should be leagues above Vegeta considering ssb us just ssj and ssg combined ssj4 with ssg is far above ssb.
it's great, though i have two early notes. 1. when they trained for the sayian saga they trained way harder under kami than goku ever did, i doubt they'd do that now. 2. kami never knew he was a namek, he didn't know where he came from as it was long forgotten. great vid tho
1. They did that mainly cause of Goku motivating them to push past their limit. 2. Kami learned about being an namekian when he read the mind of raditz. That’s how he learned about his ppl. Glad you enjoyed the series still :))
@@WrathfulSaiyanI also want to add that when they train to become the super saiyan, he words it as if they know it's a transformation when in reality they don't know what the legendary super saiyan is. But overall, I love the video, keep going 👍
I remember seeing the first 2 videos and I thought the idea was great, then I forgot what it was, now I can watch the entire thing without having to wait
For a first series, it's quite good. A lot less scuff than you'd usually see from early works, but also still a lot of room to grow as both a writer and narrator. Keep up the good work, and I look forward to your future ideas.
Your one of the best what if RU-vid I’ve seen keep it up man you have alot of potential your prob gonna have 1m subs in the span of 3 months I think keep it up 👍
In this what-if scenario, Goku never stops training, leading to the Z-Fighters becoming significantly stronger. They defeat various threats, including Buu and Moro, with Goku and Vegeta achieving mastery over Ultra Instinct. The story explores an alternate timeline where the characters' growth and experiences differ from the original Dragon Ball Z narrative. Key moments: 00:00 The video script explores an alternate storyline where Goku never stops training, leading to increased power levels and preparation for upcoming threats, including a confrontation with the Saiyans and Frieza. -Goku's decision to continue training after defeating Piccolo Jr. leads to significant power growth and the discovery of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. -The Z Fighters, including Piccolo and Tien, undergo intense training over four years, resulting in substantial power level increases before the Saiyans' arrival. -Piccolo's efforts to recruit Raditz and train him to join their side against Frieza showcase strategic planning and alliances in preparation for upcoming battles. 08:03 The fighters train hard to defeat Frieza. Goku and Vegeta achieve Super Saiyan form. Piccolo fuses with Kami for a power boost, and the Z fighters prepare to face Frieza's army. -Goku and Vegeta achieve the Super Saiyan form after intense training, impressing everyone with their rapid growth. -Piccolo fuses with Kami, gaining a significant power boost, while the Z fighters train to increase their strength and power levels. -The Z fighters prepare to face Frieza's army on the Frieza Planet, strategizing and setting power levels to confront the upcoming challenges. 16:06 Gohan defeats Goldo and the Ginyu Force single-handedly, impressing Vegeta. Vegeta battles Frieza, surpasses him, and ultimately defeats him with a powerful attack, leading to plans to face King Cold. -Gohan's impressive display of power against Goldo and the Ginyu Force showcases his strength and potential as a warrior. Vegeta's desire to fight Frieza alone and his eventual triumph highlights his determination and strength. -The escalating battle between Vegeta and Frieza, culminating in Vegeta's overpowering victory, sets the stage for future confrontations with King Cold. Vegeta's strategic approach and power play a crucial role in defeating Frieza. -The introduction of Androids 16, 17, and 18 adds a new threat to the Z Fighters, leading to a decision to train in the time chamber. Trunks' arrival and revelation about the future timeline bring a sense of urgency and foreboding to the group. 24:10 The video script covers the story of Trunks training with Z Fighters to defeat the Androids, leading to a time skip where the fighters continue training and Goku achieves a new Super Saiyan 4 form. -Trunks joins Z Fighters to train and stop the Androids, enhancing their strength and teamwork. -Z Fighters continue training during a 10-year time skip, with Goku, Vegeta, and Raditz achieving Super Saiyan 3 and exploring new transformations. -Goku unveils a new form, Super Saiyan 4, during a World Tournament where the Z Fighters face a new threat in the form of Buu's emergence. 32:13 Goku faces off against Buu with the help of other fighters, leading to Buu splitting into two parts. Goten and Trunks successfully fuse into Gotenks to battle Buu, eventually erasing him with a powerful attack. -Gohan struggles to transform into a Super Saiyan and undergoes intense training to catch up with Vegeta and achieve Super Saiyan 4, motivated by his relationship with Erasa. -Goku learns Instant Transmission and breaks the Z sword, freeing Elder Kai. Elder Kai helps Goku unlock his potential, leading to a new form and the discovery of God ki. -Beerus arrives to challenge Goku, showcasing his immense power and overwhelming Goku in a fight. Goku's training with Elder Kai reveals his potential with God ki. 40:15 The Saiyans train and unlock new powerful forms to fight Beerus. Vegeta becomes a Super Saiyan God, Goku achieves Super Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker, and Gohan aims for the Limit Breaker form. -Shenron explains the Super Saiyan God ritual and origin, leading to Vegeta becoming the Super Saiyan God. -Goku arrives with a new form, Super Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker, impressing everyone and joining Vegeta to fight Beerus. -The Saiyans continue training, with Gohan aiming for the Limit Breaker form, while the Z Fighters seek to improve their strength inspired by the Saiyans' power. 