"What if I Play More Dinosaurs and Battles Than Lands?!?" | Meme or Dream? | Standard MTG Arena

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Meme or Dream? returns with a deck that loves Dinosaurs and loves battles, but seems to hate lands. Is 21 land Dino Battle Tribal a Meme or Dream? Let's find out!
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@Zephyrt3mp3st Год назад

Sits there afraid of the counters with Tyrrannax Rex in hand has "This spell can't be countered" as the literal first line of text

@bobwilson679 7 месяцев назад

I cannot overstate how frustrating this was to watch

@renegarcia9420 Год назад

Whatdaya mean you don't know what to call it???? Mr. Olive, there is only one correct answer: (que the theme music) Battlesaurs!! BattleSaurs!!

@darksideofthesand Год назад

The extinct ancestors of Battle Toads!!n

@PvtSkittles656 Год назад

I would've went with beast wars

@Darkflamecrusader Год назад

Seth: I will be happy when Invoke rotates. Wizards: Good news everybody!

@radicalratx7790 Год назад

Even though I laughed IRL, this is quite disappointing...

@dashkataey1740 Год назад

Wizards: I have discovered a way to save Standard! Seth: But Wizards, why change it? Wizards: Cause we still haven't sold all our Double Feature boosters! Don't worry Seth, I know what I'm doing.

@wojtektaracinski7977 Год назад

...what happened? Did they reprint it or something?

@FrozenLavaDragonProd Год назад

@@wojtektaracinski7977 There will not be a standard rotation this year apperently. They are making it so that Standard rotates every 3 years.

@radicalratx7790 Год назад

@@dashkataey1740 standard is rotating every 3 years now instead of 2, so invoke isn't leaving standard this September as had been expected

@connormohs6046 Год назад

Did you forget Tyrranax Rex can’t be countered? It’s like a hasty Carnage Tyrant!

@andrewgolubiewski3463 Год назад

Meme or Dream would be my favorite series if there was just 1 more game after Seth fixes the deck at the end. I love these off meta decks and would really enjoy seeing it perform after the improvement.

@KebbieG Год назад

You had a uncounterable Rex vs Grixis that has ward 4. Should have just casted it.

@brandandixon3943 Год назад

he played this deck way too safe, he shoulda just cast the dinos.

@weirddan455 Год назад

@@brandandixon3943 He's always playing way too scared of counters. In the modern Yargle video he died to a Murktide with the lethal combo sitting in his hand for 3 turns because he was too scared to cast it. Sometimes you just need to play your cards...

@whatdothlife4660 Год назад

I know English is weird but the past tense of cast is just cast.

@KebbieG Год назад

@@whatdothlife4660 Ahh I see. My grammar has been getting worse the longer I code for a living. 🤣🤣

@ther3aper561 Год назад

To note, Zopandrel doubles the power on EACH combat. So you'd double on theirs as well and they wouldn't have been able to attack because you'd have an 8/8, 12/12, and an 8/12

@valorcarmichael9078 Год назад

"Kogla and Yidaro isn't a Dinosaur" Seth please you are hurting me

@chadcharest9891 Год назад

I was like 'wait...' Shoulda kept one and pulled the Vorinclex for purity sake.

@gregorlangemeier4116 Год назад

He said Zopandrel isn't a dinosaur, but mentioned K&Y directly after, so he got it right Edit: nvm, He messed up 2 min later, sorry

@jeremysmith4620 Год назад

"I will be happy when Invoke Despair rotates." I see this was recorded before the weekend and all our hopes of bidding farewell any time soon to Mirror Breaker and Invoke Despair were completely obliterated.

@KBM_38 Год назад

Looks like farewell got countered

@anbuagent12 Год назад

This is the epitome of a Timmy deck, and I am here for it!

@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle Год назад

As a Timmy can confirm

@JKXYGolden Год назад

I know it's not really how meme or dream works, but after watching the deck tech I'd be very curious to see Seth play a few games with the revised version

@dementievatz Год назад

Sometimes he does that - I would watch that also. This deck is cool.

@MakeVarahHappen Год назад

I'd replace Vorinclex with Kogla and Yidaro. Technically it increases the curve but in actuality, it's a four-mana removal spell that replaces itself that you can get back with Invasion of Shandalar and is sometimes a dinosaur. Plus it's actually on theme (Ape *Dinosaur* Turtle Seth) while Vorinclex isn't.

