What If Palpatine Never Killed Darth Plagueis - Star Wars Explained 

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Have I ever told about darth plaguies the wise

Gabriel Andreozzi no

Chrysalis The Silkwen The negotiator, general kenobi

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great idea

Kristopher Awojobi I think he's already done that

then: Vader: "Far too easy" ;)

Can't really do anything about it considering she "lost the will to live"

wow darth plagueis looks damn scary

Without a doubt a less than epic death of the designer of the jedi demise. However, given how he killed his master, one could say it was appropriate.

He killed him like that because he feared that if he faced him in a fight he would have lost. Sidious knew his master's strength in the Dark Side and had reason to fear. He also feared the knowledge that Plagueis withheld from him.

I love how no one dared liked your comment after 66 likes lmao

Okay who fucked it up?

Remember that even the Greek heroes would often fall because of such little vices that would seem stupid to us

And Leia

No just *LUKE*

Bruh 😂

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Ikr!

YES

Jordan Gallaher exactly id rather that then this

ya

Angel Oneill lol

Angel Oneill the jedi found themselves above this technique.

Pull out method doesn't always work dumbshit.

Angel Oneill LOL!! You would still get the original trilogy!!

What if Anakin was Frodo?

ALL HAIL DARTH JAR JAR our 1 true sith lord!

-it's funny cause he actually was but- -most people don't know and think- -this a joke lol-

Mekill

@@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024 right?? I mean the evidence is out there and I can't help but wonder what things would've been like should lucas have grown a set of nice big "eggs"

Could have been so much better, like imagine him being the one to teach Anakin.

He wouldn’t do that to me

Anakin would save obi-wan or die with him

He literally said "his fate will be the same as ours" in ROTS to palpatine. I cant imagine he wouldnt say the same to Plagueis

It might be a little bit different to the fact that Darth Sidious showed up

Traumatic Frost that’s a good point, when they were escaping the first time there wasn’t a second Sith Lord trying to stop them, having Palpatine in the way maybe would’ve made Anakin realize he would unfortunately have to leave Obi Wan behind

He'd have made Zabula a lot of money before buying his freedom to become a moisture farmer with his new step dad and mom. But then the sand people would come and take him and his mother away where his anger and rage at once again being a slave, now to the sand people would over flow and his force sensitive potential would be unleashed, slaughtering the sand people with his pure hatred and force ability. In his force driven rage he would accidentally kill his mother, thus pushing him over the edge in to the darkness. He would become a rouge force user, feared by the Jedi and Sith for his pure force abilities fueled by rage. The jedi would dispatch Obiwan because of his past connection with Anakin, and Sidious would send Tyranus. They would confront Anakin and it would be a three way battle, but eventually the Jedi and Sith would team up out of necessity to defeat Anakin but they would be no match and Anakin killed them both. Sidious realizes the unharnessed potential of Anakin and personally goes to Tatooine and promise to teach him how to prevent his loved ones from dying ever again. Anakin joins the Sith becoming Darth Vader and leads the Separatists in crushing victories against the Republic. The Jedi are all but gone as they died to defend the Republic with out a clone army. Palatine doesn't construct the Clone Army because he has Anakin, and the Separatists quickly defeat the Republic. The Republic and Separatists form a peace treaty, but on the eve of the peace treaty Palpatine has Anakin kill the Separatist leaders. The Separatist movement falls apart without their leaders, and Palatine declares the Republic needs an army and forms the Empire and Imperial Army and Navy and appoints him self as Emperor. He publicly makes a show of thanking the Jedi order for their sacrifices in protecting the Republic during the war, but says the days of old are over and the Empire has no room for their ways. Anakin (Darth Vader) leads the final march on the Jedi Temple leading the Stormtroopers to victory. And the events of the original trilogy mostly play out the same except Darth Vader isn't in the suit, their is no Luke, Leigh, or Obiwan and the Rebellion still manages to destroy the first Death Star. There is no destruction of the second Death Star as I imagine Darth Vader leads the Stormtroopers in personally defending the shield generators, and the rebellion is all but destroyed.

Dalton Uber how long did that take

SpiderMonkeyNuts About as long as it took me to eat my lunch

He would be picked by Palpatine.

