What if KANTO Gym Leaders were ACTUALLY GOOD?! 

Chapters: 00:25 - Brock 03:01 - Misty 04:26 - Lt. Surge 06:02 - Erika 07:15 - Koga 08:28 - Sabrina 09:38 - Blaine 11:54 - Giovanni

There's no way you can remove Vileplume as Erika's ace. She's all about flowers and it's been her signature Pokemon in every piece of Pokemon media since gen 1! Exeggutor might make sense as a regular Pokemon on her team but Vileplume has to be her ace.

I love the idea of Geovani stealing the gift pokemon thats actually so sick! Great video and amazing editing! :D

Loved this, never knew Erika's dad worked for silph! also, loved my boy Ned chiming in!!

Some tough sells, but overall strong and reasoned choices. The Giovanni team is pretty perfect, especially with the gift stealing. The only other suggestion I would have for Giovanni would be to swap out Rhydon or Nidoking (I don't know which they're both great for different reasons) for Ditto, and coding Gio to have a higher chance of swapping to Ditto the higher the BST of your currently active pokemon. Partially this is another vibe for his criminal nature, since it's the closest thing to pokemon stealing in the game, but also it's a hint at the longstanding theory that Ditto are failed Mew clones, which is another tie back to Team Rocket and their involvement in Mewtwo. It's also another way to make this a very personal fight, which is obviously a big selling point of your lineup. Either way, I would definitely play this romhack.

You have now made Kanto almost too hard to beat lmao holy moly

Bro, this is insanely well edited. Even tho i don't really agree with giving Pokémon from other types beyond their theme/speciality (most of the choices just don't fit imo), i think you did a very good job with the production.

First off, I really dig the Giovanna idea you have. It’s a nice choice to emphasize his criminal nature. I do also like that instead of focusing solely on the mono-type, you have done the Pokemon Stadium thing & given most of the gym leaders Pokemon to help combat their weaknesses. Things I’d consider & do for the Kanto Leaders Brock: Keep Onix as the Ace. It’s a well designed Pokemon for an early game boss. Accompanying it with Kabuto for the exact reasons you mentioned & have Brock use a Zubat as his last mon. It’s not overly strong & it helps combat the trainers who picked Bulbasaur while not overly punishing Charmander players or giving Squirtle a free win. Misty: I’d have a similar lineup. Psyduck as the middle mon, and Starmie as the ace. I’d do Poliwag for the lead with Hypnosis strats to soften up trainers. Lt. Surge: Making Electabuzz the ace makes a ton of sense. I do like keeping something from the Pikachu line, and Fearow seems like a good mon for a military man to have to counter his ground weakness. Erika: The Porygon is completely out of left field, but I don’t dislike the choice. Tangela & Vileplume are good picks, and I can see Erika having Exeggutor as an ace. Koga: I like Koga keeping Weezing. Golbat & Venomoth also are very Koga coded & I’m fine with him having both. Since Poison types are so common in gen 1, I think Tentacruel is a good final member for his squad. Sabrina: She has one of the most dominant types in Gen 1, so let’s capitalize on that. I think Let’s Go’s team of Slowbro, Mr.Mime, Jynx, and Ace Alakazam is excellent for her. Blane: Arcanine being the ace & Magmar being included are no brainers for Blane. I do think his other Pokemon should aid him against his weaknesses. I’d like Clefable for his team. It has great coverage, and I can see an older man like Blane using one. While the Gyarados is a cool idea, I do want another fire type, and Ninetales is actually pretty solid in Gen 1, so I’m going with that. Giovanni: Rhydon, Nidoking, and Persain are all great picks for the team. As for the other 2 (I like capping the final gym leader with 5 Pokemon. Rematches are a different story), I actually like the idea of Giovanni stealing the fossil you don’t take for one of his choices. I’d like to make Marowak the last member to tie in to Team Rocket’s antics with The Pokemon Tower. Though, Giovanni owning a Gengar would be a cool lore idea if we want to hint at him considering arming himself to catch Mewtwo later.

Straight out of the gate man, that amount of versatility for Brock being able to cover for all the starter types? That's really gonna force new players to learn the type chart. Big brain no. 1 gym leader.