@davidharper142 Год назад

Killing the phoenix that keeps coming back as opposed to the other 2/2 is a major misplay vs monored.

@cedricappleby2006 Год назад

The line of thinking here might've been that you can eventually block the other 2/2, but yeah, that was a misplay. The Phoenix was always going to come back every turn.

@UberTahm Год назад

The ratios are jank, but I think there are bones here. Ramping into Etali is a great win condition, and the battles do help you do that by either filtering draws, ramping, or in the case of Karsus wiping the board so you don't die to aggro. I think if the ratios were cleaned up this deck would be dope.

@enmanuelrondon9700 Год назад

I think I would have killed the etchings creature instead of the bird against mono red since the bird keeps coming back and deals the same damage as etchings anyway.

@dementievatz Год назад

I was wondering why he played it that way also.

@Red_Mage__ Год назад

Less of a mana curve, more a staircase

@OuterCraft Год назад

You probably should have killed the kumano rather than the phoenix. The phoenix comes back for free, kumano does not

@reallysmallbird Год назад

Oh my god. This was literally a deck I wanted to make. I wanted to just jam all the Ixalan cards together into a Standard deck for a flavor win and try to make it cohesive. Plus some added battles, because battles are really fun. But, uh, this works too. Hell yeah. Dinos & battles for life!

@Lucat27 Год назад

I remember playing that sunbird’s invocation + approach of the second sun deck, but I had the sideboard juke of naya dinosaurs

@njlodato Год назад

The Yidaro half of Kogla and Yidaro when Seth says it isn't a dino: Am I a joke to you?

@HomeCookinMTG Год назад

I usually don't assume my opponent is slow rolling, arena makes you cast spells to get things. If he had "cast 20 red or black spells" harvester counts as one of each.

@eclipsedlunus6622 Год назад

Gotta say I appreciate the stinger where you try to make the deck into something more viable while sticking to the theme

@draconocor1309 Год назад

Would love to see you fix the deck mid-video and play with it for the second half, rather than at the end

@c.jhamblin5759 Год назад

I will be shocked if this manages to win even one game. Lets go!

@jholopez1993 Год назад

You know, for as much as I love this game for what it is. I constantly forget the love to the sense of humor that you have to have in order to play crazy ass homebrews like this 😂😂😂 I love Seth's sense of humor throughout the entire video when playing this deck😅😅😅

@nickel_n_dime719 Год назад

Wouldn't you (in theory) use Curse of Shaken faith against any deck with Ledger Shredder? Not saying it's worth it, but that feels like an obvious counter play

@polarmage2577 Год назад

that Omen Hawker deck was spicy, though. maybe something like that is worth trying once Aftermath and Training Grounds is in the Standard.

@skykur Год назад

Seth keeps the greediest hands ever. Just mulligan dude

@Nictusempra Год назад

"gosh, opponent's aggro" *keeps unplayable mana base opening hand* oh my gooooood Seth! Seth!

@AaronRotenberg Год назад

Meme or Dream has always been my favorite Goldfish series. I miss when you did it with MTGO dumps too and tried to figure out if a jank pile really 5-0ed a league or was just people abusing the off-hours matchmaking.

@erniebarrett815 Год назад

I would love to see you workshop this deck a bit, update it, and try it again.

@rodrigodepaula4198 Год назад

You made a video of the deck. Love it. 🤣

@AeroSW Год назад

The largest issue with Gruul is Vindicator and Obliterator being in the current standard. This is why my current variation of a deck similar to this splashes black for Tear Asunder. Also needs to run that 5/5 immune to non-Green Creature in standard right now.

@wookieesden3133 Год назад

So happy to see Meme or Dream back!

@camacunamacias5942 Год назад

It'd be awesome to watch a couple matches with the original deck then a couple with the new version to see how it plays out!

@alasanof Год назад

So that's what the blue deck was. It seems very good, omenhawker's mana gives a lot of ramp.

@omegafolf Год назад

"I'll be glad when Invoke Despair rotates." Steph, before WotC extended Standard rotation by a year

@davidmorales-dm7xm Год назад

It would be cool to see this deck remade to be an actual functioning pile of cards, it seems really fun.