Dalton Uber fantastic

Thats a good one. So much would change.

I'm not sure, but I think someone else has done this idea of Luke and Leia switching places. I can't remember how it ended, but I think it was a pretty bad ending for both of them.

In reality - yes, but we all know that stupendous can only look towards one direction. He would undoubtedly twist the storyline so that Luke would end up with the exact same pathway as he did in the original story!

Love this idea.

It would be more or less the same as the original trilogy, except the roles would be reversed. Leia would defeat the Sith instead of Luke.

Alex they were only "equal" due to the assassination attempt on his life that caused him to have a breathing device

Insidious Ninja plaquies not drunk could kill palpatine than while healing himself which I don’t think palpatine can do and if he can it’s only in legends

Apples to Oranges. Palpatine was a top 5 duelist. Easily. Plagueis was a very high level force user.

@ he was truly more powerful he wouldn't have killed his master at the way he did the sith rule is the strongest sith should rule he knew he wasn't the strongest so he killed him in his sleep

Exactly and if he was so confident why get him drunk. Hell, he (Sidious) couldn't even beat Mace Windu in a straight up duel..

lol same

lol same

lol, likewise.

Because you like to hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise

haha ditto

Obi-Wan would have died. Dunno how it would have ended for Anakin. Probably would have been killed.

Im not Batman obi wan would have more than likely been cut down and yoda would've made sure Anakin didn't survive.

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Obi Wan could have survived. He would be able to deflect Sidous' lightning with his saber and having all those senate pods could provide him with some advantages

oh my god. just read that entire thing. how did you think of this??? This is great

*killed

Okay no.1 it’s Attack And no.2 it’s Asaj Ventress Edit: And no.3 it’s Palpatine Edit 2: And no.4 It’s Dooku I had to do a few edits cos of this blokes bad spellings

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HTGPZ is cool You have become the very thing you swore to destroy.

He is a chill guy . Him and Dooku would've made great friends

@Jeffrey Scott Indeed they did . Imagine a timeline where Plagueis survived Sidious' attack and Plagueis trained Dooku, and later Anakin, as a Sith .

Ngl doe 😳

He is and he has the high ground

@why hello there Yes he did . Plagueis in his public identity as Hego Damask, the Magister of Damask Holdings had a meeting with Qui-Gon Jinn, Sifo Dyas, Jocasta Nu and Dooku . At this point Dooku was still a Jedi but he already began to have his doubts about the Jedi and the Republic . Plagueis took advantage of this and told him and Sifo Dyas about Kamino, thus planting the seeds of Darkness in the 2 Jedi . Also Plagueis would've made Dooku as his apprentice if something happens to Palpatine.

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Steven Stamatis

Stop acting like a cancer

Tropicalninja360 that's a good one! I personally think he would have been more wise and accepted padme future or not betray master windu and cut off his ark

is "the mighty ark" a fancy word for his dick?

@@charlesnewman5136 blood would splatter everywhere

@@charlesnewman5136 I'd be terrified

Macauley Clifford She would die of sadness

What if Jar Jar is a sith lord?

@@KevetteofArethria HE IS A SITH LORD !

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It doesn't matter, because he was better at lightsaber combat and almost equal with the force so technically speaking Venomous would have won

His name is "Tenebrous"

No I'm talking about the secret apprentice of Tenebrous, you need to read or listen to the book

Jackson Leon Oh, right I forgot about him.

Part 2!

jedi win

What if Mace Windu killed Plageius

No

brandon ridener no

OG trilogy never happens. Kinda hard to enjoy the prequels knowing the future.

in normal version only mace windu stay alive so if we think only mace windu and obi-wan kenobi left to stop palpatine anakin and palpatine attack them and if palpatine win anakin will not wear armor and would be much stronger cause his armor make him so much slower and unpowerful so he can kill luke so empiree would win

Sidious kills obivan, Yoda kills Anakin and takes Luke to tatooine. Sidious then looks for a new apprantice

+TeamSteam Gamers That is not quite thought out. Yes his armor makes him slower, but with the weakness that comes with the armor Vader had to become more sensitive with the force and in lightsaber combat. Anakin was very powerfull and he would have been far stronger than Vader with the suit. But comparing those two is like comparing a hammer and a scalpell. Where Anakin was strong, Vader is precise and he uses his power far more efficient than Anakin. For example Anakin might have been able to crush a large object, where Vader would have used far less power on the weakspot to destroy this object. Same result different ways. Vader is just more efficient and creative in the use of the force.