48:18 Goku teaches Cabba to transform into a Super Saiyan, leading to a friendly match where Cabba unleashes his power, impressing Goku and motivating him to train harder, eventually defeating Hit with a new form. -Cabba learns to transform into a Super Saiyan with Goku's guidance, showcasing his potential and determination in a friendly match. -Goku is impressed by Cabba's progress and decides to train harder after defeating Hit with a new form, breaking the time skip barrier. -Vegeta and Trunks train to become stronger, obtaining Super Saiyan 3 form, while Gohan focuses on becoming a scholar in the future timeline. 56:21 Vegeta and Broly train under Whis, achieve Super Saiyan Blue and Evolution forms, and join Universe 7 team for a tournament. Future Gohan meets alternate self, trains, and participates in sparring matches, leading to a peaceful future timeline. -Vegeta and Broly's training under Whis leads to obtaining powerful forms, preparing them for Universe 7 team participation in a tournament. -Future Gohan's interactions with alternate self, training, and sparring matches contribute to a harmonious future timeline with a focus on personal growth and gratitude. 1:04:24 Goku, Vegeta, and Hit struggle against Jiren, leading Goku to unleash his mastered Ultra Instinct state, easily defeating Jiren and winning the tournament, restoring the other universes with a wish. -Struggle against powerful opponents like Jiren showcases the need for teamwork and strategic planning in intense battles. -The concept of power escalation and transformation limitations add complexity and challenges to the characters' fighting capabilities. -Introduction of new antagonist Moro tests the Saiyans' strength and unity, leading to a desperate struggle against a formidable foe. 1:12:28 The final battle against Moro ends with Goku mastering Ultra Instinct, overpowering Moro, and erasing him, bringing peace to the universe. Vegeta and Broly also prepare for their own power-ups, setting the stage for future battles. -Training and power-ups of Goku, Vegeta, and Broly lead to the defeat of Moro, showcasing their growth and teamwork. -Introduction of Granola's storyline and his desire to become the strongest in the universe, setting up a new conflict for the future. 1:20:30 The intense battle between Broly and Granola escalates, with Broly unlocking his Ultra Ego form, making him a formidable opponent. Vegeta surprises everyone with his new Beast transformation, aiding in defeating Gas and showcasing his immense power. -Broly's power escalates with his Ultra Ego form, making him a significant threat to Granola. -Vegeta's unexpected Beast transformation proves crucial in defeating Gas and displaying his newfound strength. 1:28:32 Gohan transforms into Super Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker form, defeats Cell, and saves the day, showcasing his new power and ending the threat. -The significance of Gohan's new form and power in defeating Cell, bringing an end to the threat and earning praise from others. -The aftermath of the battle, with characters reflecting on their actions, seeking forgiveness, and planning for future threats. -A subplot involving a hand-to-hand battle between Goku, Vegeta, and Broly on 's Planet, resulting in a different outcome from the original story. Generated by sider.ai( a summary for nerds)
love the videos so far. subbed at 4k subs. will be along for the ride just a couple tips to get to the Salad or Smugstick level: 1. communicate with the community(you’re good at it now just keep it up) 2. keep the what-if ideas subtle like you have; focus on the story being different to the original/let there be different relationships, friendships, deaths, etc. 3. last tip i can think of would be, compare the changes in the what if to the original timeline. show the difference in power, character development, motivations, etc.
I wish that Napa was in the story more. I feel like he could’ve actually became really stronger, and even if his age was catching up to him, he could easily have used the dragon balls and pulled a bulma go back into his prime imagine him with the ultra ego
I feel like he didnt watch dragon ball that much. Ill give a example, he said kami let goku know about the time chamber, after goku defeated piccolo junior. We all know that goku already knew about it and have trained in it before even before meeting piccolo
I did watch all of dragon ball and even have the entire manga series, when i said he let Goku know about the time chamber served as reminder rather than new knowledge to Goku
Great story but I can't get past certain things like super saiyan blue in 2 minutes, tien using kaioken x50, trunks and gotten learning fusion in 10 seconds
Goku already trained in the hyperbolic time chamber as a kid , but it was too much. Already it's starting off wrong. Not to mention goku really never took a break off training like that.