This was so good! I’m glad Magnus added me to the PokeTuber Discord so I could find other creators! I love mixing up the Gym teams to cover their weaknesses. It’s one of the reasons I like Candice and Volkner in DP. If they’re so elite, they should be able to counter your strategy. And Giovanni’s team is PERFECT. I love that your choices in-game impact his team, and I love him having a full team. Keep up the good work!!

All the TCG references made me want to see one of my favorite cards ever: Giovanni's Magikarp

this was a very well put together video, I hope it gets more attention! are you planning on remaking the elite four teams and more generations gyms next?

Dude this is rad, especially the whole Giovanni thing.

Gyarados was the worst idea Rapidash should be in that place

Theres an interesting reason why brock was designed as is in RBY. Rock works as a great tutorial type for fire/water/grass cores. Normal attacks are resisted by rock, so a starter needs to use its special moves to do significant damage. That said i like the changes to Brock. I would just make it so sandshrew isnt blue exclusive, and make it commonly available very early on so you have the tools to block rock throw. Sandshrew isnt very strong, and learns no ground type moves in gen 1 so it would function as a great wall. It also has poison sting which could teach players about using status to defeat mons, just give it to sandshrew at lv 5 or 10 instead of...lv 24? Lol gen 1 movesets

I see why Exeggutor was added to Erika’s team and the representation behind it. Tangela the pure grass type represents Erika and the Celdaon City gym being grass. Vileplume who is both Grass and Poison represents if the player chooses to head for Fuchsia City to face Koga next that poison types are what they will be up against. Exeggutor being grass and psychic represents if the player decides to go towards Saffron City to challenge Sabrina afterwards that psychic types await in the gym. Since both Koga and Sabrina’s teams have the same Base Stat Totals as you mentioned, this reinforces Erika and Celadon City presenting a fork in the road for the player.

Best video of this theme about changing gym leaders teams that I've ever saw. Hope you keep on doing them!

I like that you implemented Scyther on Koga's team, something no one mentions is that Koga is implied to own a Scyther in flashback of the anime, losing to a Marowak.

I see why Exeggutor was added to Erika’s team and the representation behind it. Tangela the pure grass type represents Erika and the celadon city gym being grass. Vileplume who is Grass and Poison represents if a player chooses to go to Koga after that poison types are next in the fuchsia city gym. Exeggutor being grass and psychic represents if a player chooses to go to Sabrina after that psychic types await in the saffron city gym. As you mentioned since Koga and Sabrina’s teams have the same Base Stat Totals are the same this reinforces Erika and Celadon City presenting a fork in the road for the player.

This is absolutely brilliant. Not only is every choice well thought out but they’re all super easy connections to make. It’s mind boggling how GameFreak didn’t come to any of these conclusions.

I feel like another good Pokemon for Giovanni would be Tauros. He uses one in Round 1 of Pokemon Stadium, it's a powerful, intimidating and rare Pokemon and with 70 Special it can even be a mixed attacker. You could it even have it run Thunderbolt, Rock Slide and Fire Blast with the reasoning that Giovanni is prepared for the protagonist and equipped his Pokemon with moves that are super effective no matter your starter.

i love your editing style so much, such a great video. Learned so much abt the manga too lol idk how to feel abt gyarados for the fire gym, perhaps a charizard that team would've fit the travelling theme whilst still being a fire type such a great video :)