Kyyp3r I disagree yoda would have been destroyed he would not use cunning to stop anakin only the force and anakin would be way more pissed at seeing yoda then his old friend obi wan and become far more enraged embracing a fuller power of the dark side and yoda although a master of the force would be somewhat conflicted and being used to cooped up inside his temple would not be able to handle all the dark side energy from the mustafar planet unlike obi wan who has more experience in the field of course palpatine would have killed obi wan no argument there

Byg Byt Not necessarily, actually. Palpatine is a good duelist, but not as good as Obi.

Or if Obi-Wan was killed instead

Cbring Plays Then the story wouldn't be to different then

No, Qui-gon was very much an anti-jedi in the sense that he believed in the balance of the force; not blindly following the light side blindly. I believe that Anakin wouldn't turn to dark side if he had qui-gonn to talk to about padme and his mom.

John Joy He wasn't very anti Jedi in that sense, he still attended many missions for the council and remained loyal, the most he did was wanting to train Anakin where the others would not. Anakin would of still been trained by the Jedi if Qui Gon took him on and the story I feel would similarly progress with his mother passing on, Palptine manipulating him as well. Stupendous Wave already did a video where Qui gon lived and his version wasn't much different to the actual story barring Dooku remaining to the light. If both died by Maul, perhaps he would of found and potentially taken on Anakin as a Sith apprentice and then overthrow Sidious in the future. Also with the Jedi losing two knowledgeable Jedi Knights and knowing the chosen one has been trained by the sith, the clone wars could be played differently with the Council prioritizing on finding Anakin, making it alot harder for Sidious to keep things in place. Or without Dooku being the puppet, he wouldn't be pulling the strings so order 66 could be delayed. I really don't know, changing this part of Star wars, there can be many different ways and opinions on this

It would have been much different. Obi-Wan's relationship with Anakin was what kept Anakin stable for so long. Obi-Wan wasn't just a Master, but a friend, Qui-Gon was more of a teacher, and due to that would not have had as close a relationship with Anakin. Not only that, but if things had prodressed like normal, and we saw a fight between Anakin and Qui Gon on Mustafar, then Qui Gon would not have been able to defeat Anakin, and Anakin would not have suffered the damage he did when he lost to Obi-Wan, which means he would have been MUCH more powerful as Darth Vader, as he wouldn't have lost his legs and other arm, and he wouldn't have had to have the heavy vader suit. slowing him down. He would have become more powerful than Sidious and any Jedi (just as Sidious had predicted) and he would have overthrown Sidious to become Emperor Vader.

Thank you

Mr. Arachnid He did. he had a Code to Kill Palpatine or The Leader of The Republic in the Orders

Wtf is this

i feel he was more cunning and less power hungry than palps was... idk tho I know barely anything about him

Dante Fiore Yeah, I know absolutely nothing, but based on this what if story he sounded far less power hungry, and he seemed to actually care about some people rather than seeing everyone as a pawn the way Palpatine did.

plaguis was kind of like a Nazi he believed in racial hierarchy but he was more of a scientist and philosopher than solder

wishbone346 I agree Plagueis was more of a political genius and Palpatine took it from him while Plagueus was was obsessed with keeping himself alive through the force by manipulating the midi chlorians

More pragmatically evil or perhaps less arrogant. But he was a Sith Lord, he's evil enough.