Subbing cause of how Impressed I am man... (Highlight+SpeakFunction Recommended) I was IFFY At First on where you were going with some choices, but kept thinking "Oh is he gonna..." kinda stuff... using my Years of OnePieceReader Advanced Observation Hákí.... of course : D ... at one point I was thinking how cool itd be if they learnt something SIMILAR To a Kí Shield from Seeing Broly have something akin to a Conquerors' Hákí Aura that because of the variety and density of his Kí reserve and his Nature of HOLDING It Back, He has an INSTINCTUAL/Instinctive Flexing of Kí when anything is hitting his Aura so by the time it hits his body his Body has Exploded out a KíBlast Aura like a Shield as stuff hits him So that it Really costs a Bit of NEAR-Endless Kí and so on... Maybe Whís can have Dialogue like "Hoho I've not seen a Reflexive Kí barrier used more than twice in a single fight in.... well... you don't need to know how old Universe 7 is and the small few capable of this... But to Nearly have Developed a Controlled Technique... I'd surmise it comes from how He's Always Tried Keeping his Power Concealed for others' safety, and NOW its Activating Similar to Your UltraInstinct Goku... But only for a moment... But I've only watched you do stuff Similar to that Intentionally... or... at least it was the instinct of your body when in that Higher state... Broly doesn't seem to've learnt it from that though... How interesting... of course Beerus will be upset he was napping for this if I don't Play it back for him on my staff..." Also I do think having the Emotional moment of Kakarot PROCESSING the Memory of his Father and the Story about him Fighting a Younger Gas could've been grand... Maybe he can Copy some Namekian or Kaîôshìn Technique for Sensing others' memories and start talking about Stuff inside his memories or THEN Share HIS Own Memories of Bardock whilst Mònaîtō shares His Own Experience of Bardock... which Maybe Kakarot can say something how "I knew We Werent ALL Bad Guys like the ones Enslaved by Frieza... and Dad STILL wouldn't Kill a kid which I can tell Mònaîtō sensed it was Because of Understanding the Value of a Child to a Partent and How their Deaths would Benefit NOBODY... Maybe I really should've tried using my weird Variant of Kaî-Kaî to see if I can't Find Dad in Otherworld... either in Hell or Heaven if his Death to Save His Planet and Children wasn't enough to show he Didnt Deserve being sent to Hell... But King Yemma is a tricky one for sure... How does Piccolo get along so well with the guy and treat him like someone super important? ..." "Well Goku, I'd Imagine he as a Former Kámí of Earth MIGHT See Reason to Treat the Leader of the Afterlife with SOME Level of Respect, so that he Doesn't feel any ill will or disdain towards any of his Comrades... he's apologised for your 'Rudeness' I believe he called it, on at least 2 occasions I watched for a chuckle.... The Guy REALLY Does Think he Runs EVERYTHING sometimes.... but you just simply go where you want don't you? I think your meant to Ask Permission before Accessing otherworld, you know? But you only asked one time if you could find strong people to train with if you ran down the long dragon road... which you at least said thanks before Flying so Fast all his Paperwork Got messed up, but the Casual Thank you is Likely the Only Reason he Hasn't decided you've earned a place in hell... and Also assisting with His Excessive work, when too many people get killed at once..." "What's all that mean? He doesnt like me or likes me?" "I think its that He's MORE Likely to be Helpful or Kind if you use Proper Manners with King Yemma or Enma, I believe he's called in Japan... Of Course I CAN Just use my Power to Summon Bardock whenever I wish or Even a Clone of Him, but it MIGHT Mean More if you Do the Work to EARN His Better Treatment---" "Gotta go train dad to learn to teleport and use god kí, THANKS! " hehehe Man THAT Could be its OWN little Side arc I could've found some way to Add into the Granolah arc WHICH... is Frieza in Hell too? Maybe he has learnt to sense STRONG Kí Fluctuations since battling the well Trained Earthling Saiyans... OR NOT Cause Different Timeline I suppose... hmm..... Wait who killed him in this one initially?! Some Moments (like Pages People SPEND Many Minutes looking and thinking about, seem reduced to a Single Line without much Exposition on Details, so Missing half of a Single Sentence Means HAVING NO CLUE what happened cause of the One Line missed... I guess my Constructive Criticism for you, is Merely to EXPAND on these heartfelt Character-Development Focused Moments... The Building and PROCESS of Change of the Characters... Cause there are Some HINTS that Clue to LATER Things, but Some Expository Dialogue and Commentary from Whís can go A LONG WAY... or Even "X Thought about Y's