My crack take is that the gyms should be drastically changed; Brock - Ground Misty - Flying Surge - Moved to Saffron Erika - Grass Sabrina - Promoted to E4 Koga - Bug Blane - Moved to Vermillion Giovanni - Normal Loralei - Water Bruno - Fighting Agatha - Demoted to Ghost Gym in Lavender Lance - Dragon (In this scenario you have to do the Pokemon mansion to unlock the 8th gym) With this new gym distribution we can more effectively see the regions types. Without a poison gym the large number of poison dual types won't feel like they detract from their gym. And the Elite 4 now has more plentiful types to pull from. In (the new) order it would go: Brock; 1, Diglett 2, Sandshrew 3, Onyx Misty; 1, Butterfree 2, Farfetch'd 3, Golbat Blane; 1, Vulpix 2, Ponyta 3, Flareon 4, Magmar Agatha; 1, Gastly 2, Haunter 3, Gengar (4, Marrowak Optionally) Erika; 1, Tangela 2, Exeggcute 3, Exeggutor 4, Victreebel Surge; 1, Raichu 2, Voltorb 3, Magneton 4, Electabuzz 5, Jolteon Koga; 1, Parasect 2, Venomoth 3, Kabutops 4, Pinsir 5, Scyther Giovanni; 1, Porygon 2, Persian 3, Dodrio 4, Nidoking 5, Kangaskhan 6, Tauros Lorelei; 1, Dewgong 2, Omastar 3, Slowbro 4, Vaporeon 5, Cloyster 6, Lapras Bruno; 1, Primeape 2, Golem 3, Polywrath 4, Hitmonchan 5, Hitmonlee 6, Machamp Sabrina; 1, Kadrabra 2, Hypno 3, Starmie 4, Mr. Mime 5, Jynx 6, Alakazam Lance; 1, Dragonair 2, Seadra 3, Areodactyl 4, Gyrados 5, Dragonair 6, Dragonit I'd say a list like this better uses the types of the region and allows for more creative team compositions. I think it would work even better with some cross gen evolutions/forms. Such as Leafeon, Espeon, Alolan Ratticate, Alolan Raichu, Alolan Marowak, Annihilape, Golarian Slowking, Surfetch'd, Tangrowth, Kingdra, Paldrian Tauros, and more

I love the idea about revamp Kanto Gyms Teams, particularly the Erika one where her nightmare mechanic of status + Wrap + Leech Seed is gone after generation 1. Also I would have love to see a Dragonair en Erika's Team as in the TCG, and since it has Wrap and Thunder Wave in the games, that could've work for her team.

“We are going to chance the move Fire Blast to Flamethrower which sounds a bit silly…” Hardly! Everyone loves fire blast for its power but they forget that it has low accuracy and only 5 pp, so you won’t get to use it much and will be lucky if it hits Flamethrower is a *much* more practical option imo

9:27 I think Mr. Mime is a good Kadabra replacement, it can just show the versatility of Psyquic types by having Thunder Wave, Light Screen, Thunder (can be replaced by Thunderbolt or Psyquic) and Solar Beam (can be also replaced with the previous mentioned)

surprised venomoth didn't make koga's team as it was his ace in the anime. then again bulbasaur could just use whirlwind and blow all the spores away..

Loved this! We need a romhack with your suggestions 😊

Nice video my guy your coming along

Sabrina should have a Mr. Mime instead of a Kadabra imho

Proceeds to give koga a not poison type pokemon in the thumbnail

I really love your take on your Pokemon teams; especially Giovanni cause THAT was AMAZING! However, I just have 3 main complaints on your perspectives that aren’t really super serious. 1. Unless you have Brock’s team, all teams should have 4 moves. 2. I would love it if Lt. Surge would also have a Machoke on his team. Replacing Pikachu with it would give Surge another way to fight against trainers with rock types while also helping Fearow out against diglets. (Also remember the old man with the Machop working on the plot of land? Be a nice way to tie him to Lt Surge). 3. Replace Tangela with a Butterfree. Butterfree is a good aesthetic for Erica and could give type coverage. Tangela just doesn’t do enough for me as a Pokemon; well at least in the Red, Blue, and Yellow series. Really REALLY love your take on the Gym Leader’s teams! Gonna subscribe to you.❤🔥🔥🔥

For Lt. Surge I always felt Electabuzz should have been on his team instead of Pikachu. What are your thoughts on Jolteon in place of Voltorb? I like the addition of Exeggutor to Erika’s team. It’s sad that Erika had to lose her Victribell, but I see you were trying to keep the numbers the same. I like Muk being on the team as the minimize setup with toxic can be so detrimental to the player. Definitely agree that Golbat should be on the team. Venomoth would be good for Koga’s team to counter Psychics. I also would like to present Tentacruel as an option since it is a poison, but also water which could be a counter for those trying to sweep with ground types. I understand what was trying to be done for Sabrina. I would definitely take out Venomoth and replace with Hypno. If wanting Kadabra switched out, maybe Slowbro or Jynx though I could see why you wouldn’t want to make it too repetitive of Lorelei’s team. For Blaine I completely agree that Magmar is essential and I like the addition of Flareon as you don’t really see it on the team of any trainers from what I recall. Then again I haven’t played since 1999 when I was 6 years old.

