What If India Was Never Colonised? 

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What if the turks migrated into the north european plain instead of persia and anatolia

This isn't that unrealistic, if you just have the Marathas A). Win the battle of Panipat, thus letting them conquer the Mughals and not losing so many men B). Peshwa Rao doesn't work with the British to weaken the Maratha empire for his own gain.

Nawabate of Bengal actually tried to kick the British out of the subcontinent, but failed so hard that the entirety of Bengal was lost to British. A scenario where Bengal won?

keep making more alternate colonial history, it's a really nice to see some less popular topics being covered

When British left from India, India was broken into 562 region, British didn't unify India, Indians unified themselves

honestly, the unification of india without the british just depends on whether we could have our own mao zedong, with us being as cruel as the Americans and as expansionist as the Russians

Indians reunited India, the British divided India and portrayed it as a unified Raj

10:00 I LOVE how Indiana and Ohio are thrown into the Arabian Sea to provide a sense of scale for Americans. That's a very cute idea, and it's something I wish I'd see more often on maps like this.

It is not British but Sir sardar Vallabhbhai Patel who unifies more than 650+Princely states.🇮🇳🙏into India। The British divided India by religion and created a radical State called Pakistan to counter India.

I think the Marathas would just conquer the whole Indian language family and Dravidian language family because why not ?

Now I’m wondering what would have happened if the Industrial Revolution happened in an Indian state instead of in Britain

I say Post Mughals The Marathas most capable leaders Baji Rao I (Died at 40) Chimaji Appa( Died at 39) Balaji Rao (Died at 42) Madhav Rao I ( died at 27). These four men died From 1740 to 1772. In just 30ish years they lose 4 exceptional leaders If any one or a combination of leaders lived till their 70s or atleast 60s. Perhaps the Stronger Marathas would be able to unify the nation, especially with their idea of Hindvavi Swaraj would be ideological unified

The idea of a unified state had always existed in india. Akhand bharat. Many rulers set out to achieve it.

Well the Sikhs had a military that rivaled the Brits in the first Sikh Anglo war, they were the last to be annexed but were facing a civil war from government vs the military itself including generals on the government and britians side when the war happened

another branching point couldve been a maratha victory in the third battle of panipat which causes the empire never to stop snowballing and the marathas inflicting massive defeats on the british in the first and second anglo maratha wars

Another upload from my favorite small channel! You seriously have quality comparable to the big alternate history RU-vidrs, without a doubt better than Whatifalthist was in his early days. I really hope you grow.

Also just to add as a south Indian: South India is also very close to each other culturally. Our languages are pretty similar to each other and with time it is very easy to learn other south Indian languages if you are a Native South Indian. Also ethnically we are Dravidians, unlike the Indo-Aryan hindi speakers to the north. The south is more likely to unify under a loose Federation than the North because there is a lot of infighting and religious differences in the north compared to the South which is mainly Hindu with a few notable muslims in Hyderabad. However this is probably the most unrealistic scenario India is too valuable to not be colonised. Even if the British fail the first time they will just come back stronger ad take over the entire sub-continent. Anyway, It's great to see my country in your videos keep up the good work.

What about doing this scenario a different way- like what if India wasn’t colonized *because* a single Indian state unified the subcontinent before 1750?

can you do a video on WW1 and if it never happened? i'd love to see someone actually cover the topic properly, keep up the good work!

Also, just realised, the hypothetical Maratha empire looks like a bizzare Mexican empire 😂😂😂

It'd be interesting if you'd make a video exploring the idea of a "scramble for India" type scenario. Many nations were involved in India at one point or another so I don't think it's entirely unrealistic to imagine a subcontinent further divided, even if the proportion of British/French possessions would still be the biggest ones.

It's really sad to see when alternate history creators look at indian societies they assume that they work the same way as their own societies. The Maratha states had there disagreements but showed higher levels of cooperation than many European states. The states and the Peshwa under the Chhatrapati had their own demarcated spheres of influence to restrict internal conflict apart from mediation from the Peshwa and the Chhatrapati.