@andymccoy8393 Год назад

I appreciate Seth making the deck more functional while still keeping the theme

@brandandixon3943 Год назад

at 27:10 seth asked where was the standar scavenging ooze. There Literally IS the white equipment that does that effect. LION SASH!!!!

@harkingmadwing5112 Год назад

This is the greatest video you have ever made

@metalhev3989 Год назад

Seth: makes a meme deck Also seth: loses to an even bigger ninjutsu bankbuster meme deck

@blazewalker7313 Год назад

If I had to guess the reason for the Chandra is to copy some big Green Sun Twilights and go bananas with it The deck doesnt seem that bad though, besides the mana base theres a lot of hastey threats that will just flip your battles the moment you cast them, especially Tyrranex Rex, Invoke despair is a problem though and I dont get the City on fire unless the idea is to flip into it with Etali and burn someone to pieces with your removal package maybe?

@BobardeZanzibar Год назад

Seth's improvements are perfect. No notes.

@BobSMASHTV Год назад

Thanks for the upload. 🦖 🦕 Brought me back to magic! Lol Would love it if you played a match with your changes!

@tyiscool12321 Год назад

I would love to see an Against the Odds follow up to this in the future

@Crusina Год назад

"I will be happy when invoke despair rotates" Ah...happy days...

@rd30000 Год назад

That first game was so awesome

@lokone303 Год назад

this deck play really good around the shuffler algo. Fetch lands at cheap cost is a key part of that, dont cut bushwahck.

@MazemindTom Год назад

The invasion of zendikar/basic land ratio is a little off in this build. Also deeproot wayfinder (although not a dino) might be a nice add

@PSroka Год назад

hey Seth! I was actually trying to build a list like this for pioneer, is there a chance you play a list in explorer/pioneer

@TheGrifcannon22 Год назад

I think the one mana green protection spell could find a place in the sideboard to protect Etali and you could try to win with toxic as a backup plan.

@maclainwright3338 Год назад

I actually really liked the second deck that you played against

@Thecalebpoe Год назад

"I hope they dont see the line" ... Hovers over "the line" 😂

@whenwhere6173 Год назад

If your playing battle dinos, you have to play ramparaptor, the hastey trample hit face and battle at same time creature

@wormspeaker Год назад

This deck is almost certainly someone's "just cards I have in my collection" tribal.

@lambda6736 Год назад

Also it would be cool to see an Infect rebuild of the deck, leaning on hasty Toxic dinos and maybe a pinch of Chandra or Etali at the top end.

@Abzanafenza Год назад

in that second game against mono red, what was the thought process behind repeatedly opting to kill the phoenix instead of the etching when the phoenix can easily keep returning? Like, kill the etching and then remove the phoenix on the next combat and you save 2 (or possibly 4 I lost track) life and probably win

@petersteiman2443 Год назад

Completely unrelated, I was wondering if we were going to see any more Invasion of Segovia decks from you in this standard. I feel like there are some sweet possibilities with Awaken the Woods and Nissa, Ascended Animist.

@michaelcollins4534 Год назад

It's like a Timmy bulk bin deck with three etalis thrown in

@r4g1ngph03n1x Год назад

27:00. I don't understand killing the Phoenix here when the Kumano doesn't come back. Kill it first then kill the Phoenix later and you save some damage over time.

@papaflowers5726 Год назад

Etali is too good. He's been showing up in commander a bunch in my group.

@grantreiber382 Год назад

Top-e-airy. Never change Seth

@TheKillerman3333 Год назад

This is a deck where after playing with it, you can tell how to rebuild it to be more optimized. More stompers for sure, more zendikar, more bushwhackers

@Malik1378 Год назад

I kinda wish we got to see the revamped deck play

@ooninjapenguin7286 Год назад

God damn I'm ready for the next rotation. No more bank buster + mirror breaker in every deck.

@BaltanTwo Год назад

55:03 Kogla and Yidaro is absolutely a Dinosaur though lol (Yidaro is a dino turtle).

@StevenLong Год назад

Just noticed the shirt! My daughter (age 4) was just singing Small Stone to her little brother (age 7 months). She calls him Amibo ba Debbel.