My teams for them: Brock: Geodude, Onix Misty: Psyduck, Goldeen, Starmie Lt. Surge: Pikachu, Porygon, Electabuzz Erika: Tangela, Ivysaur, Victreebel, Vileplume (If fought fourth); Tangela, Venusaur, Victreebel, Vileplume (If fought fifth); Tangela, Venusaur, Victreebel, Exeggutor, Vileplume (if fought sixth) Koga: Golbat, Muk, Tentacruel, Weezing (If fought fourth or fifth); Golbat, Muk, Tentacruel, Parasect, Weezing (If fought sixth) Sabrina: Kadabra, Jynx, Hypno, Alakazam (if fought fourth or fifth); Kadabra, Jynx, Hypno, Venomoth, Alakazam (If fought sixth) Blaine: Rapidash, Charizard, Ninetales, Arcanine, Magmar Giovanni: Dugtrio, Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Persian, Rhydon

i associate victrebell with erika and don't think nepotism should be part of her gym. I vote disapproval of porygon (it's artificial life so it doesn't even vibe with her gym). I also dislike water onix for blaine. I think he should have a ninetales, ditto or marowak instead (to hint at his association with the mewtwo project and/or team rocket)

well... the point of the first gym.. is to learn about match-up, the rival always have a good matchup against you, and in viridian forest, charmander have an easy time while bulbasaur have a less easy time On first gym even charmander can win, but if the onix just kills you with one rock, while there is no better option than your starter ADD TO THAT, geodude and onix have sky high defense against early game normal type moves, that way you will learn about special and physical, and you will understand that some pokemon are way better to take physical hits All of this would be ruined if by choosing charmander you get destroyed by the first gym Just look at the options: Rattata: does nothing Pidgey: dies to a rock Weedle: dies to a rock beedrill won't help Caterpie: dies to a rock and butterfree will die if it does not kills both nidorans: does even less than rattata without stab Pikachu: does nothing You can't just take charmander in one move, the player can't do anything if onix has rock throw

BRILLIANT!... The only thing I'd change is Geovani's team. The whole taking the alternate prize pokemon is genius and I like the Gengar acquired by the Silph scope was awesome too but I'd replace the gengar and leave Agatha with that (could be some back story of Geovani knowing Agatha once upon a time and gifting her with her first ghost pokemon or something)... I'd replace the Gengar with a strong tank Clefable given their Mt Moon endeavours and his ability to obtain rare items like multiple moonstones... I'd also replace his Rhydon (given the rival also has one not long after) and instead I'd give him a level 50 Mewtwo (who breaks free from Geovani upon defeating him) This allows Mewtwo to escape into the unknown dungeon raising himself to level 70 before you encounter him and now know of him instead of inexplicably having the knowledge of him from nowhere. Plus it mirrors the anime of Geovani acquiring Mewtwo and him breaking free and stuff. Omastar/Kabutops (alternate Mt Moon fossil) Hitmonchan/Hitmonlee (alternate dojo) Clefable (tank) Nidoking (bit more badass then Rhydon IMO) Persian (signature pokemon) Mewtwo (ace)

Very cool idea! Love using Pokemon that fit the gym leader more than the type.

Red and blue came before the anime so anime pokemon for the gym leaders wouldnt make sense

You made them less shit but my fangame fully fixes it. No monotype nonsense, varied types and good moves and full 6 pokemon teams from gym 4 and onwards. Also, rematch after Elite 4.

Very nice!!!!! Make with Johto!

Giovanni's lineup is too all over the place man. Persian and Kabutops are still ok additions but Hitmonlee and Gengar already belong to Elite 4 members. I think Marowak and Nidoqueen are good to keep. I still think that Vileplume is a better fit as Erika's ace since it represents the Grass-type better than Exeggutor since it has 3 evolutions, and a signature move (and properly the best non-status Grass-type move): Petal Dance. Tangela can be the 1st Pokemon with its high defense and powder set moves. Leech Seed is a better move for Exeggutor than Hypnosis since only Exeggutor-line can use this move beside Bulbasour-line in Gen 1.