Do you remember my Buddhism suggestion?? What if Buddhism remained dominant in central, western and south asia including indian subcontinent.

@2:50 British got permission to setup business in India Noone could invade india by sea Its suicide Your basic idea could have been denied permission.....

If Tipu made peace with the Marathas and aligned against the British when he conducted his offensive against the British in the second Anglo-Mysore war, the British would have been ended right then. What happens after that likely, is military modernization sponsored by the French, or French and European mercenaries, who would have converted some of the armies into European styled forces. If Tipu survives then he could build the first properly modernized centralized state with a modern army, and have a realistic chance of conquering all of South India at least. The Marathas and Mysore would contend with each other, for the rest of the sub-continent.

Would've been cool to see India sort of become the Japan of this timeline where it is united under the Maratha Confederacy which isolates the country and when the Europeans show up it goes through the same quick industrialization as Japan did which we all know what ot led to...

Anyone growing up with a Abrahmic framework cannot understand the beauty & unity of India.

This is really good and quite a well researched video!

Imagine the Europeans being nice to the world....and never colonized and looted others...

Spain also got a colony in ind… ok maybe that is too farfetched, but what can I say, I am a Spanish history enjoyer

Before colonization, there were many states in India and the people of those states were completely different from each other. The British conquered all those states and unified India under one federation. If Indians were successful in defending their states against the colonizers, there would have been lots of different countries in India today and there would have been no country namely India.

you should make a part 2, the impacts this would have on ww1 or ww2 would be immense

Nice, glad that you did a video on India. Can I request a what if video on Malaysia? Would like to see a video on what if Malacca wasn't conquered by the British or what if Indonesia declared war on Malaysia

WHAT IF Bhaarat Maata was never colonized- India MIGHT HAVE been a developed country with an economy as strong as USA.The treasury of India started to drain out since the series of loot organized by former Afghan rulers Mahmud Ghazni and Mohammed Ghauri around 11th century AD followed by 4 centuries of Pathan Empire and 3 centuries of Mughal Empire which unfortunately paved the way for 4 centuries of Portuguese colonization and 3 centuries of British Colonization with French and Dutch colonization lasting 4 only 2 centuries.

Your theory is good, and I appreciate all the hard work you’ve put in it. I would like to add a few more thoughts for maybe an alternate explanation for the subject of the video. Your theory assumes that the Indian unification can happen only under the absence of European influence. I would like to propose an alternative for this. While what you explain in your video definitely a possibility, it also assumes that European countries were super powers back then and could rival India or China head to head. When Europeans first started colonisation they were not that powerful or rich. They took advantage of faltering leadership in Asia and America, and gradually became a powerhouse. Vast number of people fighting for the Europeans in India were the locals who were looking for a better life. Europe could not have maintain its power in the country without support from local people. Therefore if we have to speculate on what might have prevented Indian Subcontinent from colonisation from an external power and being unified at the same time, we have to envision some kind of cultural revolution in an Indian empire that would prevent the locals from supporting external powers. Perhaps raise of a charismatic leader in the Maratha empire that lays down cultural reforms. In such a scenario, Maratha empire would have unified India. As far as the confederate nature of this empire is concerned, we must remember that Indian Subcontinent is roughly the size of Europe. And European Union today is not an insignificant entity by any means. Like EU, there is defiantly a possibility of Indian states coming together in ideology and wielding power in its collective interest. The cultural common threat that took a distinct Indian under the British, always existed in India and we shouldn’t rule out a possibility of Indian states banding together. When look at the bigger picture, Indian states have a lot in common with each other compared to Middle East or China , then why can’t we speculate on an Indian Union as a power player on the world stage?

I really enjoyed the video!

Please make a video on what if India was never invaded by Turkish-Islamic plunderers from Northwest... And modern India would be exist like strong Maurya or Gupta Empire in centre with strong decentralized states like Punjab Maharashtra Gujarat tamilnad Bengal Assam

Indian subcontinent would be split into multiple nations.. But the region as a whole would be much more developed and prosperous.. Likely would be like Europe today, multiple nations but very prosperous. And without the Indian loot, Europe would be much more poorer.