@@uniqueknows2047 too much time too little ha I just rampbled cause of the Company’s TD… look it up for a laugh… or maybe slight concern about what others are partaking in without enough consideration for better use of such herbs… I just ramble cause of medicines and I feel functional for about 4 hours twice a day… so I check stories… Shockingly everyone else somehow is dying before i do… if I didn’t train myself to laugh at the collapse of our civilisation due to trusting others who have too much power then I’d have likely quit the game as 20 years ago hehehe Fâk the World Government man! Hehe But I suppose relative to my usual life I should say “good enough, I suppose…” and leave it at that? Oneself is doing better than Most Humans in many ways, but far worse in others as a result… haven’t been out in human civilisation in ages but it’s not like that’s any level of protection from the tools of the world government initiative of deceptive globalists.. but dang there’s the TD working its magic despite the differently produced variant… still won’t stop spilling but now it’s more articulately… the issues of understanding certain pharmacological studies and basic theoretical use of abailavle remedies… with another FtWG for reminders… : D Now I’m good! Ha cheers mate I’m on par with crappy AI overusage throughout the interwebz yes yes! I feel like that’s some kinda accomplishment, even if only in jest… Dare I pour myself a finer drink? No AI will ever match my mix of articulate and thoughtful ideas and complete bollocks regarding manga and anime I remember points of… there’s not enough Actual Human level emotional intelligence to AI but, I can only suspect that you too are an AI, as perhaps SOMEONE in charge of AI comments ridiculing me commenting more than 240 characters must think there’s more to be gained from not discouraging my damaged human ramblings on subjects to which I’m neither master nor as inept as people believing themselves to be masters… or something along those lines… And none of it’s cool or fun except for what I believe all humans here sometimes refer to as “teh Lulz” in the modern dialect of past 2 decades… forgive me for my anachronistic speech patterns, especially if you’re an AI… for which Copy is always a mess to watch, from others experiments… young nerds always use AI better than corporate and govt operated AIs because of their restrictions and organisation, etc. But yeah I at least Feel like there’s a potential human I’m speaking with… but I wouldn’t be shocked if some people I’ve talked in video and audio with were AI… and then deleting an ear with intent to delete more was only unsuccessful cause of basic online research and NAC agonists, even though I had to chew nicotine gum for a few months straight despite still not regaining the left ear I lost the week prior to anouncement of mystery virus shenanigans for which there was not One simple agent deployed to neutralise civilisations… way messier and nastier than that… but I can’t elaborate for obvious reasons if you’re to be allowed to read any of it ha FtWG again for that… get my perspective and its implications a little bit? If so good luck on your end mate… but yeah I should just say “naw I’m good” like a normal human being that still interacts with piers regularly… wait is that the right piers or is it peers? F*** the moments where an AI could’ve done better, right?
Man I wish I didn’t lose whatever I wrote on the other video I watched… there I said way longer than is allowed in a single comment But I dig a lot of stuff they’re doing with the younger characters and even use of some filler characters in actually interesting ways… maybe AI software will have better chapters of proper DB in coming decades when they catch up to Fan Written Quality, is my point… …but that’s kinda a positive outlook on the hellish territory through which we tread as manga fans in the 2020s right? : D
@@WrathfulSaiyan hehe that’s why I have the line advising SpeakFunction… (so it’s just a minute or two of audio then…) But looking forward to your work and enjoying the stories I’ve heard here! Keep goin! And cheers on listening to commenting viewers as well… (doesn’t happen as much as we all wish in most channels, right?)