Love the Giovanni team ! I recently learned that apparently, a NPC labeled "Dad" was removed from the games, and he would've been placed where the guy who gives you the Lapras is. Now that I see your video, it could've been Erika's dad who'd give you the Porygon during Team Rocket's raid, to protect it ! Another NPC, the boss of Silph (therefore, Erika's father) was also removed. He would've been a battle and hiding in the Safari. I learned that from a french guy : 3 minutes in -> ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE---u0dn8QbxI.html 5:18 -> ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X4ZdjCVj70I.html

I think Persian should have a water type move (Anti rock-walling)

I like this setup.

Though i get why you thought of doubling with Sabrina's team, but i suggest a fun gimmick would be make jynx and mime version exclusive team member with one which isnt found in the wild of one game used by her. Mime would be abt the force field walls And jynx cold mysticism or someother cold oriented psychic refernce or referncing her cold personality. She was using a whip during her intial debute.

Elite four video please

One pokey tuber also suggested that the rainbow badge and the Earth bad should be swapped so if you did that it would be perfect rainbow mixed specialist

Actually Make them use fully evolved pokemon and use 6 pokémon too...

i think the brock changes were a little liberal, but i do love the changes you made to everyone else!

I'd love if Misty had a Goldeen. Idk how well it fits with the anime but Horn Attack can be quite dangerous at this point, especially to Pikachu's terrible defense

pretty cool

It's interesting to give Erika a Portón based on manga, but would that fit with her being "The Nature Loving Princess"? I mean, Porygon is not really "natural"

surge has a good team except for pikachu, fits less than raichu. replace pikachu with voltorb, the literal BOMB and your good