I feel something is pretty inherently wrong about this video India was a manufacturing hub since the ancient times They made everything from Damascus steel to some of the best boats on the planet,beating out even the portguese India wouldn’t be a backwater like china,if anything in the industrial era,it would be a part of the planet that modernises quickly Im not accusing PH of racism for not thinking this way since india was a colony and hence served the whims of the British parliament which happened to be agriculturally aligned or atleast primary good focused

Not that unrealistic. There were several very powerful states in India (like, as others have mentioned, the Maratha empire) and some of them inflicted military defeats on the British. Also, the early British conquest of India was mostly carried out by the East India Company. If the EIC/occasional direct British intervention is delivered several early defeats they may come to see a conquest as not worth it (not profitable) or even impossible. Also, I don’t think European competition over India has to make a conquest more likely. If some diplomatically astute Indian princes can pit the colonial powers against each other, they may exhaust themselves in competition while placing the Indians in a stronger position.

2:37 start here

Big Dislike. This video starts with a false information of giving credit to British for the creation of India 😠

I think you vast underestimated India's capabilities of defending itself. It has been one of the most populated regions on earth and could very well have defended itself.

Well presented. But we must also feel that industrial revolution will shortly spread to India also and Marathas would use the growing technology in Europe and keep their consolidated power. As they would not have lost their wealth outside borders, the country would have continued to be rich with a supreme centre and vassal states.

Interesting scenario as always, though I must say I wish you went full alien space bats and created a scenario without any outside interference Something that I wanted to say is that its likely that the Durranis would start a new Muslim empire in the North, and the southern Tamil peoples would create another Hindu empire as they always have. Whatifalthist pointed this happening throughout Indian and Pakistani history, and it's one of the few things he says that rings true

Also, after the 7 years war, the british began to gradually increase their influence from their trading posts, and establishing protecterates.

What if the 1857 Indian revolution was successful?

I think at some point in the mid 20th century, all of the Indian states would form a confederayion like state with free trade and movement, as well as a unified foreign policy.

finally a Ph where we can watch it without hiding from parents.

Lovely idea! I really enjoyed watching this video!

I wonder if an EU style economic/military union developing during/after the cold war is likely, perhaps even explicitly modeled after the EU. A desire to be able to combat the influence of the USSR/US/China could, in my opinion, feasibly combine with the religious and cultural ties that do exist within the area to provide an impetus for closer cooperation, in a very similar manner to the EU.

What if this alternate India they make some kind of Indian Union, similar to how the EU is

India and her people regardless of religion lived in harmony, the british 'divide and rule' didn't only apply to regions but religion as well. People were systematically put against each other, distracting from the real problem much like how the west operates now. That crack is still haunting India and Pakistan. Not to mention India was the richest country in the world before colonization. Corruption contributed largely to the fall of it.

Never colonised❌ Never invaded by betrayers ✅

The assertion that India was conquered due to disunity is a bit misleading. The britts had consistency on their side. The EIC kept at it until it eventually managed to take advantage of moments of weakness. The fact that the conquering took centuries proves that. The brits could definitely conquer cina at the time. The first opium war was simple proof of how OP they were at that point, dwarfing the much larger state due to improved technology. The problem with wars is that they are expensive, and at the time britain was already at a disadvantage sincec the first opium war was effectively the result of trade negotiations going badly. So you have the experience of the conquering of India being extremely expensive (bailing out the EIC almost bankrupted the empire) and you are faced with the situation where you have the option to conquer another massive country but you're definitely too broke to do it without hurting yourself financially.

What map-making tool do you use?

I imagine it would be alot like what happened with China, loads of internal instability with colonial powers taling advantage of that without fully colonising.