I know I'm late but I think I can give you the answer . After Plagueis realizes that Sidious is Indeed dead, he would contact General Grievous and tell him to send the Separatist High Council to Mustafar, and when he's prepared, he should go to Mustafar too . After he gave out his orders to Grievous, the General, like in the movie, would tell that the loss of Dooku and Sidious is a major loss for the Separatists, Plagueis would assure him that soon he will have a new apprentice, one more younger and more powerful, referring to Anakin . After that Plagueis, under his public identity as Supreme Chancellor Hego Damask II, he would more often meet Anakin and have converstations with the young Jedi, Anakin would brag about the problems he has with the Jedi Council ( such as not granting him the rank of Jedi Master ) and his problems of the nightmares he had about Padme dying in child birth, Hego would comfort Anakin . Now in this timeline, since the Jedi wouldn't be as suspicious of Hego as they were at Palpatine because as in the video, they believe that Palpatine was the Sith Lord all along, and they wouldn't be suspicious of him, so in this timeline the Jedi Council won't send Anakin to spy on him, but instead Hego would often call Anakin for some meetings and other stuff, like at the Opera House . During the Opera, Damask would tell a tale of a legendary Dark Lord of the Sith, Darth Plagueis who has the ability to create life and cheat death , Anakin would get even more suspicious, since as SW said in the video Sidious talked about his master on the Invisible Hand after Anakin kills Dooku in this timeline , and would tell this to Obi-wan, who would inform the Council about this . The Council be suspicious, but they won't act because they'll need more evidence of Damaks being a Sith Lord . Obi-wan would go to Utapau to deal with General Grievous . While this Damask and Anakin would get closer together, Anakin would look at Damask as his father figure . Damask would continue telling strange stories of the Sith Lord, Darth Plagueis, and stuff about midi-chlorian manipulations . After these Anakin would quickly realize that his father-figure is Darth Plagueis, and Sidious was just an apprentice, both Supreme Chancellors of the Republic were Sith Lords . After that Plagueis would tell Anakin that he created Anakin and with the very same knowlegde he can save Padme from death . Anakin would extremley torn : If he exposes Plagueis, he would kill his "father" and Padme will die but if he doesn't expose Plagueis to the Jedi, then his "father" and his wife have better chances of survival . After that Plagueis would tell Anakin to bring Padme before him, so Plagueis could preform a ritual to save her from cretain death . Anakin does as Plagueis told him to do, Padme refuses his help . Padme would tell the Jedi Council about Plagueis, after that Windu, Kit Fisto and 2 other Jedi would try to arrest Plagueis . Plagueis kills them like if they were nothing . Anakin would have no choice but to become Plagueis' apprentice, Plagueis would call Anakin as Darth Vader . After that Plagueis would send clones to take Padme to his secret lair on Coruscant, meanwhile Plagueis would send Vader to the Jedi Temple and kill every single Jedi . Plagueis orders the clones to execute Order 66 . After that Plagueis sends Vader to Mustafar to kill off the Separatist leaders but before that Plagueis tells the Separatist leaders that his new apprentice would take care of them . When Yoda and Obi-wan return to Coruscant they free Padme, and Padme would inform them of the events that occured on Coruscant . Plagueis would reorganize the Republic into the Empire . Obi-wan, Padme, C3PO and R2-D2 would go to Mustafar to try to return Anakin to Light Side, while Yoda goes to deal with Plagueis . Yoda would fail to kill the Dark Lord, meanwhile Obi-wan and Vader have their duel on Mustafar, of course Padme dies in child birth and Anakin would loose to Obi-wan . The twins would be separated, Luke goes to Tatooine, while Leia goes to Alderaan . Yoda would go to exile on Dagobah . Organa would slowly form the Rebellion . Plagueis would use the midi-chlorians to heal Vader's injuries and Vader won't be a cyborg . Now the galaxy is under the the control of the Sith who achieved immortality and the most powerful Sith . I think in this timeline the Rebellion would be screwed because in this timeline Plagueis did achieve immortality ( because when Sidious killed him in the original timeline, Plagueis was at his closest to achieve it, so if Sidious doesn't kill Plagueis, Plagueis would be immortal ) and likley would give his knowlegde to Vader, so if they can't kill the Emperor, they can't end the Empire . Also, maybe in this timeline Plagueis would slowly would rebuild the Ancient Sith Empire under his image, and would become a god, since he's immortal now . Plagueis' Empire : I think Plagueis' Empire wouldn't be xenophobic, but those worlds and races ( mainly the Umbarans and the Geonosians ) who joined the Separatists throughout the Clone Wars would pay for their crimes, through slavery and taxes . Plagueis would send Vader to various planets to collect Force Sensitive individuals and he and Plagueis would train them as Sith Warriors and Inquisitors , since Plagueis planned to drop the Rule of Two . The Empire would incorporate aliens and non-human races too . Now I think there would be a Death Star since Sidious did wanted a super-weapon to crush any rebellion that would try to challange his regime, so Plagueis would definitley build a Death Star and would definitley would use it, but maybe he would listen to Thrawn and he won't do it .