@anxez Год назад

Possibly the greatest sin of this video is how the deck mostly lost to Seth keeping bad hands or not reading his cards. I think this deck is a lot closer to a dream than Seth thinks.

@elliotpierce4046 Год назад

would love to see some games after you "fix" the deck in this series

@jessepelletier9087 Год назад

Add Rampaging Raptor!!! Then bring it back as an Against the Odds!!

@tliessi Год назад

55:02 Kogla and Yidaro is a dinosaur (and an ape, and a beast, and...)

@danielsniff6405 Год назад

Deck: I like battles and dinosaurs Invasion of Ixalan: I am a battle and a dinosaur. Deck: get out of here before you potentially fix my mana curve!

@blackiscolor7732 Год назад

in my experience the absolute best battle has been the rg draw discard treasure one

@solarsystemwulf96 Год назад

Meme or dream is my favorite series

@OGNoNameNobody Год назад

Hey. Seth. Your Vault is ready to open.

@TinyLegs15243 Год назад

Curse of shaken faith is for storm, not sure how much of that is in standard though lol

@davidhansen5067 Год назад

Somebody needs to get Seth to play a deck with Invasion of Karsus and Hydroid Krasis just so we can watch Seth struggle...

@izzyv830 Год назад

"maybe we cant play the Kogla and Yidaro, the cards super cool but its not a dinosaur" yidaro: "am i a joke to you?"

@williamprudhomme91 Год назад

Can you play the most competitive version of this deck on your stream or yt pretty please :)

@dennismonk9559 Год назад

i copied one from that page that was like 22 planeswalkers and just 1 creature. (the 1/3 green that you can pay 1G to return to hand and get a land). i've played a few and it works ok :)

@dracish123456789 Год назад

Still hoping to see an against the odd mono mountain gruul or rakdos

@katanakid13 Год назад

Deck names? Fossil Fighters. Dinosaur King. Ixalan Pokémon.

@ryandowns6233 Год назад

ironically, Shaken Faith is great against Etali since they're casting multiple spells

@ImJustHereToWatch14 Год назад

I was about to say how much I loved a deck with 0 playsets, but then we have a 4x all in the board?!

@elijahmcdowell9690 Год назад

Funnily enough, Curse of Shaken Faith would work as an answer to the enchantment in invoke. Not a great choice, but still.

@darthader3507 Год назад

I’m sad to not see the questing raptor in this list.

@adammorin2955 Год назад

After this deck i am 100% convinced wizards of the coast is telling us we are playing magic wrong.

@davidmorales-dm7xm Год назад

The treasure is always in the sideboard

@zachariahmcgovern5465 Год назад

Is there a reason there is only three copies of any card?

@Chris3s Год назад

using cards in their library, not wanting to spend any wild cards

@sarcastic_ocupie1669 Год назад

No Rampaging Raptor for a Dinosaur tribal battle deck?!

@enmanuelrondon9700 Год назад

Kogla and Yidaro is a dino

@JacoDeltaco Год назад

honestly at this point I have three(look Seth editor is going to be happy)* theory about those deck 1. they make bet in the office about wich of there Jank you are going to play next 2. It the result of there future league 3. some one got dump the task of making those deck and honestly. He probaly has better to do and nobody care as long as there are some new deck up. *I wrote three not 3

@dudumangs7140 Год назад

If it has a sideboard, is it really meme or dream?

@wvanhuss4190 Год назад

It's hard for meme decks to be good with cards like Fable running around haha and we get another whole year with them 🥲

@cedricappleby2006 Год назад

I really hope Invoke Despair and Fable get banned, having them for another year would suck There's an argument for banning Sheoldred and Bloodtithe as well but Despair and Fable 100% need to go

@umayle07 Год назад

Mr Olives voice is somewhat unnerving for me but love the gameplay

@gregorlangemeier4116 Год назад

Rebuild gameplay video when?

@Syncopiia Год назад

EXTREME (extreme) EXTREME (extreme) EXTREEEME DINOSAAAUUORS!!!

@nikonyzowyj6716 Год назад

I can't hear any sound

@guybrushthreepwood362 Год назад

Kogla and Yidaro is a dinosaur! 59:05

@lordmeep5803 Год назад

Seth you constantly complain about the curve but when you have the option to bring in ramp and cut 7 drops, every time you just got rid of more cheap cards 🤣🤣🤣