You can't dictate one sentence without word Europe

Can you please do a what if scenario about Sweden winning the Great Northern war. There are multiple ways this could have happened for an example so would the Swedes be in a much better spot if they destroyed the Saxan army in their crossing of the Duna river and then later as they intended to do invade Russia after all their enemies wore unable the pose a threat. If you for some reason don't know what the great northern war was so was it the war that maid Russia be able to rise and become a great power.

India should just be like Switzerland

Another point to note is the French never held significant territory in the South Eastern Coast of India especially the Southern tips, they controlled Pondicherry while the surrounding Tamil and Telugu Regions was under the Carnatic Nawabs and Hyderabadi Nizam where rival claimants were often supported by the British or the French. In the last quarter of the 18th century is when the British really control outside Madras.

india probably couldve avoided colonisation if we assumed that some Indian kingdom managed to unite India under his rule. Mysore alone defeated British twice until the British made an alliance with 5 other indian empires to defeat mysore. an alternate storyline would be that the Marathas managed to conquer under Shivajis rule India before the British arrived. he already had ambitions of a massive empire and he crushed all the major powers of his time so he could've most likely conquered the rest of india. that way India was strong enough to fight off a foreign invader and if they had Mysorean rockets with Madras infantry and a massive army they would've been unconquerable.

Something that is wrong in the initial history the video covers is saying we did not have a nation state ideology. That's wrong. We have the "rashtra" and "rajya" (nation and state) concept outlining the nation state of Bharat as far back as Chanakya during the Mauryan empire. Our religious text like the rig ved also mention of this united nation land. A different version of this video can we where India was not colonised by Islamist forces as well. Then we could've had a much more stable (not completely peaceful) unified nation state.

Mad consistent ✊🏽

i would argue that many much more developed indian states would still be a huge player on the world stage. we would most likely see strong alliances form between many of these indian states, and even thought they are smaller, these states would be able to leverage their still sizeable populations much more effectively than modern day india due to increased development and autonomy.

I think there are couple other likely scenarios: The Maratha confederacy could have just grown in size by incorporating other regions; primarily conquering the Nizam of Hyderabad and the Rohilya state in Awadh. Rohilyas rolled with the Afghans, so if Maratha decisively won Panipat, then I doubt the Rohilyas would have lasted much longer with Maratha warlords having casus belli to take it over. I think Mysore and Nizams would suffer a similar fate. So you still have decentralized India but under a loose confederate framework. European powers would take advantage of this; but so would Indian semi states who could push modernization in their realm like Japan in the Meiji era.

India is where it is because of what it has been through. ❤

What if Savarkar unified India as he wanted to?Make video on this?

So if india was never colonized, it would be similar to europe and Southeast asia, with many states kingdoms ruling the subcontinent, as well as having a personal union similar to the e.u.

India would have still seen a civil war broke. Period!! Imagine having a Muslim Pashahi Emperor (Read Mughal Badshah Bahadur Shah Zafar) and Hindu Peshwa as Grand Vizier (Read Nana Saheb). How will that gonna work out?? Bengal, Hyderabad and Awadh will revolt and in retaliation. Marathas and Sikhs will retaliate. And Rajput form 3rd front.

There's a possibility the Marathas could take inspiration from the Japanese in empire building.

What if Guthrum defeated Alfred the great at the battle of Edington and England became a Germanic Pagan kingdom?

What about a possible history of indonesia if the Dutch never colonised it?

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There was a massive power struggle within the Maratha Empire which weakened it significantly. If the power struggle did not take place then Marathas would never have been colonised .

Personally i see revolutions happening in India against rulers and for democracy , the minor states that you speak of will eventually rebel trying to carve their own countries , A whole India was still possible but would definitely need some bloodshed and power struggle and this can happen since europe was simply too weak ater ww2 to intefere in most places in the world.

As an Indian I am afraid only central India might have stayed India and the nooks and corners forming other nations or joining other present countries. This topic 'What if' has always been on my mind but I am afraid India is as it is today because the British ( a superior race to us) united us and probably made us jumped from Kingdoms to modernization. We have certainly lost our original progress but here we are in the top 10 supremacy worldwide. The Britishers have their merits and demerits. We have certainly skipped some levels of our development. From warring states to an united Nation and leaders known by men until the end of mandkind who have the qualities and idea to lead a successful revolution and developed our nation up until now.