Will there be a part 2 of this?

Manoah mhmm

yess

Ben Redman There was a comic about that, Basically the rebel alliance gets defeated, they trie to convert leia and succeed and then yoda takes over the death star and chrases it on corusont where palpatine is.

"the 1 death star"

1 death star to rule them all

1 Death Star to find them.

Hifive429 he would have been killed as he was before by Vader

ajjdarklord Not really , no.

Rip rebellion then

Hifive326 g

Thrawn would be amazing however the rebels would be dead in one maybe two minutes.

Nick Craig how does one randomly encounter Revan's spirit?! I guess someone played SWTOR for a bit too long.

Dank Memes guess someone doesn't know their Star Wars. Revam is in kotor much MUCH more than in swtor get it right.

+ScrollKeeper What does that have to do with anything? Yeah, revan is in KotOR more than TOR, but he said SPIRIT of Revan. Did Revan appear as a spirit in KotOR? Oh, he didn't? Okay, then.

lol

star wars would be shit

It doesn't need to be, personally, I like the idea of Galen being an unconfirmed story, that actually DID happen, just with no way to confirm it. It fits with the secrecy that would've surrounded Vader's secret apprentice. As stated by Ahsoka; "there's always a bit of truth in legends."

and how the rebels adopted the symbol

Karter Martinez it isn't possible

yeh feels a lot more like the beginning of a fanfic rather than the end

I personally think Cin Drahllig (idk the spelling on the surname) would take Windu's place as Cin was the battle master of the order and a powerful fighting force. I think that Drahllig would go to Kashykk and Yoda stay behind on Coruscant so Yoda would be told by Anakin

Feminists would freak out

James Drelling you mean Rey?

Good porn i guess

Imagine if FN was captured by the modern Jabba.

Lol! She would tell Jabba: "I am Grand Admiral Rae Sloane. I am not some girlish assistant for you to paw or comfort or cajole. Touch me again, and I will have the offending limb removed, and all the nerves of the stump obliterated so that no robotic hand will ever respond to your commands!"

Then Kylo Ren would come out with 1 eye, a nose on his thigh, and balls on his forehead. He would also be autistic.

It takes many generations of inbreeding for any birth defects to arise in offspring, and even then it would be diseases mostly

The theory of asymmetry

han-diecap-ped babyyyyyyyyys

Their offspring would be the greatest Force User in history. Wincest.

Take notes Mickey

yessssss that is a good idea

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Something with Darth Zannah.

Henrik Löfberg like Darth Bane and his thought (force bomb) which he manipulated all the Lords to do this to destroy the Jedi that were attacking while he escaped out of the blast range destroying everyone making the Jedi believe all sith were destroyed it sent himself and he found Darth Zannah who he knew was powerful force and took her as his apprentice beginning the rule of two

I could see a scenario like happen.

The Infomaniac good call

Ben Thewlis Hego

Ben Thewlis he was Banking Clan member of that species that can be seen in Ep. II In the separatists counselor meeting he had money but no one knew he was the dark Lord of the Sith and had seduced Palpatine to the Darkside to become Darth Sidious. He had planned to have Palpatine & him to rule the Galaxy but Sidious got him drunk & tortured him with Sith lightning and killed him taking on the mantle of dark Lord being he already had Darth Maul he then gave himself the mantle of master and Mall became a true sith apprentice. All this is cool to me but Aniken skywalker killed 3 Sith (Darth Tyranus(Dooku),Sidious(Palpatine) & himself Vader. He truly was the chosen one thanks to Luke bringing back the good deep inside him that his wife Padmé knew he had.

It's 3 in the Bar on CORUSCANT in Vader armor

The answer to all is there wouldn't be any star wars films.