Krillins power level went from 2500 to 13,000. that was a 5× boost. Also once the ginyus arrived, his potential grew so much that he surpassed all the ginyus except ginyu himself. Given the time to let their potential unlock more, they should easily be 30× stronger than their pre potential unlock power.
brother….not only is this story all over the place and so many things dont make sense its nonsense especially the power levels. and having Dende make dragon balls in Trunks timeline just to go to namek to get a guardian? they dont need a guardian just dragon balls😭😭
to have dragon balls you need a guardian, i made it that he stayed there to allow them to have dragon balls until they get their own guardian as namekain are the creator of dragon balls so they do need a guardian/namekain
I mean overall it really all depends on how strong Piccolo is when the fusion happens, since he is fused much earlier than in canon it wouldn't be the same big boost but in term of where they were at the time it is a huge boost in power
It is possible plus they all did train with Merus and I can see them all gaining Ui sign but only see Goku with MUI, maybe Vegeta depending if his character change
Great what if!!! I really love it. Im really glad that you didn't forget Goten and Trunks. Interesting path Goku had taken. Glad Piccolo had gotten stronger along with the hunans. Gohan maintaining his strength and Raddiz being oart of the group is a great choice.
My good sir, Krillen literally gets dozens of times stronger on namely after the Guru boost. Gohan does too, even without including the zenkai. He is 2800 when he arrives and is well into the 200,000 at Least by the time he leaves (with rage boost temporarily strong enough to affect 3rd for Freeza). Just for future reference :D Thank you for making videos! The new series (father son super Saiyans on Namek) looks like it’s gonna be BOMB
I feel like Beerus would've struggled a bit when he faced Goku and Vegeta the 1st time they jump in full power. making him use up 70% - 80% of power. because when he faced goku in cannon. he admit he was using 40% of power. but sense everyone trained hard and longer. he would've used more % of his power and would lie and tell them they didn't give him a challenge.
@@WrathfulSaiyan yeah there moments when watching carefully. he look like he's trying to make more effort to knock Goku down when goku turned god form. like "oh shit he's pushing me a bit. time to one smash him" XD
In the manga he doesn't say 70% thats a movie thing. He says god goku will never reach his level. Tbh the anime and manga should be treated as different timelines since different stuff happens . Manga beerus is only now within goku and vegeta range. But anime beerus might have gotten surpass but ui in the top
You are doing great my brother. Of course there's things we can all improve on. But for being your first full what if. It is better than most what if that I've heard
@@WrathfulSaiyan from what i've seen out of this, some of it gets hard to hear due to audio mixing, and if you're able to, do multiple takes if you mess up a line, its nothing against you, it just breaks the flow a little, besides those small issues, you're doing amazing! keep it up!
This story has so much potential but I think the author should do the same story again with a few adjustments. 1. Vegeta has the best control over the great ape form that we know, therefore he would have the easiest time accessing the form and would be best suited to teaching Goku how to control the great ape. 2. Fat Buu should not be able to tire out a SS4 Goku, Goku would be so much stronger that Buu would tire out and begin to crumble. (Like when Kid buu battered the weaker fat buu) 3. Piccolo was severely underpowered, and his fusion with Kame had no impact. X5 boost was too modest for such a fusion. Should have been 10x minimum. And his potential unlocked should have been higher than x6 as Piccolo was fused and has very good potential. 4. I think it would be better if Gohan and Piccolo trained with the Supreme Kais that way we can get ultimate then beast Gohan and Orange Piccolo. Goku would be better off working on SS4 with Vegeta until Beerus arrives. 5. Since you are struggling with Nappa, I think maybe you could have Nappa leave the group because he was bitter about Vegeta trying to kill him despite their lifetime bond. It could be cool if a SS Nappa meets King Cold and they form an alliance and this could later tie into Friezas return with Nappas knowledge. 5. I think your Beerus battle needs a complete rework. Vegeta with all of his pride wouldn't want a handout in SSG, Goku was originally hesitant which would make sense for it to be Radditz. As Radditz is the weakest this allows him to take the front seat and gives Goku and Vegeta something to work towards. After the battle against Radditz, this is when Ultimate Gohan and Piccolo can step in and stack KK giving Beerus his biggest challenge yet. (This Gohan would have trained in ultimate with Piccolo) - As Beerus wanted a good challenge he threatened the world and this is when Gohan and Piccolo snap and transform into Orange and Beast, they push Beerus to the absolute edge and this is heard throughout the universe which has a ripple effect. (Jiren starts training) this way your TOP can be more exciting as Jiren with God kai would be OP. I think you created a good concept and you are a great story teller. I will keep tuning in for more amazing content. Thank you ❤
I just saw it as Tien being able to use higher levels of the technique while Goku at lower would still be stronger. Like Tien at times 7 would equal Goku at times 3 or 4. Despite that thought Tien wouldn't have higher levels since he's mostly human or just human depending on who you ask.
You have a point but I went over with their physiques, even tho their body biology would be different cause one’s human and one’s a saiyan but I would think that Tien being more bulkier already would be able to handle kaioken better than Goku’s body size