Wow uh....do you just hate charmander players or something? How the hell's anyone supposed to do brock if they committed the sin of choosing charmander as their starter bar absurd levels of grind? You can't even get a butterfree to get past him because the vulpix and onix will kill it like... the hell are you even supposed to do? Use your amazing pidgey and rat against him? Maybe the nidos with their fantastic poison sting? That's way too strong for brock. like it's less bad for bulba and squirtle but for charmander? Thats an awful boss 1. The options just aren't there for charmander players to even do this beyond go grind levels. like christ you can't even get charmander leveled up much vs kabuto because that friggen 1/4 damage and then he also cheats to get absorb way early? Nah this is super bad. Misty isn't terrible and her mons fit and least by her you have some options, you can catch a few grass types and maybe do something here. yeah confusion makes grass not free either since most of the ones you can catch are half poison but like... you can toss a normal mon at it maybe and be ok as it's not that strong unlike brock where his onix just kills charmander's only other option. See the reason raichu was ok despite being as powerful as it was for gym 3 was BECAUSE ground nulls electric so you can go grab a diglett and go to town (yeah theoretically you could get that thugtrio but lets be real most players weren't catching him most were getting sent to the pokemon center by it unless they knew exactly how to fight it or running the hell away). you giving him fearow kinda screws that and fearow itself is actually pretty strong at this stage too. more than that I think it's a real stretch to be like "oh this one random card has a fearow for him and it's never seen again so let's have him use it!". But at least again like misty by gym 3 you have options for it. grab a geodude grab a diglett there ya go. I DO love having him use electabuzz though it absolutely suits him better. I don't mind him keeping a rai too alongside buzz though buzz is the ace ofc and NOT having fearow though and make it more a thing to teach the player to use ground types though can still give rai like mega punch so diglett doesn't just auto win if you're that worried about it. make it so he has bad type variety but is really strong maybe and it'd still be reasonably balanced since ground mons are deffo available. if you're that worried can idk give buzz submission as a tm so he can hit geodude and diglett better too. yeah it's sorta high power but it also has recoil so if it uses it a lot you can kill it off recoil too and it also isn't terribly accurate but least makes geodude and diglett not ENTIRELY a free win still while staying true to what he does. Hell why not fight fire w/ fire and maybe HE went to digletts cave and got his own diglett referring to a guy in the military being familiar w/ trench warfare and the cave being literally right next door? it also hits geodudes many players might use too so it has uses beyond as well, while giving a player a way to win w/ ground and grass mons despite his buff team if you're that desperate to give him a non electric type. erika... felt like a massive stretch. her dad works at silph co and despite her never really using a porygon she just... kinda has one because it's briefly mentioned and again not even used really in the manga? It's... a massive stretch granted grass kinda is ass in gen 1 so it's probably something she needs. you could give eggy psychic too i mean at this stage you have way more tm access it seems fine for it to have psychic maybe. She's right next to saffron where you get psychic tm after all. since you liked the stadium games you could give her a vaporeon for coverage. eevee actually was a more major part of the manga as well, she's in celadon so the water stone's right there and so is the eevee guy and it helps her not just automatically lose to fire and can ice beam like you wanted for flying too, it just also covers fire for her and even resists ice while vaporeon as a mon suits her nature more I think. Has great synergy w/ her grass mons who in return resist its weakness to both grass and electric. I think it's a better pick than pory anyway for her and given the spike in power the player gets at celadon w/ all those killer tms won't be too op either. For sabrina i like mr mime still somewhere for the whole creepy clown vibe it gives off since sabrina also was sorta creepy to people in the show and people fear clowns but overall not bad at all this one's pretty decent. I think haunter is a neat add and nod to her battle with ash much as I hated how ash won that battle so good on ya. As for koga... honestly i think gengar fits him more than giovanni as he's a tricky creeping shadow of a poison type but I also actually am ok w/ gio getting one because well... it just makes sense he had the silph scope you'd think he went out and tried it in the tower and got some ghost so much as gengar'd be awesome for koga too i can forgive it given how you are going about it. But given how few ghosts there are it's ok if there's a few repeats on ghost and gengar's awesome though again if you hate repeats I can forgive it esp as Koga lacks a silph scope so gio having it is fine if only 1 can. overall koga's fine for me though I like the scyther add on too there was no reason he'd not have that. It'd be fine to give voltorb thunder wave too since koga likes status i think so it's not just ENTIRELY useless vs the ghost koga wishes he had. You could if you don'tt give sabrina mime give it to koga since his whole ass gym is invisible walls and all the trainers in his gym used psychic too. It'd give him a nice psychic resist too and explain how he got all those invisible walls granted how he'd get one... is another story sadly like w/ gengar so I'm fine w/ this koga he was never gonna be that strong anyway as poison kinda sucks outside specific mons he isnt easily getting. Blaine tbf fire is kinda limited but.... yeah gyarados is... why? He was never shown using such a thing ever. I know gyara gives better type coverage sorta but there's just... no reason he'd use this. why not give him a fossil mon? he's on cinnabar where you can revive fossils maybe he got a fossil in his travels. aero gets fire blast and isn't part of the whole kabuto, omanyte thing. Hell he knows of it because in the manga he tells red to revive an aero too even while also being a scientist on cinnabar so he probably knows about reviving fossils. it gets fire blast via tm, is immune to ground and actually is something he might get as he's a scientist on cinnabar island while giving him a flying mon so he can come and go from cinnabar too also sorta giving the whole riding an awesome mon vibe for him but feels less offensive than just... random gyarados. Magmar was natural and I'm angry it's not a part of his team in the main games so good on you doing justice w/ that one. Giovanni is an interesting take and I kinda like it overall as while it IS really different it makes him feel like an alternate rival sorta which he kinda is throughout the game so I actually like what you went for here with him while he is in fact the ground specialist I actually like how you went w/ him and it makes sense while making a much cooler alternative. fantastic as a final boss Overall some of these were a big stretch and others are just... poor game design but there also were some pretty good ones here too. Not a bad video. But seriously that brock one is WAY too strong for a gym 1 especially if you dared to commit the sin of choosing charmander as your starter. The early gyms don't HAVE to be super strong you gotta take into account what the player actually can GET at that stage of the game too. Power's relative after all. Sure psyduck's a mid mon but if the only thing the player can use to fight it is magikarp suddenly that psyduck seems way strong.

Nazi Giovanni 🗿🗿