The growth of India was much more than empires The continent in itself is a civilization of culture

Very cool Video, have a nice day!

British united india fact 🎉

The internet would have been better if England didn’t teach them English.

Nepal would have been bigger and it was before British arived

Nice!

Now I understand the glory of Samrat Asoke

He defeated all the "use right map of India" people by using the weirdest map of India the world has ever seen.

I think the people who would benefit the most would be Burma cuz they got obliterated by the brits

Hallo. Another great video.

Brishers: we can't defeat them We have crack wars between them Then we will take chance

I tend not to consume content made by Europeans or Americans that has to deal with alternate histories in Asia or Africa because many of these content creators will fall under the assumption that because things happened in our timeline, are supposed to happen in others or follow similar paths, and another thing is that these content craters will diminish the the agencies of the people they are talking about. Yes I get it that this is a complex subject and it’s easy to say that Europeans would always naturally conquer but it ignores the fact that without India’s wealth, Europe would not have the capital to build its industrial might. In your scenario you’ve already discussed how the American revolution and the French revolution have happened. Europe wouldn’t have access to easy cheap resources for industrialization and trade. a perfect example of what I mean is that the British grew opium in India to sell to China to offset its trade imbalance and the flow of silver leaving Britain because it’s addiction to tea. Eventually, Britain would actively grow its own tea in Sri Lanka, and North India.

Can u do what if sub sharia africa has guns and was more monarchist than tribal in the 1700s

Its impossible for Europeans to be technically advanced without colonising India

British nevet unified India British government divided India as much as possible by Pakistan East and west from India and planning to divide many more state in India. If british never occupies India The India becomes 1st democratic nation before America because of Maratha Empire has never cast or religious system it's included foreign officer like French with equal rights and woman had power to lead army as well as rules nation also judges post had power to had challenged ruling post orders and power to had punished leaders and rulers. In Maratha Empire is stage of decentralisation of power which led to expansion of empires beyond Afghanistan also Martha nevy had power to expand power to beyond East and West sea. Russia had never be Maratha Empire problem because of Maratha Empire had trading relationship also good relationship with Russia, French, Portuguese, burma, Thailand combodia of that time. If British didn't invaded India is biggest number one country in world by size, costal line, sea port, economy and military power by passing equal to China, Russia, America, combined that why British looting India for centuries and end of rules it divided it because fear of trade between Russia and India, implement policy that only British can only trade with India and ban on French and Portuguese entered in India by British and purchasing it very low prices. British distroyed Indian economy by distroying traders, merchant, indestrialist even after independence of India by monopoly over indian good and fixing pricing of Indian goods in other countries like European and middle East countries. Also there will be no religious and cast based conflict occurred in India because British created conflicts under divided and rule policy. In era of Maratha Empire there will be no discrimination against caste, religion, poor and rich, man and woman in power, High government post. If British never rule India than India become world number one safe country in world by means of land surrounded by mountains and sea north khyber pass only enter road to India which Maratha kingdom reached and South by sea surrounding by Indian forts under sea, in terms of policy each every person had equal rights and opportunity to shine regardless of gender, caste, religion with zero crime rate. In Maratha kingdom when woman harassed by man the man is punish by cutting his arms and legs so anyone had in mind of harassing woman he had fear of punishment even if he is rich and high Maratha government offier.

Q.What If India Was Never Colonised? A. 22 small countries

Normal EU4 game be like:

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...what if the small independent states form an EU style union - potentially incorporating parts of the Near East (say Iran, Iraq & Turkey) along with parts of South East Asia (say Thailand, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam) - as a ballpark against the US, China, USSR and the EU...?

Watching videos like this made me realize that i dislike this timeline like a lot

I love your videos

British😕 never united India but devide into 3 parts (for devide and rule policy) , that were INDIAN people who got united against BARITISH , But British devides it into IN , PK , BD